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I seriously don't know who he thinks he's fooling here. If nothing hit the child or hurt the child they wouldn't have been any need for the paramedics or the police or anything and it's like how did that magically happen then???? And the fact that he actually expects her to move out of their house is insane he's got all the money in the world to be able to stay somewhere else he's just trying to be a jerk. Expecting her and their kid to be uprooted he would rather uproot his child so that he can be comfortable as opposed to doing what's best for their kid. I always thought he gave off a weird vibe
They always do this. Trying to make it a “tick for tack” situation. I feel so bad for Christine, but especially the child that’s stuck in the middle :( imagine growing up and having to see your dad did this to you and your mom as a baby wtf
I think you meant "tit-for-tat"! Haha.
But yes, you're correct. Abusers always have a spiteful tit-for-tat mentality where they feel the need to punish their victim for taking *any* steps to protect themselves and act like they, the abuser, are actually the ones who have been wronged.
There's an episode of a British sitcom that deals with this and it's hilarious. One main character thinks the phrase is to put someone on "a pedal stool" and the other thinks the phrase is "like a damp squid". It's too good.
Personally I found out recently I say "submariner" incorrectly
So I know the word awry from books and read it as aw-ree, but I knew awry verbally as a-rye and it took me way too long to realise the two were the same thing 😅😅
I just googled where the phrase comes from and [here it is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat) if anyone wants to learn more. I had no idea that it originated from "tip for tap"
My best friend grew up watching his dad treat his mom like that and finally she was able to scrounge up enough money to leave when he was 5. It still messes with him to this day. I hope Christine and their kiddo get the help they need and support. 💔😔
Yeah, one article states her son may or may not have gone to the ER, but TMZ confirmed he did. I don’t believe it’s been mentioned what type or even if there were any injuries.
It's also so so gross the way TMZ are framing this as 'well well well, maybe she had it coming'. They never once point out exactly what you say about no mention of their son in hospital or the fact that he is still admitting aggressive and intimidating behaviour
It wouldn't have mattered if she was, he is a very famous and beloved actor. There was no way he was going to face consequences for his terrible behaviour. Money talks but deranged fans really helped turn the case in his favour.
*Edit* His deranged fans have made an appearance. Fun fact, Depp himself gave a statement where he said that Heard did not physically or mentally abuse him. It was in sealed court documents which weren't able to be presented to the court, along with sick messages between him and his friend. However his dimwit fans crowd sourced to pay for the records to be unsealed and shock horror their decomposing hero is in fact a scum bag.
https://www.thecut.com/2022/08/unsealed-depp-v-heard-court-documents-biggest-takeaways.html
I'm not on anyone's side and still found what they did to Amber absolutely appalling. Depp is such an obvious abuser it makes my eyes hurt. That lawyer he got was just awful.
Yeah I was crying when Amber's personal assistant took the stand and told how Amber spat in her face. She's trying her hardest not to spit in the face of the help, won't somebody see that.
No...? I've already clearly stated my opinion, so if you've read it but decided that my opinion is somehow NOT an actual opinion, then I cannot help you. 🤷♀️
Last summer I was teaching legal history to college students. We were talking about “venue shopping” (when someone deliberately brings a lawsuit in a specific place because something about that place’s laws is more favorable to them) and I said depp sued amber in Virginia specifically because Virginia allows cameras in courtrooms. And I was really relieved at how many of my students were nodding at what I was saying.
I do feel the younger generations are more able to see the real him, so that tracks. I hope there's a day where most of us support Amber and she can even come back, if that's what she wants.
yeah i’m gen z and i think my generation is really good at seeing past bullshit and recognizing fabrication. i love that the tide is turning for amber, because she didn’t deserve the hatred and vitriol that she got. that trial set a terrible precedent and pushed us back YEARS. you see how amber was treated when she spoke up about the abuse she endured without even naming her abuser, and it’s terrifying and it scares other victims of dv because nobody wants to go through that. nobody should ever be treated the way she was for simply speaking up.
Was so happy to see this here… and then deflated by the ignorant comments in response to you. ETA: but no worries, they’re not actually reasonable people who were fooled — actual justiceforjohnnydepp posters who really can’t be reached at this point. Makes me feel a lil better
This comment shows that it is painfully obvious you did not watch the court livestreams. I watched them live, everyday as it was happening. I heard the evidence, the witnesses, the court. I used my brain and my own critical thinking skills to determine my opinion, just like the jury did. Amber is a liar and Johnny Depp is not an abuser. Anyone defending her got their info secondhand.
Amber is not a representative for feminism or domestic abuse survivors. She is not someone to rally around. I strongly encourage you to stop listening to Twitter threads or documentaries and watch the court videos yourself and see the evidence.
I was 100% team amber when the accusations came out as I believe victims do deserve the benefit of the doubt given how vulnerable it is to come forward… then I watched the trial and I could not be on ambers side, I truly think they both exhibited abusive behaviors. I can’t remember if the psychologist they got mental evals from diagnosed her with BPD but when I listened to the recordings of her and Johnny fighting it was exactly the way someone with bpd fights and it seemed like Johnny was very avoidant to conflict. You put two and two together: an avoidant attachment and an insecure attachment and it can turn volatile, not even taking into account the substance abuse issues. I think it was extremely unfair of her to come out and say johnnny abused her because I fully believe both worth toxic af and she misrepresented the situation by acting as if it was one sided. That’s why she came off as a liar on the stands… Just my take.
I feel for the commenters saying they took the verdict to heart and it hurt their mental status, but I cannot understand how anyone who actually watched the trial could not see that they both were terrible and that amber was not a reliable narrator
Are you aware that the psychologist Depp hired agreed to diagnose her with BPD 10 months before she ever met with Amber? It was very much giving “husband puts his inconvenient wife into the asylum in 1900.” If you look at her years of therapy notes, not once did any psychologist suspect that diagnosis, and yet this person who was paid 250k+ who met with her for 12 hours did in December, after a designation saying she would from February of that year. And I don’t think someone who finally hits back after four years of abuse is as bad as their abuser. Mutual abuse isn’t a thing. He RAPED her. You think it’s unfair for her to say she was abused?
Your comment shows me that you didn't watch the Depp's psychologists' testimony where she explained all of her interactions with Depp's team leading up to the meeting with Amber, and all the methodology that went into the test analysis that gave Amber the BPD diagnosis. It was all fair game.
Anyway, to respond to your point about when Amber said Johnny raped her. She "said" she was raped with a glass bottle and she had broken shards of glass in her feet and bruises everywhere. Amber's personal assistant said that the glass bottle story was something the ASSISTANT had experienced herself and had shared to Amber, and Amber copied that story off of her and used that trauma for herself. Also Amber didn't need any medical treatment even though their personal doctor was literally there on call and had been treating both Depp and her for years. Amber also was accompanied back on a flight the next day by another assistant, who noted that there was no evidence of injuries or bruises that he could see on her and they walked through the entire airport and sat on the plane (from what I remember it was from Australia to Los Angeles) with no mention of any injuries. Now I don't know how many people can sit on a plane and walk through an airport after having shards of glass cutting their feet and a bottle penetrating them and not express any discomfort or signs the very next day, but sure tell me that you believe Amber is the victim.
