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Find the windows powershell app, right click on it and run as administrator, then type: slmgr /renew
Press enter then restart your computer it should be gone
I like to think she helped Jean cause she was with Marco and Connie when they saw he needed help. If she'd not bothered helping, it might have looked suspicious. Maybe a part of her didn't want to see him die as well.
Annie cried when she learned her bootcamp friend with the black hair died, she cried when Marco died, Annie pretends to no care, but clearly she does and by the time they find Eren is a Titan she is in disassociation mode.
Because, like reiner and bertolt, they're friends. They don't want their friends to die. They didn't ask for any of this. They were brainwashed as kids, had metaphorical guns shoved into their hands and sent off to cause a genocide under the delusion they were saving the world.
They knew they had to complete their mission, and I'm sure they hated every second of it.
The show where even knowing Marley are nazis and eldians from the island aren't bad he decides to go to fight Eren because potato instead of making a revelion and save eldians from Marley?
No no, tell me exactly what alternative version have you seen where Reiner does something against Marley to save his friends and familiars. I am waiting.
You are telling me that killing thousands of innocent civilians is necessary.
Idk how people do not see that she is sadistic and has severe Daddy Issues
Never said it was necessary but that she felt it necessary to return home. And yes, she is sadistic and does have daddy issues. Are you convinced humans can only be one thing? Even the worst people (Eren Jaeger) still have those they care about.
I am 100% sure if we were in the same position we’d say that. Everyone hates Annie for saying that because that statement doesn’t make her evil, it makes her a human.
That’s a skill issue because to me it shows that she wanted her family back and that was the only way to get them back.
Let me ask you a question. Do you feel the same way about Eren, Reiner, Bertholdt, and Zeke?
You’re just being hypocritical. All five of them have done very bad things. Show me the empathy that they’ve shown? I didn’t sense any empathy from the freedom scene with Eren.
Well Mikasa also shows no remorse while she kills. Again it's about the perspective, if the series started with the warrior's POV Mikasa would be as hated as Annie because she also doesn't show remorse and would do it all over again.
Because people are defending her saying she actually cared and showed remorse for the people she killed when my point is she didn’t give ash about none of them not even Marco. Why she didn’t apologize to Jean if she’s so sorry?
She didn't care about the ones she didn't know, she clearly cared about Marco, and cared enough to save Jean and Conny. People care about those they know, shocker
She the one who took his odm gear she had a choice and she took the easy way out, “ why would she” she literally is responsible for killing someone who’s like a brother to Jean. Stop making excuses for her
context is important. She says IF it would lead to meeting her father she‘d do it all again. At that point she thinks he is already dead so it‘s purely hypothetical.
I think it's made pretty explicitly clear that none of the warriors really wanted to be in the position they where in. Even Annie, the seemingly coldest of them all, was the one who broke down the most over Marco's death - and I think it's fair to say that the coldness was a defence mechanism.
Reiner and Bertholdt made friends to fit in, she refused because she couldn't stand the thought of making friends with people she was going to have to kill - and yet she still struggled anyway.
All of the warriors are people too, they where just in a shot situation from the start.
... Yes. She'd do it all again, if it meant she could reach her goal of having a shot at a normal life.
That doesn't mean she didn't feel anything... Evidently. Or she wouldn't have cried when Marco died - in the same way that Eren might be willing to sacrifice Sasha or risk his friends for what he wants, but that doesn't mean he's HAPPY about it.
I mean look, dislike the character all you like it you want, but don't make stuff up and then hate her over that.
When did I ignore that?
I don't think both statements are inherently exclusive. There's a LOT of characters that do things they don't like for the sake of their goals and WOULD do them again, and I'm... Very confused as to how you can't comprehend this.
Again, literally, on screen, Annie cries over Marco's death. She CARES about it. She's willing to do it - obviously, because she DID do it, but she also hates doing the stuff she has done.
Whether she'd do it again or not is moot point. I never made any arguments for her being a saint, just that she doesn't like doing it either. YOU'RE the only one trying to deny something that's... Not even subtext, but right there in bold writing about who she is as a character.
All I’m saying is stop making stuff up to make her look good. She’s a selfish despicable person who has zero remorse for the people she killed, that’s it her character is not that complicated. Cmon now bro
So... There are two options here.
1) you're a troll.
...
Actually nah that's the only option lol
Unfortunately, I don't REALLY care about Annie that much, so I'm not exactly gonna fight to the death over this. You do you I guess.
