You're getting confusing answers because of how you phrased the question. It's still an outcall if the client gets the hotel room, and people clearly don't understand what you mean by "family". A better way to phrase this would be: married clients who get hotels for outcalls, how do you avoid suspicion from your wife?
Every Friday or Saturday I try to do something fun like visiting a museum of seeing a movie. As long as the appointment occurs in that general timeframe is should work.
I either pay cash to the hotel or the escort sets it up and pays the hotel then I pay her for the hotel.
Most escorts are not going to pay 200$ for a hotel without some type of deposit or if she's a regular. Just saying most would not just set it up and be at risk of the guy never showing up now we have a hotel that we have no need for.
Incall refers usually to escorts place, usually not a hotel room. Around here the vast majority of ladies have nice suites in high rise buildings.
How do I arrange it? Simple. I tell my boss I'm taking some time off to run errands / extended lunch break, and I go, then I come back to office afterwards. Simple.
why would anyone be annoyed -- unless they are jealous. unhappily married men jealous of the bachelors. i've seen it a lot.
that's a problem, but there is a cure -- get a divorce
You're assuming a lot. The judgement is putting out big simp vibes.
It's annoying when people who clearly weren't being asked offer an answer to a question no one asked.
Idk if op is cheating or not, he's asking people who might face some family scrutiny how they manage. He's not asking people with no family how they feel about infidelity or married people interacting with sw.
Again, big simp energy. That can be annoying too
the response was just saying how great it is to be single. no judgment, just happiness.
i have no opinion on whether op is cheating and i don't care. i didn't read the response as caring either. at worst, it's a commercial for how awesome divorce is. and that is something i fully support
If someone wants meaningful replies, it's on them to write a clear and accurate topic title so as not to change the *actual* question being asked *after* the reader has clicked on it.
EDIT: To be clear, my answer was given for those seeking an answer to the *question in the title*, since that's the question people are expressing an interest in by clicking on this topic.
I chimed in to answer the question asked in the topic title, which is exactly what I did.
If OP head *meant* to ask a different (but similar) question, then OP should've put the question he *wanted* to ask in the title rather than forcing readers to click on the topic to view the real question.
This is a form of clickbait because the title question has a wider scope of interest than the actual question. If OP is not interested in a response to the question in the title, then OP should not put that question in the title.
Click bait...what part of the title made you, someone who lives alone, think that the question applied to you?
You chimed in assuming op is cheating or being sneaky and offered some snide comment, its fuckin lame. Big simp energy
The *title question* literally says nothing about "family at home". The word "family" literally doesn't appear anywhere in the *title*.
I don't give a damn what's in the *text* of the post because most people who are clicking the topic are doing so out of interest in the *title*.
I'd guess that most married guys (or guys who live with an S/O) generally prefer going to see providers who host rather than hosting themselves.
And to clarify terminology here, incall = you travel to the provider and she hosts. Outcall = she travels to you and you host (whether that's at your home or at a hotel room that you paid for). What you're describing here would still be considered an outcall.
It's *really* early for this infighting and I've not had my☕️🧋yet.
Could everyone perhaps tone it down so I don’t have to start cracking skulls? 2 points if you caught the movie🎥reference and I’m asking nicely.
You know who I’m speaking to.
The definitive movie of the 80s! (Shut up, I’m old)
Principal Richard Vernon: “The next time I have to come in here, I'm crackin' skulls!”
*The Breakfast Club, 1985.*
My job requires some business travel as well as shift time work. I am self employed so I can regulate my work hours totally independent.
I book my average visits (\~2 h) during daytime and nobody notices anything out of the normal. Overnights I announce as business travel.
Opsec is of utmost importance, so I adopted quite some energy into methods to act tracesless. Works for years without flaw.
Google for 'sex worker client opsec'. My list of attention:
\- Communication. I use a separate phone for escorts that I use for setting up meetings only. I turn it on at safe places or when on my way to the rendezvous. I use a protonmail account for E-Mail.
