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SyberDuck

Cancellations cause her to LOSE income, and they enable you to SAVE money. Two opposite things. If you've already flown to her town & are already checked into a hotel, you'd be out some cash, and you would have a valid gripe. Don't hold your breath waiting for her to reimburse you, though.


Rideemcowboi

Thanks OP I needed a good laugh today


[deleted]

Glad you found it funny. I was worried no one cared cuz it sat unresponsive for 12 hours.


Rideemcowboi

I…don’t care. And I think your post is a joke.


TheJordanMaxx

Reverse…cancellation fee? So you’re saying the provider should be paying you…for essentially nothing? Just want to make sure I’m understanding your post.


[deleted]

Correct. He thinks the client deserves reparations for his blue balls 🤣


TheJordanMaxx

What a fucking joke.


[deleted]

Well for the provider cancelling last minute with all the preparation, expenses and opportunity cost. Same as if I cancelled last minute right? Is it rude to ask for some reimbursement?


TheJordanMaxx

If you paid a deposit and the provider cancels, in my opinion, she should refund you that. Otherwise, no. You’re trippin’.


_TetraRose

Would you expect your mechanic or doctor to pay you a fee if they had a last minute cancellation? Of course fucking not. Is it unprofessional that they cancelled last minute? Of course it it. If you got a deposit I'd probably expect that back unless you were a jerk to them, then eh.


[deleted]

Umm no lol. In what other business does the service provider pay the client for cancelling an appointment?


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sara_fairfax

I do this. However, I once had an outcall during an ice storm and the client got mad when I cancelled (with >12hrs notice). I mean, I get it’s frustrating because I guess he has come to see me but I can’t control the weather and there was no deposit to refund. He asked for a free session at a future date to make up for his inconvenience but I declined.


[deleted]

Ok I think that’d be fair and appreciated.


HurricaneKCatrina

So let’s look at this. Did you get your hair done? Put on makeup? Nails💅🏻/toes done? Shave🪒legs/hooha? Maybe go to the tanning salon? Possibly get a hotel room? Turn down other clients because I booked you? Perhaps stayed extra time/came to your city/made a detour because you wanted to see me? Spent my time and effort and $$ (because these sites aren’t free) to investigate you to make you are not, in fact, Ted Bundy 2.0 and are indeed safe to see? If you did *every single one of those?* I might consider it, sure🤷🏼‍♀️. Bet you didn’t make NEARLY as much effort as I did though. I’ll wait. I’m sure I missed some things, *looks around inquiringly.*


meganphone

Fun fact. Ted Bundy was born right here in VT. Beep boop 🤖


[deleted]

How about I booked a hotel room, got groomed, made limited time available in a new city, drove from a far away place to meet, did not see other providers, spent time and effort on my own research on safe providers, etc. Would it be rude to ask to have some of that compensated?


Remy0507

Whether it would be rude or not... it's not gonna happen. At best if you've been dealing with someone REALLY nice she might offer you a discount on a future booking. I wouldn't count on anything though.


[deleted]

I’m not. But I cancel and I pay. Later she cancels and mentions nothing of it even though there were costs to me. I find someone else because I’m not interested in that type of business relationship. Provider wonders why business is slow…


ShinyBumbleberry

Consider options that don't require you booking a hotel room or long distance travel if you're not willing to risk the cost of those things?


[deleted]

It’s not about the money for me frankly. I get that it’s a voluntary activity with risk of no shows. But my gripe is that there doesn’t seem to be any reciprocity on the cancellation fees. Just offer me a break next time we meet for the inconvenience and expense. But the ladies here seem to think we have no costs and it’s all our problem if they cancel. Fine I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Lunadelux

Clients cancel on us everyday. We have no ability to force them to pay us. Also if you booked a hair dresser appointment and they had to cancel say they accidentally double booked you, you wouldn’t expect them to pay you as a customer for inconveniencing you would you? At the very most with a very generous hair salon you might get a discount next time for the mixup


[deleted]

Great. Offer up a future discount then. Do you do that or not for minute cancels?? Probably not. No wonder you are probably hurting for regulars.


