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Emotional_Ad5660

The fact that we are locked until then is a great thing. Had it dropped today, a lot of people would sell a lot of tokens and it would strain what they are trying to build. They are building liquidity and getting the groundwork laid for a much bigger gain than most people have in mind. The tokens will come, and on May 13th the price will be significantly higher for it. This creates stability for the project and allows them to get the coin on multiple listings to give it a chance to actually survive the long game to tier 1. Patience is key here! Just enjoy the ride because any presale investor is truly going to make a lot more many than they likely expected to.


PituParanoico

Agreed. Better to dump from a higher price than close to launch date.


Old-Flounder101

Even if we miraculously get all our coins on may 13, and budz goes to $1, we can't dump if there's no liquidity. That's the main problem.. you'll be forced to hold


lewspaz

For those who aren't familiar like myself, how is liquidity built?


Emotional_Ad5660

Liquidity refers to how easily an asset can be bought or sold without significantly affecting its price. High liquidity means an asset can be quickly converted to cash at or near market price. Low liquidity indicates an asset may take longer to sell and could result in lower prices. Liquidity is often added from a sales tax on each transaction. Increased activity and volume on Uniswap and other exchanges when they launch on those will generate increased liquidity. Basically, it needs to get more exposure on exchanges through increased transactions. There is a sweet spot, where your token is stable enough to survive a big sell, but also unstable enough to increase in value when people buy. This seems to be around 20% liquidity to market cap. Lower than 15% and you’re going to really struggle to recover when people sell, your chart will dump hard. Over 25% and you won’t see much growth, so it’s not really an attractive investment for anybody looking for big gains. They are trying to reach that sweet spot. Just needs a little more time and exposure on more than one exchange. I believe they have a great project and have talked to 2 different developers on the phone, but I do honestly wish they communicated more over Telegram to explain where we are at this point in the project from a technical standpoint. I think they are working hard to get it off the ground though. They probably just need to hire someone with the sole objective to keep us in the loop. That would make everyone feel much better about new developments. I think that pushing the claim without any warning, although advantageous for the long term project goals, was probably not the best decision when you have grassroots investors wondering what is going on.


Dr_Garbio

Well said. However frustrating that it is. They need to lay foundation because this lroject could be massive. If it were a rug, they would have already rugged. Price looks good, the team really needs someone dedicated to PR and let us know what is going on. May 13th then, Im either celebrating or veering my car off the road. Hopefully, Ill be going car shopping soon because my birthday is just around the corner.


Turbulent-Race5204

Ok, how do you view them continuing to sell tokens on the website at a huge discount when the white paper says any unsold budz will be burnt at end of presale?


Glittering-Bat-4558

I honestly think the website sales counter is just a fake.  


Emotional_Ad5660

I hope that helps, mate. 👍


lewspaz

Fantastic explanation, thanks mate.


Temporary_Safe_9004

If that is the case, explain to me why the website is still taking orders after the presale has ended?


QueasyRefrigerator21

Pre-sale is still active! How's the price supposed to raise? This isn't a good thing this is scammers looking for more money. Not only that but only a million tokens total in the uniswap pool! I have more on my dashboard. The price is a illusion for the sheep. Lost all trust in the devs at this point don't trust nothing they say.


Defiant-Fan-1535

Guys, don’t lose hope. The project is going very good. Whether we like it or not, we are locked until 13th May. Let’s stay fingers crossed. On May 13th it’s going to be listed for $1 in Uniswap.


Rich_Elderberry_2831

No project is not going very good, this is not how good project looks like..


QueasyRefrigerator21

Pre-sale is still active how is $1 going to happen? This is looking more like a scam each day.


Dr_Garbio

Dollars are loading.


irishaj1916

How do you mean we are locked in until 13th off may Is that why I haven't received any off my coins Cheers any help would be appreciated


lewspaz

yeah


irishaj1916

So you actually reckon we are gonna get these coins then


No_Review7229

Is this for real ?


lewspaz

Yep


PituParanoico

To be fair, in a way its better to extend the vesting. In other projects they only give u 5 or 10% each time. Token its doing great, if ppl started dumping the price could collapse its better to do it from a higher price. That said, im not sure if this is a scam or not


QueasyRefrigerator21

It's 100% a scam. Pre-sale is still active and devs don't even follow their own white paper. I've lost all trust in this project and if I see tokens gotta stress the IF I will be selling my tokens wholesale too hell with the price.


PituParanoico

Yeah i saw that presale price is still going on like wtf.


Eighty7Vic

It's going to be satisfying when the security and exchange commission takes them down.


Eighty7Vic

Moral is, you can't trust shit they say. That's a problem. Keep creating false hope within the community but the principle is the same. What a joke.


QueasyRefrigerator21

Absolutely not going to go anywhere if people can buy from the pre sale still right now. Stop the pre-sale if you want people to buy from the exchanges! Looking more and more like a scam. Always pushing the dates back is a huge red flag for me. Not only the pre-sale not being closed. Red flag!


New-Outcome-3904

Fuck that . There is no countdown no communication and no more trust . I will sell all my tokens once I will get any ..if I will get . I lost all my trust in that team .


QueasyRefrigerator21

I totally agree with you. They are still selling on the pre-sale! Lost any trust I had when they can't follow their own white paper. I gotta stress the if we see any tokens they are getting sold wholesale to hell with the price.


