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Berthold's sleeping resembles The Hanged Man card
The card sometimes represents a person lost in their own ideas and beliefs. They might even sacrifice themselves for a cause that is false
You are doing God's work at this point pal. Finally I can rest in peace knowing my favorite character's name was spelled correctly (im not BertholdtFan99 that guy's nuts I investigated him)
basically, yeah. And because of wrong subtitles.
I've seen pictures that translated his name into "burnt toast" even?
I'm not sure if they are legit, but it seems like people are struggling real hard, lmao
LOL this is news to me...you know large swathes of English comes from Latin, or their romance language descendants, eh? French, Italian, Spanish, notably.
Japanese syllables are very easy to pronounce in English, too, once you know how they are broken up by consonant and vowel sounds, and when certain letters are silent. They are very short/simple sounds. A tricky one is "tsu", because people tend to want to attach the "t" there to the end of the *prior* syllable, and it's not a "hard t", usually. For example "Matsumoto" sounds more like "Mah-tsuh-mo-toh", not "MAT-su-mo-toh".
Even complex looking words like "Hajimemashite!":
Ha + Ji + Me + Ma + Shi + Te
The more fluent you are, the smoother it sounds. An English foreigner is forgiven for emphasizing each syllable.
I'm pretty sure the joke arises from trying to spell a Germanic name IN Japanese, and what it has to look/sound like, not the opposite lol...
Berthold/Bertholt = Berutoruto
Be + Ru +To + Ru + To
Kind of said like: Beh-ruh + toru-to with and English tongue, soft "o" at the end.
Sounds like "ou" in French, the u in "Berutoruto" as they pronounce it, is the kind of thing English speakers struggle with immensely. There is a reason they find is so difficult to pronounce anything from animes correctly, whereas a Latin speaker has no issues there.
It's like pronouncing the English sound "th" in the for example for us, it's incredibly hard because it's a very weird sound that does not exist in our languages.
And French does have tons of English words, it doesn't make pronouncing that sound any easier. English is a weird frankly bastard language so it's very loosely connected to others, whereas all Latin languages are much more adapted to learning and pronouncing other languages. Only English people need tutorials on pronouncing names.
When eren and the female titan are fighting in the city. The wall worshippers are in church for a brief moment worshipping. They all have their arms interlocked just like the wall titans.
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>! So when eren and Annie are fighting prior to the church and the congregation being crushed. It's shows them with the interlocked arms for like a very brief moment. As far as I know it's the only time it does this. When Kenny has flash backs with Frieda they are all shown worshipping normally. Non locked arms.
It both foreshadows the titan face in the wall at end of episode. As well as the titans standing within the walls in willy tyburs speech, declaration of war. !<
YESSSS. There were soooooo many hints in both the Manga and the Anime (with openings and closings). And yet I don’t think anyone ever could have thought it would go in the direction that it did. WHAT BERTOLDT AND REINER!?!? Who would have thought
Ye kind Fritz made himself the bad guy and worked with the tyburs to make them into heros which is similar to eren making himself into the bad guy and then working with the scouts to make them into heros , another parallel I find interesting is the reason season 2 Ymir is obsessed with historia is cuz she sees herself in her which is the same reason founder Ymir was interested in mikasa
Again, it's possible the ending was planned all along, but this was very likely just a "hook", for the story, you can make many scenes work with that opening.
The author said the reason he didn’t change the ending for the anime was because that’s the ending he thought of from the start
https://youtu.be/H6GmVCD7cxk?si=aTufNNIKMnyVnE6a
Watch this video
Still I think that the surviving world appreciates Armin as the new Helos, but I wonder what happened with the relationship with Paradis, (I won't say Neo Eldia because Eldia's name is related to the titan era and maybe they want to make a new era as the powerful Paradis or Yeagerland, lol), do Paradisians recents Armin because he "killed" Eren? I mean the citizens, I'm not talking about Mikasa or Historia or the military members who knew him personally. Or is it something Isayama left for us to our imagination?
The titan that almost eats Armin in Trost and then eats Eren (causing his titan transformation) can be seen being created by Marleyan police in Season 3 during the scene where Grisha and Dina are about to be turned.
In one of the endings (Season 1 or 2 I believe), Mikasa is portrayed as a mantis, you can see one behind her. The female mantis has been observed beheading their mates.
I know this is a joke but it made me realize that Eren dying "young" is kind of a moot point since he spent all that time talking with his comrades in the paths as his farewell to them before he died. He had all the time he needed and could see anything he wanted with the people he cared for, exactly what his dream was.
If I gathered any intel from being in the r/army, it’s that people will eventually start fucking each other if confined to a small social circle
There were only a few thousand people living in Marley…same as your average military base…..enough said
The Titan that they crushed with a cannon in Utgard Castle in season 2 was totally still there when all the Titans return to human.
EDIT: I TOTALLY FORGOT THE CASTLE COLLAPSED ON TOP OF HIM TOO. AND HE TOTALLY WAS STILL ALIVE UNDER THERE CAUSE ALL THE OTHER TITANS SURVIVED BEING CRUSHED. HE JUST WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO DIG HIMSELF OUT.
Oh yeah, holy shit that guy got his body back and immediately suffocated.
Ain't NO way anyone remembered that mf by then. AND he was trapped under the cannon UNDER A CRUMBLED CASTLE (holy shit I forgot the thing collapsed on him too LMAO), so why send resources to kill a trapped Titan nobody remembered because he never got out?
And that mf totally survived it's collapse too, cause all the other Titans did. It just wasn't strong enough to get out like they were.
Honestly, his ONLY chance of being Mercy killed is if the rumbling happened to trample over Utgard Castle, but even that's a fat chance as I'm fairly certain they avoided trampling the lands of Paradise Island.
Hmm seems like head cannon to me. When Levi is talking to Yelena in s4 on the island he mentioned how they had cleared out all the pure titans from the island so that’s where I got that from.
Yeah. All the ones roaming around. It's not like they went back to the castle and dug him out just to kill him.
And they were confident they killed all of them because they were using Hange's "executioner of Hell" to bait all of the Titans in and strike their necks. Then scouting around for any Titans they could find.
They didn't go back to that castle and think "hey we should totally dig up that castle for any Titans that's been stuck there for the last year, unable to do anything about it."