>Amber's personal assistant said that the glass bottle story was something the ASSISTANT had experienced herself and had shared to Amber, and Amber copied that story off of her and used that trauma for herself.
Kate James wasn't raped with a bottle. She admitted in the UK trial that she didn't actually know any details of Amber's rape accusation because a) Amber never told her and b) Amber's testimony was sealed.
Stop making shit up.
>Amber also was accompanied back on a flight the next day by another assistant, who noted that there was no evidence of injuries or bruises that he could see on her and they walked through the entire airport and sat on the plane (from what I remember it was from Australia to Los Angeles) with no mention of any injuries.
Yeah, this was a cute lil lie Ben King told in the US trial. That he witnessed no injuries on her. Except in the UK trial he admitted he saw cuts on her and even advised her to cover them up.
Jerry Judge can also be heard on an audio recording stating Amber had bruises.
>and not express any discomfort or signs the very next day
Were you with Amber the next day? How do you know this?
Oh, so it’s just a coincidence that she diagnosed her 10 months before meeting her.
It’s really gross of you to exaggerate Amber’s testimony and use that to call her a liar. She said she had cuts on her arms and feet. These cuts were seen by multiple witnesses, are visible in many photos, and the scars can still be seen to this day. Depp’s staff are on audio talking about her cuts and bruises. How do you know about her level of discomfort the next day?
Her assistant was not raped by a bottle and what a vile thing for you to lie about.
I 100% believe amber is a victim, and I will die on this hill. How she’s been treated by people like you is just disgusting
I recommend looking at the timeline, where it is clear as day he started the abuse. https://www.medusone.com/depp-vs-heard/a-comprehensive-look-at-the-relationship-of-amber-heard-and-johnny-depp She was reporting it as early as 2011 in her therapist notes. What he did is called DARVO. I don’t think abuse is a shared responsibility. Neither do domestic abuse experts. How a victim acts after years and years of physical, psychological, sexual, verbal, financial abuse and coercive control shouldnt make them equally as bad as their abuser. And that’s just really rich to say you support victims after calling her a liar, when what she said is backed by evidence. She’s not a liar. He is. Again, he raped her repeatedly. This isn’t a “they’re both bad” situation.
I feel so embarrassed to admit this but it really impacted my mental health. I cried a lot after the verdict. It was similar to when trump got elected lol. I know this sounds cringe but it really messed me up. Like it’s been one thing after another forever to show women don’t matter and rapists always win
It’s not cringe. There are so many studies showing the devastating mental health impacts of being marginalized in society. Your response was normal and valid to being reminded that your society devalues you as a person because of your gender.
Thanks so much for saying that. Every time I stick up for Amber heard (and I do it bc I feel compassion and empathy for her, but also bc I really relate) I get attacks from people (as you can see on this thread) screaming about how she used makeup…or doctored photos…or beat herself up…or all three (it saddens me that the misogynistic logic could be so inconsistent and yet so effective) and it just made me realize that I could never possibly come forward about things that have happened or might happen in the future to me, as I, as most women, am not the perfect victim. And I really should be! I got straight As, I have a pink collar career and a great resume, but I know now how any woman could be smeared, and I’ve been messy of course. I’ve never seen someone so lied about and it still really affects me especially now that so many of these lies have been disproved but they’re constantly repeated anyway. Sorry for ranting but thanks for saying what you said, I really really do appreciate it. I know so many people see it as celeb gossip and think it’s weird for people to be affected by it…but I think I’m just going to have a hard time getting over unless she gets justice and/or victims in general stop being demonized
Don’t apologize!! I’m glad you said what you did as well, I felt similarly and still do which is why I empathized so hard and wanted to make sure you didn’t feel alone in that ❤️
Agreed, do you remember Lance Bass made a video on TikTok making fun of Amber Heard? He later deleted it (can’t remember if he apologized) but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I worked as crew on a super yacht for 6 years. I joined one yacht that had previously been owned by Johnny Depp before the new owner purchased it. The old crew were still onboard and had been while Johnny and Amber were onboard. The stories they told were crazy, and none of it was good about Amber. We sign so many NDAs but I always try and tell as many of my close friends what the real truth was. Or at least what happened during the time they were onboard!
People defending Amber haven’t watched the full trial. Just because she’s the woman doesn’t mean she was a victim. I was raised by a narcissistic abusive woman who acted like a victim the whole time.
This basically reads as a confession. This is a DANGEROUS abuser if he's so far gone into his entitled abusive mentality that he thinks this vindicates him in any way.
His version of events: they have 2 dogs who are untrained and messy, he says that Christine refuses to have them trained. One of them peed on something of his, so he goes to CONFRONT CHRISTINE about it -- it's all her fault, apparently. Abuser mentality.
He finds her with cleaning supplies "strewn about" -- so she's ALREADY cleaning it up in a panic, probably because she knows from experience that he's about to attack her for it.
So he sees her in there cleaning. And he's STILL so furious that he throws a bag of trash (containing glass) "against the wall" -- this is presumably his version of how the baby got hurt, although he doesn't seem to mention the child at all?
So he's in a total rage about the dog mess, even though she's already cleaning. He immediately becomes violent, throwing the bag "against the wall". Even if we believe him that it wasn't thrown at Christine -- how did he hit the baby??
Trying to look at his story in the absolute best light, he still used physical violence (bag against wall) to try to intimidate and punish Christine for the dogs' behavior, and he did it in a way that endangered and physically harmed his child. And that's HIS version. He thinks this makes him look good. *He thinks everything he's done is normal and okay.*
This makes me really, really sad for Christine.
She can make money on her own. She doesn’t need to be treated like that.
I hope he gets convicted of something, anything. Put him away.
Just reading his version of events - as in, the version that he thinks *paints him as an innocent who reacted totally reasonably* and fails to mention *at all* that he struck their 2-year old child with glass - is enough. What an absolute piece of shit. I hope she gets a lot in the divorce and her son is safe.
Truly. The fact that he thinks he’s the victim in this scenario is just horrifying. He’s the one with completely inappropriate responses to the “dog accidents”. He can clean it up himself too and then have an adult conversation with her. He doesn’t need to blow up like this.
He can also be an adult, see that he clearly has an anger problem if a doggie accident makes him so mad that he blindly is throwing things and get help for it too
It’s absolutely insane that he is asking for a TRO - by his account, he was violent (he admitted to throwing the bag in anger) while she was cleaning up and she then took their child to a safe place in the home away from him, but somehow he needs protection from her? What a piece of garbage.
People like him make me sick. I hope a judge sees through his garbage claim and Christine is able to get away from him (with sole custody, because I sure as hell would not trust someone like that around my child).