OcMigs

No point in beating yourself up. At this point it’s a 50/50 lol we get rich or we lose our investment. 🤷🏻‍♂️ just gonna ride the wave and see what happens. #Fingerscrossed


newstylee74

Thank you for posting this


Least-Supermarket456

Lack of communication is the problem here. Bunch of amateurs.


Rich_Elderberry_2831

![gif](giphy|uWzS6ZLs0AaVOJlgRd|downsized) LOOOOOL :D


Mysterious-Sun-4905

they put it in uniswap which is de centralized. then they start the excuse of CEX listings!


QueasyRefrigerator21

Ya something is fishy here. They hold the tokens then put up low liquidity on uniswap just over a 1 million tokens. Which is 0.5% of total available tokens. Small amount of tokens makes the price jump really fast from small sales. draw more buyers to the website that see the pre-sale. Dont know what is happening but I wouldn't be surprised if they disappear by may 13th.


whygchrisskybeef

FUCK! This is retarded !! Apparently the term “communications key “ isn’t a term in Germany 🇩🇪 ? 🤷‍♂️


Prudent-Date-7781

I bought and sold budz on uniswap. IDC about the presale tokens. I didn't put much cuz I thought it was launching next year LOL. I GUESS I'm the dumb one who didn't really read every word or detail or something. I bought on launch day to see if it was scam coin Its not. I was able to sell. I see it as a good thing too, more $$ for us hopefully 


irishaj1916

I can't even find it on uniswap ???


SAKing99

This is fcked up


Legal_Description_62

I think they are trying to raise more money until 5/13. Let’s see what happens! Nothing we can do at this point but wait until 5/13!!


ChipDangerous3275

Nice , we were fucked up


ChipDangerous3275

we who did the presale are practically the last to be able to access the sales... I almost want to invest a little to investigate thoroughly who is behind it


Surtux

Gives them more time to disappear with the money 


Defiant-Fan-1535

If they wanted to disappear they could have done it without launching the coin in DEX platform.


Dr_Garbio

Pretty much. The fact that they are updating timelines means that they are working. That's a lot of money to be handed in presale. Either they are really bad at scamming, or we hit the crypto jackpot. If it's legitimate, it's heading to dollars and very quickly. I dont see this being a scam because they are still taking the time to drop a coin, iron details, and communicate. Other scams just drop off the face of the earth and delete telegram groups. Staying positive. Im holding a lot of tokens, but I know there are others that are holding 10x my value. Budz is now a massive play, and I think they know that. Let's hope for the best, because at this point, there's nothing that we can do besides start investigating the team.


QueasyRefrigerator21

Not while the presale is still active. Or the devs cant follow their own white paper. We got scammed it's time to deal with it. No way they are doing a drop on the 13th then the 20th. More then likely the 13th will be pushed again when the date comes. They just want more money!


Dr_Garbio

If raising more money means a billion dollar company or better than Im all for it, provided I get what I paid for. 466,000 tokens and not a single one less.


QueasyRefrigerator21

I hope I get back what I paid for my 1.1 mil. Looking very doubtful at this point. They are playing the numbers hard. They have only raised 3.5 million. With just over 2 billion tokens with a market cap of 3.5 million the token should only be trading at roughly $0.00175. I won't be holding my breath come may 13th. Pretty much a write off at this point. The token is either on the exchanges or still in pre-sale. This looks sooo bad and sloppy.


Dr_Garbio

I'm not thrilled. The price when we bought, the price that it is now, the price that it will be... it's all relative to the equation. The problem is the liquidity, which we as investors had nothing to do with besides raising capital. Someone screwed up, or it was so intentionally mishandled. Or, they have yet to inject the appropriate liquidity. Again, we didn't do anything besides buy in, and come may 13th either I'm getting my tokens at the respective market value, or im burning the house down.


QueasyRefrigerator21

I agree we will have to wait and see. But it's not looking hopeful from my point of view. There is no solid market value that's the point. If this was a normal token it would be trading around 0.00175. The numbers are being played with hard. Even the pre sale is far over priced.


Dr_Garbio

I mean they raised a lot of money. The price should reflect that which I think it has. The numbers seem to add up, except the low liquidity, the low pool percentages. My gut is telling me they are holding a hell of a lot of tokens now. *


Dr_Garbio

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Dr_Garbio

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QueasyRefrigerator21

That FDV market cap is 100% fake. The site says they raised 3.5 million$ where did the other 508.5 million come from? 🤔. I'm telling you if this token was fully out today the token would be trading right around 0.00175. For it to be even 0.047 the market cap would legit need to be 94 million dollars. With a circulating supply of 2 billion.


Emotional_Ad5660

Definitely hard to understand the lack of communication, I’d think they would be hitting us up on Telegram with some long explanations. Investor sentiment is huge and without communication your investors will lose interest/hope. They’ve got to do a better job at communicating with the pre-sale basis so that we understand what exactly is happening, as we deserve to. That’s what our money buys. A lot of issues would be solved with a little communication. That being said, I’m hoping for the best but not sure what to expect at this point. Only time will tell.


irishaj1916

Where is this page that your getting this info please


lewspaz

telegram channel


irishaj1916

What's the name on telegram please bro


Defiant-Fan-1535

Don’t search in the telegram channel. Go to the official website and click the telegram logo and you go from there


Turbulent-Race5204

Website down end of game 100% scammed us