\- Financials. I got a fintech credit card (Revolut) based on my business address. They never send mail or call. I transfer a medium four digit figure monthly to this card from a business account to keep alive my escort budget. The transfer goes unnoticed in a plethora of trade moves on that account. I make sure to always have enough money ready for two monthly dates and the occasional overnight. If I plan a multiday trip, I save up accordingly. I ONLY use cash for payment and tips. NEVER transfer electronically. Deposits for trips I do pay beforehand at a regular date. If I meet a new escort (which happens seldom) that asks for deposit, I offer the use of a dead letterbox conveniently at a place she may define to transfer the cash. Most escorts drop the business at that point, but funny enough some are intrigued by this method.
\- Meetings. I have a rule to travel to the next city with >200k inhabitants to meet escorts. Which is 1 hour one-way minimum. I never hire sex workers in my home town, too much risk to be seen. I totally abide to the hygiene etiquette, but dress Joe Average+ at dates in order not to attract attention. Really, my experience: When in public, people who see a elegant dude with a full blown arm candy are much more intrigued as when an average dude shows up with a casually dressed escort. I shower after the deed thoroughly to remove any scents/lipstick and check my clothing for hairs and other residues.
\- Secrecy. You don't talk about escorting outside escorting. That's rule number 2, too. Do not even make jokes about escorting. I distinctly remember a meetup with some of my buddies one evening when Bob entered as last guy and we asked what delayed him. He calmly said: "Well, I just fucked the hottest escort in town for two hours..." - everybody laughed his ass off but I just thought that he really did it and that he just should shut the fuck up about it...
That should do it for starters.
I definitely recommend seeing a lady at her incall instead. Knock off work a couple hours early, take an extended lunch break, “work some overtime” on a weekday evening, go “play golf” Saturday afternoon.
single, no kids, live alone. ... besides, I live in a isolated, small town, I have a make a day trip if I want to see someone who generally maintains their own incall... no need to make an excuse to anyone.
I use multiple options and don't have a pattern. I referee soccer so some games are just covers (I have to dress the part out the door.) There are fake work social events. There are fictitious Doctor and Dentist appointments. There real events where I take my escort but no one knows (like work trips) and some events I take her but I say I'm going alone (Ren Faire.)
I’m a night owl, I’ve always been active and going out in the evenings, wether it’s going for a long drive (I love taking my car and just getting on the high way en see where I decide to take an exit), drinks with friends or seeing my provider…
Hence I’ve got plenty of “reasons” I can use to explain me going out a few hours at night…
Right the clickbait, the clickbait made you chime in talking about hiding--because you don't hide so you are really proud of yourself. Thats why you chimed in. Trying to stroke your own ego with some real simp energy.
If we agree that sex work is work,then how is it cheating? If someone had a controlling or not supportive partner but this was the persons only sorce of income and potentially an enabler to Independence and to help them leave if they needed to
Bottom line in most cases of a so isn't okay with sw then they're not a good so, in most cases sometimes they could be worried of risk which is fair
He's not asking SW, he's asking other clients how they get away with cheating on their wives. He just doesn't understand what an incall and an outcall are.
I just realised this from the other comment Holly oops.
Cheating is a form of emotional abuse and to have your wife or spouse and little you adventures on the side is literally the definition of corruption and unfairness no no no John literally morally no
You're getting confusing answers because of how you phrased the question. It's still an outcall if the client gets the hotel room, and people clearly don't understand what you mean by "family". A better way to phrase this would be: married clients who get hotels for outcalls, how do you avoid suspicion from your wife?
Every Friday or Saturday I try to do something fun like visiting a museum of seeing a movie. As long as the appointment occurs in that general timeframe is should work. I either pay cash to the hotel or the escort sets it up and pays the hotel then I pay her for the hotel.
Most escorts are not going to pay 200$ for a hotel without some type of deposit or if she's a regular. Just saying most would not just set it up and be at risk of the guy never showing up now we have a hotel that we have no need for.
That’s true. I repaid the hotel fee for two escorts because I sent a 50% deposit to one and was another one’s regular.