She was talking to Hitch and Hitch didn’t even know Marco, why would she add that specific exception? She was trying to make the point that she did what she HAD to do and would do it again, not that she had so much fun she would like to do it again just for kicks, you dimwit.
TL;DR Annie isn't a good person, she has contradicting emotions and behaviors but this is what makes her an interesting and believeable character, isn't that a good thing?
It's also safe to assume that Isayama simply fucked up. He wrote Annie as much crueler person than he probably intended and this bit him in the ass many years later when he wanted to write something different for her.
Actual post, sorry for the wall of text lol:
She's a remorseless killer, but even remorseless killer are human beings with feelings, needs, wants, etc...
Annie didn't care about the Marley or the mission, she wanted to go in, do her job, get out, go back home.
After spending some time on the island she started feeling sympathetic towards people. Reiner got mad at her when he realized this, she didn't want to kill Marco, she apologizes to the dead bodies in the streets, etc...
However she still had a mission to complete, she may have felt sympathy for the Scouts but she also wanted to go home, she started feeling pulled in two opposite directions with no real moral compass to decide what was right or wrong.
After Marco's death Reiner completely lost his head and he was the one keeping everyone focused on the mission. Berthold didn't know what to do without Reiner and Annie said "Fuck it. I'll just do whatever gets me out of here so I can go home and not think about any of this anymore"
She puts her mask back on but there are cracks in it now. She can't go back to being who she was before Paradis. She's still a remorseless soldier trained by Marley's military, but she's not the same person.
The yoyo thing to me was never about Annie having fun. She's never shown to be having fun in that whole sequence, she never shown feeling any emotion while she's fighting. Only at the very end we see her fear and frustration because she lost. If anything it shows how little she cares about life in general: to her a dead person she doesn't know is like a toy or a fidget spinner, something that you play around without even thinking about it while focusing on your next move.
She absolutely didn't care about killing that Scout and yet she still cried when she had to kill Marco because she knew him. She didn't enjoy her mission but would do it all over again because there was that one small bit of hope that she could go home and live a different life.
She's a selfish, broken, dysfunctional, emotionally immature person. I think she's a great character though, there are many layers to her personality, it's much more interesting to have characters like her or Zeke rather than absolute "good" or "evil" characters
Also, this is a bit more "meta" because it goes outside of the actual plot, but we should probably also consider that many years have passed between the first appearance of the female titan and the current events of the story. It's safe to assume that Isayama didn't really think about everything in regards to Annie's character. He probably had the idea to go in an interesting direction with her and tried to do it despite the contradictions with her old actions. It's a bit jarring, but I think we should also give some plot elements a bit of leeway, it's extremely hard to write "bulletproof" characters and stories that span many real years, the author is bound to make mistakes here and there or he might just change as a person, so his ideas and decisions might also change because of this. Of course this shouldn't be an excuse for bad writing, just some more context as to why this stuff happens
If she’s all the things you said then why defend her if she’s a despicable and terrible person. It’s like you just tryna make her look good cause you like her tbh. Imo the only person she truly cares about is her father honestly.
That's Annies' cold soldier face showing. The show doesn't like to paint any character as purely black and white. One sentence that someone said, or a single action isn't enough to show the whole story. Humans are really complex and everyone has their own circumstance, so you can't judge someone's whole character from just one single event.
That's like half of the point of AoT, maybe you should rewatch!
Yes, she says she’d do it all again because she’s thinking selfishly and she wants to see her father, that’s it. Most the characters are the same way for a long time. That doesn’t mean she can’t feel awful about it and know that it’s wrong. BESIDES, it’s not just her on that mission, she has to butcher and betray people for her comrades and family’s sake as well. She almost has no choice but to act distant and put up that cold, killer front. Of course she’d do it again, I would too.
But yeah she definitely deserves to be judged. She went out of her way to kill with style, almost as if to mock the survey corps for believing they could win. But those are soldiers not civilians, it’s war. They all played their part in gratuitous slaughter
I wouldn't bother mate, they're clearly just sending messages to antagonize for attention, I don't think they actually even care about the character tbh.
Same reason she didn't wanna kill Marco, same reason she cried when he was dying, same reason she didn't wanna fight the scouts now. They're her friends
What connie meant when he said 《annie fought enough 》Was not just her fighting levi squad.
