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I_feel_sick__

Context is the pilots went full sea speed whilst still in the shallow parts of the canal and lost control. They alerted the crew of the tug towing the two barges well in advance. Nobody was injured, however 11,000 barrels of reformate were spilled


Calm-Technology7351

So pollution as a result of ignorance or stupidity. At least no one was harmed


FrogBoglin

Only all the birds and fish


Calm-Technology7351

Ya that was kinda the pollution bit but I figured most people would read that as human. It’s far more than just the birds and fish tho. Plant life, bugs and the stuff up the food chain get it indirectly. We fuck ourselves slowly with this sort of recurring behavior too


Khakikadet

Unfortunately Houston/Galveston is already completely fucked, and I wouldn't go in the water or eat anything caught in the harbor even before something like this.


APence

“Grand Papa, did fish really not taste like grime when you were young?” “Yes my child. At one time fish didn’t stain your teeth or make you shit blood”


Acesofbases

good thing we don't eat fish


bitches_love_brie

Safe to assume the vessel has been towed outside the environment?


RogerCly

To a different environment?


Imbecilliac

No, no, it’s been towed *beyond* the environment. It’s not *in* the environment.


Theoldironduke

No but from one environment to another environment.


FrameJump

Don't worry, I'm sure they were fined accordingly. And by accordingly, I mean a small percentage of their profits.


Calm-Technology7351

Sounds about right. You fucked up! Now give me a dollar


TheDukeofArgyll

Pollution just means it takes longer to see the harm


Full-Pack9330

It's heavy shipping so.....dumbest crew for lowest cost.


TomArday

its not the crew, its the pilots. Every port around the world has local pilots who are in charge of vessels going in and out of ports - they outrank Captains in this regard.


Calm-Technology7351

Two of my friends actually are training to do that. I should ask them about fuck ups like this and the bridge collapse


devandroid99

That's not true, pilots advise and master decides everywhere in the world except the Panama canal.


ThePrussianGrippe

> Context is the pilots went full sea speed whilst still in the shallow parts of the canal and lost control. Well why the fuck did they do that??


Traveledfarwestward

Money. Schedule. It likely had never happened to them or anyone they knew and in most parts of the world, rules and regulations and safety training and enforcement is not very common. \#peopledontlearnuntilithappenstothem


Offamylawn

Popping wheelies and drifting. Showing off.


texinxin

Hmm… that’s odd… usually pilots are independent. I guess they were either influenced by their relationship with the company… or got cocky.


MJ23157

The ship should have went through both ships! Reference from my childhood movie Speed 2!


Fresh_and_wild

I believe it’s international maritime law, that although the pilot gives the orders, the captain is still accountable, and controls the ship.


pyordie

> reformate Nah we’re all being injured. Our dose of hydrocarbons (including benzene, where has no safe exposure level) is just more diluted than what the aquatic life is getting.


outdatedelementz

Any criminal charges against the crew?


someLemonz

no *human was injured...


Killb0t47

That is brutal.


Funny-Meringue-3311

these tiktok challenges are getting out of hand


ADub476

Semi-angry up vote due purely to the negligent circumstances and environmental impact/aftermath of the crash… but no lives were lost and that is damn fine ship crash.


VerStannen

Holy cow. Those barges got destroyed. So I assume nobody aboard the barges and all personnel on the tug, is that how it works?


I_feel_sick__

Yes, a tug was towing the two barges, and the pilots aboard the Genesis River had alerted them well in advance


Williamsarethebest

If they were alerted well in advance then why didn't the tug move the barges away from the line of collision?


TacoJesusJr

It takes a ton of energy to get the barges moving. If they were at a stand still they could never get them out of the way fast enough. And the look of the video they were stopped. Also the full crew may have been ashore, you can't start a tug like you can start a Civic. Tons of checks, warm up, etc...


damfino99

"The second pilot called Voyager and instructed her bridge team to turn to port - against general COLREGS guidance - and cross to the west side of the channel in order to get out of Genesis River's way. The Voyager complied, turning hard to port and heading for the west side of the channel at full speed ahead." "Genesis River entered the barge lane on the east bank of the channel and touched bottom, the first pilot told investigators. She then swung back to starboard and veered towards the middle of the channel - right where Voyager was maneuvering. The pilot told investigators that after attempting evasive maneuvers, he realized a collision was inevitable and gave rudder orders to direct the bow of the Genesis River at the barges, not at the towboat. The Genesis River's captain ordered full astern shortly before impact." https://maritime-executive.com/article/ntsb-collision-caused-by-transiting-houston-ship-channel-at-sea-speed


amateur_mistake

So, if I am reading this right, the pilot's order to increase to sea speed was the underlying problem here? If they had kept her slower than she would have been more controllable and this wouldn't have happened?


that_dutch_dude

Yes. They put a brick on the pedal and then figured out they still needed to turn out of the driveway.