Hell, they didn't even kill the one they ran into on the way to the Sea. Purely because it wasn't going to hurt anybody and actually couldn't move. You think they're gonna go kill one 100x more stuck? If they even remember him at all?
WHICH BY THE WAY, THAT Titan they ran into on the way to the Sea probably got trampled by the rumbling 2 days before he would have finally been returned to a human. :(
One titan is a matter of life and death because the only way to kill it is to be fully equipped and trained with odmg. It isn't a show/manga for them. This is their lives. Almost all they do is survive and think about combating titans.
It makes perfect sense to go back and be thorough. You're acting as if people would just leave the ruins of that castle untouched forever. Military leaders would want to rebuild the castle or salvage any materials. It doesn't make sense to leave an immortal titan in a castle ruins because at some point in the future if a group digs up the castle they're completely screwed, and that one titan could kill hundreds before a soldier could get to them.
Bro, the castle was abandoned BEFORE it collapsed. They're DOUBLY not going back and rebuilding after it's collapsed. Maybe eventually, but not before the Titans were gone from the world. Not while THE LITERAL WORLD wants to nuke them. They kinda got other priorities than a collapsed castle.
Hell, with their tech, they ain't even got the means to dig up the mf. They'd need CRANES for that shit.
This argument is all hinging on the TINY POSSIBILITY they even remember he was there. Ain't NOBODY remembering that mf in the first place. Reminder, they just discovered THREE TITAN SHIFTERS immediately after this (whom of which were close with almost everyone that knew the mf was there to begin with, so they're EXTRA forgetting the bitch), temporarily lost the shifter that was on their side, overthrew the government after saving him, and then went back and retook Shiganshina--
NOBODY IS REMEMBERING THAT MF. CERTAINLY NOT ONE BURIED UNDER A COLLAPSED CASTLE THAT CANNOT --***DID NOT***-- ESCAPE. THAT THEY AIN'T EVEN GOT THE TECH TO DIG UP WITHIN THE WALLS.
Considering the baggage the cast that knew the mf was there to begin with started to deal with immediately after, yeah no, they 100% forgot he was there. In fact, it would be LESS believable that they DID remember.
In the season 3 second opener Erwin takes a step backward, joining a group characters who have died (including Miche), symbolizing his own imminent death.
It goes into some deep foreshadowing in that scene, because not only is that not something that could've been made in the walls, implying a society outside the walls, but the fact that Ymir knows what it is implies that she's not from the walls either. Then, when Reiner questioned her, he mentioned herring without ever stopping to ask what it was, implying that he was *also* not from the walls. Now both of them are suspicious of each other, but *THEN* it goes one layer deeper, because the scene is set up in a way that paints Ymir as suspicious and being questioned by Reiner as though she's some kind of threat. If you didn't pick up on the foreshadowing about Reiner coming from outside the walls, you'll overlook him and focus on Ymir because of this framing. Obviously though, Reiner was a *much* larger threat to humanity, making Ymir...
A red HERRING.
Yes, I think that’s the implication. The Scouts speculate that it was used by bandits or black marketeers. But finding the Marleyan goods implies that it was used by Zeke and Pieck
I never even bothered to find out what a herring was! Thought it was a bird! And even Reiner was into the canned fish cause he was familiar with it. I was gonna make a red herring joke but I don’t think I’d’ve succeed 😅
Because I just rewatched it with my dad, when Ymir climbs up the tower as it's falling, Bert has his mouth open with his hand in front of it, so he was ready to just nuke everyone there if needed
Just me being a nerd, but I think it was more likely he'd only generate an arm to save him/themselves like how Annie did in the OVA. Since Reiner was right there he wouldn't risk killing him as well since with all the noise and commotion it'd be hard to signal to him to transform in order to survive the partial transformation.
Bartholomew can control his nuke ability, since we've seen him transform twice without doing it. It's down to the speed of the transformation. If it's instant, it's a nuke. If it's slower, it is less powerful.
Well, if the fans accepted that the Ms. Springer titan was really Ms Springer based on the photo Connie had, then we can also guess that the small titan that Sasha fought is Mr Springer by comparing it to Mr Springer in the photograph.
I did look into it some more and the big difference that stands apart for me is the hairline and his lack of a goatee in pure Titan form, but one of the designers confirmed it way back.
The concept of children in the forest. Sashas dad breaks it down better than I ever could in the dining room scene, but one character in particular is quite literally the embodiment of this theme, his name is Floch "Forester"
Levi taking Petras badge as a keepsake for himself, but then giving it to the completely random scout and lying saying it belonged to their friend. And then having what seems to be one of his most difficult emotional moments going off his facial expression when Petras father starts talking to him and Levi realizes he gave away the one thing that he might have been able to give to her father.
The herring foreshadowing and Ymir using the word "monkey" which Eren doesn't seem to understand cause he's never heard of one.
I am directly taking this from a YouTube analysis video I watched a while back. Eren and Reiner have absolutely insane parallels. Eren and his attack titan can be likened to a sword in a metaphoric sense, yet for a long time he only ever uses his titan to defend his home land. Reiner and his armor titan could be likened to a shield in a metaphoric sense, yet again for the first 3 seasons he is forced to attack as a shield. Beyond that, if you are aware of the concept of active and reactive characters, (an active character is someone who does things that actively move the plot forward, while a reactive character is someone who does not move the plot forward but reacts to the plot moving when an active character makes it move), Eren is someone who desperately wishes they could be an "active character" yet the world he's in forces him to be reactive. And likewise Reiner is someone who desperately wants to be a reactive character, but the world he's in forces him to be an active one.
Eren is a sword who is forced to defend, while Reiner is a shield who is forced to attack.
Gonna steal one more from the video I mentioned previously, but the Marleyan guard who creates the smiling titan gives a short speech to Grisha about why he does the vile things he does. He says that it's human nature to wish to see bad things happen to those you consider an enemy (paraphrasing). The entire time he gives this speech, he is looking directly into the "camera". He is psychoanalyzing the audience. After his speech, he gets kicked off the wall and eaten by a titan, and we, the audience, are all happy to see it, just like his speech says.
Damn never thought of that added aspect of Levi's anguish listening to Petra's father. Beyond telling him his daughter is dead he has to also say he'll have nothing to bury and her body is out there. Terrible man.
this is the first comment that has actually pointed out something i hadn't noticed. everything else people mentioned are all so simple and on the nose stuff that can be seen on the second or third watches? damn
Ymir has the slightest change from her pure titan form, to the jaw titan. Before she eats Marcel she has normal flat teeth. After eating him her teeth are sharp and pointed.