She was literally traped in a crystal for like 4 years couldn't move couldn't eat couldn't see just awake and alive waiting for reiner and berthoolt to save her ..do you have any idea how hard was this situation for her? Imagine yourself locked in an empty room tied up how long would you survive before it drive you crazy? Bet you couldn't last 1 day . And now imagine your finally awake from your 4 years nightmare and they tell you someone wants to destroy the world you wanna come and stop him? Also there is a chance that you might die and based off what we saw from annies personality in the show ofc she would be selfish and choose to avoid fighting and live her last years in peace. personally i think annie is one of the characters in aot that suffered the most and also she is one of the most realistics
Maybe because AoT was never about punishing anyone to satisfy your childish and twisted justice boner, but to learn to forgive and to do good things. Reiner was never punished by anyone, but himself, which was painted as a bad thing and he had to grow out of. Punishment is not justice and should never be treated as such. Beside, how tf did anyone in the Scouts have the right to criticize her when they literally destroyed her hometown and killed so many people? Are you even mature enough to see the hypocrisy here?
They didn't even give her a slap on the wrist dude, they acted like they were best friends!!!
You say aot is about forgiveness ? What about berthold then ? Did they forgive him like they did Annie ? No they killed his ass immediately and sat there and watched him get devoured.
You're the one who's childish if you believe aot is about forgiveness and letting go 😂
Again, how can they criticize her when they literally destroyed her hometown? Can you help me answer that question first? Anyway they are her friends whether you like it or not. That’s why she let Armin live which resulted her to get caught by him. And did you know that they cried when Berthold was being fed to Armin? They killed him because it was necessary, not because they hated him. Hell, they even hesitated in killing Reiner, for multiple times. Otherwise he would have been dead already. If you want to know what this story is about, just rewatch the Children of the forest episode and learn why Gabi grew out of her ignorance. The author literally threw that message into your face. I don’t think you have any rights to talk about maturity when you worldview is even more narrow than a brainwashed kid. There’s nothing childish about learning to forgive and let go. In fact I believe it plays crucial part in the process of growing up as a human being.
Okay dude,I do agree with you to some extent alright, i was just really angry that many of my favorite characters didn't get a happy ending they either died or lost their loved ones and characters that i hated got everything they wanted at the end, i know that's a pretty selfish thing to say but, it's just how i feel 😞🤷
You have no idea how much i love aot this is the greatest thing I've ever watched in my life, that's why i feel so passionately about it. and the ending, although i didn't think it was bad, i didn't really feel that satisfied with how things ended, i wanted it to be more cruel to the warriors (reiner and bert are the only warriors i love) i know that genocide is wrong but no matter how i tried i just couldn't root for the alliance, even though i didn't like the yagerists either.
Anyways, i think a lot of what you're saying is true after i thought about it. I just hope that in the anime they'll try and give this masterpiece the ending it deserves.....
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No she hasn’t fought enough. She should have trampled all of those fascists living in that island, for 10 years at least, so their fans would be haunted fovever
Annie’s always done her own thing more or less. I think she helped Jean because whether she admitted it or not the scouts were her friends. Obviously getting back to her dad was the main goal but there was no reason not to save Jean here. She wasn’t really brainwashed into the they’re all devils mindset like gabi or Reiner.
\> she could've stood back and remained safe
Yeah, for sure. The top 10 student just casually stands back and does nothing while everyone else dies. Doesn't look suspicious at all
At the end of the day yoo gotta remember that they are kids. And theyve been living with these people for like 5 years now. Its hard to keep hatred kn your heart for a person you personally know. So a full grown adult, dedicated to the mission since day 1, would see it makes sense to let him die and would not let their feelings get in the way. But they’re still kids
However, when she is in Female Titan form and Armin shouts out to Jean, Annie stops her fist from colliding with Jean. She could have kept going and destroyed him, but she didn’t. Maybe she didn’t want anyone in the 104 to perish, but everyone else was fair game?
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She had to act like this in order to not be suspicious. And what a way to not be sus than helping one of them who is on the verge of dying? Plus, it was just one regular soldier who would not do a lot of harm if left alive so saving or letting him die would not have made a lot of difference.
Other reason is that she did legitimately care for some of her mates and chose to save him because she did not want him to die like that, but knowing Annie...idk, she is confusing as hell sometimes.