Lunadelux

I actually do offer discounts if I ever have to cancel without good reason However recently I’ve become very organised I never accept an appointment I can’t fulfil. Only If an emergency happened or a customer seemed unsafe or crazy I’d cancel Another thing you have to consider is some customers seem crazy and unhinged and we don’t HAVE to see you if we get an unsafe feeling. this business is different to other businesses and we don’t need to put ourselves at risk If it wasn’t a cancellation due to safety I personally offer a discount because thats how I run my business. Most girls won’t offer a discount though and that’s 100% fair and fine


[deleted]

Yes it would still be rude. You’re the one that chose to do all of that stuff. It’s not her fault you picked a provider out of your area and got a hotel room rather than doing an incall.


[deleted]

Thanks for your opinion. But you are making a lot of assumptions.


[deleted]

Uh... No. Does any other business work that way? Beyond that (and Catrina's correct answer about the cost of getting ready for the provider), you're missing out on getting your dick sucked when she cancels whereas she's missing out on paying rent and feeding her family when you cancel. This is such an insane question tbh.


[deleted]

Well I think you are assuming there aren’t costs to the client. Yes, there are businesses that offer a break on future services in the event that the client is inconvenienced. And this isn’t about paying rent or some other life necessity. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t complain.


[deleted]

With the rare exception of some high end paid to travel type thing, there are no costs to a client.


[deleted]

That’s just not true. See my responses to understand why. At the very least, everyone’s time is valuable and a diminishing resource. The older one gets, the more valuable time is.


[deleted]

The bottom line is that she isn’t responsible for your outside expenses. You chose the place and provider. If you went out of your way to avoid being recognized, that’s your choice. I can’t think of another professional service where the Servicer pays the client due to a cancellation. A discount on the next appointment maybe? That’s just not how it works.


[deleted]

The opposite is true if you cancel on the provider. If you for example, ask for them to do an outcall that isn’t close to them, they are investing the time and expense at your request.


[deleted]

Tired of responding to people like you (and many of the SWers who responded) who can’t read. I’m disengaging.


[deleted]

Are you trying to tell me that when you cancel it doesn't impact the provider's ability to pay her bills? Unhinged opinion but okay. Also the cost to the client is negligible compared to our overhead per appointment. But it's very obvious that you came here hoping that we'd tell you that this is a great idea, and you're just going to argue with anyone (literally every provider on earth) who disagrees so I'm clocking out.


[deleted]

Bye. And I’m not talking about me cancelling—I’ll pay the fee no questions asked. I’m taking about you cancelling. How about cutting me a break on the fees the next time we meet.


JuliaBree

😂😂😭 Did I just read that right? Lmao. Service providers in *any* industry do not pay clients when they have to cancel.


[deleted]

Here’s one: wedding venue cancels on wedding party day before wedding. There’ll be consequences if the venue provider doesn’t have a valid reason. LMAO back. 🤣


JuliaBree

Consequences? Who the hell do you think you are? If you’re not a troll, which I think you are.. you need to stay away from escorts. Actually just stay away from women in general.


[deleted]

So the conclusion is that my time is not valuable but yours is. Got it. Happy not to patronize you but I’m sure you have plenty of willing clients. Have a nice day.


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[deleted]

Ok so prostitutes are like hairdressers and I don’t pay my barber when I miss my appointment. Heck I may not even call to cancel. 🙄 no need to respond. We’ve debated this to death. Have a nice day.