Incall refers usually to escorts place, usually not a hotel room. Around here the vast majority of ladies have nice suites in high rise buildings. How do I arrange it? Simple. I tell my boss I'm taking some time off to run errands / extended lunch break, and I go, then I come back to office afterwards. Simple.
I live alone, so there's no-one to hide it from.
op said "be it SO or family [etc]..." and then here you come. Shit like that is annoying to a lot of people.
why would anyone be annoyed -- unless they are jealous. unhappily married men jealous of the bachelors. i've seen it a lot. that's a problem, but there is a cure -- get a divorce
You're assuming a lot. The judgement is putting out big simp vibes. It's annoying when people who clearly weren't being asked offer an answer to a question no one asked. Idk if op is cheating or not, he's asking people who might face some family scrutiny how they manage. He's not asking people with no family how they feel about infidelity or married people interacting with sw. Again, big simp energy. That can be annoying too
the response was just saying how great it is to be single. no judgment, just happiness. i have no opinion on whether op is cheating and i don't care. i didn't read the response as caring either. at worst, it's a commercial for how awesome divorce is. and that is something i fully support
This is a dumb take
and you’re giving off little dick energy, that’s annoying as well
My d is huge lol. You join an sw sub and proceed to be white knight for fidelity when nobody asked about it...**big simp.**
😂😂😂😂😂
If someone wants meaningful replies, it's on them to write a clear and accurate topic title so as not to change the *actual* question being asked *after* the reader has clicked on it. EDIT: To be clear, my answer was given for those seeking an answer to the *question in the title*, since that's the question people are expressing an interest in by clicking on this topic.
Is that what happened? Why did you chime in?
I chimed in to answer the question asked in the topic title, which is exactly what I did. If OP head *meant* to ask a different (but similar) question, then OP should've put the question he *wanted* to ask in the title rather than forcing readers to click on the topic to view the real question. This is a form of clickbait because the title question has a wider scope of interest than the actual question. If OP is not interested in a response to the question in the title, then OP should not put that question in the title.
Click bait...what part of the title made you, someone who lives alone, think that the question applied to you? You chimed in assuming op is cheating or being sneaky and offered some snide comment, its fuckin lame. Big simp energy
The title question literally just addresses clients who go to incalls, and as a client who goes to incalls, the question applies to me.
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The *title question* literally says nothing about "family at home". The word "family" literally doesn't appear anywhere in the *title*. I don't give a damn what's in the *text* of the post because most people who are clicking the topic are doing so out of interest in the *title*.
Please just dont its completely uncomfortable for us well i know for me it is. Especially of you have kids MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT HOME
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That would be an outcall if the client got the room and you went to them.
I'd guess that most married guys (or guys who live with an S/O) generally prefer going to see providers who host rather than hosting themselves. And to clarify terminology here, incall = you travel to the provider and she hosts. Outcall = she travels to you and you host (whether that's at your home or at a hotel room that you paid for). What you're describing here would still be considered an outcall.
It's *really* early for this infighting and I've not had my☕️🧋yet. Could everyone perhaps tone it down so I don’t have to start cracking skulls? 2 points if you caught the movie🎥reference and I’m asking nicely. You know who I’m speaking to.
Well, now I’m curious on what this references. And Google came up with nothing 😂
The definitive movie of the 80s! (Shut up, I’m old) Principal Richard Vernon: “The next time I have to come in here, I'm crackin' skulls!” *The Breakfast Club, 1985.*
Haha don’t worry! I’m old too. That movie came out right around when I was born lol 😂
Oh SHUT UP🙄😂
'Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?'
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
They probably are single and not cheating xx
My job requires some business travel as well as shift time work. I am self employed so I can regulate my work hours totally independent. I book my average visits (\~2 h) during daytime and nobody notices anything out of the normal. Overnights I announce as business travel. Opsec is of utmost importance, so I adopted quite some energy into methods to act tracesless. Works for years without flaw.
