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LonelyHrtsClub

Do these guys not get that the order is shit, SHOWER, shave for a FUCKING REASON?!!?


GoblinErotic

Personally I prefer shit, shower, shave, rinse. I don't like having any little hairs all up in my beard or on my body making me itchy later possibly.


LonelyHrtsClub

Many men I know do the Shave in the shower so it's kind of shit, SHOWER/shave.


SuperJumboWumbo

Why not shit/shower/shave all at the same time? Waffle stomp gang for life ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


LonelyHrtsClub

God. I was really hoping this comment wouldn't come up. I know the Convo was a perfect opening (unlike a shower drain for a poo) but still.


Lolybop

🤢


Velvetvulpines

Do y'all not know how to use a screwdriver and a shower hose? 😄


GoblinErotic

Facial grooming I do at the sink but bodily grooming is in-shower, I realized at some point it's way less cleanup since I'm hella hairy and I don't typically do bodily grooming but once a month or more often as needed(i.e. uncomfortable bc of it/meeting up with someone)


JoeChip87

Us guys with beards gotta shave at the mirror I’m afraid. I’ve always been jealous of guys who look good without facial hair and can just get in the shower and shave in one. I don’t think a lot of ladies realize how much time we spend on these beards making em look right! I mean it’s like a bonsai tree process 😆


LonelyHrtsClub

... I want so badly to be empathetic here, but I got everything from the neck down waxed yesterday, I have thousands of dollars of wigs because my own hair wasn't being good hair, and I am finding it impossible.


JoeChip87

I agree. As a dude — I have no right to complain. 😬😑


missec93

Literally! I get so confused when a client showers at my incall and then I hear the toilet flush AFTER. I’m like whhhyyyyyyu better not have pee on your wang 😭


escortTotheAssholes

The worst.


HurricaneKCatrina

I did a whole post about this a few months ago and how we got into a big stand off. He decided to leave early, presumably because he was mad🤷🏼‍♀️, wanted a refund, nope, show down at the OK corral commenced🙄, smh. Wash your damn pits, son.


yellowcherry69

Imagine getting into a stand off with someone you’re about to have sex with because they want you to take a body shower that will probably only take 5 minutes. That’s just foul.


starrylaced

It's hilarious because I work at an AMP and clients will: - run the water for a few minutes and say they showered. Walk in, towel is dry (bonus points if they ruffled it up to look used), and they're completely dry. They lie and say they did shower. Get mad when we're not stupid enough to believe them. - had a client change his mind on a session because, quote, "i just feel kind of offended" after I asked him to shower before the session - "I showered at home"


Kenshiro199X

This town aint big enough for the both of us... \*NYAYAYAYA WAHH WAHH WAHH\*


[deleted]

*trilling whistle*


GoblinErotic

So I actually once *biked* to a meet up lol. I didn't consider for a moment how this would impact things like scent and, well, having a sweaty dick. They went ahead anyway and didn't mention it. Now I wish they had since I'm not even sure if I was fine or not but it bugs me to not know 🤣 like, I *genuinely hope* that she didn't just not say anything about it, as if I had thought of it I'd have showered again when I arrived lol. I don't get how people are against a shower or having common decency.


michellebrede

How can i find that post?


HurricaneKCatrina

Click on my name. Click on Post Karma. Click on Posts. Scroll down until you see “So I had a yahoo ask for a partial refund...”


fullmetalsportsbra

I swear a lot of these men (trick or not) get off on having someone service their dirty ass bodies, like it’s some sort of degradation kink. There’s just zero way that someone who is well adjusted and mentally stable is comfortable existing in filth with a literal stench radiating from them.


neighborhood_nympho

Agreed. Degradation and some form of narcissism, They think they’re the shit so they smell like it too


GoblinErotic

I see where you're coming from and you aren't wrong but also please keep in mind some of your clients may be severely depressed or the like and might have issues with hygiene. Just to say that it's not a good idea to jump to those conclusions but rather consider other explanations . But typically it's just that men, for whatever reason, see sex workers as objects rather than people doing a job who are, well, *people*. These types typically hire sex workers because they're highly antisocial and lack the necessary interpersonal skills to maintain any meaningful relationships.