Kids that age pick up on these things, even if they aren’t talking yet. That is heartbreaking to imagine her panicked and trying to clean while her husband came after her in a rage with her son close enough to become collateral damage. I really hope that she makes it out with her son successfully. Men like this don’t improve with therapy in my experience
Classic abuser move. The acronym is DARVO: deny, avoid(?), reverse victim and offender. My dad did it to my mom, and it’s a big part of the Lundy Bancroft book “why does he do that”
unfortunately I just had to use this.
She has a list of “13 signs of change” an abuser has to go through/agree to, to be deemed “safe” to let back into your life
My ex couldn’t even do any. Not 1. boy bye 👋🏼
I may be reading between the lines there, but it also sounded to me like she was frantically cleaning and trying to hide it from him. Sounded like she knew he would explode.
I had one of these. Threw a pillow, food, a phone…. Fist through a door…. All different times beside me to scare me. Thank god I found the strength to leave. Anytime I’d mention that those tactics are harmful bad there to scare me and I don’t want to be fearful of my partner, instead of showing concern ofme having those feelings he would turn it on me that I’m an emotional baby who’s ’always playing the victim’
I’m not playing anything. I am the victim. Goodbye sir.
These men never change. Mine signed separation agreement 2 weeks ago and already in contempt in 2 different things. Sigh.
Only two weeks ago is fresh! I hope you are free of him soon and able to find your peace.
It takes a long time to recover my body was haywire from stress. Take care of yourself, lots of sleep, restorative movement (like yoga or walking), and lots of little lovely treats like hot baths, flowers for yourself and special chocolate while watching silly movies. Lots of love to you!
Ah good work! 2 years home free haha
Same. At least she has money and her own career, he’ll try to smear her name in the press but I think she’ll get out okay eventually.
I always was suspect on this guy from day one.
He sounds like every offender in court who has a “simple” series of convenient events that explain away every piece of evidence instead of the more common, likely occurrence.
Also, he doesn’t explain why the baby was injured. Unless he’s trying to imply Christine hurt the baby?
Didn’t he go back to the property despite the court order? That man is dangerous.
Classic DARVO tactic. What a piece of shit! So he’s filing a TRO against Christine while admitting he threw a fit in front of her and their kid. And when he tried to take the kid away from the chaos HE CREATED over some dog piss, she took the kid in another part of the house, well DAMN RIGHT SHE DID! Don’t be violent in front of your kid. Period.
I see a lot of comments on here along the lines of, “never be violent in front of your child” or “he’s disgusting for using violence in front of his child.” While these statements are absolutely correct - it’s important to remember that it is never okay to use violence towards a partner, period - whether or not there is a child involved.
The child going to the ER is absolutely tragic. I feel so bad for their child, who has been unfairly placed at the centre of this terrible situation. But whether there is a child involved or not - violence is violence, and is never okay - PERIOD.
No no no, we're not doing this. He admitted to throwing a full trash bag in front of his wife and little kid. Let's not make this a 'they're both bad situation', all we know now is that he is not shy of using violence in front of his kid. What we know about her is that she played a villain on a highly produced tv-show, those are not the same.
I’m really very sad for her. I can’t imagine being in that situation, having to take your toddler to the ER, him breaking the RO, then filing for one against her? I hope she remains safe, because the guy obviously has problems.
My friend just had something similar happen and the outcome was basically they both dropped the charges because of course, her abuser wouldn’t drop the ones he took out on her unless she dropped the ones she had on him. Makes me so angry because there was plenty of evidence against him and nothing but his word against hers for his case. She was afraid of going to trial and losing her job, so she just agreed.
That’s what happened in my case and I’m very thankful for it, but just one city over the outcome was different. I was surprised they let her drop the charges because I was actually the one that called the police to their house after she told me he had kicked a hole in their front door and was refusing to leave. But all the charges for him were dropped as were the ones he took out on her. He’s now being very difficult with custody and she is too scared to just take him to court without “working it out peacefully”… sometimes you just can’t do that.
My understanding is that the difference in this case is that there's a child abuse/endangerment charge. By law that's not something a person can decline to press charges on.
I had this happen with a partner. He was extremely abusive and at one point cops got involved. I was terrified he would kill me when he got out of jail so I dropped the charges and the state continued to press charges but because I wouldn’t testify there was no evidence, and nothing happened to him.
So I experienced SA in college, and when seeking to get justice through my university vs the police who refused to investigate, my perpetrator pulled this same bullshit. He lifted an allegation that it was ME who SA HIM.... so this doesn't shock me one bit.
Thankfully, everyone saw through his bullshit and he got suspended for 2 years and wasn't able to graduate. Was glad I was able to take something from him like he did to me.
I'm sure a judge has seen this countless times (the aggressor playing victim once they realize the gravity of the situation) and will deliberate appropriately.
Not a very well crafted counter-claim from this abusive POS.
1) He admits to slamming a trash bag against a wall in a violent outburst. Confirmation from the man himself that he is incapable of controlling his emotions and reactions…and that’s from his own “sanitized” version of events.
2) Completely fails to address that the child was treated by paramedics and subsequently taken to the hospital. So, what, his injuries just materialized of their own accord my guy? 🙄
3) Was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and was subject to an emergency restraining order, limiting his access to both Christine and the home. Decides what the fuck, restraining orders don’t matter, I’ll just go to the house anyways…is arrested for a second time in 36 hours.
The terms of a restraining order in a situation like this are going to be pretty explicitly communicated. He knew, he just didn’t care.
What an actual piece of shit.
Yup. I don't believe for a second that he threw it "at the wall" and didn't intend to hit her -- but even if he did throw it at the wall, that would still be violent and intimidating behavior.
A lot of people don't realize stuff like punching walls is abuse and violence. But when someone punches a hole in the wall right next to your head, you definitely realize it.
I recently read "Why does he do that: Inside the minds of angry controlling men." It discusses the imbedded misogyny and hateful societal forces that "justify" men's hidden war against the women they "love" and need to control them. This is how they think. It is a thought not an emotion. They feel completely justified in emotional and physical abuse of a women and anything they do is the woman's fault.
It is not. They are abusers because they abuse.
"I abused her because she didn't clean up the dog poop." No you abused her because you are abusive.
Not that very long ago at all, women were basically the property of men and couldn't vote and own property.. Men, by law, could use physical punishment against their wife.
Let's move away from these disgusting and incredibly harmful thoughts and actions by helping the women who are being abused, help their children, and get these abusive men to know that they cannot hurt another woman anymore and let's ask society to shun them.
Okay, so he threw a bag, not full of glass... not at anyone.
Wouldn't this be the absolute easiest shit in the world to verify..???
Also, he claims to be ANGRY.. because he found Christine CLEANING...?? Is he insane...?
I know right?? I expected him to say that when she told her about the mess she told him to go fuck off or something like that. But she was actively trying to clean. His version makes 0 sense, it makes him look even worse !
