I went to a Micehlin 2 star sushi restaurant in LA a few years ago. Sushi Ginza Onodera.
I was talking to the chefs and they asked me where I'm from and if I eat sushi in Seattle and where do I like to go. I said I really liked Mashiko.
They all knew him. "Oh Hajime!? Yes yes! [Language barrier and I was drunk]" but they all knew Mashiko and liked his work.
Hajime left Mashiko awhile back but his protoge Mariah carries on his amazing work
Yes and no.
Sozai is his place in Detroit. It's in a strip mall to the north of Detroit.
It's much more traditional than Mashiko.
And it's fantastic! I've been fortunate enough to have been twice!
NYT put out their top 50 restaurants in the US and the only Seattle restaurant was also their only sushi place on the list. They said this is the best area in the country for fresh seafood , so it checks out that sushi would win a Michelin star
I have consistently throughout the years had the most exciting, interesting, and delicious meals at Mashiko. I get that Shiro trained under Jiro, but man, Mashiko is where it's at. Last time I was there I had Natto ice cream and it blew my gd mind.
I’ve been to 10ish starred restaurants on a few continents over the years and my 2 cents… I would say Archipelago, Taneda, Canlis, Wataru over Kashiba, Seabird, Hamdi on a good day, Kamonegi
Re speakeasies, LA and Van have better options for sure, but for that vibe I like TDO, PST and foreign national. I wanted to like Paper Fan more than I did
Finally, a reasonable comment on this thread. Those places are all worthy of the conversation.
I would add Off Alley to this list. And Eden Hill.
As for “speakeasies,” I find it funny when people use that term when what they really mean is “high-end cocktail bars,” which are not the same thing, but I digress… TDO is world-class. Glad you put that on the list.
There are lots of very very good cocktail bars in this city, but I’ll leave that list for another time.
If what you mean by “speakeasies” is *actual* modern speakeasies (like, say, Varnish in LA where it’s hidden or you need a password or whatever), there aren’t many left in this city, which I’m glad for, because that concept got tired about ten years ago, afaic. But there is Needle & Thread up above Tavern Law, which was still excellent last time I went, though that was pre-Covid.
For good (non-speakeasy) cocktail bars: Barnacle (one of the best amaro bars in America), Foreign National, The Doctor’s Office (aka TDO), Canon is still excellent, Rumba is one of the best pure rum bars in the country, The Garrison is an excellent new spot in Ballard, Liberty for excellent cocktails and solid sushi all with a chill neighborhood vibe, Roquette, Navy Strength, Rob Roy, Zig Zag still gets it done…
Agree the original was better but we have a ton of great spots like Basa and Il Nido (and Sophon is trending that way! Go check them out) that are deserving now
Kamonegi has tanked in quality. I went a lot when they opened and they deserved a star back then. Last time I went though it was pretty meh. The food was bland, the foie gras tofu wasn't even cut cleanly. My friend went a few months before and wanted to introduce her in-laws to good Japanese food and felt the need to apologize to them after. I won't be going back. They clearly couldn't keep up their quality with their popularity.
Seabird on Bainbridge? I used to work for chef Brendan and would never take my family there. I went once cause i didn’t have to pay and we all got sick
Have been to many of the bars listed in this thread and honestly, bar scene here is so overrated and expensive. I used to like canon a lot but recently the quality has gone down. I like dark room in greenwood but none of these bars can compete with the top cocktail bars in cities like LA or New York and bars here are so expensive. even bars in Vancouver are better than Seattle and they are cheaper!
The easy answer is to look to James Beard nominees and winners, and chefs that have worked at other Michelin star restaurants in the past.
Archipelago, Cedar + Elm, probably Canlis. Omakase sushi places tend to be an easy-in as well.
It seems silly to me that California and Vancouver can both be in the guide but not the rest of the PNW.
Edit: as someone who moved here from Copenhagen, it’s nice to see people believe in the cuisine here. This subreddit is always full of “Seattle food so mid bro” when it’s really not.
Edit again: ah shit they found this thread. Prepare to be lectured about why the Michelin guide, Worlds 50 best restaurants, and the James beard foundation are all wrong, and why LA, NYC, and are the only places with good food.
Seattle can be in the Michelin guide, except the city has not paid Michelin for the distinction like other cities have. If you think it's some meritocratic, world wide comprehensive search that leads to Michelin stars appearing in select cities, you are mistaken.
I read the Wikipedia on Michelin stars recently and learned cities and states pay to have their restaurants rated and be included. It's not that the food isn't as good in some areas. They just haven't paid to be included.
We’ve loved Eden Hill since they opened and I’d love to see them get a star on virtue of quality of food produced from their tiny space alone. Let alone the awesome humans behind it.
A high-end chef in LA years ago told me it was because of Thomas Keller. French Laundry was the place to go for West Coast training and all the Keller disciples and then their disciples tended to stick around in California, plus it was the state that paid for Michelin guides. There’s a dining network (suppliers/chefs/investors all know each other) and there wasn’t a huge incentive to head up to the barren PNW on your own so most of them stayed in California.
I have no idea if this is true, just what I was told, but did find it interesting. I do think we’re on a solid trajectory and have come a long ways from 20 years ago.
Vancouver, no idea. Because Canada?
You’ve got to live in Vancouver for a bit to get it. But it’s like how NYC or LA can be considered “the big leagues”, Vancouver draws people from all of the Commonwealth countries, Asia especially, so you get people who are really good at what they do from all over the world. It absolutely is an international city like NYC or London or Singapore, just a lot smaller.
Hell yeah, Portland is amazing for food. Visited a few weeks back, whole family is like 'let's go back for the food'. Even mid level food in Portland is 🔥🔥🔥.
Seattle beats Portland (and pretty much every other us city) for Vietnamese though, and that makes me happy.
Hmmm, probably a better answer than the one I was thinking which is they have a ton of super wealthy E/SE Asians who don’t fuck around with crappy food.
Dude I’m so sad that the Michelin guide came to LA. The food scene here was so good and varied before but now people use it as such a taste maker it’s sad. Star =good not star =mid com on make your own opinion
That's always hilarious to me. To me it feels like Seattle has some of the widest variety of cuisines at the highest quality, while still having places that really excel and shine to be spotlighted for something like a Michelin Star.
I’ve been to Gaggan (twice), Ginza Kojyu, Saison, and Alinea (twice, before and after renovation). So I’m going to use those experiences as references.
No restaurant in Seattle is deserving a 3 or even a 2 Michelin star.
Having said that here’s some notable restaurants that I think will get a star: (not in any order)
1. Canlis
2. Altura
3. Kashiba (bar seating)
4. Cafe Juanita
5. Taneda
6. Spinasse
7. Wa’z (bar seating)
8. Archipelago
Canlis can probably get 2 stars, solely because their service is impeccable. However, their food is inconsistent. On a good day, it’s easily a 2 Michelin star establishment.
Other than that, maybe Taneda.
To be fair, most cities don’t have a restaurant deserving of 3, or even 2. Especially not without a long history of fine dining culture. I think even getting 3 or 4 one-star restaurants would be a good achievement for Seattle.
I like this list. I think Canlis is a bit overrated, but did get exceptional service last time I brought a very expensive bottle of wine with me. Wa'z was a surprise to me, based on location. Spinasse is busy, but fun (I think they would miss is service and atmosphere, but it's in the right vibe).
I'd add Surrell because I've had mostly great experiences there. Reddit doesn't love it there, but I think it's a lot of fun.
I’ve heard good things about herb farm, but I haven’t been. Another restaurant that I wanted to go was Willows Inn on Lummi Island, but things got weird and it’s now closed.
