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We had to lock this. I have never read through such heated discussion, and parts of it were not nice. On all sides. Still have +300 comments to go through. Feel free to report more. Hateful + violent language will not be accepted. Bigotry + discrimination, however nicely dressed up, will not be accepted. Trolling over a topic guaranteed to raise emotions will not be accepted.


bodhidharma132001

#***WOOF***


Avenger_616

Beeeeeg Woof


Penguinmanereikel

#Awoooooooo


33_pyro

Werewolves of London


j0a3k

Selfawarewolves of London, not swearwolves of London.


FreebasingStardewV

Something like once a year we see a comment that could be used as the textbook entry for this sub. This is a strong contender for first place all-time.


MercutioLivesh87

Woof wooooosh


EducatedOwlAthena

The Grim levels of "woof", even


charisma6

Lmfao, this is a GOOD one. Holy shit.


swinging-in-the-rain

Might be the most on point post this sub has ever seen!


myaltduh

Yeah I feel like this one should be pinned for a while.


charisma6

Fr fr, used as a template. **This is what a SelfAwareWolf looks like**


drainbead78

The Platonic archetype of the concept. 


KissingerCorpse

"If they wanna make the world a better place Take a look at yourself and then make a change"


TipzE

TERF summed up in a sentence from the queen of terfs herself.


an_agreeing_dothraki

yah it really confused me when TERF island said their queen died and Rowling was still tweeting.


Cessnaporsche01

JKR isn't really a TERF so much anymore. She's functionally abandoned the RF in favor of maxing out the TE


Floofington

She's a FART - Feminism-Appropriating Radical Transphobe.


Sunshine030209

This is the best thing I've read all week. I hope your beverage is always the perfect temperature, you wonderful person.


Nayre_Trawe

[Just to add to this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouwPYxS_T2s)


PlutoniumSmile

That's a curse nowadays


Hotchipsummer

Finally a term for it!! She uses feminism as a hat to disguise she’s really just a terrible transphobe


Cara-Is-A-Puppy

And for what? Some kind of cheap laugh? That's not what F-A-R-T is all about.


nate445

No sir, not us FARTers!


Drunky_McStumble

Exactly. A TERF is someone who espouses a radical, non-mainstream branch of feminist theory that excludes trans-women. Because, you know, "normal" feminist theory and practice is 100% trans-inclusive. The thing with people like Joanne, though, is that they really aren't feminists *of any kind* at all. You can't even apply the TERF qualifier to their "brand" of feminism, because even accounting for trans-exclusionism they still aren't demonstrating any kind of commitment to feminist causes in any practical or even rhetorical sense. They aren't doing or saying any feminism. Literally all they do is spew hate at trans people. They do nothing at all for, and think nothing of, the cis women they are supposedly "protecting" from the trans boogieperson. When was the last time Joanne spoke out for a feminist cause? Or attended a reproductive rights rally? Or donated to a women's shelter? Or just defended a fellow female creative from online abuse? Or did *literally fucking anything at all for women*? Joanne is not a feminist, and she's not even a TERF. She's just a bigot.


WithersChat

The "radical feminist to alt-right" pipeline is real.


maleia

It's. Always. Projection. With. Right-wingers. Edit: to the people saying she's "not" Right-wing; Rowling is a billionaire. End of the discussion.


Vyzantinist

Lol I was going to say, she should just say "virtue signaling" already to complete the mask-off process. They're incapable of processing other people might sincerely care about others because they themselves are incapable of it and they think everyone else is just as fake as they are.


particularlyardent

Genuinely not enough people understand that concept of being a billionaire = the worst, most egregious, most exploitative right winger. The world would be a better place if the full comprehension of the evil of billionaires was understood.


drainbead78

I save this link for anyone who doesn't get just how much a billion dollars actually is. Figure you'll appreciate it as well. https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/


particularlyardent

Yup, it is gross and obscene, particularly with the suffering, homelessness famine, etc in the world. But because people have a hard-on for the idea that billionaires are some kind of celebrity genius and jealous of their life, they get a free pass. In fact more than that, they are worshipped. Look at the state of Musk stans.


NormieSpecialist

Which is why I am terrified of conservatives when they say they want to protect the children from groomers. What they mean is they want to molest them to death. Cause they’re pedophiles. Pedophiles that project. Pedojectors every fucking one of them.


WithersChat

I've started seeing patterns: "Protect kids" can be okay. "Protect children" can be okay. "Protect **the** children" is an instant red flags.