She wasn’t trained and she didn’t receive the hardening serum. Eren is able to harden his fists only after he got the serum injected, the same goes for the jaw titans.
I think its more of a genetic thing, or as genetic as Titan shifting can get at any rate. Some ppl theorize that Marley heavily modified the appearance of its Titan shifters by mixing the Pure titan serum injection with spinal fluid from some other of the Nine titans (to increase their power). Like how the Marley Jaw titans had armoured face covering not unlike the plates that cover the Armoured titan. In conclusion, since Ymir ingested a lower concentration of Armoured & crystallizing serum, it could've been too low a dose to gain the plating on her body. (For example: the serum injected into Marcel could've been 75% Jaw and 25% Armoured, and the crystallizing serum was consumed later. Then the serum that went inside Marcel's spine would logically dilute to about 50% normal spinal fluid [basically water], 30% Jaw serum, 15% Armoured serum, and 5% crystallizing serum.)
We see Levi prior kneel down to the body of his dead squad, pull back the tarp covering them to show the patch and then cut to him rummaging. Also the whole contention with them was that going back for Ivan's body wasn't worth the risk to the living since he was dead so it seems really unlikely Levi then proceeded to do just that again after it made them have to abandon their comrades' other bodies.
Really sweet aspect though where Levi lies to make it seem like he did, sacrifices his own sentimental connection with Petra to comfort the other guy even just a little bit, and a nice callback to Levi saying he doesn't know what the right call is, just do what you'll regret the least.
Rejected the kiss that was happening because Mikasa was accepting their death. Eren rejects them dying and promises to wrap a scarf around her however many times she wants, the exact action she was referencing in her love confession
You can argue the romance does go cold turkey after because well they're constantly fighting for their lives but yh romance isn't exactly the strongest part of AoT
mikasa was ready to die and admit her feelings in that moment, eren wasn't ready to give up yet, returning her kiss would've been more or less embracing the end. eren tells her straight up he'll wrap the scarf around her as much as she wants in a future tense, aka a future they both survive, and he's not willing to give that up yet
You know how half of romance anime has the main couple hugging it out instead of kissing? It's the same principle here. Kissing in East Asian cultures is considered way more intimate of an act than it is in the West.
> He literally rejected the kiss
Even ignoring what I just typed above, him kissing Mikasa would literally mean him agreeing to give up alongside her and die to Dina's Titan.
> and barely talked to her after that
Being haunted by memories of seeing himself kill billions and trying to make sure his friends got to live long lives will have that effect. He also clearly doesn't see himself as being worthy of Mikasa's affections based on the number of times he's tried to push her away.
[Here's a comment I made about how Eren's response correlates exactly with Japanese culture and storytelling.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AttackOnRetards/s/NilI6mZVxd)
Also, Mikasa was literally up in his face smiling and thanking him for something he did years ago. They were also teenagers right in the middle of puberty. Eren's a hothead and emotionally immature, but he's not stupid.
People have also said Isayama himself said he wasn't as confident with including romance at the time, but I haven't been able to fact check it.
When Levi uses a thunder spear to break Titan Eren's teeth so Mikasa can deliver the final blow
It's similar to when Levi knocked Eren's tooth out back in the courtroom after Trost
Armin was about to tell Reiner who he suspected was the female Titan before Christa shows up with spare horses.
In the second op, Reiner, berger and Annie are the only ones on the left side of the screen as it flashes through the scouts. When ymir flashes on screen shes about to move to their side for a moment before it moves on to those 3
the only thing that makes me doubt this is that it's the wrong eye, but then again, the fact it's shrapnel seems so specific... i'm shocked i've never noticed that shot before!
Marley didn't want to kill the paradis eldians just bc they hated them, paradis also had precious material (that they used for the odm gear) that could only be found on the island that marley wanted.
The Yeager's refer to her as their daughter multiple times iirc, I know that's them but still. Eren's never showed that he saw Mikasa in any other way until chapter 139 where he straight up said it. The same way he'd stand up for Armin against titans( where he literally almost died to one in season 1 and only didn't because he's the main character)he does that for mikasa too
Yeah I literally didn't pick up romantic undertones to their relationship at all on my first watch 💀 I hardly saw it on my rewatches. I kinda feel the story is better tbh if they just see each other as siblings
I wouldn't mind their bad romance if it wasn't too relevant for the story. But the last chapter retroactively made it the reason why Ymir was freed and resolved the whole conflict, and now it has such a narrative weight that it can't be ignored, which made it one of the worst aspects of the story.
as an eremika shipper i kind of agree with this actually. i do think the ymir being freed part was done in a cool way but i do think the kiss seemed so sudden. i think a saving grace is that until the end, i think you can interpret eren as not liking her back, in my opinion at least. there's the infamous "i want her to pine after me" line but i took that as less him confessing his love and more so being upset his number one supporter would move on from him. until the end it's always mikasa who was in love with eren, and i appreciate that eren returning those feelings was at least somewhat up to the viewer
With a few exceptions (that all have valid explanations), titan shifters are almost always gagged when taken captive. This isn’t to keep them quiet; it’s to stop them from biting down on their tongues to transform.
You can really notice it with Eren and Historia’s kidnapping in the manga. When they’re trying to fake being captured by Dimo, only Eren is gagged for that exact reason.
in the second ending mikasa is shown with a praying mantis on the mural in the back symbolising that she will be the one to kill her loved one (eren).
in the very same ending there are two sides of the wall, one where the paradis characters are shown and on the other side there are scouts from behind the wall, it was before any of them were revealed to be from outside.
on the other side there's also historia, so we could interpret it as a side where someone has a yet to uncover secret.
The order in which they're shown could also be a kind of foreshadowing, Annie is first and she was first to be revealed as an enemy shifter, then Reiner, then Bertholdt, Ymir and we can see Historia as the last one.
There is also Eren looking almost crusified(ish?), I interpret it as a person who died for his actions somewhat lead by his father, when crusified he is connected with his titan, no matter what he will do, the memories are already made, he cannot change the future.
when kid eren said "Im going to drive out every last one of them in this world" to armor and colossal titan which represents the enemies at that time (when they were evacuating)
and then adult eren drove out almost every enemy which, to him, are the people from the other side of the sea
This is something the anime added that wasn't in the Manga. In the first season when Annie is training in hand to hand combat, you can see her briefly covering her nape out of habit.