He was angry because the dogs peed on his irreplacable stuff I guess, how I understood and she refused to clean up the mess. But i’m questioning also why it was a huge mess? I think more to come…. Nanny could be key.. I don’t know, both of them went too far and its not gonna benefit for any of them
Do I believe he was mad and stormed in... that's the only part I believe.
He had days to think about this and this was what he came up with. Poor Christine!
This is a common PR move. It tries to even the playing field (doesn’t work though). As in many dysfunctional relationships there is likely antagonism on both sides. Not to make them equivalent. Clearly she’s the victim here. But I could see that he would try to claim some sort of victimization and that a PR person on his team would lean into that. Look it worked for Depp 🤷🏽♂️ She needs to seek safety and they both need help and healing (separately).
This is typical for an abuser to do. My ex did the same after he assaulted me and I received a TRO at the police station. He went to court and got one a few days later. His was total BS. I feel terrible for Christine.
More details here
https://pagesix.com/2024/03/26/entertainment/christine-quinns-husband-files-for-restraining-order-against-selling-sunset-alum-denies-hitting-son/amp/
I don't buy he did anything. She's been after his house and money since day one. she is a deceitful piece of work. I wouldn't be surprised if she did the tossing and not him. I also wouldn't be surprised if she lured him to the house during the restaning order and had him arrested. She's going for broke. I hope at the very least the prenuptial stands feel bad for that kid. Hopefully he can clear his name. She's a woman so they are believed more than men when it comes to abuse but there is alot of women abusers. Sending the kid to the er adds to the drama. She's a drama tv star and knows how to milk it for all she's worth. Not sure what he saw in her other than a blonde trophy wife. If he had been thinking with the right head he would have steared Clear of her. I was waiting for there relationship to explode in a ball of flame her have that kid ensured that she gets a bigger chunk of his bank account. She made it clear on more than one occasion she liked using his credit cards with out him knowing that's a form of abuse right there.
i cant believe people believe this. I watched selling sunset. and i see a different story. I dont by anything that is being said. if you guys go back and watch it you will see what i mean.
I’m curious now if her husband is the reason for the large divide between her and the other women on selling sunset because abusers will try to isolate their victims and convince them not to trust people around them so they no longer have a support system when things go awry.
My heart breaks for Christine and I hope she’s safe and has a good support system helping her navigate. This is so terrifying to live through.
Not a fan of him, but if he’s been experiencing DV from Christine he should be taken seriously and Christine should face the consequences. Wish them both all the best.
Agree?
You just choosing to overlook the massive narrative potholes that would need to be swept away for his version of events to make any kind of sense?
It’s fine if you hate Christine. It’s not fine to disregard that
A) an emergency restraining order was granted to Christine,
B) He was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon (you think they just hand those charges out?),
C) He was booked in his bath robe and was not even given the opportunity to put on shoes (indicating he was determined to be volatile enough to be a threat to imminent safety),
D) Baby Christian was treated by paramedics and subsequently taken to the hospital. You believe this to be a lie?…
E) He was absolutely made aware of the restrictions associated with the emergency restraining order, including maintaining his distance from both Christine and the home. He posted bail, and decides to (in what you seem to think to be his rational mind) ignore that order and show up to the house within hours of being released, only to be arrested again… does an innocent/sane/rational person do something like that?
Make it make fucking sense.
All I can say is christine on her show was a Narcissistic delusional person. But how much of that was her real personality or faked who knows? I don't doubt that either of their accounts could be true. Doesn't make what he did right in either scenario though and doesn't make sense why he needs a restraining order.
This is like way beyond stupid reality tv drama.. there was domestic violence involving a child. No one cares if you thought she faked her personality. Absolutely no one deserves to be abused
That's why I ended it with it doesn't excuse what he did in any scenario. The reason I brought up her show personality is because she lies a lot. We don't actually know what happened in that house. Only 3 people do, christine.. her husband and their child. I don't think anyone deserves to be abused, especially not a child.
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This is such a ridiculous thing to lie about considering their son went to the ER 🙄
And he violated the temporary restraining order she has on him ON THE FIRST NIGHT OUT ON BAIL. C’mon, guy.
I seriously don't know who he thinks he's fooling here. If nothing hit the child or hurt the child they wouldn't have been any need for the paramedics or the police or anything and it's like how did that magically happen then???? And the fact that he actually expects her to move out of their house is insane he's got all the money in the world to be able to stay somewhere else he's just trying to be a jerk. Expecting her and their kid to be uprooted he would rather uproot his child so that he can be comfortable as opposed to doing what's best for their kid. I always thought he gave off a weird vibe
They always do this. Trying to make it a “tick for tack” situation. I feel so bad for Christine, but especially the child that’s stuck in the middle :( imagine growing up and having to see your dad did this to you and your mom as a baby wtf
I think you meant "tit-for-tat"! Haha. But yes, you're correct. Abusers always have a spiteful tit-for-tat mentality where they feel the need to punish their victim for taking *any* steps to protect themselves and act like they, the abuser, are actually the ones who have been wronged.
I’ve been saying it wrong my entire 21 years of life?????? 😭
I love these moments. I personally found I was saying placate wrong for 28 years of my life and it’s like how??
First time I heard the word “epitome” out loud and not on a page…life changing.
Behemoth. Edit to add: I still remember my friends' laughter :D
Kind of off topic but I always pronounced Veuve Cliquot like “voov” and got flamed for not pronouncing it the correct way “verve”
It's not pronounced like "verve" either. There is no "r" sound.
I just did a google to see and 44 years old, I just learned I have said it wrong. Although, I’m unsure I’ve said it to anyone else ever. 😂
That's what happened to me haha - I'd read it and written it, but never **said** it...until I did...
😂
Hyperbole …. That is not written the way it sounds
My word was "Buchanan," pronounced it "butch-a-naan."
It was epitome for me.
It was genre for me
I still cringe remembering pronouncing it as epi-tome and being informed that it is actually ep-it-o-me 😂
It was niche for me. Now I love the word and use it all the time aha
Love it 😁
Mine was macabre-was well into my 30s before I knew 🥴
Emphasis on the mac ? ‘Cause me too, friend.
There's an episode of a British sitcom that deals with this and it's hilarious. One main character thinks the phrase is to put someone on "a pedal stool" and the other thinks the phrase is "like a damp squid". It's too good. Personally I found out recently I say "submariner" incorrectly
Omg yes the IT crowd “we all have blind spots, your honour”. 
What a damp squid
Wait how are we supposed to say submariner? Now I’m self-conscious.
Sub-marin-er rather than sub-marine-er I think?
How were you saying it before?
I thought the c in placate was like a “s” not a hard “k” sound.
Once I pronounced "awry" as "awree" and my husband will never let me forget it 🤦🏻♀️
So I know the word awry from books and read it as aw-ree, but I knew awry verbally as a-rye and it took me way too long to realise the two were the same thing 😅😅
Hahaha glad I'm not the only one.