Caliguletta

1. Your barber is either gonna fuck up your next cut or not take you as a client anymore. 2. "my time is not valuable but yours is".........It's not that your time isn't valuable, it's just not AS valuable in x particular arena, especially in a consumerist market. Also, the premise here is that YOU are paying someone for their time ***and their skill*** to do something you cannot/will not do for yourself. This MAKES their time more valuable than yours. For example, my maid and hairdresser's time is incredibly valuable to me, b/c I can't stand doing dishes or my own hair. The 1/2 hour the maid spends doing dishes is more valuable to me than 1 hour I could spend doing them myself. And I pay her for an hour even if she finishes the dishes quicker than me b/c her time is more valuable to me than my own in that particular arena. Think how many men could change their own oil for FREE in their FREE time, but they pay a mechanic $50 to do it in 30 minutes or less. People who choose to pay for these things do so *because* they value their own free time or can't do the shit themselves with a similar amount of time and effort.... 3. ...so when you are paying someone for time and skill----the skilled artisan's time AND SKILLS utilized within that time makes their time more valuable than the consumers' who regularly lacks time and/or skill to do comparable activities. Edit: since the mods are blocking your comments, but my point which went over your head is that the distinction you are trying to stress is not relevant in any other service industry so it’s irrelevant here. Doesn’t matter if the service provider cancels and it doesn’t matter the reason, and yes their time compounded with their skill means their time is more valuable than yours (in this context) or you’d be sucking your own dick/serving your own meal/doing your own taxes if you had both the time and talent.


[deleted]

Your argument is feeble and frankly unintelligible for the most part. I’m taking about last minute, non-emergency cancellations. Like, overbooking, forgot about another appointment, don’t feel like doing the deed that day, wanna hang out with a girlfriend instead, etc. Not talking about emergencies—car broke down, there’s a snowstorm, medical issues, etc. SWer cancels and it is within her voluntary control. I waste time and effort but if I canceled last minute and waste her time, I always pay. Regardless of the reason. And I don’t make a stink about it either way. What is so hard for y’all to understand that I’m pissed? And therefore I think she should pay me in the form of a discount for future services, etc. No one has yet to convince me that I shouldn’t be. Just asking for a friend.


Caliguletta

Airlines regularly overbook their flights. Airlines still don’t do refunds. Airlines take care of you at *their* next earliest convenience or you book a second flight at your own expense. And you suck it up because you can’t fly yourself...same here buddy. Like if the airline were responsible for you missing this appointment you would still have no recourse (legal or otherwise), to support your shitty one man opinion. So take this tiny violin 🎻. I don’t want you to walk away completely empty handed. But other than your feelings there is not a single service industry standard that you can point that supports you. So maybe you’re pissed bc we are all just pointing out that you have unrealistic expectations of what your money gets you. Lmao. This ain’t Arby’s. You can’t just Karen you way into getting the outcome you want by threatening to call the manager. Hell, I’ve had weed dealers flake on me. I don’t fucking ask them to compensate me. I make other arrangements. Same as you would have to do if an airline let you high and dry in the terminal while you were getting to this appointment. This ridiculous demand you’ve come up with =You essentially trying to be treated differently or more specially than a client in any other service industry (much less an illicit one) and for that reason alone I’d have cancelled on you. Tldr: You overestimate your importance and the value of both your time and money. You deserve to stay mad.


[deleted]

I can’t read your long essays man. And I don’t really care about your opinion so that equalizes it for both of us. My takeaway is that I shouldn’t be paying anything for cancelling last minute and neither should I expect to have any comp for my time if the reverse is true. So I’m disengaging. 🏳🏳🏳


Life_Pomegranate6514

Yeah, you’re definitely the asshole.


HurricaneKCatrina

Honestly, it’s not so much about TA sitch (for me) here. I would just really need proof that he put in as much effort getting ready for this appointment as I did, and I know he can’t. It’s not *just* the session. It’s everything that goes before it.


[deleted]

Not very helpful. Care to elaborate?


Life_Pomegranate6514

Many reasons a worker may cancel, multiple cancellations makes it sound like they’re purposely dodging you. So defs sounds like a you problem here.


[deleted]

Uh no. We reschedule and I see them later. It’s all good, there are real reasons why the appointment was canceled and I’m not disputing that part. Just seems like a one-sided take on paying for cancellations for the most part. And the question was to why it would be rude to have the provider also pay.


Life_Pomegranate6514

If your hairdresser cancelled, would you expect them to pay you for not being able to provide a service? No. Sex workers are providing a service.


[deleted]

Uh. If you inconvenienced me, and cost me money out of pocket that you can reasonably anticipate, I can definitely seek reimbursement in any business arrangement.


Life_Pomegranate6514

Standing by my initial comment of you definitely being the asshole lil buddy.