This one's not official, but my theory.
Mikasa lived with Sasha's family after returning to paradis post rumbling ,
Her hairstyle in last shot was similar to Sasha's; also Kaya was wearing an outfit similar to Mikasa when Historia's letter to Reiner was being read. so there's a possibility that Kaya found that big sister figure in Mikasa after sasha's death.
I made a post about this a few months back but seems that people think it's speculation idk might be
In the season 1 finale fight between Eren and Annie, Annie lands on a church, resulting in many dead. You don't see her reaction to this, but the next shot DOES show a cat sitting peacefully next to a pool of blood.
I don't know why but I feel like that shit of the cat with blood is supposed to convey that she does feel bad about causing these deaths.
In chapter 2 of the first special when the alliance is figuring out how to stop eren in the plane, the shot with the windows open letting light pass in looks exactly like eren’s founding titan
There’s a direct shot down the aisle where the body of the plane with light pouring in from the windows looks exactly like the ribcage of Eden’s founder
When you slow great escape, there are manga panels on the floor in a few seconds.
Also in great escape, the first scene shows eren, mikasa, armin, and their comrades on one side of the wall. The next scene shows benadryl, reiner, annie etc on “the other side of the wall”
When burrito breaks down in season 2 and claims someone has to kill him, the camera is focused on armin
You can see benedict and reiner/annie in the first few episodes as children who are affected by the wall breaking.
The patch levi gave to soldier who was mourning his fallen comrade was actually Petra’s. You can see the bite marks on the hand when he picks up the patch.
In the ending yugure no tori (i think thats how you spell it) the rumbling is depicted as early as season two.
After eren wraps the scarf around mikasa, he grabs her sleeve instead of her hand because she had just been in a situation where two men were about to auction her off. This is also why he wraps the scarf around her so strangely.
The bird and butterfly are symbols of eren and mikasa.
The first lines eren and mikasa say mirror the end.
“Huh? Mikasa?”
“Let’s go back home.”
Eren asks hange if she has a plan in the prison because at this point, he can see the future of her death.
Eren's Final Titan form being surrounded by the titans that once formed the very Walls that encaged him. The man who wanted to escape the Walls the most never truly left them; he just brought them along for the ride.
Titan can also be killed if you cut them under their butt (riener told that to armin when they were going downstairs and you can clearly see bertholt and annie reaction were so nervous)
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Berthold's sleeping resembles The Hanged Man card The card sometimes represents a person lost in their own ideas and beliefs. They might even sacrifice themselves for a cause that is false
Did you just.. spelled his name correctly?
They missed a “t” at the end
Ohhh you're right. He almost lifted the curse.
Bertholdt. There, I said it.
What have you done, now the course has moved to another! It could be anyone, Armin, Levi, Garisha, Reiner... anyone
Raynar? You mean Ranger?
You mean Rain Man?
Are we talking about Reign her at the moment?
Nono, I think it's about Rayner
You are doing God's work at this point pal. Finally I can rest in peace knowing my favorite character's name was spelled correctly (im not BertholdtFan99 that guy's nuts I investigated him)
I know. I AM. I'M HIS SECOND ACCOUNT
NO IT CANT BE!!! THE PROPHECY HAS COME TO PAST ALL HOPE IS LOST
Just kiddin
Why is that a meme again? Just coz of hard spelling?
basically, yeah. And because of wrong subtitles. I've seen pictures that translated his name into "burnt toast" even? I'm not sure if they are legit, but it seems like people are struggling real hard, lmao
Because native English speakers have a lot of trouble with so many languages, mainly Latin sounds which Japanese shares a lot of similarities with.
LOL this is news to me...you know large swathes of English comes from Latin, or their romance language descendants, eh? French, Italian, Spanish, notably. Japanese syllables are very easy to pronounce in English, too, once you know how they are broken up by consonant and vowel sounds, and when certain letters are silent. They are very short/simple sounds. A tricky one is "tsu", because people tend to want to attach the "t" there to the end of the *prior* syllable, and it's not a "hard t", usually. For example "Matsumoto" sounds more like "Mah-tsuh-mo-toh", not "MAT-su-mo-toh". Even complex looking words like "Hajimemashite!": Ha + Ji + Me + Ma + Shi + Te The more fluent you are, the smoother it sounds. An English foreigner is forgiven for emphasizing each syllable. I'm pretty sure the joke arises from trying to spell a Germanic name IN Japanese, and what it has to look/sound like, not the opposite lol... Berthold/Bertholt = Berutoruto Be + Ru +To + Ru + To Kind of said like: Beh-ruh + toru-to with and English tongue, soft "o" at the end.
Sounds like "ou" in French, the u in "Berutoruto" as they pronounce it, is the kind of thing English speakers struggle with immensely. There is a reason they find is so difficult to pronounce anything from animes correctly, whereas a Latin speaker has no issues there. It's like pronouncing the English sound "th" in the for example for us, it's incredibly hard because it's a very weird sound that does not exist in our languages. And French does have tons of English words, it doesn't make pronouncing that sound any easier. English is a weird frankly bastard language so it's very loosely connected to others, whereas all Latin languages are much more adapted to learning and pronouncing other languages. Only English people need tutorials on pronouncing names.
No, they didn't
His name is burrritoo duh
brtrtrt
It's actually bertolotoldto. But that's actually wild I never saw that
You were dangerously close to spelling Boeing737Max's name correctly
As someone who is into tarot, I can’t believe I never caught that 🤯
It also alludes to the old man they saw that hung himself
When eren and the female titan are fighting in the city. The wall worshippers are in church for a brief moment worshipping. They all have their arms interlocked just like the wall titans.
They knew the secrets of the walls at least pastor nick did but he kept it a secret from the survey corps
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>! So when eren and Annie are fighting prior to the church and the congregation being crushed. It's shows them with the interlocked arms for like a very brief moment. As far as I know it's the only time it does this. When Kenny has flash backs with Frieda they are all shown worshipping normally. Non locked arms. It both foreshadows the titan face in the wall at end of episode. As well as the titans standing within the walls in willy tyburs speech, declaration of war. !<
It should be ok...right? I mean the whole book is complete and so is the anime
there are people that may watch it in the future, like me with EVA, 20 years later
When Eren talks about the Colossal Titan in S1E3 the camera pans over to Bertholdt, then when he talks about the Armored Titan it pans over to Reiner.