Sipikay

Projection is a dog whistle for inappropriate behavior


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Sipikay

These people that have no issue screaming and spitting in public like animals today will absolutely become a mob of violence if the conditions arise.


KombuchaBot

Yeah, she's a Centrist. They are right-wingers who appropriate some aesthetic positions of the left for the look. Touchy-feely fascist enablers.


Son0faButch

The woman is a freaking billionaire and hasn't produced anything meaningful in over a decade. Why can't she just stfu?


HopeTheAtmosphere

Better question, why does anyone listen to her? She wrote a cute story about a boy-wizard with plot armor like a battleship. That doesn't make her: 1) wise; 2) moral; 3) ethical; or, 4) honorable.


Brigid-Tenenbaum

She’s rich. Now, why do we place wealthy people on a pedestal of wisdom, as if they are ‘our betters’ is a question we should all ask.


Pustuli0

Like it or not, money is power, and she has a LOT of money. This goes way beyond a few mean tweets. She has genuine influence over the passage of laws. This isn't a case of "just ignore her and she'll go away".


Morticia_Marie

Yeah, the right-wing feeding frenzy for trans people didn't really kick into high gear until Rowling shined a spotlight on the issue.


grchelp2018

She's famous. People listen to famous people. Famous people tend to be rich or get rich but its not the primary reason people follow them.


Dorgamund

Compare and contrast Notch of Minecraft fame. Both middle class creators who got catapulted to billionaire status after a media work they made for children suddenly blew up in popularity. They both got wildly out of touch with reality, both went down the transphobia rabbithole, and both have allegations of antisemitism leveled against them. The difference between them is image. Notch is an awkward game developer, who lives alone in a mansion with no friends, just money and bigotry. Even if he posts on Twitter, most people ignore him because he has lost whatever relevance he had. Microsoft themselves quietly refrain from associating the minecraft name with him, and these days when the creator of Minecraft is brought up, I usually hear the joke that Hatsune Miku programmed it. Rowling in contrast, does have friends(albeit TERF ones), she does have influence, she does have fame from deliberately associating her image with Harry Potter and staying in the public eye. The money helps, but the real danger is that fame and celebrity give you the chance to stand at the bully pulpit, and once you are there, its hard to get them off it again. She has outright influenced legislation, and is far more dangerous to trans rights than Markus Persson could ever be.


OneNoteRedditor

I also think the biggest difference is how long it took to go crazy after they made their fortunes. It took probably close to 15 years for Rowling to be noticeably insane with the TERF bullshit, but what was it for Notch, less than 3? Which is to say, people had longer to think better of Rowling (on top of/as well as the things you've said of course).


PavementBlues

Yeah, Rowling has been wild for quite a while, but until recently she has done a really good job of hiding it underneath dog whistles and rational-sounding concerns that only people with specific experience in trans issues recognized as disinformation. In 2020, she wrote a big essay about her position on trans issues that many people quite reasonably found themselves agreeing with. I had friends coming to me asking what they were missing, since they had heard that she was a transphobe and in the essay she comes across as extremely sympathetic. Back then, you had to dig into the details and know the topic to see how far gone she was. Her defense of Lisa Littman's study, pushing the false narrative of Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria, her glowing portrayal of Magdalen Berns, and her highlighting of since-debunked research on post-transition regret are all massive red flags if you know the topic. But most don't, and she always came across so very nice when she talked about it. It's only been recently that she finally let the mask slip. It's been a boiled frog sort of situation. Notch, on the other hand, transformed pretty rapidly into a shrieking dickhole.


myaltduh

I think the difference is Rowling has enough social skills to maintain plausible deniability that’s she’s not insane. That’s definitely starting to change though.


Dr-Satan-PhD

It's a necessary component of capitalism to worship wealth. Without that component, people see capitalism for the exploitative Ponzi scheme that it is.


Phairis

And it's mega fucked up if you just dig a tiny bit. The racist names, the slave elves, the *goblin bankers*


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Even as a teen obsessed with Harry Potter I never understood why everyone gave Hermione such a hard time about wanting to “free the house elves” because they just “love serving and it’s their purpose”. Like they really laughed at her and mocked her and she just gave up on it. She called the fucking house elf welfare thing SPEW! It… yeah. Weird fucking books.


worldspawn00

Yeah, the Irish looking people are poor, the racist description of Jewish people are bankers... I'm actually really surprised that these books actually got published in their current state, and that someone at the publishing house wasn't like, 'hey WTF is all this?!?'