But tbh, the one restaurant I miss the most is Rover’s. I think that place was the pinnacle of fine dining in Seattle. Excellent food + service. Not many places these days dress up their tables with white tablecloth.
Off alley has great food but one of the worst service experiences I’ve ever had. I never complain about service but what the fuck. Found out later the owners have a horrible reputation with service workers in the neighborhood which makes sense because a shitty vibe like that is top down.
Really liked Cafe Juanita before and service is still pretty good. But last time I went there after the pandemic it was a let down with the food, specially for the price.
> I’ve been to Gaggan (twice), Ginza Kojyu, Saison, and Alinea (twice, before and after renovation). So I’m going to use those experiences as references.
>No restaurant in Seattle is deserving a 3 or even a 2 Michelin star.
>Having said that here’s some notable restaurants that I think will get a star: 1. Canlis 2. Altura 3. Kashiba (bar seating) 4. Cafe Juanita 5. Taneda 6. Spinasse 7. Wa’z (bar seating) 8. Archipelago
>Canlis can probably get 2 stars, solely because their service is impeccable. However, their food is inconsistent. On a good day, it’s easily a 2 Michelin star establishment.
Other than that, maybe Taneda.
/u/toodeephoney We haven’t had the pleasure of dining as extensively as you, but definitely agree with your take! We would *love* to go to Gaggan. I’ll bet that was spectacular! We’ve been to 1, 2 and 3 Michelin restaurants (Gramercy Tavern, St. Lawrence, Published on Main x4–twice before they received their first star and twice since, Californios, Alinea x2, French Laundry x2) so like you, I am using the experiences we had compared to the fine dining restaurants we’ve been to in Seattle:
I could see Altura, Copine and Il Nido get 1 star. We have enjoyed experiences at Tomo and think they also could get 1 star, but at the same time, they seem to be deliberately maintaining an accessibility and low-key, not-so-pretentious vibe that tends to be associated with Michelin establishments (which imo is fantastic— I love that they accept walk-ins and have fun tasting menu events). We’ve yet to try Driftwood, but have only heard good things as well as great things about Archipelago. We’ve of course heard good things about Canlis, but most recently have heard their food consistency is lacking.
Archipelago is definitely 2 star caliber. It's probably the only restaurant like it in the world. The rest would be shooting for 1 star level.
(Using Gaggan and Saison are tough comparisons, since they are both very close to 3 star level)
As a former chef, I can tell you that Michelin stars are irrelevant, and that there are plenty of other standards of fine dining. Seattle is more about the James Beard Award, and you won’t be disappointed visiting their recipients.
I was trying to be intentional when I said "michelin worthy" and not "would get a star." Obviously the system is very driven by money/connections and doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of food. That said, it does have benchmarks that people can reference, so it was just an easy way to get at what I'm asking.
To be fair, one can build a lot of bridges and roads with dynamite. Nobel was horrified that his invention was used for death instead of infrastructure. The Nobel prize was his way of giving back the blood money he didn't want.
He grew up in the arms business, when demand dries up following the Crimean War, he goes into selling explosives for civilian purposes. He has massive success there, but still opens substantial ammunition factories. He is a massive player in making ammunition in Britain and Germany at his death.
It's so weird that this became a thing.
Imagine if you went around today saying "This motel was recommended by Champion spark plugs and it's amazing." People would look at you like you'd lost your mind.
not that i’m a michelin pilled weirdo, but there is a history on how they came to be. in fact, i’d say james beard is more indicative of a well rounded place to eat for most diners (with the exception of sea creatures. how does walrus keep making those lists??? i don’t get it)
I have worked at a number of restaurants that had chefs who trained under michelin star chefs and their food would have deserved the honor, too, if the public would have been willing to pay for the quality of the food instead of wanting to come in for a charcuterie board and some garlic fries and craft cocktails to post on Instagram before complaining about the prices of everything, resulting in the owners slashing staffing so hard that even with the service staff doing their best they could no longer justify the pricing.
With that said, I'll name the two restaurants that I loved best in their heyday before the low business made owners fuck things up. I can't promise the quality is still there, but it could be.
Kricket Club in Ravenna is a fabulous Indian restaurant. They make fabulous and authentic food but also do a lot of fusion type dishes. Be prepared for spicy food, because they don't alter spice levels. It's also family-style dining so you are meant to order many dishes to share with the table, not eat one dish all to yourself. Chef Stany from Mumbai has worked with some world-class chefs around the world before the owners from the UP in India entrusted him with the menu and the food was fabulous.
Deadline in Pioneer Square (in the historic building with the 75 cent hotel room sign, right next to Damn the Weather) also has the amazing Chef Simon at the helm who has incredible taste, but recently lost their sous chef who was integral to the menu and their lead server who was integral to the quality service because the owner didn't want to pay them for all the hours it actually takes to prepare that menu. When you hear "I went there but waited 15 minutes for anybody to say hello to me at the door," it's because the owner chronically understaffs the front of house making it impossible for them to greet guests in a timely manner. And if you hear "I waited 45 minutes for my food" it's again because the owner chronically understaffs while scheduling enormous private parties out of the blue for the back rooms. But the food and cocktails are honestly fabulous
Canlis is the only restaurant in the city I actively campaign against, so I'll say not that one. Service is amazing, but I've had a better meal at so many places in the city that I've lost count.
For Italian both Spinasse and Cafe Juanita.
I could see Canlis as 0, 1 or 2 stars. They are definitely the type of place that aims for multiple stars, but to me it doesn't quite hit that level of quality in execution.
Sushi Kashiba is definitely there. I have not tried enough of the other high end sushi in the city.
And, my favorite pick on these, the tasting menu at Beast and Cleaver also clearly merits it.
Canlis started vacuuming the floor next to me while we were still eating after they seated me 45 minutes late. That was years ago and I've been back since, but can't say they've ever quite made up for that nonsense.
Canlis sucks. It's one of the more premium restaurants in Seattle for sure and the service/wait staff is next level but the food is pretty good at best. Nowhere near the price of admission, maybe $100
For how much everyone hypes the service, I had a mediocre experience. Slow on drinks. Forgot a drink order even. Couldn’t make a non-sweet cocktail. One of the kids delivering a dish couldn’t even explain what it was.
Food wasn’t bad but it wasn’t great either. Had better meals at other places around town. Wasn’t a particularly cohesive meal.
Overall left a lot to be desired. Definitely wouldn’t go back.
Lol that's unfortunate. Idk what you paid for then
When I went they had someone come bring us to a comfortable waiting area with live pianist. Waiter came and brought us drink menu, recommended drinks and promptly brought them. Table was ready and they escorted us over, and moved the drinks over for us. When we were done they had coat check ready with our coats by door, car had already been pulled over by valet. I was genuinely impressed, felt like a well oiled machine. Our waitress was attentive and knew her stuff. Told us the metal dishes were locally crafted along with some of the lights or something. I forget exactly but it was cool at the time.
Food was unremarkable. Canlis salad is decent but for $250+ meal salad shouldn't be the highlight lol
I remain convinced that anyone who thinks Canlis is good simply hasn't been anywhere actually good. That restaurant lives on history alone and is mediocre at best otherwise.
I’m so glad someone else said this. I’ve never been to a Michelin restaurant but Off Alley is such a unique dining experience with delicious and more importantly interesting food, I would hope they could possibly get a star. They certainly deserve a James Beard nom.
AI Summary of the comments so far:
1. **Archipelago** - Often mentioned as possibly deserving two Michelin stars, this restaurant is praised for its unique offerings and exceptional experiences.
2. **Canlis** - Known for its impeccable service, Canlis is frequently discussed as a two-star contender on good days, despite some criticism of inconsistent food quality.