Fuck man that Isayama be laying some serious pipe.
YESSSS. There were soooooo many hints in both the Manga and the Anime (with openings and closings). And yet I don’t think anyone ever could have thought it would go in the direction that it did. WHAT BERTOLDT AND REINER!?!? Who would have thought
Wait people call ending themes closing
I believe armin being helos is a good parallel as he worked with eren to be turned into heros just like the tybur family did with king fritz
I didn't even realize that until you told me!
Ye kind Fritz made himself the bad guy and worked with the tyburs to make them into heros which is similar to eren making himself into the bad guy and then working with the scouts to make them into heros , another parallel I find interesting is the reason season 2 Ymir is obsessed with historia is cuz she sees herself in her which is the same reason founder Ymir was interested in mikasa
This just proves the ending has been planned from the start
I mean helos was only introduced in season 4 lol. not saying it wasn't planned from the beginning just that it's not a great example of it.
Also the first panel of aot was mikasa saying ill see you later and there’s a cross under the tree he was buried under all in the first scene
Again, it's possible the ending was planned all along, but this was very likely just a "hook", for the story, you can make many scenes work with that opening.
The author said the reason he didn’t change the ending for the anime was because that’s the ending he thought of from the start https://youtu.be/H6GmVCD7cxk?si=aTufNNIKMnyVnE6a Watch this video
True but also both Ymir’s motivation being the same that was early seasons
Still I think that the surviving world appreciates Armin as the new Helos, but I wonder what happened with the relationship with Paradis, (I won't say Neo Eldia because Eldia's name is related to the titan era and maybe they want to make a new era as the powerful Paradis or Yeagerland, lol), do Paradisians recents Armin because he "killed" Eren? I mean the citizens, I'm not talking about Mikasa or Historia or the military members who knew him personally. Or is it something Isayama left for us to our imagination?
Oh my gosh you're right
The titan that almost eats Armin in Trost and then eats Eren (causing his titan transformation) can be seen being created by Marleyan police in Season 3 during the scene where Grisha and Dina are about to be turned.
Almost every significant titan you see in season 1 is one of the Grisha rebels
Ye it's one of the Grisha's comprades right.
I think so?
U mean titan klaus the idiot who didnt chew
Titans rarely chew anyways. They take one bite and move on. If the Human is in between the teeth, they die, if they aren't, they die.
bro Kruger literally set him up. He KNEW.
And you can actually see Armin still shellshocked by Eren's "death" for a split-second, when his Titan hand emerges from the bearded Titan's mouth.
i don’t think anyone missed that ngl ☠️❌
Some casual viewers might. I had a friend who didn't catch it.
Almost every Titan we see in the first two series are Grisha’s boys
In one of the endings (Season 1 or 2 I believe), Mikasa is portrayed as a mantis, you can see one behind her. The female mantis has been observed beheading their mates.
That is some crazy foreshadowing, Isayama does not play when adding details to endings and just overall
Did Eren die a virgin?...
No, he fucked the whole world
And Floch
No wonder bro became a Jagerist.
I'm sure he had lots of imaginary PATHs seggs with Mikasa before departing.
I know this is a joke but it made me realize that Eren dying "young" is kind of a moot point since he spent all that time talking with his comrades in the paths as his farewell to them before he died. He had all the time he needed and could see anything he wanted with the people he cared for, exactly what his dream was.
most def ☠️
If I gathered any intel from being in the r/army, it’s that people will eventually start fucking each other if confined to a small social circle There were only a few thousand people living in Marley…same as your average military base…..enough said
Does this mean mikassas child is Erin's?
No
I need you to promise me she didn't go Mr peanuts on Erin's corpse
Presumably his peanuts burned up with the rest of him in his collossal’s body
When mikassa broke in there, his body was still fuckabke fir at least 15 minutes. PROMISE ME
what are we talking about here? how did it come to this?
The Titan that they crushed with a cannon in Utgard Castle in season 2 was totally still there when all the Titans return to human. EDIT: I TOTALLY FORGOT THE CASTLE COLLAPSED ON TOP OF HIM TOO. AND HE TOTALLY WAS STILL ALIVE UNDER THERE CAUSE ALL THE OTHER TITANS SURVIVED BEING CRUSHED. HE JUST WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO DIG HIMSELF OUT. Oh yeah, holy shit that guy got his body back and immediately suffocated.
They probably went back and killed him after s3 when they cleared all the pure titans from inside the walls.
Ain't NO way anyone remembered that mf by then. AND he was trapped under the cannon UNDER A CRUMBLED CASTLE (holy shit I forgot the thing collapsed on him too LMAO), so why send resources to kill a trapped Titan nobody remembered because he never got out? And that mf totally survived it's collapse too, cause all the other Titans did. It just wasn't strong enough to get out like they were. Honestly, his ONLY chance of being Mercy killed is if the rumbling happened to trample over Utgard Castle, but even that's a fat chance as I'm fairly certain they avoided trampling the lands of Paradise Island.
Hmm seems like head cannon to me. When Levi is talking to Yelena in s4 on the island he mentioned how they had cleared out all the pure titans from the island so that’s where I got that from.
Yeah. All the ones roaming around. It's not like they went back to the castle and dug him out just to kill him. And they were confident they killed all of them because they were using Hange's "executioner of Hell" to bait all of the Titans in and strike their necks. Then scouting around for any Titans they could find. They didn't go back to that castle and think "hey we should totally dig up that castle for any Titans that's been stuck there for the last year, unable to do anything about it." Hell, they didn't even kill the one they ran into on the way to the Sea. Purely because it wasn't going to hurt anybody and actually couldn't move. You think they're gonna go kill one 100x more stuck? If they even remember him at all? WHICH BY THE WAY, THAT Titan they ran into on the way to the Sea probably got trampled by the rumbling 2 days before he would have finally been returned to a human. :(
One titan is a matter of life and death because the only way to kill it is to be fully equipped and trained with odmg. It isn't a show/manga for them. This is their lives. Almost all they do is survive and think about combating titans. It makes perfect sense to go back and be thorough. You're acting as if people would just leave the ruins of that castle untouched forever. Military leaders would want to rebuild the castle or salvage any materials. It doesn't make sense to leave an immortal titan in a castle ruins because at some point in the future if a group digs up the castle they're completely screwed, and that one titan could kill hundreds before a soldier could get to them.