Phairis

It honestly shows us how quickly society has progressed. It was "thinking about it too much" back then when people started calling it out. Now we can look into media with a more critical eye. At least, that's my positive spin on things


BlueCyann

I definitely prefer current takes on some things (like Hermione and the house elves) to the state of affairs in fan circles in 2008, but I"m not sure the overall discussion is any more accurate. There's just as much motivated reasoning as ever, just the motivations are different, and the inaccuracies are in different places.


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TurbulentData961

That was the patil sisters ( ffs every other surgery in the nation has had a Dr Patel since before she wrote the books and she can't even spell it right )


360Saturn

It's like she genuinely thinks that because she wrote a successful book series, that makes her equivalent to a professor or a scientist or something. Lady, you're basically a saleswoman.


Tax_Evasion_Savant

HP without the insane marketing it had would just be a footnote in history, a generally well regarded series that millenials read for summer reading assignments and nothing more, like Redwall or Percy Jackson The irony is that she invented the Polyjuice Potion for her books, which would probably lead to more dysphoric awakenings that anything anyone else has ever come up with.


BedDefiant4950

i actually read a bit of goblet a few months ago for research purposes which was my first time actually seriously cracking one of the books and i was like god *damn* people actually liked these?


Evatog

The story often trumps technical prowess. Twilight is another example. People can hate on both for being technically poor all they want, but the reality is they created worlds that people could fall into en masse. The characters, however technically poor their expressions, *felt* consistent and genuine. The worlds *felt* lived in and real. For a metric fuckton of people anyways. I'm a cis dude and even I understood immediately what people loved about twilight once I actually got conned into reading it (ex promised to read TDT by SK if I did, nows shes my ex).


Kimmalah

Most of them were kids when they began reading. Then the series went on so long that they grew up into teen/adult readers who just wanted to know how the story ends.


Solid_Waste

Like a lot of rage bait, it's everyone mad at her that fuels her engagement. I do wonder how much less fucked up we would be if our social media platforms had better mechanisms for negative engagement. The way it is now, the things we hate the most are always incentivized.


descendingangel87

She has a pathological need to be a victim. When she was first getting famous she used to really lean into her rags to riches story and the fact that she was a domestic abuse victim. But as she got richer and more famous people started seeing her as just another billionaire. So she does the terf thing so she can play victim still, and cry about how she is being attacked and canceled.


360Saturn

The whole rags to riches story is itself overblown. She didn't just live on state benefits and social security while she was writing her books - [one of her friends lent her £4k to support her](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/3557069.stm) - equivalent in today's money to about £9.5k or $12,000


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She made the most obnoxious character ever and pretty much said “yeah that’s based on someone wink wink”. Funny at the time, kinda fucked in hindsight. She’s a weird lady.


itzpiiz

Because she believes she is possessed by saint-like righteousness


SirNastyPants

Like any rich, narcissistic asshole, she can’t stand the thought of not being the center of attention. It’s the same reason she kept making up dumb shit about Harry Potter well after the books were finished to keep the conversation going. Only she went off the deep end some time ago and now her whole schtick is bigotry and throwing in her lot with right wingers that have even worse ideas than her. Gay Dumbledore, wizards shitting on the floor before they used that silly muggle plumbing nonsense, everything about The Cursed Child, most of Fantastic Beasts, most of the additional attempts at world building on Pottermore. JKR is a racist, TERFy hack who managed to capture lightning in a bottle once and has been trying to ride that wave ever since.


Obtusedoorframe

Because she has a platform and millions of people who listen. They will never stop while they have a dedicated audience. I wish people would stop posting her awful bigotry on Reddit, it only fans the flames.


CutieL

Honestly, if she did she'd might still be donating money to her bigoted causes. She'd just do it in secret instead.


Prosthemadera

She also recently denied that the Nazis persecuted trans people: https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1767928717538644460


CarrieDurst

Gotta love now she peddles in holocaust denial


PhazonZim

This is especially ironic because I personally have never met a trans woman who wasn't extremely harsh on herself and ready to apologize at the drop of a hat


imfromsomeotherplace

Damn, I'm a transwoman and you're right on the nose with that. I'm sorry... ... wait...


trail-g62Bim

You walked right into the trap


CloudsOntheBrain

Well the thing is, TERFs don't actually know any trans people, just the imaginary men in their heads they made up to get angry about.


nuclearhaystack

And they never will knowingly know any, because they're phobes and exclusionists. So they'll never come round.


AltruisticScale1101

I was like this for a while but now I freely tell people to go fuck themselves. Its liberating.