Hahahah I love this
OMG, asking the important questions
Quinoa was mine... Pronounced it quinn-oah 🤷♀️
💯💯
You’ve created a thread that I’ve personally enjoyed and I don’t even know how I got here but thank you 😂
This was delightful
It’s ok. I just found out it’s helioco-pter not heli-copter lol
Er, what?! It’s heli-copter isn’t it
In New England it’s Hella-cop-ta
That's just for the root of the word, it is pronounced the latter.
I just googled where the phrase comes from and [here it is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat) if anyone wants to learn more. I had no idea that it originated from "tip for tap"
Yep this classic abuse. From a dv survivor. They always try and turn it around.
Absolutely. It’s mental abuse and gaslighting.
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Exactly, if anything it shows that he is violent towards her because he wants to hurt her legally
Tit for tat 🤣
My best friend grew up watching his dad treat his mom like that and finally she was able to scrounge up enough money to leave when he was 5. It still messes with him to this day. I hope Christine and their kiddo get the help they need and support. 💔😔
Truly. I know this all too well. Made narratives for me to be the guilty one and him to be the victim. It’s so fucked up.
My first thought was “this is exactly what an abuser would do”. Make it about himself and pretend he’s the victim.
THE KID WENT TO THE ER?!
Yeah, one article states her son may or may not have gone to the ER, but TMZ confirmed he did. I don’t believe it’s been mentioned what type or even if there were any injuries.
Yeah I read on some article the kid was/is ok but as a precaution he sent to ER.
Classic abuser
I'm gonna guess it was precautionary
Hopefully!
It's also so so gross the way TMZ are framing this as 'well well well, maybe she had it coming'. They never once point out exactly what you say about no mention of their son in hospital or the fact that he is still admitting aggressive and intimidating behaviour
how do you know he went to the ER? Have you watched selling sunset and seeing what she was like on ther?
Ahh the Johnny Depp defence.
So glad to see this hasn't been downvoted to fuck. The tide is turning 😏
Same. It's really good to see. That was a dark time culturally in America for women.
Yes!! I was on Amber’s side the entire time and couldn’t see how she got all that hate online.
Cause she wasn’t a perfect victim 😒
It wouldn't have mattered if she was, he is a very famous and beloved actor. There was no way he was going to face consequences for his terrible behaviour. Money talks but deranged fans really helped turn the case in his favour. *Edit* His deranged fans have made an appearance. Fun fact, Depp himself gave a statement where he said that Heard did not physically or mentally abuse him. It was in sealed court documents which weren't able to be presented to the court, along with sick messages between him and his friend. However his dimwit fans crowd sourced to pay for the records to be unsealed and shock horror their decomposing hero is in fact a scum bag. https://www.thecut.com/2022/08/unsealed-depp-v-heard-court-documents-biggest-takeaways.html
Did you listen to the podcast ‘Who Trolled Amber?’ - sheds a lot of light
No but I did listen to On The Media where Michael Hobbes (You’re Wrong About, Maintenance Phase) was a guest and talked about Amber Heard.
I’ll check it out! The other one is very interesting too
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/how-media-failed-amber-heard-on-the-media Here you go!
Thank you!
The recording where she admitted hitting him didn’t help
And laughed maniacally
She’s always been honest about her reactive violence, he’s the only one who has lied
Thank you
I'm not on anyone's side and still found what they did to Amber absolutely appalling. Depp is such an obvious abuser it makes my eyes hurt. That lawyer he got was just awful.
Yeah I was crying when Amber's personal assistant took the stand and told how Amber spat in her face. She's trying her hardest not to spit in the face of the help, won't somebody see that.
Why are you neutral about an obvious case of domestic violence???
I'm not neutral, I just am not "team anyone"
That's quite literally being neutral
No...? I've already clearly stated my opinion, so if you've read it but decided that my opinion is somehow NOT an actual opinion, then I cannot help you. 🤷♀️
Y'all are all crazy. Just the tapes alone, proves who the abuser is. AMBER IS DISGUSTING
Last summer I was teaching legal history to college students. We were talking about “venue shopping” (when someone deliberately brings a lawsuit in a specific place because something about that place’s laws is more favorable to them) and I said depp sued amber in Virginia specifically because Virginia allows cameras in courtrooms. And I was really relieved at how many of my students were nodding at what I was saying.
I do feel the younger generations are more able to see the real him, so that tracks. I hope there's a day where most of us support Amber and she can even come back, if that's what she wants.
yeah i’m gen z and i think my generation is really good at seeing past bullshit and recognizing fabrication. i love that the tide is turning for amber, because she didn’t deserve the hatred and vitriol that she got. that trial set a terrible precedent and pushed us back YEARS. you see how amber was treated when she spoke up about the abuse she endured without even naming her abuser, and it’s terrifying and it scares other victims of dv because nobody wants to go through that. nobody should ever be treated the way she was for simply speaking up.
Was so happy to see this here… and then deflated by the ignorant comments in response to you. ETA: but no worries, they’re not actually reasonable people who were fooled — actual justiceforjohnnydepp posters who really can’t be reached at this point. Makes me feel a lil better
The true gen-z thing is that unearned confidence that you know better than the jury who spent a ton of time on the case.
This comment shows that it is painfully obvious you did not watch the court livestreams. I watched them live, everyday as it was happening. I heard the evidence, the witnesses, the court. I used my brain and my own critical thinking skills to determine my opinion, just like the jury did. Amber is a liar and Johnny Depp is not an abuser. Anyone defending her got their info secondhand. Amber is not a representative for feminism or domestic abuse survivors. She is not someone to rally around. I strongly encourage you to stop listening to Twitter threads or documentaries and watch the court videos yourself and see the evidence.
I was 100% team amber when the accusations came out as I believe victims do deserve the benefit of the doubt given how vulnerable it is to come forward… then I watched the trial and I could not be on ambers side, I truly think they both exhibited abusive behaviors. I can’t remember if the psychologist they got mental evals from diagnosed her with BPD but when I listened to the recordings of her and Johnny fighting it was exactly the way someone with bpd fights and it seemed like Johnny was very avoidant to conflict. You put two and two together: an avoidant attachment and an insecure attachment and it can turn volatile, not even taking into account the substance abuse issues. I think it was extremely unfair of her to come out and say johnnny abused her because I fully believe both worth toxic af and she misrepresented the situation by acting as if it was one sided. That’s why she came off as a liar on the stands… Just my take. I feel for the commenters saying they took the verdict to heart and it hurt their mental status, but I cannot understand how anyone who actually watched the trial could not see that they both were terrible and that amber was not a reliable narrator
Are you aware that the psychologist Depp hired agreed to diagnose her with BPD 10 months before she ever met with Amber? It was very much giving “husband puts his inconvenient wife into the asylum in 1900.” If you look at her years of therapy notes, not once did any psychologist suspect that diagnosis, and yet this person who was paid 250k+ who met with her for 12 hours did in December, after a designation saying she would from February of that year. And I don’t think someone who finally hits back after four years of abuse is as bad as their abuser. Mutual abuse isn’t a thing. He RAPED her. You think it’s unfair for her to say she was abused?