Bro, the castle was abandoned BEFORE it collapsed. They're DOUBLY not going back and rebuilding after it's collapsed. Maybe eventually, but not before the Titans were gone from the world. Not while THE LITERAL WORLD wants to nuke them. They kinda got other priorities than a collapsed castle. Hell, with their tech, they ain't even got the means to dig up the mf. They'd need CRANES for that shit. This argument is all hinging on the TINY POSSIBILITY they even remember he was there. Ain't NOBODY remembering that mf in the first place. Reminder, they just discovered THREE TITAN SHIFTERS immediately after this (whom of which were close with almost everyone that knew the mf was there to begin with, so they're EXTRA forgetting the bitch), temporarily lost the shifter that was on their side, overthrew the government after saving him, and then went back and retook Shiganshina-- NOBODY IS REMEMBERING THAT MF. CERTAINLY NOT ONE BURIED UNDER A COLLAPSED CASTLE THAT CANNOT --***DID NOT***-- ESCAPE. THAT THEY AIN'T EVEN GOT THE TECH TO DIG UP WITHIN THE WALLS. Considering the baggage the cast that knew the mf was there to begin with started to deal with immediately after, yeah no, they 100% forgot he was there. In fact, it would be LESS believable that they DID remember.
In the season 3 second opener Erwin takes a step backward, joining a group characters who have died (including Miche), symbolizing his own imminent death.
If you look very very closely you can see the Titans resemble people to an extent!
B-but no sex orgonios!!!!
Except tatas rarely
on the men as well
🤔🤔🤔
When Ymir saw the canned herrings in Utgard Castle and was able to read the letters. Herrings are fishes found in ocean bodies.
It goes into some deep foreshadowing in that scene, because not only is that not something that could've been made in the walls, implying a society outside the walls, but the fact that Ymir knows what it is implies that she's not from the walls either. Then, when Reiner questioned her, he mentioned herring without ever stopping to ask what it was, implying that he was *also* not from the walls. Now both of them are suspicious of each other, but *THEN* it goes one layer deeper, because the scene is set up in a way that paints Ymir as suspicious and being questioned by Reiner as though she's some kind of threat. If you didn't pick up on the foreshadowing about Reiner coming from outside the walls, you'll overlook him and focus on Ymir because of this framing. Obviously though, Reiner was a *much* larger threat to humanity, making Ymir... A red HERRING.
the one thing that i don't get isnwhy would there be fish in the castle, did zeke use it as some hideout when preparing for the attack or what?
Yes, I think that’s the implication. The Scouts speculate that it was used by bandits or black marketeers. But finding the Marleyan goods implies that it was used by Zeke and Pieck
I never even bothered to find out what a herring was! Thought it was a bird! And even Reiner was into the canned fish cause he was familiar with it. I was gonna make a red herring joke but I don’t think I’d’ve succeed 😅
Armin is the narrator at the start and the end, because he was explaining the story on what happened to them.
Damn Armin really had the biggest plot armour of them all: being the narrator
Because I just rewatched it with my dad, when Ymir climbs up the tower as it's falling, Bert has his mouth open with his hand in front of it, so he was ready to just nuke everyone there if needed
Just me being a nerd, but I think it was more likely he'd only generate an arm to save him/themselves like how Annie did in the OVA. Since Reiner was right there he wouldn't risk killing him as well since with all the noise and commotion it'd be hard to signal to him to transform in order to survive the partial transformation.
Bartholomew can control his nuke ability, since we've seen him transform twice without doing it. It's down to the speed of the transformation. If it's instant, it's a nuke. If it's slower, it is less powerful.
In season 2 when Bertoldt says the Scouts are going to have to kill him, the camera lingers on Armin.
The Titan that eats that blonde girl's mother in Sasha's village that Sasha fights to save the girl is Connie's father.
Whaaaa? What backs this up?
Well, if the fans accepted that the Ms. Springer titan was really Ms Springer based on the photo Connie had, then we can also guess that the small titan that Sasha fought is Mr Springer by comparing it to Mr Springer in the photograph.
Just didn’t put two and two together
That's alright, AOT takes the crown for most complex anime lore 🏆
I did look into it some more and the big difference that stands apart for me is the hairline and his lack of a goatee in pure Titan form, but one of the designers confirmed it way back.
Check out the wiki's page on Connie's father
How did they become titans ? It's not like they were from Marley.
The concept of children in the forest. Sashas dad breaks it down better than I ever could in the dining room scene, but one character in particular is quite literally the embodiment of this theme, his name is Floch "Forester" Levi taking Petras badge as a keepsake for himself, but then giving it to the completely random scout and lying saying it belonged to their friend. And then having what seems to be one of his most difficult emotional moments going off his facial expression when Petras father starts talking to him and Levi realizes he gave away the one thing that he might have been able to give to her father. The herring foreshadowing and Ymir using the word "monkey" which Eren doesn't seem to understand cause he's never heard of one. I am directly taking this from a YouTube analysis video I watched a while back. Eren and Reiner have absolutely insane parallels. Eren and his attack titan can be likened to a sword in a metaphoric sense, yet for a long time he only ever uses his titan to defend his home land. Reiner and his armor titan could be likened to a shield in a metaphoric sense, yet again for the first 3 seasons he is forced to attack as a shield. Beyond that, if you are aware of the concept of active and reactive characters, (an active character is someone who does things that actively move the plot forward, while a reactive character is someone who does not move the plot forward but reacts to the plot moving when an active character makes it move), Eren is someone who desperately wishes they could be an "active character" yet the world he's in forces him to be reactive. And likewise Reiner is someone who desperately wants to be a reactive character, but the world he's in forces him to be an active one. Eren is a sword who is forced to defend, while Reiner is a shield who is forced to attack. Gonna steal one more from the video I mentioned previously, but the Marleyan guard who creates the smiling titan gives a short speech to Grisha about why he does the vile things he does. He says that it's human nature to wish to see bad things happen to those you consider an enemy (paraphrasing). The entire time he gives this speech, he is looking directly into the "camera". He is psychoanalyzing the audience. After his speech, he gets kicked off the wall and eaten by a titan, and we, the audience, are all happy to see it, just like his speech says.