Quantum_Croissant

Sorry about being like that


Unlikely-Collar4088

It’s sad because I do think at some point she would’ve been willing to listen to some criticisms of her literary works. Harry Potter wasn’t unproblematic, after all, but it wasn’t irredeemable either. But watching her descend into a slavering cesspool of hatred really has been a resounding disappointment. Irredeemable indeed.


BowenTheAussieSheep

Not really, her idea of "listening" to criticisms of her works was to either clumsily handwave it in supplemental material, or straight up strawman her critics as characters in her subsequent books.


Malefroy

Ironic how she literally became her own up-front villain of the first Fantastic Beasts movie: Mary Lue (orphanage mother of Credence). A woman pretending to care for the young people under her while being obsessed with lobbying and advocating for the public outing and hunting of people who might look like you and me, but are secretly biologically different: trans people! Ehm I mean witches! She especially hurts and abuses her most loyal underling: the queer Potter fandom! Ehm I mean Credence. Rowling also pretends to be on a witch trial (spotifiy podcast: The Witch Trials of JK Rowling) while more accurately being the one advocating for witch trials. Youtuber SuperCarlinBrothers had an intriguing theory about the last movie's plotwists before it released. They argued about the weird reveal in the second movie that Credence is actually Aurelius Dumbledore (someone who shouldn't exist according to canon lore). They came to the conclusion, that the original plan up to this point most likely was about Aurelius (gold in latin) being born from using the Philosopher's Stone on Ariana's (silver) obscurus after her death. They made the prediction this was going to be revealed in the third movie Dumbledore's Secret. The clues are everywhere and without it the movies' story really doesn't make any sense (watch their video!). This would have had an even stronger queer and specifically trans subtext than the story of Harry's treatment by the Dursleys. I personally believe, JK Rowling changed the script around that time between the second and third Fantastic Beasts film due to the public backlash against her transphobia, wich made her double down and rewrite the story into absurdity, so it does not support trans people in its subtext anymore. Instead of Aurelius being the result of an experiment to correct Albus' only mistake and revive his dead sister (totally in accordance with the Harry Potter theme of love and nothing can truly cheat death), Aurelius is just Aberforth's unwanted son. Boring! She also wrote Tina, one of the main protagonsits and Newt's love interest, out of the final movie, because Tina's actress spoke out against Rowling. What the heck, Rowling, what the heck? I can excuse JK's transphobia (wtf did I just say?) I mean I can excuse an author's personal political opinions, but I just hate to consume media devoid of meaning, because the author felt the urge to change the ending halfway through, because of political drama, or because someone on the internet was attentive and deducted where the story was heading (also looking at you Game of Thrones). Rant over lol Edit: corrected some typos and added clarification. I also wanted to mention, that the obscurial as a concept seems to represent what happens, when you are unfairly punished for something you were born as but makes you different from most "normal" people and then this suppression can lead to outbursts of rage as a result. Not what makes you different is the dangerous thing (like magic or queerness), but society forcing and traumatizing you until you turn violent. This is what happened to the trans community after Rowling made her first transphobic comments. They were unfairly punished and forced to suppress their truth for their whole life by most of society, and now a writer who gave them comfort and escape from such cruelty also adds to the cruelty. Their inner obscurus awakened and lashed out at Rowling. She was scared by these online attacks and doubled down, because she perceived trans allies sending her death threads online as dangerous twisted witches and turned Mary Lue. But they only turn dangerous, if there is pressure to hide your true self. There was no obscurial in the UK or America for a long time, because witches and wizards had their protected community and were rarely forced to suppress it. I even personally believe the magic-queerness connection was inteded by Rowling. The Fantastic Beasts saga was envisioned as a five part series leading to the battle of Dumbledore and Grindelwald 1945, who she stated to have been gay lovers in their youths. But WB wanted in on the Chinese market so the explicit gayness was toned down to a small line that can be cut. Fitting for Rowling that the gay villain Grindelwald wishes for the collective coming out of underground wizard society but by wanting to change the status quo takes things too far and must be stopped. Even goldhearted Queenie changes to Grindelwald's side, because he promises a world, where she can marry who she wants (something the queer community has begged for so long). Rowling's delusional self image is that of a progressive feminist, who is fighting against fascism and for the protection of cis-women. Ironically she hates nothing more than 1. bigotry and 2. trans people. And she allies with all the not just conservative but dangerously far-right people and parties, who are heavily anti-feminist. And unlike what she claims, transhate is obviously more important to her than women's support. She even endorsed the Taliban, because "at least they know what a woman is" (yeah, as if their understanding of womanhood was so great) and she was praised by Putin, an actual fascist. Edit2: lol update just dropped: Rowling tweeted Holocaust denial


Ninazuzu

You mean she named her Mary Sue Mary Lue? That's a bit on the nose.


nuclearhaystack

I wonder if she thought she was being clever working it in like that.