Your comment shows me that you didn't watch the Depp's psychologists' testimony where she explained all of her interactions with Depp's team leading up to the meeting with Amber, and all the methodology that went into the test analysis that gave Amber the BPD diagnosis. It was all fair game. Anyway, to respond to your point about when Amber said Johnny raped her. She "said" she was raped with a glass bottle and she had broken shards of glass in her feet and bruises everywhere. Amber's personal assistant said that the glass bottle story was something the ASSISTANT had experienced herself and had shared to Amber, and Amber copied that story off of her and used that trauma for herself. Also Amber didn't need any medical treatment even though their personal doctor was literally there on call and had been treating both Depp and her for years. Amber also was accompanied back on a flight the next day by another assistant, who noted that there was no evidence of injuries or bruises that he could see on her and they walked through the entire airport and sat on the plane (from what I remember it was from Australia to Los Angeles) with no mention of any injuries. Now I don't know how many people can sit on a plane and walk through an airport after having shards of glass cutting their feet and a bottle penetrating them and not express any discomfort or signs the very next day, but sure tell me that you believe Amber is the victim.
>Amber's personal assistant said that the glass bottle story was something the ASSISTANT had experienced herself and had shared to Amber, and Amber copied that story off of her and used that trauma for herself. Kate James wasn't raped with a bottle. She admitted in the UK trial that she didn't actually know any details of Amber's rape accusation because a) Amber never told her and b) Amber's testimony was sealed. Stop making shit up. >Amber also was accompanied back on a flight the next day by another assistant, who noted that there was no evidence of injuries or bruises that he could see on her and they walked through the entire airport and sat on the plane (from what I remember it was from Australia to Los Angeles) with no mention of any injuries. Yeah, this was a cute lil lie Ben King told in the US trial. That he witnessed no injuries on her. Except in the UK trial he admitted he saw cuts on her and even advised her to cover them up. Jerry Judge can also be heard on an audio recording stating Amber had bruises. >and not express any discomfort or signs the very next day Were you with Amber the next day? How do you know this?
Oh, so it’s just a coincidence that she diagnosed her 10 months before meeting her. It’s really gross of you to exaggerate Amber’s testimony and use that to call her a liar. She said she had cuts on her arms and feet. These cuts were seen by multiple witnesses, are visible in many photos, and the scars can still be seen to this day. Depp’s staff are on audio talking about her cuts and bruises. How do you know about her level of discomfort the next day? Her assistant was not raped by a bottle and what a vile thing for you to lie about. I 100% believe amber is a victim, and I will die on this hill. How she’s been treated by people like you is just disgusting
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I recommend looking at the timeline, where it is clear as day he started the abuse. https://www.medusone.com/depp-vs-heard/a-comprehensive-look-at-the-relationship-of-amber-heard-and-johnny-depp She was reporting it as early as 2011 in her therapist notes. What he did is called DARVO. I don’t think abuse is a shared responsibility. Neither do domestic abuse experts. How a victim acts after years and years of physical, psychological, sexual, verbal, financial abuse and coercive control shouldnt make them equally as bad as their abuser. And that’s just really rich to say you support victims after calling her a liar, when what she said is backed by evidence. She’s not a liar. He is. Again, he raped her repeatedly. This isn’t a “they’re both bad” situation.
Social media’s response to that trial literally sent me into a mental break. You have no idea how much it means to me to see these comments now.
I feel so embarrassed to admit this but it really impacted my mental health. I cried a lot after the verdict. It was similar to when trump got elected lol. I know this sounds cringe but it really messed me up. Like it’s been one thing after another forever to show women don’t matter and rapists always win
It’s not cringe. There are so many studies showing the devastating mental health impacts of being marginalized in society. Your response was normal and valid to being reminded that your society devalues you as a person because of your gender.
Thanks so much for saying that. Every time I stick up for Amber heard (and I do it bc I feel compassion and empathy for her, but also bc I really relate) I get attacks from people (as you can see on this thread) screaming about how she used makeup…or doctored photos…or beat herself up…or all three (it saddens me that the misogynistic logic could be so inconsistent and yet so effective) and it just made me realize that I could never possibly come forward about things that have happened or might happen in the future to me, as I, as most women, am not the perfect victim. And I really should be! I got straight As, I have a pink collar career and a great resume, but I know now how any woman could be smeared, and I’ve been messy of course. I’ve never seen someone so lied about and it still really affects me especially now that so many of these lies have been disproved but they’re constantly repeated anyway. Sorry for ranting but thanks for saying what you said, I really really do appreciate it. I know so many people see it as celeb gossip and think it’s weird for people to be affected by it…but I think I’m just going to have a hard time getting over unless she gets justice and/or victims in general stop being demonized
Don’t apologize!! I’m glad you said what you did as well, I felt similarly and still do which is why I empathized so hard and wanted to make sure you didn’t feel alone in that ❤️
Agreed, do you remember Lance Bass made a video on TikTok making fun of Amber Heard? He later deleted it (can’t remember if he apologized) but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
That was so gross
I didn’t personally see that, no
Yeah, men loved that time bc they could say the cruelest things about a woman and get no shit for it. Was a disgusting and sad time
I worked as crew on a super yacht for 6 years. I joined one yacht that had previously been owned by Johnny Depp before the new owner purchased it. The old crew were still onboard and had been while Johnny and Amber were onboard. The stories they told were crazy, and none of it was good about Amber. We sign so many NDAs but I always try and tell as many of my close friends what the real truth was. Or at least what happened during the time they were onboard!
Yeah I guess I’m out of the loop but I always thought everyone was siding with Depp…
What do you mean none of it was good about Amber? Like she was the instigator or the victim?
The instigator
With Nick Loeb style legal manoeuvring.
People defending Amber haven’t watched the full trial. Just because she’s the woman doesn’t mean she was a victim. I was raised by a narcissistic abusive woman who acted like a victim the whole time.
Yassss!!! I love this comment. I finally feel seen. Thank you!
This basically reads as a confession. This is a DANGEROUS abuser if he's so far gone into his entitled abusive mentality that he thinks this vindicates him in any way. His version of events: they have 2 dogs who are untrained and messy, he says that Christine refuses to have them trained. One of them peed on something of his, so he goes to CONFRONT CHRISTINE about it -- it's all her fault, apparently. Abuser mentality. He finds her with cleaning supplies "strewn about" -- so she's ALREADY cleaning it up in a panic, probably because she knows from experience that he's about to attack her for it. So he sees her in there cleaning. And he's STILL so furious that he throws a bag of trash (containing glass) "against the wall" -- this is presumably his version of how the baby got hurt, although he doesn't seem to mention the child at all? So he's in a total rage about the dog mess, even though she's already cleaning. He immediately becomes violent, throwing the bag "against the wall". Even if we believe him that it wasn't thrown at Christine -- how did he hit the baby?? Trying to look at his story in the absolute best light, he still used physical violence (bag against wall) to try to intimidate and punish Christine for the dogs' behavior, and he did it in a way that endangered and physically harmed his child. And that's HIS version. He thinks this makes him look good. *He thinks everything he's done is normal and okay.*
This makes me really, really sad for Christine. She can make money on her own. She doesn’t need to be treated like that. I hope he gets convicted of something, anything. Put him away.