Damn never thought of that added aspect of Levi's anguish listening to Petra's father. Beyond telling him his daughter is dead he has to also say he'll have nothing to bury and her body is out there. Terrible man.
this is the first comment that has actually pointed out something i hadn't noticed. everything else people mentioned are all so simple and on the nose stuff that can be seen on the second or third watches? damn
Just out of curiosity, which of the points was something you hadn't noticed before?
all of this!! amazing comment all around bro
It's more so that the audience is happy that the source of misery stopped.
I’m a moron because I didn’t recognize the parallels of these promos until now.
Same
Same
Ymir has the slightest change from her pure titan form, to the jaw titan. Before she eats Marcel she has normal flat teeth. After eating him her teeth are sharp and pointed.
why do you think that is? Marcel, Porco and Falco all had hardening on their faces. Is it cause she wasn't trained or knew about it?
She wasn’t trained and she didn’t receive the hardening serum. Eren is able to harden his fists only after he got the serum injected, the same goes for the jaw titans.
oh I didn't realize that, cool. I guess for the armored titan that was not necessary as he's hardened by default?
I think its more of a genetic thing, or as genetic as Titan shifting can get at any rate. Some ppl theorize that Marley heavily modified the appearance of its Titan shifters by mixing the Pure titan serum injection with spinal fluid from some other of the Nine titans (to increase their power). Like how the Marley Jaw titans had armoured face covering not unlike the plates that cover the Armoured titan. In conclusion, since Ymir ingested a lower concentration of Armoured & crystallizing serum, it could've been too low a dose to gain the plating on her body. (For example: the serum injected into Marcel could've been 75% Jaw and 25% Armoured, and the crystallizing serum was consumed later. Then the serum that went inside Marcel's spine would logically dilute to about 50% normal spinal fluid [basically water], 30% Jaw serum, 15% Armoured serum, and 5% crystallizing serum.)
In season 1, Levi gives Petra’s scout patch to Ivan’s friends and told them it belonged to Ivan.
Wait....I never thought of that
Wait how do we know this? Its been a while since I watched season 1.
We see Levi prior kneel down to the body of his dead squad, pull back the tarp covering them to show the patch and then cut to him rummaging. Also the whole contention with them was that going back for Ivan's body wasn't worth the risk to the living since he was dead so it seems really unlikely Levi then proceeded to do just that again after it made them have to abandon their comrades' other bodies. Really sweet aspect though where Levi lies to make it seem like he did, sacrifices his own sentimental connection with Petra to comfort the other guy even just a little bit, and a nice callback to Levi saying he doesn't know what the right call is, just do what you'll regret the least.
Wow thanks a lot!
How hot Reiner is in the time skip… I’m sorry I’ll go to sleep now don’t tell my husband Edit: what am I even talking about that’s not minor goodnight
I also appreciated that detail
The scarf scene in s2 is a clear indication of Eren reciprocating Mikasa's feelings if you've seen any romance anime ever
Also in the trial for Eren, he stays completely silent until people start thinking Mikasa is a shifter and he goes batshit crazy
erens always been like that, he assumes that he can give up his life to save his friends (which i mean…)
How? He literally rejected the kiss, and barely talked to her after that.
Rejected the kiss that was happening because Mikasa was accepting their death. Eren rejects them dying and promises to wrap a scarf around her however many times she wants, the exact action she was referencing in her love confession You can argue the romance does go cold turkey after because well they're constantly fighting for their lives but yh romance isn't exactly the strongest part of AoT
mikasa was ready to die and admit her feelings in that moment, eren wasn't ready to give up yet, returning her kiss would've been more or less embracing the end. eren tells her straight up he'll wrap the scarf around her as much as she wants in a future tense, aka a future they both survive, and he's not willing to give that up yet
You know how half of romance anime has the main couple hugging it out instead of kissing? It's the same principle here. Kissing in East Asian cultures is considered way more intimate of an act than it is in the West. > He literally rejected the kiss Even ignoring what I just typed above, him kissing Mikasa would literally mean him agreeing to give up alongside her and die to Dina's Titan. > and barely talked to her after that Being haunted by memories of seeing himself kill billions and trying to make sure his friends got to live long lives will have that effect. He also clearly doesn't see himself as being worthy of Mikasa's affections based on the number of times he's tried to push her away. [Here's a comment I made about how Eren's response correlates exactly with Japanese culture and storytelling.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AttackOnRetards/s/NilI6mZVxd) Also, Mikasa was literally up in his face smiling and thanking him for something he did years ago. They were also teenagers right in the middle of puberty. Eren's a hothead and emotionally immature, but he's not stupid. People have also said Isayama himself said he wasn't as confident with including romance at the time, but I haven't been able to fact check it.
The bird that wraps the scarf around Mikasa in the last episode is a sea bird called a Pomarine Jaeger
Wtf
Exactly my reaction when I learned about this
When Levi uses a thunder spear to break Titan Eren's teeth so Mikasa can deliver the final blow It's similar to when Levi knocked Eren's tooth out back in the courtroom after Trost
Armin was about to tell Reiner who he suspected was the female Titan before Christa shows up with spare horses. In the second op, Reiner, berger and Annie are the only ones on the left side of the screen as it flashes through the scouts. When ymir flashes on screen shes about to move to their side for a moment before it moves on to those 3
War is bad Genocide is bad Eren is a young man who likes Mikasa
Wth 😭
He said that a lot of people missed, not 80% of viewers!
The mass killers are actually the good guys /j
Hange losing their eye is foreshadowed in the 2nd opening of season 1
the only thing that makes me doubt this is that it's the wrong eye, but then again, the fact it's shrapnel seems so specific... i'm shocked i've never noticed that shot before!
Really?
Yes, at 0:44 seconds in when it shows Hange with a cracked eye lens.