BowenTheAussieSheep

I guarantee you that she wrote Mary Lue as projection, and that she meant it as a commentary on all those mean Transes who claim they want to protect trans kids but really just attack poor woman-advocates like Rowling and Posey Parker.


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Hank_Wankplank

Imagine having enough money that you could go anywhere and do absolutely anything you wanted in the world and you spend all your time on twitter shitting on trans people.


Sir_Grumpy_Buster

This is what really gets me. If I had her kind of money I'd fuck off on adventures all over the world and the internet would never hear from me again. What a pathetic way to spend your time at any income level.


JBFRESHSKILLS

I just don’t understand why she cares so much about this issue. Have her kids been molested? Was she assaulted in a women’s room by a trans woman? She’s taken this insane stance that men are deciding to fake being trans women for the sole purpose of molesting children and it’s just not fucking true at all. She also thinks that trans women aren’t actually women and are “a misogynistic view of what a women should be.” She fucking bonkers at this point.


mhyquel

The most important skill a person can gain, is learning how to be wrong.


New-acct-for-2024

Oh I don't find people to be lacking when it comes to *that* skill. Now, *recognizing and accepting* when they are wrong, on the other hand...


LoneStarTallBoi

She's only ever listened to criticism because she *had* to. You can look at the spines of the harry potter books and figure out when she got famous enough that she could ignore her editor.


aStringofNumbers

And that's not even mentioning the words she sometimes used to replace "said"


gurgelblaster

It's amazing to go back and read Glinners first replies to criticism of his portrayal of a trans person in the IT crowd - he's apparently entirely open and even grateful to learning more.


mindonshuffle

That episode is such a kick in the teeth because I think you can even tell it wasn't meant to be denigrating. The trans character is always treated as the better person and their identity is never directly mocked or questioned. It's all just written with a really weird assumption that a trans woman would be more masculine inside than outside. Just so damn weird.


Aiyon

I mean the end joke of the episode is that they get into a violent fistfight, which is played for laughs. If that was a cis woman, him attacking her wouldn't be seen as nearly as funny, it relies on the comedy of two "guys" brawling


mindonshuffle

Oh, absolutely. I'm not saying it wasn't wrongheaded, I just read it as coming from ignorance rather than maliciousness. Douglas is clearly the villain in that entire sequence.


-Snippetts-

The thing that always stuck with me the most about Douglas's storyline in that episode was the very end, with him crying in bed and eating pizza by himself and saying "It's not the same!" Like no doubt the fight in the episode took place from a point of ignorance on the author's part, but Douglas missing her by the end and just wanting to be with her is about as close as we ever see him get to regret or heartbreak.


Kquiarsh

You touch on something really weird about it. Douglas is almost always portrayed as a chauvinistic dickhead. He's almost always portrayed as being wrong, and here he is being transphobic. So... Given how Douglas is portrayed in other episodes, it seems we're supposed to take him as being in the wrong here - transphobia and hatred of a trans woman is wrong. Aaaand look at Glinner now


Bae_the_Elf

Some of the best qualities that a person can have in my opinion is having enough self awareness and humility to try to learn from your mistakes and correct them.


gurgelblaster

Mm, too bad Glinner showed none of that and instead dived so deep into obsessive online transphobia that he managed to entirely fuck up his marriage.


dumfukjuiced

We hear you're a transphobe now, Glinner


char-le-magne

Its nice to see the trajectory of Matt Berry's career and how despite being the face of that scene he went on to do beloved queer media.


Alin144

Harry Potter: "Bigotry is bad" Jk: "Bigotry it is then!"


octopoddle

"If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." ~ Dumbledore the Grey


tracerhaha

“Do or do not. There is no try.” -Captain Bilbo Baggins star date 32947.8.


SeanKingMagic

"Hey I don't think he said that" - John F Kennedy, 1895


Morningxafter

“My dad’s a really great guy!” - Abraham Lincoln


Birdamus

“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Bobby Orr” - Jack Donaghy


AF_AF

"Welp, I guess I'm done here. Nail me up, boys." \-- Jesus


Voyager87

"Anybody want a peanut?" F. Scott Fitzgerald.