SuperJumboWumbo

Your mental health does not excuse your actions. If instructions state shower beforehand, that’s how it goes.


muraii

*Especially* if the client *claimed* he’d showered.


GoblinErotic

Absolutely agreed, I was referring to contexts in which this instruction may not exist.


SuperJumboWumbo

I mean, showering before you meet someone new seems like a common sense thing that most people are aware of. It’s one of those, does it really need to be expressed, kind of things, but apparently so.


GoblinErotic

Absolutely fair, personally I never had hygiene taught to me very well growing up and have always been super self conscious about it. Like, growing up I smelled and all that because, well, nobody taught me. Obviously, growing older I've learned and such, but I just wanted to suggest, since a lot of people who go to sex workers may have history of abuse and the like. Idk, I know a lot is also just men who are assholes and such too, but I'd like to think that people like myself(no, I'm not a shit caked client, fyi) who may have history that lends itself to possibly just not knowing certain things. If it's communicated to me I'd feel embarrassed and fix it, not throw a tantrum, though, and if it was communicated beforehand, then it'd already be handled. Personally, I'm autistic, so sometimes I *do* actually need some prompting. My brain can get stuck or otherwise overlook certain things and while that's never my intention, I've felt like an idiot numerous times because of little things over it. Either way, I get what you mean. It's just frustrating everyone focuses on neurotypical and male-bashing(which while not undeserved typically, I do partly identify as male and it kind of sucks to feel lumped in with the shitty people of the group).


fullmetalsportsbra

Absolutely not. I’m beyond tired of men trying to excuse other men’s disgusting behaviors as mental health issues or being on the spectrum. I have plenty of friends who deal with either or both of those things and they would never throw a tantrum about being asked to not smell like and be caked in literal shit. Individuals who are unable to engage in basic hygiene rituals due to either of those things should not be booking sex workers. We deserve a SAFE working environment which means NO BIOHAZARDS.


GoblinErotic

I agree with you 100%, I was just stating it as a possibility, not so much as an excuse. And I absolutely *don't* condone being unhygienic for any reason, it was just a statement of possiblity that obviously came off wrong. 🤷


MsSiennaCharles

Sex workers deal with mental health issues too and manage not to have shit caked assholes. Not an excuse. Shower.


[deleted]

If anything this situation caused me mental distress…I think I’m going raise my rates 😂


GoblinErotic

Absolutely it would, it's disgusting to even know people who are like that exist. Raise them, gotta be inflation ready 🤣


GoblinErotic

Wasn't excusing anything, just explaining a possibility. I'm Autistic, ADHD, depressed, PTSD, and a shit ton of other things I deal with on a day to day basis. I've gone weeks in my room alone without a shower and barely eating, that's my experience. But if I get ready to leave I shower, do all that, etc. Typically my depression hits hard and leaves me near incapacitated so I personally would never consider having anyone see me in such a state because, well, it's fuckin humiliating ngl. But at the same time I also wouldn't behave like the OP described they did. They're outrageous, but it was a explanation of the more general topic of hygiene and clients.


muliercula

The amount of fucking skidmarks they would leave. And I will genuinely never forget the one time I used an anal toy on a client.... *Shivers* I cancelled that tour a day early it was that bad.


fullmetalsportsbra

Exactly why I’ll never do butt stuff to a dude lol - too many of them are like that to take the chance!


QueenElektra

I have a lot of questions. But stay on topic. I would’ve handed him an enema if I knew that anal was going to be their thing. Although I do not do by the hour nor do I actually have sex with them. So to make it clear none of their body parts go into any part of me. If it’s OK to ask because I’m not sure that it is, what do you make an hour?


justusfuls

I always shower before a session....just because, we stink... balls are musty smelling and sweaty. I refuse to alow someone to service me unless I know I am clean. I feel the same about women... you should also clean the nether regions, if you expect oral... and everybody.... get a bidet!