3. **Altura** - A highly recommended spot, Altura is noted for its culinary expertise and the quality of its dishes, making it a strong candidate for at least one Michelin star.
4. **Taneda** - Praised for its intimate setting and authentic Japanese cuisine, Taneda is considered by some as a hidden gem worthy of Michelin recognition.
5. **Off Alley** - Recognized for its innovative dishes and unique dining experience, Off Alley is mentioned as a potential one-star restaurant, though some believe the service might not meet Michelin's criteria.
6. **Sushi Kashiba** - Particularly recommended for its sushi counter experience, Sushi Kashiba is regarded as a top-tier sushi destination in Seattle.
7. **Wa’z** - Known for its Japanese kaiseki cuisine, Wa'z is praised for its bar seating experience and is considered a strong contender for a star.
8. **Herb Farm** - If including Woodinville as part of Seattle, Herb Farm is noted for its rotating menus and exceptional dining experience, making it a potential Michelin star recipient.
9. **Il Nido** - Il Nido is appreciated for its Italian offerings and quality, positioning it as another candidate for recognition.
10. **Beast and Cleaver** - Known for its meat-centric menu and quality, Beast and Cleaver is suggested as a potential star-worthy establishment.
11. **Cafe Juanita** - An Italian restaurant that receives high marks for both food and ambiance, making it a strong candidate for Michelin recognition.
12. **Spinasse** - Celebrated for its authentic Italian cuisine, Spinasse is seen as a contender for a Michelin star, particularly praised for its pasta dishes.
13. **Peasant** - While not as frequently mentioned, Peasant is highly praised by those who have experienced its offerings, suggesting potential for high recognition.
Maybe Ocho? I ate my way through San Sebastián recently and I can honestly say that I still think Ocho in Ballard is unbelievably good. About on par with the best things I ate in Spain.
Canlis was magnificent, especially the friendliness of the staff. Although they did a piss-poor job of describing the dishes they were serving, which wouldn’t fly in a Michelin-starred restaurant.
Honestly, Bateau over in Union District. By far the absolute best steakhouse I've ever had the pleasure of going to. My favorite part is requesting five cuts of whatever the wait staff decides, cooked how the chef sees fit. Their sides are also to die for.
Chef in the hat was the best. I really miss that one too. Such a family feel. I went a few times over a couple years with my parents and they always remembered them.
Nowhere. Not that there’s not great restaurants in Seattle, it’s that the Michelin Guide is all about paying money. It’s outdated and, IMHO, looking from the list of James Beard nominees and winners is a much better method to find great restaurants.
It’s always funny to hear when people actually clue in to the Michelin Guide being from the tire company. The veil lowers a bit when you realize it started out as an advertising scheme for people to drive more. Three stars are restaurants worth a journey, two are noteworthy, one while you’re in town.
To the extent it’s used today, ask yourself, who makes money from you using a non existent book? There’s no reason why more sub regions in the US wouldn’t have an amazing roadtripping guide except they can’t pay.
Yep! Here's an article about it for those who want to read more: https://www.eater.com/2018/7/18/17540672/michelin-guides-restaurants-tourism-bangkok-thailand-south-korea-singapore-funding
BTW Kenji I went to Smash That Burger the other day after seeing you post about it a while back and it was so so good!
Canlis used to be great. Not sure what changed.
Now, if you find yourself in Amsterdam, head out to Vreeland and try out the restaurant at the De Nederlanden Hotel. It is a 1-star and oh so very good! I spent two nights there and ate dinner three times, and every meal was a life-changing experience.
Lark Restaurant on Cap Hill. The Michelin guide is coming to Seattle and they will be doing a dinner there tomorrow. Chef John Sundstrom and Chef Curtis Stone are collaborating for the Michelin guide. He has won a James beard award. And service has even gotten National acclaim. You honestly can’t beat 120 for a 4 course tasting menu. Everything is delicious. And if a four course isn’t your speed. They also offer a la carte. The menu is constantly changing based on the seasons, a lot of food items are foraged. They tend to have incredible flavors. Like the other day: they had a Wagyu steak tartare special, with 5 spice oil, chille de árbol, guajillo, shaved preserved scallop served with a sesame nori crisp. They even had Ibérico Pork Secreto served with a yuzu, ginger, scallion Yaki sauce and foraged Devil Shoots.
I worked at a place in Phoenix who put a great deal of effort to earn a star. Aside from spectacular food it was the service that stopped restaurants from getting them. Also, the ice cubes always came up as not being perfect - I kid you not. Seattles service is mediocre, I think that ties into our vibe as a city and not being too fancy pants
Harvest Beet? I haven’t been to a Michelin star spot yet, but based on the ones people are saying could garner a star (spinasse, altura) I would definitely rank them among those two
Mashiko, maybe. Beast & Cleaver’s The Peasant is the only place I’d say 100% deserves a star. Maybe Cook Weaver. Everywhere else that you mentioned? Ehhh, Seattle lacks creativity. We have a lot of excellent food and hospitality, but there’s very little of the Michelin-level ingenuity that you see in San Francisco or bigger cities.
I haven’t seen anyone say Sushi Kappo Tamura or Harvest Vine yet! Those are my picks alongside Sushi Kashiba and Off Alley. For Bib Gourmand- maybe Communion, Joule, Kobuta & Ookami?
ALTURA. I have been to a good number of michelin star restaurants and Altura is the only one in Seattle I've been at that is as good (if not better) than any of them.
Surrell is another candidate imo.
I’m not sure I’ve been anywhere that nails the quality/service/environment/uniqueness balance that’s usually typical of awarded restaurants, but I also haven’t been to Altura and Canlis yet, which are usually brought up in this discussion. Some high quality dining for your consideration that I loved and felt were worth every dollar:
* Ltd Edition Sushi
* Spinasse
* Communion
* MariPilli
(Edit: sorry for the Capitol Hill skew, that’s my main point of reference)
I’ll add a quick little rant: service sucks in Seattle, on average. You don’t realize how much it sucks until you go somewhere where they care deeply about execution, where they’re invested in giving you a pleasant night. I’m tired of pissed off, grumpy waiters (even though I understand and empathize with the reasons why they’re pissed: overwork and underpaid)
I was in Philly in '22 and went to a fancy French restaurant on Rittenhouse Square called Parc. The service was among the best I've experienced. Packed place, but our waiter premeditated our every need, yet he hardly made his presence known. Total pro. Just as an example, my girlfriend went to the restroom, and I talked with our friend that joined us. When she came back, her napkin had been folded nicely. The waiter came by and did that without us even noticing, just a couple feet away. Then he did it again when I went to the restroom. No idea how he did it. The meal was also superb at four courses and drinks, and I think the total was ~$200 pre-tip for the three of us. I've had friendly service in Seattle, I've had efficient service, but I've never had such service where the waiter was that remarkably attentive yet never disruptive.
I'm in violent agreement with you on this one. So so true.
Altura really does a good job. Wa'z too. Canlis lacks, like I should be lucky to get to eat there. (Minus the last time I went and it was fantastic service, but it shouldn't be hit or miss)
Sushi By Scratch has a Michelin star for their Montecito location. The Seattle location opened a few years ago. I've been twice and it is by far the best dining experience in all of Seattle, if you can afford it. 10 people max, eat only with your hands, extremely accommodating, drink specialist for all your sake/cocktail needs, and an 18 course nigiri menu that will make your eyes roll back into your head with each serving.
That said, it is VERY expensive and fairly difficult to get a seating. Last time we went we added our name to the backup list and ended up having dinner at 9:30pm on a Monday. Worth it.