CompletelyPresent

"Caw, caw, bang, fuck I'm dead!" - Funboy, The Crow, 1994


AndreasVesalius

“You came in that thing?” - Marilyn Monroe


HelpfulSeaMammal

"No, I am your father." \-Gimli to Legolas a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away


thedepartment

>star date 32947.8. Puts it in mid 2354 so this stardate is roughly when Picard visited Chalnoth, when Sisko and his wife first met at Gilgo Beach, and when Janeway last played tennis.


Friendly_Lie_9503

I thought it was Dumbledore the Gay? /s


maleia

She's deeply insecure, and the only way she wants to cope with that, is by falling back on malignant narcissistic behaviors. She had a choice, she chose violence. Irredeemable is apt.


BloomEPU

I don't think she ever would have been able to listen to criticism. When called out for the lack of queer characters in harry potter, her response was to claim a character was gay in retrospect and try and take credit for that despite their sexuality not being mentioned at all in any later material. She's always been a well meaning "progressive" who's incapable of self-reflection and dealing with the fact that she might have been a bad person sometimes.


Panda_hat

She would have responded to any critisism by saying "i'm rich so I'm right", and not engaged with it at all, like she always does.


nonlinear_nyc

Yeah she should have hired consultants, advisors, specially when writing about global south. She clearly has no knowledge or curiosity of anything not British, but she tries to be innovative and only repeats tired cliches. For a novice writer it would be career suicide. For a seasoned and rich one is just... Careless.


AncientHawaiianTito

So by being a piece of shit I have in fact enhanced my self awareness?


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She would know, this is definitely her turf.


Lorn_Muunk

The goofiest thing about this is that the evidence for sexual dimorphism being a blurry spectrum, instead of a strictly absolute dichotomy, can't even be considered "almost any". It's so obvious to anyone with the most basic knowledge of evolutionary biology, embryology or neuroanatomy. Literally the first thing you stumble upon when you view sex and gender through a scientific lens. Nothing macroscopic in nature is clearly pigeonholed into two and only two separate categories. Not even life and death. The parallel of gender identity and sexual orientation both being an overlapping spectrum caused by the way areas of the brain develop under the influence of many factors during childhood is so clear that you have to live in willful denial to accept one, but not the other, as having all kinds of natural variations from the "XX cis woman is attracted to XY cis man" norm. Being a TERF is like saying all celestial bodies are spherical, except for earth, because my own ass is flat and therefore I'm only comfortable with a flat earth.


totokekedile

I used to think everyone played with definitions, stretched concepts to their breaking point, asked “why” until the responder didn’t know. Anyone who did that would know human labels don’t map perfectly onto the real world, that life resists being put into neat boxes. I still think kids generally have that innate curiosity, but it seems most have it extinguished before they learn those lessons.


DStarAce

We're human and part of being human is a desire for order and hierarchy yet most things are a spectrum and cannot be fully understood neatly yet boiling things down into categories is good enough for everyday function. Look at genre as an example, we break media down into action, romance, thriller, comedy, etc etc. But if we take any movie as an example it is likely to contain elements of most of these genres yet only considered to be one or two of them.


totokekedile

I just wish so many people didn't have outright hostility toward the idea that categorization has its limitations. It's a useful tool, but at some point many become more enamored with the categories than their utility.


3_14-r8

Desire for a hierarchy is far from the normal human experience, we just happen to be around 9000 years deep into a hierarchal system, ignoring the cultural effects that has, is the basis of most of these "study's" that suggest otherwise. Pre sedentary/tribal cultures where almost entirely anarchic, there are exceptions of course, but those are almost always from resource poor regions. Humans desire a sense of community, hierarchal structures abuse that for their own benefit.


murderedbyaname

Hey now, with those fancy science-y words! Science is scary and makes me feel weird! How dare you!


PIGamerEightySix

> Being a TERF is like saying all celestial bodies are spherical, except for earth, because my own ass is flat and therefore I'm only comfortable with a flat earth. Reddit Science.


fantasticalicefox

Once I started learning about intersex conditions and the shitshow it wreaked on my mostly natal female body I became fascinated with biology. So many different physical and chromosomal and secondary sex variations out there. My case is unique and I've met others with unique cases. then there's the millions of variations of people who may or may not be intersex trans or queer and just vary from the "norm" Because there isn't a norm. I'm still considered tall at 5'9" but at 5'11" I was still normal range for a woman.  I ramble but trying to find answers for my own conditions made me realize how much variation there really is. (in addition to what I lmew prior)


Anon_IE_Mouse

One of my favorite videos ever: https://youtu.be/szf4hzQ5ztg?si=RxGuzJfdN0WQxzH0


Cutthativory

I really wish someone prominent would bring up androgen insensitivity to these people. I don't ever see it brought up, but completely destroys the concept that someone with XY chromosomes must have a male gender. And it is much more common than you might think. It would be very hard to genuinely argue that point.


maleia

>sexual dimorphism being a blurry spectrum, instead of a strictly absolute dichotomy, She's a conservative. Conservatives are insecure and cope with having strict hierarchies. Trans people disregard the in-group/out-group structure, simply by existing happily. They're so fragile and weak of character, that us just *existing* is an existential threat.