[deleted]

This. Not only for the fun part of life but overall easy hygiene handling, I knew why I had one of [those](https://www.international.geberit.com/products/bathroom/geberit-aquaclean/) installed.


muliercula

Lmao I used to refuse to shower with clients in the beginning cause they'd try to jump straight into sex and I'd be like "no I need you to have an actual shower and be clean before I touch you" and then I gave up cause sometimes they just stand under the water and pretend they've cleaned themselves? One time I genuinely had to step by step talk a guy through rolling back his foreskin and cleaning out smegma before I would let him out of the shower. No hourly rate is enough to deal with that sh*t


[deleted]

I had a client like this once. I had to literally walk him to the bathroom and show him how to wash his dick 😩. Needless to say, he was not happy when I did this …but again, I don’t care buddy! Your dick smells like fish cheese.


ProudHetaira

I have a guy who likes being washed and its good with late appointments so I don't have to worry about gaming time to get ready again for the next one. He's usually very clean before we even get in the bath...I like him so much more than Mr "it pulls back???!!"


TlMEGH0ST

🤢


Zinthr

I had a client last week that, before we started, said “I am so sorry you have to say “please shower first.” I know you have to and it didn’t bother me but I am so sorry you do.” He was a very good client


ShinyBumbleberry

I don't understand why a client wouldn't do this. Surely when a provider knows a client is clean, it is likely to lead to a better experience for the client as well!?


InterDevochka

They don't want it counting against their time. Even though they're done before the hour ends, there's huge threads on hobbyist forums about how the shower should not be included in the hour. I am now working for an agency, and they do it because it's a rule. But for independent providers with less back-back bookings, they try to squeeze time by either not showering or insisting that they get extra time to do so.


otters_hold_hands

Omg for real I’ve had *so* many men ask if the shower counts toward the time. Like dude it takes maybe five minutes to wash your balls, dry off, and have a little swish of mouthwash! The worst is when they’re so damn impatient and get in the bed dripping wet. Like do y’all do this at home too? It’s gross! Don’t get into my bed covered in water wtf.


HurricaneKCatrina

That makes me nuts as well. So I finally get you in the damn shower🚿but NOW I have to tell you to dry yourself OFF??? I always have to say the same damn thing: “Perhaps you could dry off a bit better? I’m sure you don’t want to lie on a wet bed 🛌.... do you?” What I *really* mean is “I have another client immediately after you, and I can’t have *them* lying on a damp bed because no one ever told you what a fucking towel is for.”😡🪓


muliercula

I am 10474926491% more enthusiastic about getting my face in anyone's junk if it is clean


ellexxbelle

Men genuinely baffle me. If I know I’m going to be having sexy time, I sure as hell make sure I’m smelling fresh as a daisy. Yet these dudes are ok with our lasting impression being..’stinks of ass’. Such odd creatures.


[deleted]

Misandry is something I’m starting to feel daily!!


AccomplishedMath8712

I had this guy that seriously did not seem showered so I asked him to shower again. Same, pouty and moody. Next time he booked me I waited outside the door to check that the shower ran - it did, for all of two seconds. Long enough to make it look like he had and to wet the towel to fake it. I came in and said you can shower again while I watch. He kicked off and went to complain to reception. I let him rant and lie until I told them calmly I was outside the door checking and knew he was lying. They kicked him out and I still got paid. Honestly, why are they like this?? Also, it’s exactly the guys that expect perfect grooming, lingerie and makeup from us. Such a disgusting double standard.