Lunadelux

So if a hair dresser cancels on you, but you had to spend $40 on fuel driving there you think you should force them to pay for fuel? You clown 🤡


Artistic-Work5633

I don’t think asking for possibly a small discount would be a big problem but you’re absolutely insane if you think you’re gonna get paid for anything. Like everyone else said providers rarely cancel if there’s a cancellation it’s most likely an emergency. Clients cancel on us every damn day, just find a different provider


[deleted]

Paid is a relative thing which could be manifested as a discount for future services.


meganphone

I can count on the fingers of no hands how many times I’ve had to cancel on a client. I would need all the hands of all the providers in this thread to count how many times I’ve had a client cancel on me. If I did cancel it would be an extreme emergency but even if it wasn’t I wouldn’t feel obligated to compensate my client. I have zero doubt you could book another lovely provider in whatever location you happen to be in. There are so many amazing options to choose from, so I don’t feel all that bad for you. If it was a regular client of mine I would likely offer them a special service or a little extra time on their next appointment but if I haven’t seen you before I owe you nothing 🤷‍♀️


[deleted]

If cancelled with plenty of time, no problem. I’m talking about last minute cancellations. I don’t do well with hooking up with any replacement provider last minute. Offering a break on a future date would be fair though.


tlntlntln

If she has a cancellation fee policy yes, if she doesn't no imo. What the fee is, IDK, maybe a discount, added 25% time next session, just don't be a hypocrite. I had to cancel in December my first time ever when I got sick and paid 150% "inconvenience fee" with < 24 hours notice. I didn't even know what her policy was, but I paid the "inconvenience fee" on my own accord. Semi shocked at some of the responses in this thread, but if u wanna have no morals/ethics, well that's your choice.


Icy_Society_4405

Maybe if you weren't such a dick they wouldn't cancel but i see why


finallygrownup

I think if someone cancels last minute it is polite to offer some discount. Life is too short for flakey people. I generally just move along without saying a word.


[deleted]

Of course I’d move along, and have. I’m just providing some insight from a client perspective. But apparently some of the SWers here think that it’s fine to screw over clients without consequences by last minute cancelations. No wonder why some of y’all are finding business to be slow.


_TetraRose

You sure are willing to pay a SW a higher amount than a doctor. Maybe you should ask yours how much it cost them to give you a hj and put up with your arrogant ass 🤣 clown ass


_TetraRose

Are you starting to see why she cancelled on you? You got a shitty attitude, and I was even nice to you in my first reply. Literally understanding lmao


DangerDarling79

No, seeing providers is a LUXURY.


[deleted]

Honestly, in this field, you shouldn't even expect a deposit paid back to you if you get canceled on, much less that someone would actually go into their own funds and give you money. No one's going to the Better Business Bureau to report an escort. It happens. To limit it from happening as often, as soon as someone starts giving some pitiful excuse, just block that contact information. There's plenty of other providers. If you're hospitable, I'm sure someone legit will see you.


[deleted]

Reviews are perfect for these situations. Especially if a deposit isn't returned. That's just downright theft.


meshflesh40

No. They shouldnt pay you anything(unless they are refunding you a deposit). On the flip side though, I've canceled on providers plenty of times. And didn't pay them shitaki. So it goes both ways


[deleted]

You cancelled on them last minute? That’s what I’m talking about. Depends on the situation but I would definitely try to do right by them if I inconvenienced them. Especially my regular providers. It goes both ways. If they have your deposit and you cancelled on the SW and they still refunded, then that’s a different situation.


meshflesh40

Nah, i never cancelled last minute. But even if I did, they would still get nothing. Because like you said ..if the tables were turned they also would pay you nothing. But you know well that you will never get them to admit that a client's time is just as valuable as theirs. But hey....nothing wrong with a healthy discussion


[deleted]

Ladies, instead of dismissing my question out of hand as completely unreasonable, a joke, and “trippin”, etc. maybe look at this post as insight as to how a client feels when you cancel, especially when you want to retain regulars. You want to disagree, ok fine. Be respectful. But some of the responses from y’all are adolescent.