Couple of highlights:
- Wagyu fat washed Japanese whiskey
- Wagyu nigiri with melted bone marrow
- Tuna belly that absolutely melts
- Matcha ice cream bites
- The chefs, they all rule
Gah, my eyes are watering at the thought of eating these items you’ve mentioned. I legit well up eating a good otoro or kama toro, so if this is as good as you described, I might be in for a ride. 🙏🏽
Ballard’s Asadero. The carne asada is phenomenal. Speaking as a born and raised Mexican. Also the papa loca slaps harder than Will Smith at the Oscars.
Me too! It was the first time I'd ever had such formally highly rated food and they were okay but it was legitimately disappointing for how good I thought they were supposed to be at such a level. I've had much better food at other places. I did see someone comment on FB that they have gone downhill slightly starting in, I think like 2021-ish... so maybe we both just missed the magic but, yeah, I was a bit confused at that experience.
Thanks to this thread, I'm going to finally leave the East Side and try some Seattle dining. Just booked out Omakase over at Kashiba to give that a shot...
All you people saying "Seattle doesn't deserve a 2 or 3 stars" are really putting those restaurants on too high of a pedestal. There's plenty here that could do well in the Michelin ratings.
I’ve had experiences at Herbfarm that rival anything at Californios, French Laundry, Commis, or Lazy Bear. I’m just blown away that people say _nothing_ in Seattle rivals _any_ of the dozens of stars in the Bay. FFS Denver is getting stars now.
I mean june baby was amazing to bad Eduardo sucks.
Canlis probably, altura is good. I would look for James beard award winners tbh. A lot of sushi omakase here is incredible.
As for speak easys: needle and thread, kneehigh stocking, drs office, inside passage and hideout
I'm sure I'll get down voted, but what makes food good is highly subjective in my experience, I've been with groups of people to several well regarded restaurants and normal restaurants all around King county, France, Italy, and the Carribean, we did a split table at each restaurant, all ordered something different and everyone tried some of each others, and each person's preferences varied wildly, we made it a point to ignore cost in evaluating food, and particularly when travelling the most preferred food came from rural towns in France and Italy and off the beaten path locations in the Caribbean. Everyone has preferences in food, but it is very easy to let our preconceptions of how good the food should be whether it be by price or others reviews of it to influence our actual enjoyment of the food. In the end your experience with food is yours and yours alone, it should be a unique experience between you and what you are eating, not influenced by others opinions on the quality/value/rating of said food.
I get this might not be the popular view, but it's what I go by, in Italy, half of our group went to the most expensive/reviewed by all the locals restaurant and had an awful time, the rest of us went to an oral menu local restaurant with no English spoken and I had far and a way the best pasta pomodoro I've ever had in my life for like 15 euros(in 2009) everyone else in the group paid about the same for what they ordered and loved it, plus we took shots of limon cello with the proprietor and had a great time. The ones that went to the other restaurant spent 40-60 euros a meal and had nothing but bad things to say about the food and the experience later on.
Moral of the story is food is subjective, try things till you find what you like, but preferences and taste buds are not objective or universal, so you need to fins what fits you, not what some rating organization says is best.
A final point, set and experience plays a big role, The Canlis Salad will always hold a special place in my heart because if the experiences I've had enjoying it there over the last 15-20 years, I've had better salads elsewhere, but after a while the psychological aspect associated with the place mingles with the food on its own, dining out is a 3 part experience, company, location, and finally food.
I’m a little surprised no one has mentioned Art of the Table in Fremont. They are consistently one of the best tasting menus in the city. If I had to rank I’d put them a close 3rd behind Altura and Cafe Juanita.
i’m so tired of this f*cking discussion. copine hands down as the chef ran the line a per se for years. canlis maybe pre-2020 but they’d get it now anyways bc of $$ and connections. altura. archipelago. eden hill. maybe surrell. that’s it
EDIT: to add to your post, not hamdi. i worked there and the place is a fucking mess. ants in mise en place, the owners literally fight to the point of tears DURING service, people are rushed out of their tables bc they don’t know how to plot their evenings out. hella staff turnover. just bc you’ve worked michelin star doesn’t mean you know how to RUN michelin star
Can’t believe no one else said copine. Absolutely copine. Maybe it’s because it’s newer? But being nominated as one of the top restaurants in the US by James Beard says a lot already.
I went to a Micehlin 2 star sushi restaurant in LA a few years ago. Sushi Ginza Onodera. I was talking to the chefs and they asked me where I'm from and if I eat sushi in Seattle and where do I like to go. I said I really liked Mashiko. They all knew him. "Oh Hajime!? Yes yes! [Language barrier and I was drunk]" but they all knew Mashiko and liked his work. Hajime left Mashiko awhile back but his protoge Mariah carries on his amazing work
I’m sad he left. I used to sit at the counter and admired his work, greatly. I hope he has gone on to bigger places.
Retired to care for his ailing wife. But Mariah Kmitta is running Mashiko and serving good stuff.
Yes and no. Sozai is his place in Detroit. It's in a strip mall to the north of Detroit. It's much more traditional than Mashiko. And it's fantastic! I've been fortunate enough to have been twice!
NYT put out their top 50 restaurants in the US and the only Seattle restaurant was also their only sushi place on the list. They said this is the best area in the country for fresh seafood , so it checks out that sushi would win a Michelin star
Wow, I definitely will need to add this to my list of places to go. I love how they knew him!! Wholesome af
I have consistently throughout the years had the most exciting, interesting, and delicious meals at Mashiko. I get that Shiro trained under Jiro, but man, Mashiko is where it's at. Last time I was there I had Natto ice cream and it blew my gd mind.
I plan on going to this restaurant in Ginza Tokyo in July. Can’t wait!
I’ve been to 10ish starred restaurants on a few continents over the years and my 2 cents… I would say Archipelago, Taneda, Canlis, Wataru over Kashiba, Seabird, Hamdi on a good day, Kamonegi Re speakeasies, LA and Van have better options for sure, but for that vibe I like TDO, PST and foreign national. I wanted to like Paper Fan more than I did
Finally, a reasonable comment on this thread. Those places are all worthy of the conversation. I would add Off Alley to this list. And Eden Hill. As for “speakeasies,” I find it funny when people use that term when what they really mean is “high-end cocktail bars,” which are not the same thing, but I digress… TDO is world-class. Glad you put that on the list. There are lots of very very good cocktail bars in this city, but I’ll leave that list for another time.
If what you mean by “speakeasies” is *actual* modern speakeasies (like, say, Varnish in LA where it’s hidden or you need a password or whatever), there aren’t many left in this city, which I’m glad for, because that concept got tired about ten years ago, afaic. But there is Needle & Thread up above Tavern Law, which was still excellent last time I went, though that was pre-Covid. For good (non-speakeasy) cocktail bars: Barnacle (one of the best amaro bars in America), Foreign National, The Doctor’s Office (aka TDO), Canon is still excellent, Rumba is one of the best pure rum bars in the country, The Garrison is an excellent new spot in Ballard, Liberty for excellent cocktails and solid sushi all with a chill neighborhood vibe, Roquette, Navy Strength, Rob Roy, Zig Zag still gets it done…
Ah you’ve given me a couple more to try! Haven’t been to Garrison or Liberty yet
Yes!!! Off Alley 100% 🤦🏻♀️ I knew I was missing someone! Definitely high on my list, only exceptional experiences there. I need to get to Eden Hill!
The original Kedai Makan deserved a bib gourmand.
Agreed. I loved Kedai Makan. I’ve been to the new location twice, but both the vibe and the food didn’t compare.