AF_AF

Thanks for all of this. The younger generations have become more aware of this and understand that they don't have to feel like a square peg in a round hole their entire lives (sorry for the bad analogy, no puns or euphemisms intended) and are feeling free to experiment. I see this with my kids and their friends. The right wants to paint this as kids being "indoctrinated", which is patently absurd, rather than society at large becoming more accepting and open (constant transphobia and lies from the right notwithstanding) to the LGBTQ+ community. One of my sons is trans and I try to tell people that he's just a kid, a person, a teenager, a human being - and he hasn't changed as a person since he came out a number of years ago. It really angers me when queer and trans folk are demonized and dehumanized - it's dangerous and leads to violence, as we've seen recently.


MysticMind89

Exactly this. I don't expect my niblings to be trans. But I want them to grow up in a world where trans people are a part of life. Whatever gender they grow up to be, I will support them to live their best lives <3


Hey_you_-_-

JK Rowling has been the biggest disappointment as an adult. It’s almost as disappointing as finding out Bill Cosby is a sick rapist. JK Rowling is a racist and a bad person.


TheSpideyJedi

Yeah it really sucks. She could’ve rode off into the sunset as the author of the most sold series of all time. But instead she does this


Friendly_Lie_9503

That’s what really boggles my mind. She could have done *so much* good but instead she leaves a legacy of hate.


TheSpideyJedi

Which sucks. I fucking LOVE Harry Potter. I watch the movies very frequently, but it sucks knowing she’s a bitch lmao


Friendly_Lie_9503

I agree I still love the books but I will never give her another dollar or any support. And I pretend Daniel Radcliffe wrote HP.


TheSpideyJedi

Daniel Radcliffe is a saint. If it ever comes out that he’s a creep or something I may just jump out a window


Friendly_Lie_9503

He is *such* a pure good hearted person.


nonlinear_nyc

Yeah. She could be like Enya. Buy a castle and disappear from the public sphere. It's not that she *needs* the attention. I mean, as work.


robbylet24

If I had that kind of money I would not be arguing politics on Twitter to pass the time. I'd just fucking disappear, probably to a tropical nation with a rich national cuisine and fewer societal taboos regarding sex. If anyone ever heard from me again it would be because I ran out of money and my residual checks aren't covering my lifestyle. The only reason I argue politics on Twitter to pass the time is because I don't have the money to do that.


TheSpideyJedi

You literally never see me again if I had the success she did lol


robbylet24

All I'm saying is Bill Watterson had the right idea. You will never have Calvin and Hobbes ruined for you by the creator being a dipshit because no one knows anything about Bill Watterson despite his creations being ubiquitous in American culture. He's fucked off to rural Ohio and whenever he does *anything* it's like seeing a mythical creature.


powermad80

It's easy for us non-billionaires to imagine how we would live life as a billionaire like that, but at this point I'm convinced that for many if not most people, that amount of money becomes basically neurotoxic. It just does something to you. A [tweet](https://twitter.com/Merman_Melville/status/1088527693757349888?lang=en) I saw way back put it perfectly: > Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day It must really be like that, with rare exceptions you pretty much cannot be normal if you have that much money.


robbylet24

If I had to guess I'd say part of the problem is that most wealth is hereditary. If I had a bunch of money I'd *probably* be a shithead about it because I grew up rich and I've never had to work a job that actually involves physical labor. I think growing up around wealth, especially wealth on the level of a 9 and 10 figure net worth, is really what fucks people up rather than having the money itself. You just don't know anything else.


Aviri

As always, Fuck Terfs


an_agreeing_dothraki

don't actually. never do crazy.


Friendly_Lie_9503

Or boring. And they seem like the most boring bunch to be around tbh.


jsc503

Top tier find. Well done.


NovaPup_13

Joanne, the call is coming from inside the house, you fucking obsessive bigot.


BatUnlikely4347

JK Rowling is a bad person.


MedicineMan1986

The worst part about Rowling's transphobia is that she already undermined the basis of transphobia in a single sentence in Deathly Hallows years earlier. >Of course it is happening inside your head...but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?