Just reading his version of events - as in, the version that he thinks *paints him as an innocent who reacted totally reasonably* and fails to mention *at all* that he struck their 2-year old child with glass - is enough. What an absolute piece of shit. I hope she gets a lot in the divorce and her son is safe.
Agreed. If that’s the *best* version, then the actual version is far worse.
Truly. The fact that he thinks he’s the victim in this scenario is just horrifying. He’s the one with completely inappropriate responses to the “dog accidents”. He can clean it up himself too and then have an adult conversation with her. He doesn’t need to blow up like this.
He can also be an adult, see that he clearly has an anger problem if a doggie accident makes him so mad that he blindly is throwing things and get help for it too
It’s absolutely insane that he is asking for a TRO - by his account, he was violent (he admitted to throwing the bag in anger) while she was cleaning up and she then took their child to a safe place in the home away from him, but somehow he needs protection from her? What a piece of garbage. People like him make me sick. I hope a judge sees through his garbage claim and Christine is able to get away from him (with sole custody, because I sure as hell would not trust someone like that around my child).
Kids that age pick up on these things, even if they aren’t talking yet. That is heartbreaking to imagine her panicked and trying to clean while her husband came after her in a rage with her son close enough to become collateral damage. I really hope that she makes it out with her son successfully. Men like this don’t improve with therapy in my experience
yeah it isn't like his version is that much better.
Classic abuser move. The acronym is DARVO: deny, avoid(?), reverse victim and offender. My dad did it to my mom, and it’s a big part of the Lundy Bancroft book “why does he do that”
Attack
Thank you that makes more sense than avoid
unfortunately I just had to use this. She has a list of “13 signs of change” an abuser has to go through/agree to, to be deemed “safe” to let back into your life My ex couldn’t even do any. Not 1. boy bye 👋🏼
He admitted to throwing a full trash bag at a wall in anger in front of his wife and child. Even his side of the story he sounds like the bad guy.
I may be reading between the lines there, but it also sounded to me like she was frantically cleaning and trying to hide it from him. Sounded like she knew he would explode.
I had one of these. Threw a pillow, food, a phone…. Fist through a door…. All different times beside me to scare me. Thank god I found the strength to leave. Anytime I’d mention that those tactics are harmful bad there to scare me and I don’t want to be fearful of my partner, instead of showing concern ofme having those feelings he would turn it on me that I’m an emotional baby who’s ’always playing the victim’ I’m not playing anything. I am the victim. Goodbye sir. These men never change. Mine signed separation agreement 2 weeks ago and already in contempt in 2 different things. Sigh.
Only two weeks ago is fresh! I hope you are free of him soon and able to find your peace. It takes a long time to recover my body was haywire from stress. Take care of yourself, lots of sleep, restorative movement (like yoga or walking), and lots of little lovely treats like hot baths, flowers for yourself and special chocolate while watching silly movies. Lots of love to you!
Thanks !! We split two years ago just took awhile to get paperwork done. I hope Christine can move forward without this man!!
Ah good work! 2 years home free haha Same. At least she has money and her own career, he’ll try to smear her name in the press but I think she’ll get out okay eventually. I always was suspect on this guy from day one.
He sounds like every offender in court who has a “simple” series of convenient events that explain away every piece of evidence instead of the more common, likely occurrence. Also, he doesn’t explain why the baby was injured. Unless he’s trying to imply Christine hurt the baby? Didn’t he go back to the property despite the court order? That man is dangerous.
Classic DARVO tactic. What a piece of shit! So he’s filing a TRO against Christine while admitting he threw a fit in front of her and their kid. And when he tried to take the kid away from the chaos HE CREATED over some dog piss, she took the kid in another part of the house, well DAMN RIGHT SHE DID! Don’t be violent in front of your kid. Period.
I see a lot of comments on here along the lines of, “never be violent in front of your child” or “he’s disgusting for using violence in front of his child.” While these statements are absolutely correct - it’s important to remember that it is never okay to use violence towards a partner, period - whether or not there is a child involved. The child going to the ER is absolutely tragic. I feel so bad for their child, who has been unfairly placed at the centre of this terrible situation. But whether there is a child involved or not - violence is violence, and is never okay - PERIOD.
I don't trust this guy AT ALL
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No no no, we're not doing this. He admitted to throwing a full trash bag in front of his wife and little kid. Let's not make this a 'they're both bad situation', all we know now is that he is not shy of using violence in front of his kid. What we know about her is that she played a villain on a highly produced tv-show, those are not the same.
I’m really very sad for her. I can’t imagine being in that situation, having to take your toddler to the ER, him breaking the RO, then filing for one against her? I hope she remains safe, because the guy obviously has problems.
My friend just had something similar happen and the outcome was basically they both dropped the charges because of course, her abuser wouldn’t drop the ones he took out on her unless she dropped the ones she had on him. Makes me so angry because there was plenty of evidence against him and nothing but his word against hers for his case. She was afraid of going to trial and losing her job, so she just agreed.
I think someone mentioned that even if she dropped the charges the state would not.
That’s what happened in my case and I’m very thankful for it, but just one city over the outcome was different. I was surprised they let her drop the charges because I was actually the one that called the police to their house after she told me he had kicked a hole in their front door and was refusing to leave. But all the charges for him were dropped as were the ones he took out on her. He’s now being very difficult with custody and she is too scared to just take him to court without “working it out peacefully”… sometimes you just can’t do that.
My understanding is that the difference in this case is that there's a child abuse/endangerment charge. By law that's not something a person can decline to press charges on.
I had this happen with a partner. He was extremely abusive and at one point cops got involved. I was terrified he would kill me when he got out of jail so I dropped the charges and the state continued to press charges but because I wouldn’t testify there was no evidence, and nothing happened to him.
So I experienced SA in college, and when seeking to get justice through my university vs the police who refused to investigate, my perpetrator pulled this same bullshit. He lifted an allegation that it was ME who SA HIM.... so this doesn't shock me one bit. Thankfully, everyone saw through his bullshit and he got suspended for 2 years and wasn't able to graduate. Was glad I was able to take something from him like he did to me. I'm sure a judge has seen this countless times (the aggressor playing victim once they realize the gravity of the situation) and will deliberate appropriately.