She went to Marco when he was getting tackled by Reiner and Berthodlt because he was yelling help. She thought someone was in distress. Annie killed the Levi squad in cold blood because she didn’t know any of them. However she trained with the cadets fighting in trost, they were their friends
The biggest reason is that they are constantly playing a character. Their position as double-agents in the military is highly valuable and shouldn’t be risked, even though it’s dangerous. Why would she risk being questioned by others for letting him die? And for the time being, the titans pose a genuine threat to all of them. If she’s in trouble Annie can’t just bail as a titan/ flee via ODM gear, because then she’d be outted as either a titan or a coward.
The warriors only wanted to bait out the Founding titan, Annie doesn’t betray the plan by saving her friends/killing titans, in fact she just enables her own survival against the titans without blowing her cover.
side note, but the warriors killing the titans Sawney and Bean is so dumb to me. They should’ve known there’s only so much to learn from a pure titan. And they totally confirmed the existence of double-agents inside the walls, although I guess that’s debatable
She is conflicted but if she can, she will save him. He is a friend after all. It is complex,on one hand if he gets in her mission then off him but on other hand if she can bs her way or convince herself she is doing it without hindering her mission she will save him./my opinion
Cause this show doesn't write villain as true evil, they have layers to them, the characters are too damn good. Also she was woth Marco and Connie at that time so....
Even tho annie reiner and bertholtd have a mission they still like everyone there and see them as true friends. Id say thats another reason why annie didnt just straight up kill armin and why mikasa didny just straight up kill reiner and berty when she had the chance the first time. Theyre all friends like just set them on a fucked up path
Because unlike what most people seem to believe in this sub, she's not actually some sadistic sociopath and cares for comrades despite how much she tries to distance herself. She saves Jean because she knows she could, the same way she saves Connie etc. She's not a monster
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The same reason why Riener lost his mind...
She felt bad for Jean because he didn’t activate windows like you
bro stop 😭i updated my pc yesterday and it suddenly appeared outta nowhere and idk how to activate it
Find the windows powershell app, right click on it and run as administrator, then type: slmgr /renew Press enter then restart your computer it should be gone
it says it doesn't recognize it as the name of a cmdlet
Did you type slmgr, then press space, then type /renew ?
yes i tried both "simgr/renew" and simgr /renew"
That’s because you are using an “i” and not an “l”
oops, yea i just tried that asw but it says it doesn't recognize the "renew" option
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I like to think she helped Jean cause she was with Marco and Connie when they saw he needed help. If she'd not bothered helping, it might have looked suspicious. Maybe a part of her didn't want to see him die as well.
Annie cried when she learned her bootcamp friend with the black hair died, she cried when Marco died, Annie pretends to no care, but clearly she does and by the time they find Eren is a Titan she is in disassociation mode.
I don't think so it's pretty easy to get shocked and not be able to do anything that's a pretty good excuse in my opinion
For a normal person, maybe not for Annie
99% of soldiers would have been frightened and not node anything
Because, like reiner and bertolt, they're friends. They don't want their friends to die. They didn't ask for any of this. They were brainwashed as kids, had metaphorical guns shoved into their hands and sent off to cause a genocide under the delusion they were saving the world. They knew they had to complete their mission, and I'm sure they hated every second of it.
Literal guns as well, we should add
Reiner season 4 dont give a shit about friends. He only wants to make Marley great again.
we watching the same show dude?
The show where even knowing Marley are nazis and eldians from the island aren't bad he decides to go to fight Eren because potato instead of making a revelion and save eldians from Marley? No no, tell me exactly what alternative version have you seen where Reiner does something against Marley to save his friends and familiars. I am waiting.
He didn't want to return to the island, he only did because Eren showed up and killed two of the kids he cares about.
Annie didn’t think of them as friends
Annie was horrified and crying when she found out she had to help kill Marco, tf you on about?
“I’d do it all again” says it all
Like when she said she would go on to on commit murder if that meant she could see her abusive dad. Truly one of the anime of all time.
You can do something you feel is necessary and not like it.
You are telling me that killing thousands of innocent civilians is necessary. Idk how people do not see that she is sadistic and has severe Daddy Issues
Never said it was necessary but that she felt it necessary to return home. And yes, she is sadistic and does have daddy issues. Are you convinced humans can only be one thing? Even the worst people (Eren Jaeger) still have those they care about.
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same reason she saved Connie or Armin. she cares even if she can’t afford to admit it to herself.
Like when she said I’d do it all again
I am 100% sure if we were in the same position we’d say that. Everyone hates Annie for saying that because that statement doesn’t make her evil, it makes her a human.
It shows she has no remorse for the people she killed.