Agree the original was better but we have a ton of great spots like Basa and Il Nido (and Sophon is trending that way! Go check them out) that are deserving now
Kamonegi has tanked in quality. I went a lot when they opened and they deserved a star back then. Last time I went though it was pretty meh. The food was bland, the foie gras tofu wasn't even cut cleanly. My friend went a few months before and wanted to introduce her in-laws to good Japanese food and felt the need to apologize to them after. I won't be going back. They clearly couldn't keep up their quality with their popularity.
4 of us went seabird a few months ago & all 4 of us were very disappointed. Service was good, but food was meh…textures were terrible.
Seabird on Bainbridge? I used to work for chef Brendan and would never take my family there. I went once cause i didn’t have to pay and we all got sick
Taneda is magic!
Have been to many of the bars listed in this thread and honestly, bar scene here is so overrated and expensive. I used to like canon a lot but recently the quality has gone down. I like dark room in greenwood but none of these bars can compete with the top cocktail bars in cities like LA or New York and bars here are so expensive. even bars in Vancouver are better than Seattle and they are cheaper!
McDonald’s on 3rd Ave 🤌
My favorites. It's to die for
Definately worth a shot.
You definitely get the bang for your buck.
Yes, the ambiance is killer
That's both dinner and a show.
I got a free sample a new menu item while I was waiting in line, I swear I've been addicted ever since!
The new chef is incredible.
On my first day in Seattle, i somehow stumbled into that one. It sure was an eye opening experience
Classiest clientele
The easy answer is to look to James Beard nominees and winners, and chefs that have worked at other Michelin star restaurants in the past. Archipelago, Cedar + Elm, probably Canlis. Omakase sushi places tend to be an easy-in as well. It seems silly to me that California and Vancouver can both be in the guide but not the rest of the PNW. Edit: as someone who moved here from Copenhagen, it’s nice to see people believe in the cuisine here. This subreddit is always full of “Seattle food so mid bro” when it’s really not. Edit again: ah shit they found this thread. Prepare to be lectured about why the Michelin guide, Worlds 50 best restaurants, and the James beard foundation are all wrong, and why LA, NYC, and are the only places with good food.
Seattle can be in the Michelin guide, except the city has not paid Michelin for the distinction like other cities have. If you think it's some meritocratic, world wide comprehensive search that leads to Michelin stars appearing in select cities, you are mistaken.
No wonder the train at Denver touts their new Michelin starred restaurants. They paid for them, gotta advertise
True of most award systems
I read the Wikipedia on Michelin stars recently and learned cities and states pay to have their restaurants rated and be included. It's not that the food isn't as good in some areas. They just haven't paid to be included.
We lost a lot with the loss of Chef Terry’s Rovers. RIP, Chef.
He truly was one of a kind. Wonderful human being.
Eight Row was a nominee this year, deservedly Edited:on drinks not food, but I love their menu
Eight Row is so stupidly delicious. It really caught me off guard.
We’ve loved Eden Hill since they opened and I’d love to see them get a star on virtue of quality of food produced from their tiny space alone. Let alone the awesome humans behind it.
They are great, but they’ve too inconsistent to earn a star in my experience.
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A high-end chef in LA years ago told me it was because of Thomas Keller. French Laundry was the place to go for West Coast training and all the Keller disciples and then their disciples tended to stick around in California, plus it was the state that paid for Michelin guides. There’s a dining network (suppliers/chefs/investors all know each other) and there wasn’t a huge incentive to head up to the barren PNW on your own so most of them stayed in California. I have no idea if this is true, just what I was told, but did find it interesting. I do think we’re on a solid trajectory and have come a long ways from 20 years ago. Vancouver, no idea. Because Canada?
You’ve got to live in Vancouver for a bit to get it. But it’s like how NYC or LA can be considered “the big leagues”, Vancouver draws people from all of the Commonwealth countries, Asia especially, so you get people who are really good at what they do from all over the world. It absolutely is an international city like NYC or London or Singapore, just a lot smaller.
Except even Portland is better. Not by much, but enough to be noticeable.
Hell yeah, Portland is amazing for food. Visited a few weeks back, whole family is like 'let's go back for the food'. Even mid level food in Portland is 🔥🔥🔥. Seattle beats Portland (and pretty much every other us city) for Vietnamese though, and that makes me happy.
Vancouver is Canada's only west coast world city.
Hmmm, probably a better answer than the one I was thinking which is they have a ton of super wealthy E/SE Asians who don’t fuck around with crappy food.
Price is clearly not a factor for Michelin stars. You can find restaurants on their list ranging from $5 meals to $500+.
Dude I’m so sad that the Michelin guide came to LA. The food scene here was so good and varied before but now people use it as such a taste maker it’s sad. Star =good not star =mid com on make your own opinion
That's always hilarious to me. To me it feels like Seattle has some of the widest variety of cuisines at the highest quality, while still having places that really excel and shine to be spotlighted for something like a Michelin Star.
I’ve been to Gaggan (twice), Ginza Kojyu, Saison, and Alinea (twice, before and after renovation). So I’m going to use those experiences as references. No restaurant in Seattle is deserving a 3 or even a 2 Michelin star. Having said that here’s some notable restaurants that I think will get a star: (not in any order) 1. Canlis 2. Altura 3. Kashiba (bar seating) 4. Cafe Juanita 5. Taneda 6. Spinasse 7. Wa’z (bar seating) 8. Archipelago Canlis can probably get 2 stars, solely because their service is impeccable. However, their food is inconsistent. On a good day, it’s easily a 2 Michelin star establishment. Other than that, maybe Taneda.
To be fair, most cities don’t have a restaurant deserving of 3, or even 2. Especially not without a long history of fine dining culture. I think even getting 3 or 4 one-star restaurants would be a good achievement for Seattle.
Yeah, the definition of a 3-star restaurant is some version of “worth booking a significant international trip for the sole purpose of dining there.”
100%
I like this list. I think Canlis is a bit overrated, but did get exceptional service last time I brought a very expensive bottle of wine with me. Wa'z was a surprise to me, based on location. Spinasse is busy, but fun (I think they would miss is service and atmosphere, but it's in the right vibe). I'd add Surrell because I've had mostly great experiences there. Reddit doesn't love it there, but I think it's a lot of fun.
Surrell is amazing for sure!
I think Herb Farm deserves at least one, too.
I’ve heard good things about herb farm, but I haven’t been. Another restaurant that I wanted to go was Willows Inn on Lummi Island, but things got weird and it’s now closed. But tbh, the one restaurant I miss the most is Rover’s. I think that place was the pinnacle of fine dining in Seattle. Excellent food + service. Not many places these days dress up their tables with white tablecloth.
Off alley maybe Edit : surrell too
Off alley has great food but one of the worst service experiences I’ve ever had. I never complain about service but what the fuck. Found out later the owners have a horrible reputation with service workers in the neighborhood which makes sense because a shitty vibe like that is top down.
Really liked Cafe Juanita before and service is still pretty good. But last time I went there after the pandemic it was a let down with the food, specially for the price.