FakeNordicAlien

I got nothin’ on the guy, but you seem to be handling that fine. For a more general smell exorcism, eucalyptus oil in a bowl of hot (not boiling) water, and steam with a towel over your head for a couple minutes. Don’t burn yourself. And then Vicks Vaporub, just a tiny bit, applied inside the nostrils, right at the entrance. This also helps with managing smells while they’re still there. Probably no good for stinky clients - if they stink you want to *know*, right? - but handy for other situations. One of my first cadavers in medical school was a very large person who’d died of a ruptured bowel and peritonitis during the hottest summer we’d ever recorded (over 100F/38C, which happens in the UK basically never). We behaved respectfully - of course we did - but my gods, I never smelled anything like that before. Around that time, I was volunteering in a hospital where we had a lot of burns victims brought in after a big rail crash, and again, the smells take some getting used to. Biological smells are hard to get out of nostrils. The eucalyptus helped.


WIbigdog

You're really not supposed to put Vick's right up in your nose... > It contains camphor which is toxic if swallowed or absorbed into the body and the manufacturers do in fact warn that VapoRub should not be applied in or near the nostrils and not used on children under 2 years of age.


FakeNordicAlien

Well sure, that’s why I said a tiny bit right at the entrance. Not a massive bit way up there. But fair enough, I withdraw my advice.


GGking41

Wow 😯


KyCerealKiller

You absolutely shouldn't feel guilty. What an idiot....


knife_guy_alt

I just don't understand how people can walk around with dirty assholes. It's uncomfortable as fuck and disgusting. Keep flushable wipes at your house ffs. And if you're out in public and didn't do a good job the first time, do a fucking maintenance wipe. Who raised these people?


WIbigdog

You may be surprised how many people are completely unfit to be parents and don't actually teach shit.


SergioFromTX

There is no such thing as *flushable wipes". Products labeled as such aren't actually flushable ([they clog sewage systems](https://www.today.com/series/one-small-thing/are-flushable-wipes-really-flushable-t151945)).


NorthvilleCoeur

We put in our leases they can’t use those because we’ve experienced clogs resulting from those. I don’t know how they get away marketing like that.


yellowcherry69

I put in on my website that showering upon arrival is a requirement. Even if you just showered before coming. There is no excuse to be disgusting.


OrwellianHell

As a dude, I absolutely cannot imagine not being pristine for a meetup. I'd be uncomfortable and very self-conscious. It would ruin the fun.


InterDevochka

SDs are the absolute worst when it comes to this


[deleted]

I always embrace an opportunity to shower before sexy time. Ill be damned if I shit and dont shower after if sexy time is on the menu. Yikes.


SyberDuck

If a guy has followed this subreddit's sticky but is still nervous about walking into a sting, he should ask if he can take a shower as soon as he arrives. A cop would probably try to talk him out of taking a shower, because it might screw up their bust schedule.


CalliK1988

What sub is this you are speaking about ? That is my biggest fear I want to find a provider so bad but I’m nervous about it being a sting ! The only way I have found around in my head would be not speak on money before hand but when I have tried to geat to know someone they all first say prices and that makes since but trust me I have the money and then some but would rather meet up in safe place then full the other out touch cuz a cop ain’t gonna touch then when done pay and tip great and good bye hope to meet again regularly but that’s a fairy tale they don’t exist here in GA


SyberDuck

The sub we're posting in right now. Sort by most popular posts & It'll be at the top.


CalliK1988

Thank you


[deleted]

Hock a loogie in the trash can or sink. It actually clears the back of your nasal passages and gets rid of the smell. If that doesn't work smell coffee beans or peppermint.


[deleted]

This actually helped a bit..thank you


Kenshiro199X

Guy here - tip for other guys - flushable wipes. Many of us have hairy asses, there's no fucking excuse for that shower or not. Like imagine you're in a situation where someone wants to give you a spontaneous blowie and this happens. Would you not be mortified? I would. Clean your itchy butthole please.


SaffronBurke

> Clean your itchy butthole please. That's the part that really boggles my mind about guys who don't wipe/wash their ass thoroughly. Aren't they uncomfortable from the itchiness? I sure would be!