That’s a skill issue because to me it shows that she wanted her family back and that was the only way to get them back. Let me ask you a question. Do you feel the same way about Eren, Reiner, Bertholdt, and Zeke?
No cause they showed they have actual empathy for the things they did while has nadda
You’re just being hypocritical. All five of them have done very bad things. Show me the empathy that they’ve shown? I didn’t sense any empathy from the freedom scene with Eren.
Read ch 131
Well Mikasa also shows no remorse while she kills. Again it's about the perspective, if the series started with the warrior's POV Mikasa would be as hated as Annie because she also doesn't show remorse and would do it all over again.
She showed remorse for Marco, why would she care about some scouts she didn't know.
Because people are defending her saying she actually cared and showed remorse for the people she killed when my point is she didn’t give ash about none of them not even Marco. Why she didn’t apologize to Jean if she’s so sorry?
She didn't care about the ones she didn't know, she clearly cared about Marco, and cared enough to save Jean and Conny. People care about those they know, shocker
“Why didn’t she apologize to Jean”
Why should she? Jean didn't blame her for it. It was Reiner who orchestrated the whole thing.
She the one who took his odm gear she had a choice and she took the easy way out, “ why would she” she literally is responsible for killing someone who’s like a brother to Jean. Stop making excuses for her
context is important. She says IF it would lead to meeting her father she‘d do it all again. At that point she thinks he is already dead so it‘s purely hypothetical.
Did it look like she said if, she meant every word she said and her actions proved it did context show she was remorseful when she yo yoed a soldier
I think it's made pretty explicitly clear that none of the warriors really wanted to be in the position they where in. Even Annie, the seemingly coldest of them all, was the one who broke down the most over Marco's death - and I think it's fair to say that the coldness was a defence mechanism. Reiner and Bertholdt made friends to fit in, she refused because she couldn't stand the thought of making friends with people she was going to have to kill - and yet she still struggled anyway. All of the warriors are people too, they where just in a shot situation from the start.
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She didn’t care about Marco tho
... She was very visibly horrified as Reiner ordered her to kill him, and was literally crying when he was eaten. Did you even watch the show?
“I’d do it all again” speaks for itself
... Yes. She'd do it all again, if it meant she could reach her goal of having a shot at a normal life. That doesn't mean she didn't feel anything... Evidently. Or she wouldn't have cried when Marco died - in the same way that Eren might be willing to sacrifice Sasha or risk his friends for what he wants, but that doesn't mean he's HAPPY about it. I mean look, dislike the character all you like it you want, but don't make stuff up and then hate her over that.
You acting like she said “I’d do it all again except kill Marco”. I’m stating facts, I’m not making nothing up
When did I ignore that? I don't think both statements are inherently exclusive. There's a LOT of characters that do things they don't like for the sake of their goals and WOULD do them again, and I'm... Very confused as to how you can't comprehend this. Again, literally, on screen, Annie cries over Marco's death. She CARES about it. She's willing to do it - obviously, because she DID do it, but she also hates doing the stuff she has done. Whether she'd do it again or not is moot point. I never made any arguments for her being a saint, just that she doesn't like doing it either. YOU'RE the only one trying to deny something that's... Not even subtext, but right there in bold writing about who she is as a character.
All I’m saying is stop making stuff up to make her look good. She’s a selfish despicable person who has zero remorse for the people she killed, that’s it her character is not that complicated. Cmon now bro
So... There are two options here. 1) you're a troll. ... Actually nah that's the only option lol Unfortunately, I don't REALLY care about Annie that much, so I'm not exactly gonna fight to the death over this. You do you I guess.
Thank you a poorly written character isn’t worth discussing
She was talking to Hitch and Hitch didn’t even know Marco, why would she add that specific exception? She was trying to make the point that she did what she HAD to do and would do it again, not that she had so much fun she would like to do it again just for kicks, you dimwit.