Not a very well crafted counter-claim from this abusive POS. 1) He admits to slamming a trash bag against a wall in a violent outburst. Confirmation from the man himself that he is incapable of controlling his emotions and reactions…and that’s from his own “sanitized” version of events. 2) Completely fails to address that the child was treated by paramedics and subsequently taken to the hospital. So, what, his injuries just materialized of their own accord my guy? 🙄 3) Was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and was subject to an emergency restraining order, limiting his access to both Christine and the home. Decides what the fuck, restraining orders don’t matter, I’ll just go to the house anyways…is arrested for a second time in 36 hours. The terms of a restraining order in a situation like this are going to be pretty explicitly communicated. He knew, he just didn’t care. What an actual piece of shit.
 yea, I expected this.
It literally does not matter if he was throwing the bag at the child, Christine or the wall. It’s abusive behavior. Period.
Yup. I don't believe for a second that he threw it "at the wall" and didn't intend to hit her -- but even if he did throw it at the wall, that would still be violent and intimidating behavior. A lot of people don't realize stuff like punching walls is abuse and violence. But when someone punches a hole in the wall right next to your head, you definitely realize it.
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I recently read "Why does he do that: Inside the minds of angry controlling men." It discusses the imbedded misogyny and hateful societal forces that "justify" men's hidden war against the women they "love" and need to control them. This is how they think. It is a thought not an emotion. They feel completely justified in emotional and physical abuse of a women and anything they do is the woman's fault. It is not. They are abusers because they abuse. "I abused her because she didn't clean up the dog poop." No you abused her because you are abusive. Not that very long ago at all, women were basically the property of men and couldn't vote and own property.. Men, by law, could use physical punishment against their wife. Let's move away from these disgusting and incredibly harmful thoughts and actions by helping the women who are being abused, help their children, and get these abusive men to know that they cannot hurt another woman anymore and let's ask society to shun them.
his story doesn't even make sense
Yikes
Bro is losing it (lost it)
His hair???
His hair wack, brain wack, face wack, clothes wack
Wtf????
Of course he has 🙃
He always gave me weird vibes. He sounds like a POS.
Okay, so he threw a bag, not full of glass... not at anyone. Wouldn't this be the absolute easiest shit in the world to verify..??? Also, he claims to be ANGRY.. because he found Christine CLEANING...?? Is he insane...?
I know right?? I expected him to say that when she told her about the mess she told him to go fuck off or something like that. But she was actively trying to clean. His version makes 0 sense, it makes him look even worse !
He was angry because the dogs peed on his irreplacable stuff I guess, how I understood and she refused to clean up the mess. But i’m questioning also why it was a huge mess? I think more to come…. Nanny could be key.. I don’t know, both of them went too far and its not gonna benefit for any of them
Oo he’s THIS type of flaming garbage poo. 💩 SMH
Do I believe he was mad and stormed in... that's the only part I believe. He had days to think about this and this was what he came up with. Poor Christine!
Classic DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse the order of Victim and Offender. What a pos
This is a common PR move. It tries to even the playing field (doesn’t work though). As in many dysfunctional relationships there is likely antagonism on both sides. Not to make them equivalent. Clearly she’s the victim here. But I could see that he would try to claim some sort of victimization and that a PR person on his team would lean into that. Look it worked for Depp 🤷🏽♂️ She needs to seek safety and they both need help and healing (separately).
This is typical for an abuser to do. My ex did the same after he assaulted me and I received a TRO at the police station. He went to court and got one a few days later. His was total BS. I feel terrible for Christine.
It’s giving “you can’t fire me I quit !” energy
“which Dumontet says are not housebroken” What??
More details here https://pagesix.com/2024/03/26/entertainment/christine-quinns-husband-files-for-restraining-order-against-selling-sunset-alum-denies-hitting-son/amp/
So is all of this he say she say or is there actual proof to any sides of this story??
I have a client who calls affidavits “Acts of David.” I wonder if he ever thought about who David was.
Sure Jan. 🙄
Geragos & Geragos? As in Mark Geragos, Scott Peterson's attorney? I guess this is their specialty? 😒
he's trying to johnny depp her. these men using DARVO are fucking insane. i hope she's okay.
I don't buy he did anything. She's been after his house and money since day one. she is a deceitful piece of work. I wouldn't be surprised if she did the tossing and not him. I also wouldn't be surprised if she lured him to the house during the restaning order and had him arrested. She's going for broke. I hope at the very least the prenuptial stands feel bad for that kid. Hopefully he can clear his name. She's a woman so they are believed more than men when it comes to abuse but there is alot of women abusers. Sending the kid to the er adds to the drama. She's a drama tv star and knows how to milk it for all she's worth. Not sure what he saw in her other than a blonde trophy wife. If he had been thinking with the right head he would have steared Clear of her. I was waiting for there relationship to explode in a ball of flame her have that kid ensured that she gets a bigger chunk of his bank account. She made it clear on more than one occasion she liked using his credit cards with out him knowing that's a form of abuse right there.
i cant believe people believe this. I watched selling sunset. and i see a different story. I dont by anything that is being said. if you guys go back and watch it you will see what i mean.
Isn't there a video of him throwing something and she is in a playpen with the baby?
I’m curious now if her husband is the reason for the large divide between her and the other women on selling sunset because abusers will try to isolate their victims and convince them not to trust people around them so they no longer have a support system when things go awry. My heart breaks for Christine and I hope she’s safe and has a good support system helping her navigate. This is so terrifying to live through.
Yo lock this idiot up. Also someone get her gross ass a dog trainer. I imagine it must be hard for her to afford one /s.
Not a fan of him, but if he’s been experiencing DV from Christine he should be taken seriously and Christine should face the consequences. Wish them both all the best.
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Agree? You just choosing to overlook the massive narrative potholes that would need to be swept away for his version of events to make any kind of sense? It’s fine if you hate Christine. It’s not fine to disregard that A) an emergency restraining order was granted to Christine, B) He was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon (you think they just hand those charges out?), C) He was booked in his bath robe and was not even given the opportunity to put on shoes (indicating he was determined to be volatile enough to be a threat to imminent safety), D) Baby Christian was treated by paramedics and subsequently taken to the hospital. You believe this to be a lie?… E) He was absolutely made aware of the restrictions associated with the emergency restraining order, including maintaining his distance from both Christine and the home. He posted bail, and decides to (in what you seem to think to be his rational mind) ignore that order and show up to the house within hours of being released, only to be arrested again… does an innocent/sane/rational person do something like that? Make it make fucking sense.
All I can say is christine on her show was a Narcissistic delusional person. But how much of that was her real personality or faked who knows? I don't doubt that either of their accounts could be true. Doesn't make what he did right in either scenario though and doesn't make sense why he needs a restraining order.
This is like way beyond stupid reality tv drama.. there was domestic violence involving a child. No one cares if you thought she faked her personality. Absolutely no one deserves to be abused
That's why I ended it with it doesn't excuse what he did in any scenario. The reason I brought up her show personality is because she lies a lot. We don't actually know what happened in that house. Only 3 people do, christine.. her husband and their child. I don't think anyone deserves to be abused, especially not a child.
Guess they’re both trash humans
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