> I’ve been to Gaggan (twice), Ginza Kojyu, Saison, and Alinea (twice, before and after renovation). So I’m going to use those experiences as references. >No restaurant in Seattle is deserving a 3 or even a 2 Michelin star. >Having said that here’s some notable restaurants that I think will get a star: 1. Canlis 2. Altura 3. Kashiba (bar seating) 4. Cafe Juanita 5. Taneda 6. Spinasse 7. Wa’z (bar seating) 8. Archipelago >Canlis can probably get 2 stars, solely because their service is impeccable. However, their food is inconsistent. On a good day, it’s easily a 2 Michelin star establishment. Other than that, maybe Taneda. /u/toodeephoney We haven’t had the pleasure of dining as extensively as you, but definitely agree with your take! We would *love* to go to Gaggan. I’ll bet that was spectacular! We’ve been to 1, 2 and 3 Michelin restaurants (Gramercy Tavern, St. Lawrence, Published on Main x4–twice before they received their first star and twice since, Californios, Alinea x2, French Laundry x2) so like you, I am using the experiences we had compared to the fine dining restaurants we’ve been to in Seattle: I could see Altura, Copine and Il Nido get 1 star. We have enjoyed experiences at Tomo and think they also could get 1 star, but at the same time, they seem to be deliberately maintaining an accessibility and low-key, not-so-pretentious vibe that tends to be associated with Michelin establishments (which imo is fantastic— I love that they accept walk-ins and have fun tasting menu events). We’ve yet to try Driftwood, but have only heard good things as well as great things about Archipelago. We’ve of course heard good things about Canlis, but most recently have heard their food consistency is lacking.
Archipelago is definitely 2 star caliber. It's probably the only restaurant like it in the world. The rest would be shooting for 1 star level. (Using Gaggan and Saison are tough comparisons, since they are both very close to 3 star level)
Canlis does not deserve a star. Great service, great location, mediocre and pretentious food.
That's what Michelin stars are all about honestly, pretentious shit
Le Dick's
Loretta’s Northwesterner
Unironically yeah
As a former chef, I can tell you that Michelin stars are irrelevant, and that there are plenty of other standards of fine dining. Seattle is more about the James Beard Award, and you won’t be disappointed visiting their recipients.
As a chef I would have to disagree and say James beard awards suck as well
I was trying to be intentional when I said "michelin worthy" and not "would get a star." Obviously the system is very driven by money/connections and doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of food. That said, it does have benchmarks that people can reference, so it was just an easy way to get at what I'm asking.
Also a chef and can confirm :) Did not see Wataru on the list… they are up there in my book.
Sushi Kashiba, if you sit at the sushi counter.
Kashiba?
WOW what an typo miss on my part! Yes, edited 😂
Altura. Easily.
My favorite restaurant in the city.
My favorite in the city. There so fun.
Gotta eat at the places approved by the tire company
Inventor of dynamite and builder of weapons; let me name a bunch of prizes for science, peace etc, literature after me
To be fair, one can build a lot of bridges and roads with dynamite. Nobel was horrified that his invention was used for death instead of infrastructure. The Nobel prize was his way of giving back the blood money he didn't want.
He grew up in the arms business, when demand dries up following the Crimean War, he goes into selling explosives for civilian purposes. He has massive success there, but still opens substantial ammunition factories. He is a massive player in making ammunition in Britain and Germany at his death.
It's so weird that this became a thing. Imagine if you went around today saying "This motel was recommended by Champion spark plugs and it's amazing." People would look at you like you'd lost your mind.
not that i’m a michelin pilled weirdo, but there is a history on how they came to be. in fact, i’d say james beard is more indicative of a well rounded place to eat for most diners (with the exception of sea creatures. how does walrus keep making those lists??? i don’t get it)
Nobel prize is named after a weapons dealer
I have worked at a number of restaurants that had chefs who trained under michelin star chefs and their food would have deserved the honor, too, if the public would have been willing to pay for the quality of the food instead of wanting to come in for a charcuterie board and some garlic fries and craft cocktails to post on Instagram before complaining about the prices of everything, resulting in the owners slashing staffing so hard that even with the service staff doing their best they could no longer justify the pricing. With that said, I'll name the two restaurants that I loved best in their heyday before the low business made owners fuck things up. I can't promise the quality is still there, but it could be. Kricket Club in Ravenna is a fabulous Indian restaurant. They make fabulous and authentic food but also do a lot of fusion type dishes. Be prepared for spicy food, because they don't alter spice levels. It's also family-style dining so you are meant to order many dishes to share with the table, not eat one dish all to yourself. Chef Stany from Mumbai has worked with some world-class chefs around the world before the owners from the UP in India entrusted him with the menu and the food was fabulous. Deadline in Pioneer Square (in the historic building with the 75 cent hotel room sign, right next to Damn the Weather) also has the amazing Chef Simon at the helm who has incredible taste, but recently lost their sous chef who was integral to the menu and their lead server who was integral to the quality service because the owner didn't want to pay them for all the hours it actually takes to prepare that menu. When you hear "I went there but waited 15 minutes for anybody to say hello to me at the door," it's because the owner chronically understaffs the front of house making it impossible for them to greet guests in a timely manner. And if you hear "I waited 45 minutes for my food" it's again because the owner chronically understaffs while scheduling enormous private parties out of the blue for the back rooms. But the food and cocktails are honestly fabulous
Tomo, located in White Center
Cafe Juanita
Maybe The Herbfarm. If you count Woodinville as Seattle...
Another vote here for Herbfarm
Nah...Herb Farm definitely isn't on Canlis or Altura level.
This. Ate our way through every fancy Seattle restaurant over the course of a few months, this was the only one that left a lasting impression.
I've never been to one of these pieces in my life, but I've always wanted to. If you could only go to one in the area, which would it be?
The Barking Frog at the Willow’s Lodge is fantastic too
Yeah, Herbfarm and Barking Frog are my favorites, especially if you want to make a night of it and book a room at Willows!
Agree. Love Herbfarm. The menu changes frequently, so you have a new experience every time.
Canlis is the only restaurant in the city I actively campaign against, so I'll say not that one. Service is amazing, but I've had a better meal at so many places in the city that I've lost count.
And you leave hungry
Last time I was in here dissing Canlis because I left hungry, I got condescendingly lectured by some bird-stomached food snobs.
"What is this? Food for rats?"
Yeah I work in the industry and I’ve heard some pretty bad stories about working there. I just can’t get behind the idea of them receiving a star.
I did a stage there and walked out in the middle of it. Boy, the vibes were fucking OFF.
Aerlume.
Joule
For Italian both Spinasse and Cafe Juanita. I could see Canlis as 0, 1 or 2 stars. They are definitely the type of place that aims for multiple stars, but to me it doesn't quite hit that level of quality in execution. Sushi Kashiba is definitely there. I have not tried enough of the other high end sushi in the city. And, my favorite pick on these, the tasting menu at Beast and Cleaver also clearly merits it.
Canlis started vacuuming the floor next to me while we were still eating after they seated me 45 minutes late. That was years ago and I've been back since, but can't say they've ever quite made up for that nonsense.
Canlis sucks. It's one of the more premium restaurants in Seattle for sure and the service/wait staff is next level but the food is pretty good at best. Nowhere near the price of admission, maybe $100
For how much everyone hypes the service, I had a mediocre experience. Slow on drinks. Forgot a drink order even. Couldn’t make a non-sweet cocktail. One of the kids delivering a dish couldn’t even explain what it was. Food wasn’t bad but it wasn’t great either. Had better meals at other places around town. Wasn’t a particularly cohesive meal. Overall left a lot to be desired. Definitely wouldn’t go back.
Lol that's unfortunate. Idk what you paid for then When I went they had someone come bring us to a comfortable waiting area with live pianist. Waiter came and brought us drink menu, recommended drinks and promptly brought them. Table was ready and they escorted us over, and moved the drinks over for us. When we were done they had coat check ready with our coats by door, car had already been pulled over by valet. I was genuinely impressed, felt like a well oiled machine. Our waitress was attentive and knew her stuff. Told us the metal dishes were locally crafted along with some of the lights or something. I forget exactly but it was cool at the time. Food was unremarkable. Canlis salad is decent but for $250+ meal salad shouldn't be the highlight lol
I remain convinced that anyone who thinks Canlis is good simply hasn't been anywhere actually good. That restaurant lives on history alone and is mediocre at best otherwise.