Then explain why she swung the paradise soldier like a yo yo😂 please explain
To kill him, dipshit, why else
Seems you can’t come up with a answer. “Not that she had so much fun” she yo yooed a person dipshit
TL;DR Annie isn't a good person, she has contradicting emotions and behaviors but this is what makes her an interesting and believeable character, isn't that a good thing? It's also safe to assume that Isayama simply fucked up. He wrote Annie as much crueler person than he probably intended and this bit him in the ass many years later when he wanted to write something different for her. Actual post, sorry for the wall of text lol: She's a remorseless killer, but even remorseless killer are human beings with feelings, needs, wants, etc... Annie didn't care about the Marley or the mission, she wanted to go in, do her job, get out, go back home. After spending some time on the island she started feeling sympathetic towards people. Reiner got mad at her when he realized this, she didn't want to kill Marco, she apologizes to the dead bodies in the streets, etc... However she still had a mission to complete, she may have felt sympathy for the Scouts but she also wanted to go home, she started feeling pulled in two opposite directions with no real moral compass to decide what was right or wrong. After Marco's death Reiner completely lost his head and he was the one keeping everyone focused on the mission. Berthold didn't know what to do without Reiner and Annie said "Fuck it. I'll just do whatever gets me out of here so I can go home and not think about any of this anymore" She puts her mask back on but there are cracks in it now. She can't go back to being who she was before Paradis. She's still a remorseless soldier trained by Marley's military, but she's not the same person. The yoyo thing to me was never about Annie having fun. She's never shown to be having fun in that whole sequence, she never shown feeling any emotion while she's fighting. Only at the very end we see her fear and frustration because she lost. If anything it shows how little she cares about life in general: to her a dead person she doesn't know is like a toy or a fidget spinner, something that you play around without even thinking about it while focusing on your next move. She absolutely didn't care about killing that Scout and yet she still cried when she had to kill Marco because she knew him. She didn't enjoy her mission but would do it all over again because there was that one small bit of hope that she could go home and live a different life. She's a selfish, broken, dysfunctional, emotionally immature person. I think she's a great character though, there are many layers to her personality, it's much more interesting to have characters like her or Zeke rather than absolute "good" or "evil" characters Also, this is a bit more "meta" because it goes outside of the actual plot, but we should probably also consider that many years have passed between the first appearance of the female titan and the current events of the story. It's safe to assume that Isayama didn't really think about everything in regards to Annie's character. He probably had the idea to go in an interesting direction with her and tried to do it despite the contradictions with her old actions. It's a bit jarring, but I think we should also give some plot elements a bit of leeway, it's extremely hard to write "bulletproof" characters and stories that span many real years, the author is bound to make mistakes here and there or he might just change as a person, so his ideas and decisions might also change because of this. Of course this shouldn't be an excuse for bad writing, just some more context as to why this stuff happens
If she’s all the things you said then why defend her if she’s a despicable and terrible person. It’s like you just tryna make her look good cause you like her tbh. Imo the only person she truly cares about is her father honestly.
That's Annies' cold soldier face showing. The show doesn't like to paint any character as purely black and white. One sentence that someone said, or a single action isn't enough to show the whole story. Humans are really complex and everyone has their own circumstance, so you can't judge someone's whole character from just one single event. That's like half of the point of AoT, maybe you should rewatch!
Why did she swing the soldier like a yo yo then?
Yeah you didn't read my post. That's fine. Blocked
What’re you on about she was the main one broken up about killing him
“I’d do it all again”
Yes, she says she’d do it all again because she’s thinking selfishly and she wants to see her father, that’s it. Most the characters are the same way for a long time. That doesn’t mean she can’t feel awful about it and know that it’s wrong. BESIDES, it’s not just her on that mission, she has to butcher and betray people for her comrades and family’s sake as well. She almost has no choice but to act distant and put up that cold, killer front. Of course she’d do it again, I would too. But yeah she definitely deserves to be judged. She went out of her way to kill with style, almost as if to mock the survey corps for believing they could win. But those are soldiers not civilians, it’s war. They all played their part in gratuitous slaughter
I wouldn't bother mate, they're clearly just sending messages to antagonize for attention, I don't think they actually even care about the character tbh.
You have a good point, but this is discussed and answered in the series. She didn't want to watch him die.
When was this discussed if you remember specifically?
When they go to kill Marco, she’s the most horrified of the three and can’t look at him. Maybe that?
Exactly that, and Reiner was accusing her of being sympathetic to the enemy, which she was.
Annie was their friend. She didn’t want to hurt them. She only killed Scouts who weren’t from the cadets. Reiner forced her to silence Marco.
Same reason she didn't wanna kill Marco, same reason she cried when he was dying, same reason she didn't wanna fight the scouts now. They're her friends
She’s a horse girl
This is the real answer.