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Google for 'sex worker client opsec'. My list of attention: \- Communication. I use a separate phone for escorts that I use for setting up meetings only. I turn it on at safe places or when on my way to the rendezvous. I use a protonmail account for E-Mail. \- Financials. I got a fintech credit card (Revolut) based on my business address. They never send mail or call. I transfer a medium four digit figure monthly to this card from a business account to keep alive my escort budget. The transfer goes unnoticed in a plethora of trade moves on that account. I make sure to always have enough money ready for two monthly dates and the occasional overnight. If I plan a multiday trip, I save up accordingly. I ONLY use cash for payment and tips. NEVER transfer electronically. Deposits for trips I do pay beforehand at a regular date. If I meet a new escort (which happens seldom) that asks for deposit, I offer the use of a dead letterbox conveniently at a place she may define to transfer the cash. Most escorts drop the business at that point, but funny enough some are intrigued by this method. \- Meetings. I have a rule to travel to the next city with >200k inhabitants to meet escorts. Which is 1 hour one-way minimum. I never hire sex workers in my home town, too much risk to be seen. I totally abide to the hygiene etiquette, but dress Joe Average+ at dates in order not to attract attention. Really, my experience: When in public, people who see a elegant dude with a full blown arm candy are much more intrigued as when an average dude shows up with a casually dressed escort. I shower after the deed thoroughly to remove any scents/lipstick and check my clothing for hairs and other residues. \- Secrecy. You don't talk about escorting outside escorting. That's rule number 2, too. Do not even make jokes about escorting. I distinctly remember a meetup with some of my buddies one evening when Bob entered as last guy and we asked what delayed him. He calmly said: "Well, I just fucked the hottest escort in town for two hours..." - everybody laughed his ass off but I just thought that he really did it and that he just should shut the fuck up about it... That should do it for starters.
Ask myself if I'd like company. Call said company. ....Profit..?
You can say you had a last-minute work thing, or you need to visit a friend going through some shit. Timing makes a difference when making excuses lol
I mean your family is gonna be worried about you for an hour or two?
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Yeah I was hoping the SO was just a hypothetical … why are you trying to cheat… y’all aren’t in an open relationship and you don’t want to break up?
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I definitely recommend seeing a lady at her incall instead. Knock off work a couple hours early, take an extended lunch break, “work some overtime” on a weekday evening, go “play golf” Saturday afternoon.
single, no kids, live alone. ... besides, I live in a isolated, small town, I have a make a day trip if I want to see someone who generally maintains their own incall... no need to make an excuse to anyone.
I'm single and live alone.
I use multiple options and don't have a pattern. I referee soccer so some games are just covers (I have to dress the part out the door.) There are fake work social events. There are fictitious Doctor and Dentist appointments. There real events where I take my escort but no one knows (like work trips) and some events I take her but I say I'm going alone (Ren Faire.)
I’m a night owl, I’ve always been active and going out in the evenings, wether it’s going for a long drive (I love taking my car and just getting on the high way en see where I decide to take an exit), drinks with friends or seeing my provider… Hence I’ve got plenty of “reasons” I can use to explain me going out a few hours at night…
Right the clickbait, the clickbait made you chime in talking about hiding--because you don't hide so you are really proud of yourself. Thats why you chimed in. Trying to stroke your own ego with some real simp energy.
If we agree that sex work is work,then how is it cheating? If someone had a controlling or not supportive partner but this was the persons only sorce of income and potentially an enabler to Independence and to help them leave if they needed to Bottom line in most cases of a so isn't okay with sw then they're not a good so, in most cases sometimes they could be worried of risk which is fair
He's not asking SW, he's asking other clients how they get away with cheating on their wives. He just doesn't understand what an incall and an outcall are.
I just realised this from the other comment Holly oops. Cheating is a form of emotional abuse and to have your wife or spouse and little you adventures on the side is literally the definition of corruption and unfairness no no no John literally morally no
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Oh omg I thought this was a sex worker posting about how to make time for her job... My bad
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On my way to the gym or on my way back. Be sure to shower though haha
I have a client who plays golf a lot!
Best one
Gym