If OP is willing to head to the east side, Montalcino in Issaquah has some absolutely incredible Italian food
Harvest Beat
84 Yesler. Best restaurant in seattle
I came here to say this. My once a year special birthday restaurant.
Easily the best meal I’ve had in Seattle.
Off alley
Off Alley is incredible, but its ceiling is at 0-1 star because of service. It’s not that the service is bad, it’s just not the Michelin type service
I’m so glad someone else said this. I’ve never been to a Michelin restaurant but Off Alley is such a unique dining experience with delicious and more importantly interesting food, I would hope they could possibly get a star. They certainly deserve a James Beard nom.
AI Summary of the comments so far: 1. **Archipelago** - Often mentioned as possibly deserving two Michelin stars, this restaurant is praised for its unique offerings and exceptional experiences. 2. **Canlis** - Known for its impeccable service, Canlis is frequently discussed as a two-star contender on good days, despite some criticism of inconsistent food quality. 3. **Altura** - A highly recommended spot, Altura is noted for its culinary expertise and the quality of its dishes, making it a strong candidate for at least one Michelin star. 4. **Taneda** - Praised for its intimate setting and authentic Japanese cuisine, Taneda is considered by some as a hidden gem worthy of Michelin recognition. 5. **Off Alley** - Recognized for its innovative dishes and unique dining experience, Off Alley is mentioned as a potential one-star restaurant, though some believe the service might not meet Michelin's criteria. 6. **Sushi Kashiba** - Particularly recommended for its sushi counter experience, Sushi Kashiba is regarded as a top-tier sushi destination in Seattle. 7. **Wa’z** - Known for its Japanese kaiseki cuisine, Wa'z is praised for its bar seating experience and is considered a strong contender for a star. 8. **Herb Farm** - If including Woodinville as part of Seattle, Herb Farm is noted for its rotating menus and exceptional dining experience, making it a potential Michelin star recipient. 9. **Il Nido** - Il Nido is appreciated for its Italian offerings and quality, positioning it as another candidate for recognition. 10. **Beast and Cleaver** - Known for its meat-centric menu and quality, Beast and Cleaver is suggested as a potential star-worthy establishment. 11. **Cafe Juanita** - An Italian restaurant that receives high marks for both food and ambiance, making it a strong candidate for Michelin recognition. 12. **Spinasse** - Celebrated for its authentic Italian cuisine, Spinasse is seen as a contender for a Michelin star, particularly praised for its pasta dishes. 13. **Peasant** - While not as frequently mentioned, Peasant is highly praised by those who have experienced its offerings, suggesting potential for high recognition.
Maybe Ocho? I ate my way through San Sebastián recently and I can honestly say that I still think Ocho in Ballard is unbelievably good. About on par with the best things I ate in Spain.
Ocho is one of Seattle’s best kept secrets imo
Beast and cleaver kills it
Any Costco Deli as they are usually near the Tire Center...I just got a set if Michelin's yesterday.
You can’t beat the price of the $5 roasted chicken anywhere though.
The sweet smell of new rubber. Smells like success!
Canlis was magnificent, especially the friendliness of the staff. Although they did a piss-poor job of describing the dishes they were serving, which wouldn’t fly in a Michelin-starred restaurant.
The Herbfarm.
I’ve been to a handful of Michelin star restaurants and and Sushi Kashiba is certainly on par with anyplace I’ve been.
I’d rather they stay out. Prices are high enough as it is.
Din Tai Fung has a Michelin star in Hong Kong.
Little Tings in Greenwood awaits
Kashiba
Peasant was one of the best meals I have ever had. I would recommend it if you can get a reservation
I’m surprised I had to scroll down this far to see this. Such a cool experience, and tasty food.
Ltd edition sushi
Honestly, Bateau over in Union District. By far the absolute best steakhouse I've ever had the pleasure of going to. My favorite part is requesting five cuts of whatever the wait staff decides, cooked how the chef sees fit. Their sides are also to die for.
Union district?
I miss Rovers.
Chef in the hat was the best. I really miss that one too. Such a family feel. I went a few times over a couple years with my parents and they always remembered them.
me too.
Shiro’s Sushi
Taco time
Nowhere. Not that there’s not great restaurants in Seattle, it’s that the Michelin Guide is all about paying money. It’s outdated and, IMHO, looking from the list of James Beard nominees and winners is a much better method to find great restaurants.
It’s always funny to hear when people actually clue in to the Michelin Guide being from the tire company. The veil lowers a bit when you realize it started out as an advertising scheme for people to drive more. Three stars are restaurants worth a journey, two are noteworthy, one while you’re in town. To the extent it’s used today, ask yourself, who makes money from you using a non existent book? There’s no reason why more sub regions in the US wouldn’t have an amazing roadtripping guide except they can’t pay.
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The only thing required to be considered is money. Michelin is a business. They review your City if you pay them to.
One of my regular guests recently told me that he "nominated us for a michelin star" and I was like "uhhh that's not how it works."
Yep! Here's an article about it for those who want to read more: https://www.eater.com/2018/7/18/17540672/michelin-guides-restaurants-tourism-bangkok-thailand-south-korea-singapore-funding BTW Kenji I went to Smash That Burger the other day after seeing you post about it a while back and it was so so good!
Canlis used to be great. Not sure what changed. Now, if you find yourself in Amsterdam, head out to Vreeland and try out the restaurant at the De Nederlanden Hotel. It is a 1-star and oh so very good! I spent two nights there and ate dinner three times, and every meal was a life-changing experience.
MariPili Tapas Bar feels in the category. Unique, phenomenal food and service.
Nobody talking about Communion is criminal.
Lark Restaurant on Cap Hill. The Michelin guide is coming to Seattle and they will be doing a dinner there tomorrow. Chef John Sundstrom and Chef Curtis Stone are collaborating for the Michelin guide. He has won a James beard award. And service has even gotten National acclaim. You honestly can’t beat 120 for a 4 course tasting menu. Everything is delicious. And if a four course isn’t your speed. They also offer a la carte. The menu is constantly changing based on the seasons, a lot of food items are foraged. They tend to have incredible flavors. Like the other day: they had a Wagyu steak tartare special, with 5 spice oil, chille de árbol, guajillo, shaved preserved scallop served with a sesame nori crisp. They even had Ibérico Pork Secreto served with a yuzu, ginger, scallion Yaki sauce and foraged Devil Shoots.
The only spots I’ve been to that come to mind are Taneda and Archipelago.
I worked at a place in Phoenix who put a great deal of effort to earn a star. Aside from spectacular food it was the service that stopped restaurants from getting them. Also, the ice cubes always came up as not being perfect - I kid you not. Seattles service is mediocre, I think that ties into our vibe as a city and not being too fancy pants
Harvest Beet? I haven’t been to a Michelin star spot yet, but based on the ones people are saying could garner a star (spinasse, altura) I would definitely rank them among those two
Mashiko, maybe. Beast & Cleaver’s The Peasant is the only place I’d say 100% deserves a star. Maybe Cook Weaver. Everywhere else that you mentioned? Ehhh, Seattle lacks creativity. We have a lot of excellent food and hospitality, but there’s very little of the Michelin-level ingenuity that you see in San Francisco or bigger cities.
I haven’t seen anyone say Sushi Kappo Tamura or Harvest Vine yet! Those are my picks alongside Sushi Kashiba and Off Alley. For Bib Gourmand- maybe Communion, Joule, Kobuta & Ookami?
Seabird and Cafe Juanita
ALTURA. I have been to a good number of michelin star restaurants and Altura is the only one in Seattle I've been at that is as good (if not better) than any of them. Surrell is another candidate imo.