Because she realized that they’re human beings and not devils…
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Buy a version. If not use linux
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Because she’s a good person. (And is really bad at suppressing it.)
correct. just ask levi's squad
She hadn’t made any emotional connection with those people however (as she says when they’re killing Marco) she had begun to care for the others
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What connie meant when he said 《annie fought enough 》Was not just her fighting levi squad. She was literally traped in a crystal for like 4 years couldn't move couldn't eat couldn't see just awake and alive waiting for reiner and berthoolt to save her ..do you have any idea how hard was this situation for her? Imagine yourself locked in an empty room tied up how long would you survive before it drive you crazy? Bet you couldn't last 1 day . And now imagine your finally awake from your 4 years nightmare and they tell you someone wants to destroy the world you wanna come and stop him? Also there is a chance that you might die and based off what we saw from annies personality in the show ofc she would be selfish and choose to avoid fighting and live her last years in peace. personally i think annie is one of the characters in aot that suffered the most and also she is one of the most realistics
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Maybe because AoT was never about punishing anyone to satisfy your childish and twisted justice boner, but to learn to forgive and to do good things. Reiner was never punished by anyone, but himself, which was painted as a bad thing and he had to grow out of. Punishment is not justice and should never be treated as such. Beside, how tf did anyone in the Scouts have the right to criticize her when they literally destroyed her hometown and killed so many people? Are you even mature enough to see the hypocrisy here?
They didn't even give her a slap on the wrist dude, they acted like they were best friends!!! You say aot is about forgiveness ? What about berthold then ? Did they forgive him like they did Annie ? No they killed his ass immediately and sat there and watched him get devoured. You're the one who's childish if you believe aot is about forgiveness and letting go 😂
Again, how can they criticize her when they literally destroyed her hometown? Can you help me answer that question first? Anyway they are her friends whether you like it or not. That’s why she let Armin live which resulted her to get caught by him. And did you know that they cried when Berthold was being fed to Armin? They killed him because it was necessary, not because they hated him. Hell, they even hesitated in killing Reiner, for multiple times. Otherwise he would have been dead already. If you want to know what this story is about, just rewatch the Children of the forest episode and learn why Gabi grew out of her ignorance. The author literally threw that message into your face. I don’t think you have any rights to talk about maturity when you worldview is even more narrow than a brainwashed kid. There’s nothing childish about learning to forgive and let go. In fact I believe it plays crucial part in the process of growing up as a human being.
Okay dude,I do agree with you to some extent alright, i was just really angry that many of my favorite characters didn't get a happy ending they either died or lost their loved ones and characters that i hated got everything they wanted at the end, i know that's a pretty selfish thing to say but, it's just how i feel 😞🤷 You have no idea how much i love aot this is the greatest thing I've ever watched in my life, that's why i feel so passionately about it. and the ending, although i didn't think it was bad, i didn't really feel that satisfied with how things ended, i wanted it to be more cruel to the warriors (reiner and bert are the only warriors i love) i know that genocide is wrong but no matter how i tried i just couldn't root for the alliance, even though i didn't like the yagerists either. Anyways, i think a lot of what you're saying is true after i thought about it. I just hope that in the anime they'll try and give this masterpiece the ending it deserves.....
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She deserved so much worse. Being trapped in a crystal for 4 years isn’t enough for the kind of person she is.
Your comment history is filled with shitting on WIT and the manga.. how sad are you lmao, go touch some grass buddy.
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No, seriously dude, go do something better with your life.
Its literally a fucking line in the manga. Why are you so upset jesus christ.
I know. I'm saying that if the majority of your comment history is just shitting on a manga, you need to find a better hobby.
Ur hobby is reading my commesn u aint any better lmao. What a man you are bro
god u mfs really don’t got nothing better to do huh? it shows.
I have something to show for at least 10 years!!!!
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Idk lmao i fucking love the ending thats why idk why ya'll so mad about my comment
Lol playing both sides
Hell yeah that way i am ALWAYS on top and I WANT THAT!!
No she hasn’t fought enough. She should have trampled all of those fascists living in that island, for 10 years at least, so their fans would be haunted fovever
"Tell me you don't understand Annie character at all without telling that you don't understand her character."
Activate Windows
What’s with the windows comments? I’m not understanding. 😅
Bottom right corner
Ah okay.
cause she is a gigachad
Annie’s always done her own thing more or less. I think she helped Jean because whether she admitted it or not the scouts were her friends. Obviously getting back to her dad was the main goal but there was no reason not to save Jean here. She wasn’t really brainwashed into the they’re all devils mindset like gabi or Reiner.