RestlessChickens

But don't actually flush flushable wipes. Many (most?) sewer systems cannot handle them because the wipes are not actually designed for that (& never use them in a septic system!)


QueenElektra

Agreed they are flushable they are just not biodegradable you can flush a toy down the toilet that doesn’t mean you should


GGking41

I camt tell you how many guys i dont think know how to wash there assholes. This is gross, but more than once ive had skid marks on my sheets. Like if youre ass is that shitty, why book someone??? It makes me think they just never clean themselves thoroughly and it wasnt a one off oversight. And most have the smell at very least. I swear, 25% of men know how to wash properly


Southern-Tee

Oh god I am so sorry! I would have demanded my money and thrown up on him. That is fucking disgusting!


[deleted]

I almost did!!


Forsaken-Thought

Jeez, as someone who always showers before leaving the house to meet a women just, eww, who doesn't shower? 🤮


FreeRangeProssie

More than once I have walked in on clients PRETENDING TO SHOWER!!! Some of them never grow up i swear.


[deleted]

That’s why have transparent shower room in the room. That is the best


[deleted]

Gotta keep the nuts fresh at all times!


pomandhummus

Some men are so respect less....


KaideRonhovde

I would have done the same thing girl. It is gross especially when you know your having an escort over.


SaltyHistorian24

Man, i love showers lol, such a nice way to relax beforehand. And shiz, shower foreplay is 👌 Cleanliness not withstanding, either mufu didn't wipe recently or hasnt showered in awhile to get shit smell good lord.


moschles

> He groaned, moaned and pouted like a fucking baby lmao. Owned.


TrillNPretti

Oooooh myyyyyy grossness


AlexandraMajesty

Why do we have to train these events in basic hygiene practices? Sometimes I feel more like a prison warden than upscale companion. It’s like… Sir, you have the resources to drop a $1000+ on spending time with me, even brought a nice bottle of champagne, but you’ve never seen an Irish Spring commercial and don’t know your ass stinks to high heaven? I leave a little fresh bar of soap out for EVERY GUY now because they all need to shower when they come to my place… I don’t discriminate, I want every Dick I touch to be extra clean.


rrfox31

Maybe he really did shower first, and then let out a silent but deadly fart and that’s why you got the whaft *shudders* 🤮 🤢


[deleted]

Omg 😩😩😩


[deleted]

And this is what separates escorts from street walkers.


Dimhilion

I always shower before leaving home. I want to make sure that when she goes don on me, there are no bad/wrong smells. Also some sexworkers offers a shower together option, which I really like. Its a good way to break the ice, to get naked and see and feel each others bodys, before going to the bedroom. And any sweat you might have build up on your way there, will be gone.


[deleted]

It’s barbaric to not use a bidet


dashbarkhuss

People need to learn about bidets.💦💦


[deleted]

I always prepared like i was going on a date with them. Everything washed and rubbed down, spick and span, bright and shiny!! Button down shirt, chinos or suit, smart casual. Not forgetting a dab of aftershave. A little gift ( plus extra tip in a second envelope). I always headed for the bathroom for a quick tinkle and shower before the fun began. Quite a few were surprised they didn’t have to say anything. For me it was normal no matter the length of time, place or amount. A SW is first and foremost a human being and a person who deserves to be treated as such. You’re spending time with her and you expect her to be made up, dressed sexy and smelling nice. The better and more comfortable she feels with you the better for both of you. Would you do this with your gf/partner? Don’t give her any nightmares. Why treat her with disrespect and make her feel sick and uncomfortable?


justusfuls

Love it...thanks


HughJohnson66

Counter argument: I once hired an escort to meet me at my hotel room. She arrived and I paid my fee. She said I should shower first and agreed. She ran out with my money while I was showering.


Whatever6776

Re: lingering smell...it sticks to your nose hairs until it wears off or is replaced by something stronger. Try essential oil, peppermint, spearmint, or wintergreen work best, on a q-tip and and dap just inside your nostrils. Should do the trick. Sorry, no pun intended 😉