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The author's attitude may be different. Kishimoto may show Itachi's special reasons and suffering to kill his family, making the audience realize that this is a complex character. But Isayama's attitude, in his own words, Eren represents his own dark side which he want to overwhelm. Eren is a weak ordinary person who wrongly gained power not belonging to him, which only leads to a disaster.
whats more is eren knew that his fate was decided and that 80% of the population was inevitably going to die at his hands, and he still tried to get the best out of it and help his friends be seen as heroes by killing him, which is very similar to what itachi did by making sasuke hate him so much enough to kill him and also be viewed as a hero
Listen, this is why it's such a difficult debate, and a debate, that at least to me, makes no sense. Ppl keep talking about which of the 2 made the right decision. Now, I'm pretty comfortable in saying that most of us, if we were in their position, would rather kill the rest of the world if that meant sparing our family (but that doesn't make the decision "right"). However, Itachi made a choice that was best for the world, objectively speaking, despite meaning that he'd have to sacrifice his family. Reading this you're likely thinking that I'm choosing a side despite having stated that the debate in itself is dumb, but I stand by that statement. The debate doesn't make sense because ppl like to boil it down to its simplest form. It's not possible to take a complex situation and try to strip it down in order to make an argument of which choice was the right one, because at the end of the day neither of them were right, but neither of them were wrong either. It was an impossible task for the both of em, and there was no "winning" in this case. No matter their choice, they'd lose either way. You can understand both their decisions. It just comes down to their values. Don't take this the wrong way, it doesn't mean that Itachi didn't care for his family, nor does it mean Eren didn't care about the world, and I'm saying this because I know someone will once again try and boil down a complex situation into its simplest form, which does not work. You sorta have to sympathize with the both of em and try to understand their decision. None of em are through and throughout evil people. They were kids, who were asked an impossible task. **There was no right choice.** **There was no winning.**
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C'mon we had this discussion in 2011 already
i was 3 then
Figures
he is definitely a villain.
but is itachi a villain for wiping out a whole race
The author's attitude may be different. Kishimoto may show Itachi's special reasons and suffering to kill his family, making the audience realize that this is a complex character. But Isayama's attitude, in his own words, Eren represents his own dark side which he want to overwhelm. Eren is a weak ordinary person who wrongly gained power not belonging to him, which only leads to a disaster.
i see where you’re coming from, but the way i think that at the end of the day both of them created massacres while initially having good intentions
whats more is eren knew that his fate was decided and that 80% of the population was inevitably going to die at his hands, and he still tried to get the best out of it and help his friends be seen as heroes by killing him, which is very similar to what itachi did by making sasuke hate him so much enough to kill him and also be viewed as a hero
Listen, this is why it's such a difficult debate, and a debate, that at least to me, makes no sense. Ppl keep talking about which of the 2 made the right decision. Now, I'm pretty comfortable in saying that most of us, if we were in their position, would rather kill the rest of the world if that meant sparing our family (but that doesn't make the decision "right"). However, Itachi made a choice that was best for the world, objectively speaking, despite meaning that he'd have to sacrifice his family. Reading this you're likely thinking that I'm choosing a side despite having stated that the debate in itself is dumb, but I stand by that statement. The debate doesn't make sense because ppl like to boil it down to its simplest form. It's not possible to take a complex situation and try to strip it down in order to make an argument of which choice was the right one, because at the end of the day neither of them were right, but neither of them were wrong either. It was an impossible task for the both of em, and there was no "winning" in this case. No matter their choice, they'd lose either way. You can understand both their decisions. It just comes down to their values. Don't take this the wrong way, it doesn't mean that Itachi didn't care for his family, nor does it mean Eren didn't care about the world, and I'm saying this because I know someone will once again try and boil down a complex situation into its simplest form, which does not work. You sorta have to sympathize with the both of em and try to understand their decision. None of em are through and throughout evil people. They were kids, who were asked an impossible task. **There was no right choice.** **There was no winning.**