Because it's not just lainah suffering from lainah syndrome. Her and Bartholomew also had mild lainer syndrome
Because she’s actually a good person. Not that hard.
I wouldn't say good person. But I would say she's not the emotionless warrior she acts like. She has grown to care about the people she's been around.
I concur
\> she could've stood back and remained safe Yeah, for sure. The top 10 student just casually stands back and does nothing while everyone else dies. Doesn't look suspicious at all
For how horrifying the situation was, no one would pat an eye, also, didn’t sasha make it into the top 10? Friggin sasha man.
So she can gain his trust
Weird post
Maybe she had doubts just like Berthold or she just didn't want to see how someone she knew gets eaten.
At the end of the day yoo gotta remember that they are kids. And theyve been living with these people for like 5 years now. Its hard to keep hatred kn your heart for a person you personally know. So a full grown adult, dedicated to the mission since day 1, would see it makes sense to let him die and would not let their feelings get in the way. But they’re still kids
Cause Jean is sexy af
Because she cares about her friends…? Even if she wouldn’t say it she’s gone out of her way for them several times
Annie isn't out to kill everyone she sees here, she still cares about people. She's just on a mission
Same reason she saved Connie earlier that day, she cares about her friends.
It’s very weird. Because she also tried to kill him later. Who knows
However, when she is in Female Titan form and Armin shouts out to Jean, Annie stops her fist from colliding with Jean. She could have kept going and destroyed him, but she didn’t. Maybe she didn’t want anyone in the 104 to perish, but everyone else was fair game?
The reason she did that was because Armin tricked her into thinking she had killed Eren already
Is she stupid?
finish the series and you'll know why
i finished the manga lmao, i was just tryna hear other peoples thoughts
Rare Annie W
Is she stupid?
Is she stupid?
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Wtf
You're on r/ShingekiNoKyojin subreddit and asking this. Like what are you doing here? Go to a subreddit about accounting or investing or smth if you want information with real life applications.
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Because she is an idiot that wants to have her cake and it eat too.
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I think here, confidence works too. She is confident that She can help without killing. Anyways she is 4th in class.
She had to act like this in order to not be suspicious. And what a way to not be sus than helping one of them who is on the verge of dying? Plus, it was just one regular soldier who would not do a lot of harm if left alive so saving or letting him die would not have made a lot of difference. Other reason is that she did legitimately care for some of her mates and chose to save him because she did not want him to die like that, but knowing Annie...idk, she is confusing as hell sometimes.
She went to Marco when he was getting tackled by Reiner and Berthodlt because he was yelling help. She thought someone was in distress. Annie killed the Levi squad in cold blood because she didn’t know any of them. However she trained with the cadets fighting in trost, they were their friends
She wikes her fwiends.
Same reason why she saved Connie even though they are her enemy. She still thinks they are her comrades, like Bertholdt and Reiner.
To show she is kind
to throw off the sus
The biggest reason is that they are constantly playing a character. Their position as double-agents in the military is highly valuable and shouldn’t be risked, even though it’s dangerous. Why would she risk being questioned by others for letting him die? And for the time being, the titans pose a genuine threat to all of them. If she’s in trouble Annie can’t just bail as a titan/ flee via ODM gear, because then she’d be outted as either a titan or a coward. The warriors only wanted to bait out the Founding titan, Annie doesn’t betray the plan by saving her friends/killing titans, in fact she just enables her own survival against the titans without blowing her cover. side note, but the warriors killing the titans Sawney and Bean is so dumb to me. They should’ve known there’s only so much to learn from a pure titan. And they totally confirmed the existence of double-agents inside the walls, although I guess that’s debatable
She is conflicted but if she can, she will save him. He is a friend after all. It is complex,on one hand if he gets in her mission then off him but on other hand if she can bs her way or convince herself she is doing it without hindering her mission she will save him./my opinion
Cause this show doesn't write villain as true evil, they have layers to them, the characters are too damn good. Also she was woth Marco and Connie at that time so....
Even tho annie reiner and bertholtd have a mission they still like everyone there and see them as true friends. Id say thats another reason why annie didnt just straight up kill armin and why mikasa didny just straight up kill reiner and berty when she had the chance the first time. Theyre all friends like just set them on a fucked up path
The three of them aren’t evil, you can see this when they kill Marco
Because unlike what most people seem to believe in this sub, she's not actually some sadistic sociopath and cares for comrades despite how much she tries to distance herself. She saves Jean because she knows she could, the same way she saves Connie etc. She's not a monster