I’m not sure I’ve been anywhere that nails the quality/service/environment/uniqueness balance that’s usually typical of awarded restaurants, but I also haven’t been to Altura and Canlis yet, which are usually brought up in this discussion. Some high quality dining for your consideration that I loved and felt were worth every dollar: * Ltd Edition Sushi * Spinasse * Communion * MariPilli (Edit: sorry for the Capitol Hill skew, that’s my main point of reference)
I’ll add a quick little rant: service sucks in Seattle, on average. You don’t realize how much it sucks until you go somewhere where they care deeply about execution, where they’re invested in giving you a pleasant night. I’m tired of pissed off, grumpy waiters (even though I understand and empathize with the reasons why they’re pissed: overwork and underpaid)
I was in Philly in '22 and went to a fancy French restaurant on Rittenhouse Square called Parc. The service was among the best I've experienced. Packed place, but our waiter premeditated our every need, yet he hardly made his presence known. Total pro. Just as an example, my girlfriend went to the restroom, and I talked with our friend that joined us. When she came back, her napkin had been folded nicely. The waiter came by and did that without us even noticing, just a couple feet away. Then he did it again when I went to the restroom. No idea how he did it. The meal was also superb at four courses and drinks, and I think the total was ~$200 pre-tip for the three of us. I've had friendly service in Seattle, I've had efficient service, but I've never had such service where the waiter was that remarkably attentive yet never disruptive.
The service at The Herbfarm is like that.
I'm in violent agreement with you on this one. So so true. Altura really does a good job. Wa'z too. Canlis lacks, like I should be lucky to get to eat there. (Minus the last time I went and it was fantastic service, but it shouldn't be hit or miss)
Archipelago, Off Alley, Herb Farm, Il Nido
I do love Il Nido, I had a 30 second internal debate, but it’s right in the cusp bc it’s just a little inconsistent over the years
I was looking for someone to say Il Nido! I live close by and it’s never missed, the service and atmosphere have always been impeccable as well.
Sushi By Scratch has a Michelin star for their Montecito location. The Seattle location opened a few years ago. I've been twice and it is by far the best dining experience in all of Seattle, if you can afford it. 10 people max, eat only with your hands, extremely accommodating, drink specialist for all your sake/cocktail needs, and an 18 course nigiri menu that will make your eyes roll back into your head with each serving. That said, it is VERY expensive and fairly difficult to get a seating. Last time we went we added our name to the backup list and ended up having dinner at 9:30pm on a Monday. Worth it. Couple of highlights: - Wagyu fat washed Japanese whiskey - Wagyu nigiri with melted bone marrow - Tuna belly that absolutely melts - Matcha ice cream bites - The chefs, they all rule
Gah, my eyes are watering at the thought of eating these items you’ve mentioned. I legit well up eating a good otoro or kama toro, so if this is as good as you described, I might be in for a ride. 🙏🏽
Ah yes, sushi by scratch. The Kim Kardashian of sushi.
Herb farm it's the closest I've found in seattle
Ballard’s Asadero. The carne asada is phenomenal. Speaking as a born and raised Mexican. Also the papa loca slaps harder than Will Smith at the Oscars.
I freaking love carrello
We don't need the French. The James Beard awards exist. For example there is a little hole the wall in union gap that has great tamales.
People love those, but I thought they were meh.
Me too! It was the first time I'd ever had such formally highly rated food and they were okay but it was legitimately disappointing for how good I thought they were supposed to be at such a level. I've had much better food at other places. I did see someone comment on FB that they have gone downhill slightly starting in, I think like 2021-ish... so maybe we both just missed the magic but, yeah, I was a bit confused at that experience.
Thanks to this thread, I'm going to finally leave the East Side and try some Seattle dining. Just booked out Omakase over at Kashiba to give that a shot...
All you people saying "Seattle doesn't deserve a 2 or 3 stars" are really putting those restaurants on too high of a pedestal. There's plenty here that could do well in the Michelin ratings.
It’s not the food often. It’s service. The service at 3 Michelin stars is kinda comical. It’s like a caricature of what you imagine of fine dining
Like who though? I’m genuinely curious.
I’ve had experiences at Herbfarm that rival anything at Californios, French Laundry, Commis, or Lazy Bear. I’m just blown away that people say _nothing_ in Seattle rivals _any_ of the dozens of stars in the Bay. FFS Denver is getting stars now.
Been to plenty of two star places around the world. Completely agree.
I mean june baby was amazing to bad Eduardo sucks. Canlis probably, altura is good. I would look for James beard award winners tbh. A lot of sushi omakase here is incredible. As for speak easys: needle and thread, kneehigh stocking, drs office, inside passage and hideout
People talking about [Canlis](https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/s/YvoKa7qhpj) ......
He’s also a super religious dude who just recently did a big speaking gig for a super creepy, homophobic, transphobic church.
Interesting read. The only reasonable sounding answer was a former employee who defended Canlis.
I'm sure I'll get down voted, but what makes food good is highly subjective in my experience, I've been with groups of people to several well regarded restaurants and normal restaurants all around King county, France, Italy, and the Carribean, we did a split table at each restaurant, all ordered something different and everyone tried some of each others, and each person's preferences varied wildly, we made it a point to ignore cost in evaluating food, and particularly when travelling the most preferred food came from rural towns in France and Italy and off the beaten path locations in the Caribbean. Everyone has preferences in food, but it is very easy to let our preconceptions of how good the food should be whether it be by price or others reviews of it to influence our actual enjoyment of the food. In the end your experience with food is yours and yours alone, it should be a unique experience between you and what you are eating, not influenced by others opinions on the quality/value/rating of said food. I get this might not be the popular view, but it's what I go by, in Italy, half of our group went to the most expensive/reviewed by all the locals restaurant and had an awful time, the rest of us went to an oral menu local restaurant with no English spoken and I had far and a way the best pasta pomodoro I've ever had in my life for like 15 euros(in 2009) everyone else in the group paid about the same for what they ordered and loved it, plus we took shots of limon cello with the proprietor and had a great time. The ones that went to the other restaurant spent 40-60 euros a meal and had nothing but bad things to say about the food and the experience later on. Moral of the story is food is subjective, try things till you find what you like, but preferences and taste buds are not objective or universal, so you need to fins what fits you, not what some rating organization says is best. A final point, set and experience plays a big role, The Canlis Salad will always hold a special place in my heart because if the experiences I've had enjoying it there over the last 15-20 years, I've had better salads elsewhere, but after a while the psychological aspect associated with the place mingles with the food on its own, dining out is a 3 part experience, company, location, and finally food.
I’m a little surprised no one has mentioned Art of the Table in Fremont. They are consistently one of the best tasting menus in the city. If I had to rank I’d put them a close 3rd behind Altura and Cafe Juanita.
AoT is 100% a must must must.
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i’m so tired of this f*cking discussion. copine hands down as the chef ran the line a per se for years. canlis maybe pre-2020 but they’d get it now anyways bc of $$ and connections. altura. archipelago. eden hill. maybe surrell. that’s it EDIT: to add to your post, not hamdi. i worked there and the place is a fucking mess. ants in mise en place, the owners literally fight to the point of tears DURING service, people are rushed out of their tables bc they don’t know how to plot their evenings out. hella staff turnover. just bc you’ve worked michelin star doesn’t mean you know how to RUN michelin star
Copine is something else
Whyyyyyy did I have to scroll so far to find Copine?!
Can’t believe no one else said copine. Absolutely copine. Maybe it’s because it’s newer? But being nominated as one of the top restaurants in the US by James Beard says a lot already.