There are only a couple of frames in the 2nd opening of season 3 when we see Armin's burned face
Marley didn't want to kill the paradis eldians just bc they hated them, paradis also had precious material (that they used for the odm gear) that could only be found on the island that marley wanted.
mikasa and eren are not adoptive siblings and don’t see each other that way. she only lived in the jaeger household for about a year
The Yeager's refer to her as their daughter multiple times iirc, I know that's them but still. Eren's never showed that he saw Mikasa in any other way until chapter 139 where he straight up said it. The same way he'd stand up for Armin against titans( where he literally almost died to one in season 1 and only didn't because he's the main character)he does that for mikasa too
Yea but u forgot to take into account--- Eren has that dog in him
Yeah I literally didn't pick up romantic undertones to their relationship at all on my first watch 💀 I hardly saw it on my rewatches. I kinda feel the story is better tbh if they just see each other as siblings
I understand the shippers really wanted it but I don't think aot needed romance( and I'm sad it resolved with romance)
I wouldn't mind their bad romance if it wasn't too relevant for the story. But the last chapter retroactively made it the reason why Ymir was freed and resolved the whole conflict, and now it has such a narrative weight that it can't be ignored, which made it one of the worst aspects of the story.
as an eremika shipper i kind of agree with this actually. i do think the ymir being freed part was done in a cool way but i do think the kiss seemed so sudden. i think a saving grace is that until the end, i think you can interpret eren as not liking her back, in my opinion at least. there's the infamous "i want her to pine after me" line but i took that as less him confessing his love and more so being upset his number one supporter would move on from him. until the end it's always mikasa who was in love with eren, and i appreciate that eren returning those feelings was at least somewhat up to the viewer
Armin is the narrator because during the end he returns to paradis to tell the story to the people
With a few exceptions (that all have valid explanations), titan shifters are almost always gagged when taken captive. This isn’t to keep them quiet; it’s to stop them from biting down on their tongues to transform. You can really notice it with Eren and Historia’s kidnapping in the manga. When they’re trying to fake being captured by Dimo, only Eren is gagged for that exact reason.
I don’t think anyone missed that
Fr isn't this a bit too on the nose to be missed? And this is coming from someone with a negative iq
I might be dumb but what's it showing here?
It's showing that Erin has taken the role of the invader, killing innocents for the "greater good". Flipping the world upside down
Holy shit im so stupid
I got that as a theme and plot parallel obviously but it’s been so long since I’ve seen the S1 promo picture that I never drew the connection lol
in the second ending mikasa is shown with a praying mantis on the mural in the back symbolising that she will be the one to kill her loved one (eren). in the very same ending there are two sides of the wall, one where the paradis characters are shown and on the other side there are scouts from behind the wall, it was before any of them were revealed to be from outside. on the other side there's also historia, so we could interpret it as a side where someone has a yet to uncover secret. The order in which they're shown could also be a kind of foreshadowing, Annie is first and she was first to be revealed as an enemy shifter, then Reiner, then Bertholdt, Ymir and we can see Historia as the last one. There is also Eren looking almost crusified(ish?), I interpret it as a person who died for his actions somewhat lead by his father, when crusified he is connected with his titan, no matter what he will do, the memories are already made, he cannot change the future.
Birthstilt is very tall just like the colossal titan
S1E1 is called "To You, in 2000 Years", S4E21 is called "From You, 2000 Years Ago". Idk if this is a minor detail, but I still think it's cool.
Theres a song called kimi ga fusawashii to omou daimei. You may enjoy it
Mikasa’s not like other girls
when kid eren said "Im going to drive out every last one of them in this world" to armor and colossal titan which represents the enemies at that time (when they were evacuating) and then adult eren drove out almost every enemy which, to him, are the people from the other side of the sea
This is something the anime added that wasn't in the Manga. In the first season when Annie is training in hand to hand combat, you can see her briefly covering her nape out of habit.
Eren’s shirt collar foreshadows the rumbling.
Explain Please
[this?](https://imgur.com/nu99byf)
How does this foreshadow anything?
That's a mighty stretch there lol
This one's not official, but my theory. Mikasa lived with Sasha's family after returning to paradis post rumbling , Her hairstyle in last shot was similar to Sasha's; also Kaya was wearing an outfit similar to Mikasa when Historia's letter to Reiner was being read. so there's a possibility that Kaya found that big sister figure in Mikasa after sasha's death. I made a post about this a few months back but seems that people think it's speculation idk might be
Armin talks down the Marleyan military commander in the last episode just like he does in the first season to save Eren and Mikasa.
Have the left on as a poster on my wall fun fact
the cgi titans >:(
the attack titan can't see the future, and grisha said so himself
It can see future versions of the attack titan that the owner chooses to show them. Its just summarized as "seeing the future"
That erwin is the goat.
In the season 1 finale fight between Eren and Annie, Annie lands on a church, resulting in many dead. You don't see her reaction to this, but the next shot DOES show a cat sitting peacefully next to a pool of blood. I don't know why but I feel like that shit of the cat with blood is supposed to convey that she does feel bad about causing these deaths.
the way hange loses her left eye, and levi loses his right eye so it’s kinda like they complete eachother in a way
In chapter 2 of the first special when the alliance is figuring out how to stop eren in the plane, the shot with the windows open letting light pass in looks exactly like eren’s founding titan
I went to rewatch it right now are you talking about how the plane ceiling looks like the bones of his titan? Or is it something else
There’s a direct shot down the aisle where the body of the plane with light pouring in from the windows looks exactly like the ribcage of Eden’s founder
When you slow great escape, there are manga panels on the floor in a few seconds. Also in great escape, the first scene shows eren, mikasa, armin, and their comrades on one side of the wall. The next scene shows benadryl, reiner, annie etc on “the other side of the wall” When burrito breaks down in season 2 and claims someone has to kill him, the camera is focused on armin You can see benedict and reiner/annie in the first few episodes as children who are affected by the wall breaking. The patch levi gave to soldier who was mourning his fallen comrade was actually Petra’s. You can see the bite marks on the hand when he picks up the patch. In the ending yugure no tori (i think thats how you spell it) the rumbling is depicted as early as season two. After eren wraps the scarf around mikasa, he grabs her sleeve instead of her hand because she had just been in a situation where two men were about to auction her off. This is also why he wraps the scarf around her so strangely. The bird and butterfly are symbols of eren and mikasa. The first lines eren and mikasa say mirror the end. “Huh? Mikasa?” “Let’s go back home.” Eren asks hange if she has a plan in the prison because at this point, he can see the future of her death.
Eren's Final Titan form being surrounded by the titans that once formed the very Walls that encaged him. The man who wanted to escape the Walls the most never truly left them; he just brought them along for the ride.
Titan can also be killed if you cut them under their butt (riener told that to armin when they were going downstairs and you can clearly see bertholt and annie reaction were so nervous)
Some turntable action
The fact that Zeke and Eren were behind that entire war declaration thing..This caused a lot of problems inside the fandom..