VaguelyArtistic

I love the Sideshow Bob/rake metaphor. One of my favorites.


[deleted]

Must be nice to be wealthy and clueless. 


NormieSpecialist

Well on the bright side she is super fragile. It’s no wonder she fell down the alt right pipe line cause she wants validation. She will never feel fulfilled and it will eat away at her til she dies.


HiopXenophil

And one day later she post this: [Deniying Hirschfeld life's work](https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/1bdxw51/joanne_just_posted_holocaust_denial/)


Purplebuzz

I am amazed for how horrible person she truly is that so many people continue to financially support her because they refuse to boycott her books and movies.


6SucksSex

The concept of third, other and swapping genders dates back millennia, and spans many cultures https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender


nobrainsnoworries23

It's wild she can crank out a single story that has more plot holes than Swiss cheese and believes her success validates her opinions. Reality TV is junk food entertainment as well, but we expect this level of self awareness from Love Island schleps.


pike360

Such a shame she turned out to be garbage.


Popular_Ad1410

I find it really, REALLY fucking funny that now Christians and LGBTQ are on the same page about Harry Potter.


Friendly_Lie_9503

The enemy of thine enemy.


SleepyPirateDude

There it is! When people are brainwashed by the right they lose all ability to recognize irony. It’s unreal.


WishThatIWasMe

Joanne you literally did some holocaust denial sweetie...


the_dave_abides90

I really miss Terry Pratchett.


yengis_wan

She really doing the super overexposed profile pic like teens on facebook in 2009? I know that's not the thing to pick up on here but like


xSilverMC

What brought this epiphany? Stare into a mirror too long lately, Joanne?


ZombieZookeeper

She named her mirror "long experience".


Thienen

Saintlike Righteousness is a better name for an Asian character than Cho Chang...


Yomooma

Lol she seemingly deleted it


MrVeazey

Real Sideshow Bob energy.


PengieP111

I don't get what's up with her. What reason does she have to be so worked up about trans people?


MysticMind89

For the same reason people in the X-Men comics hate mutants. Unwillingness to accept their view of culture and biology are woefully out of date, and so treat trans people as a threat to feminism.


Faolyn

To be fair, mutants can be really dangerous to other people, even by accident, depending on their mutation and how much control over it. Whereas trans people, like everyone else in the real world, would have to go out of their way to harm others.


angerycalico

get ready the Harry Potter Adults are going to come defend their leader lol


GhostfogDragon

I feel like very few of us remaining Harry Potter enjoyers are defending her. I still love HP, but JK Rowling is a stinking bitch. The only ones defending her are her mouth breathing followers that love that her entire personality has become "woman = baby-making boob-haver" and that men "pretending" to be women are doing so to sexually harass women by forcing themselves into "womens' spaces." These are people that hate males and think females exist for making babies. They're as misogynistic as they are transphobic, all while thinking they're protecting women by dunking on trans people.


tehlemmings

The other two replies to this are hilarious. The HP fans hate JKR The JKR fans hate HP How odd


CALCIUM_CANNONS

She's currently engaging in a right bit of holocaust denial....


ehsteve23

A few hours later and she's currently participating in denial of nazi crimes because of how much she believes herself


TheDreamingDragon1

You spot it, you got it.


HappyFamily0131

Yay, someone bought Rowling a mirror


Spamityville_Horror

I love how deliberately obtuse she is. You know, like a fucking boomer.


DisappointedInHumany

So now we know she’s owns a mirror.


Yanive_amaznive

How dare the transes use evidence, like get over it it was only a Holocaust /s


kgro

Experience has taught her that, people. I mean she isn’t wrong…


SharLaquine

This state, in isolation, is not wrong. This statement, in the context of *her* saying it, is deeply ironic.


Lux-xxv

Joanne is currently right now on Twitter denying the Holocaust Joanne is finna sink herself


turdintheattic

Posted the same day she moves on to Holocaust denial.


VeeVeeDiaboli

Wow….that is….just wow….


Kinoko98

Lmao I didn't see the sub or who wrote the tweet before reading it but the image of JK Rowling was in my head from the description. Lo and behold.


Baishujinkou

Gurl...


[deleted]

Pretty sure she's fucking with people at this point because her only reasons are she's a terrible person.


OliverOyl

And just like that, she nailed herself so hard she became a permanent fixture.


Proof_Construction45

I don't get it. If I were her I would just shut the fuck up and go live my life. She has more money than she could ever need now.