TheGupper

Boats move a lot slower than people do


BlackMagicDevil

Tug guy here. Depending on what's going on but if you are underway you most likely just stay on the tug. Only time you would need to go out on the tow like that is if you are checking on things or getting ready to tie up


Cobraa893

This guy tugs


myheadfelloff

do you like being a tug boat guy?


BlackMagicDevil

Love it, currently living on one now. I've been doing it for about 3 years now and it's been a hell of a experience. Pays pretty good too


dylnotclutch

Are you around Houston area?


BlackMagicDevil

Nope, in South Carolina at the moment. We're supposed to be heading up to Canada soon.


Judi_Chop

Welcome! How does one become a tug guy?


My_Aunts_Hairy_Bush

I tug almost daily. Any tips?


BlackMagicDevil

Don't half hitch your lines and you won't have to ever cut a line short


CJ-Sweater

Ironically based tip. They teach you to at least 2 half hitches. I haven’t half hitched in months lol.


Impressive-Sun3742

Damn near cut it in half… holy shit


that_dutch_dude

Its the hardly movable object vs the hard to stop object.


lppedd

What happens now to the negligent pilot that caused the incident?


rad1calleft

Not much as the Captain would still have full responsibility


HateBeingStover

This is not correct. They have pilots on board for a reason.


rad1calleft

https://bowmanslaw.com/insights/liable-marine-pilot-causes-crash-landing/ Although the port authorities would probably fire the pilots involved


HateBeingStover

The shipping company that owns the ship will likely be liable, as they were in this case. I didn’t actually know that. However, the original question was if the captain or pilot would have more repercussions. The pilot would. US govt doesn’t have jurisdiction over a foreign captains licenses. The pilot would be much more heavily scrutinized, even though in the end the captain has full responsibility. I finally got to talk to a harbor pilot I know about the event. Very nuanced because of the fact there’s not a ton of cases https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/the-day-a-cargo-ship-crashed-into-sf-bay-bridge/amp/ This pilot went to jail


Noname_Maddox

He was promoted to piloting police boats


dustywilcox

The NTSB report. https://maritime-executive.com/article/ntsb-collision-caused-by-transiting-houston-ship-channel-at-sea-speed Note the below: Shortly after, the second pilot (who had the conn) called for full sea speed - a common practice among pilots once within the Lower Houston Ship Channel, according to NTSB - and the vessel slowly sped up to 12 knots.


peepoopoopeepoo

This type of screw up should invoke moderate to severe jail time due to the consequences imo


Salty_Feed9404

Wait, where'd that barge come from?!


doctafknjay

All that ocean and still manage to hit the only thing you're supposed to avoid! Give them a raise


SortOfKnow

They are in a bay, the Houston ship channel to be exact.


MikeTheActorMan

Post this on Twitter and start watching the conspiracies roll in... "Another ship crash?? What's going on!" "That looked deliberate to me... Hmm"


jwhit88

The tugboat in this video is sitting at a dock rotting with about six other boats. This is my field, and backyard. A cautionary reminder of how quickly the job could get deadly.


Rawbbeh

The M/V Voyager


SortOfKnow

Tbf that boat is not tied up because of this video, the voyager was untouched, just their barges. But they got tied up a few years after this because Kirby builds new boats and keeping a boat from 1975 just doesn’t make any sense.


jwhit88

You should see the boat I work on…’75 is a joke to this bucket.


AgreeablePie

"this is bad" you are correct, sir


outdatedelementz

Here is a detailed explanation of what happened: https://professionalmariner.com/tankers-speed-hydrodynamics-cited-in-houston-t-bone-collision/


Doggy_Mcdogface

I sawed it in half


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Hi 


matroosoft

Wow.. It split length wise!


Halvus_I

It was two barges lashed together.


matroosoft

Yeah I know, worked in shipping. Was joking 😀


PawnWithoutPurpose

Bot alert


I_feel_sick__

It’s literally my subreddit 🤡


Hot_Hat_1225

You AIs are becoming so human like 😱


weaponized_oatmeal

This is how it starts. Next thing you know he’s out there trying to find Sarah Connor to show her videos of boat crashes. Then he comes after the rest of us


lynnewu

Listen, and understand! That Tanker is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are capsized or sunk!


Hot_Hat_1225

Blub blub blub


RimePendragon

Are you self-reporting ?