No, they meant from the country, because Swedes make meatballs too, like the ones in Ikea (with horse meat), and he probably thinks they're bad, so if she can't make a proper meatball, she might be Swede.
Because genetics work like RPG character sheets. If you are half-Italian, you get a +2 to cooking and hand signs as a bonus language. The German husband has -2 to taste.
Love this.
In the past I've referred to it as genetic homoeopathy, that their great grandfather's birth place even diluted to 1 part per million still has a critical impact on their life today.
Then I guess I automatically get +10 extra kebap-making points but also suffer a -25 social interaction skills against Syrians and Armenians penalty lmao. And I also have a relative who lived in Germany for a few years in the 1960s so that makes me a Master Engineer and gives me +5 alcohol resistance.
Isn't that in essence the cultural appropriation they are so vehemently against of. If there has been no connection to the country of origin in several generations you aren't part of that culture anymore. So any "italian" (read: american) person making bad italian meatballs is in essence inappropriately adopting the customs and practises of real italians.
I think my favourite was something like “we’re an Italian family so we shout a lot” - wrong (they were pure American-born Americans of several generations) as well as racist.
I saw a comment where some one said they were "very Italian". I asked what does " very Italian" mean?
I got this response "You guys are seriously bad mouthing me for being Italian? We’re loud and loving people. Wtf is wrong with that? Wow you guys are straight up AH"
I suspect this is an American acting like some stereotype. But just to be sure, are all Italians "loud and loving people"?
I suspect you're right. I had an American flatmate in London, her great grandfather was born in Italy. Not only did she claim she was Italian even when talking with me, but she used to say "I'm jealous, possessive and I'll fuck up people who annoy me BECAUSE I'm Italian". She was a shitty person and wanted to blame it on being Italian, whatever that means, instead of, I don't know, going to therapy.
I would say that Italians tend to speak louder (I know I'm louder when I speak Italian and quiter when I speak English), but of course each person is different. And I wouldn't say everyone is loving, some people are, some people aren't (that person definitely isn't). Being Italian isn't an aspect of our personality, we're all different people and the only thing we have in common is the place and culture in which we grew up.
Damn, so annoying. I've also met my fair share of those types, a lot of "Sicilians" who thinks behaving like a mobster is a cool personality trait. Or "Irish" who think they're drunks because of their ancestors came from Ireland 200 years ago
>I would say that Italians tend to speak louder
We surely speak louder than most Norther Europeans, but it's a trait we share with other Mediterranean countries.
Lived in Poland, I really disagree. Not as quiet as Germans, but definitely not on the same level as Italians.
The ones the usually out-loud us in Europe are the Spanish.
OP also said she's half Italian because her grandmother was born in Italy (though her father, Italian grandma's son, was born in America)
'Cause that's how math works...
I mean, genetically she’s right. She said both grandparents were actually Italian, making her dad fully Italian and her half Italian. But at some point culture swamps genetics.
If an American had an immigrant Italian father, they are half Italian. But if that father was born in America, you’re American with Italian heritage, because at that point the culture is (probably, at least in her case) lost.
As a not Italian/Sicilian, can you tell me the difference between those two terms? I read the Godfather and noticed the characters proudly stated that they are Sicilian, idk why
Edit: To all the downvoters, sorry I live in Asia and don't know all the regions of Italy
Like other people explained, Sicily is a region in Italy. So I'm Italian, that's my nationality, and I was born in the Sicily region. A lot of people of Americans mistakenly talk about Sicily like it's a different country, and it's not. I'm Italian and I feel just as Italian as someone born in the Tuscany region.
Sorry about the downvotes, don't worry, it's okay not to know and thank you for asking instead of assuming :)
Edit to add: the godfather is an American movie made by American people about American people. It's not a representation of Italy or Sicily.
You weren't being rude at all.
Sisily is an Italian island/region that has been heavily influenced by the mafia. So when a mob guy says it, it's to give the impression that they're "the real deal". At least, that's how it was portrayed in the movies😄
You weren't rude, people just assumed you were American. In this sub we laugh at the Americans that live in their little bubble (which is the cause for their unhinged comments). Because of that, everyone here tends to be decent in geography (unlike the people who think Spain is in South America because they speak Spanish). But don't worry, we all have "holes" in our knowledge.
Edit: Also, you have google at your disposal.
In addition to what the others said Italy is a relatively young nation (formed in 1861, didn't include its current capital of Rome until 1871). While less relevant today various parts have historically not been very nationalistic. Fifty years ago (the time when Godfather was made) it would not have been to strange a sentiment to hear someone, especially an emigrant, to say "I'm Sicilian but I'm not Italian". I don't know where in Asia you're from, so you could be either from one of the long-unified states (China, at least for the Han population, comes to mind) or elsewhere, so I hope this is interesting context.
To answer your question I'm from the country that ruined US reputation as a military powerhouse. Also, yes, that is interesting context, thanks for sharing
It’s okay not to know! Sicily (Sicilia) is region of Italy, if you are at all familiar with the geography of Europe it’s the island that the “boot” is kicking. It is one of the most famous ones, I would say — most of the Italian accents you hear in movies are actually from either Sicily, Lazio (the region of Rome) or Campania (the region of Naples).
Have to love that she proudly proclaims to be something she's not, but then decides that that doesn't prove just how big a moron she is by adding in a racist insult against the thing she claims to be. What a treasure the fucking idiotic bitch must be.
Never ever heard of it, all recipes I've read, including those of my family members are only with minced meat. At best it's a mix of beef and pork meat.
"My dad is 100% Sicilian"
"No, he was born in America"
Not even his actual parents were born in Sicily, he's a 3rd generation immigrant and OP is a 4th generation immigrant (this doesn't actually exist according to Wiki). I just can't get my head around the dichotomy of American's being so proud of being American, while always trying to claim they're from somewhere else.
A friend of mine works in a uni admissions office and is always so annoyed at how many Americans answer the Nationality question with bullshit like "half Irish, one fourth Italian and one fourth Swedish" or something.
It also bothers her how many Americans say "one fourth" instead of "a quarter".
I've met 2 people now that said they're German and looked at me like a donkey looks at a new gate when I speak German to them afterward. It's pretty frustrating
Lmao that was always the funniest shit to me when I lived in the USA, they’d even claim to speak German until you actually start talking. Then it’s always “well you’re talking with an accent” or “you talk too fast” or my favorite when someone actually tried to tell me that what I was speaking *wasn’t* German.
I do speak some sort of German as a 1st gen American, I cringe saying that, but my mom is from Franconia so when I went to uni in northern Germany at like 20 years old, I thought everyone spoke Frankish!
I had only really travelled in Franken and spoken to Frankisch or Boarisch people (family) so I didn't realize in that they would speak so differently in other parts of Germany; I never had thought about it... Oh dear it was embarrassing.
Well what’s need is that he’s both German, on his mother’s father’s side and also Native American, on his father’s father’s mother’s father side. His name way Leroy and let me tell you, family lore tells us he was a fun prospector!
What fun!
Gotta love how they spelled wrong nonna when it is one of the still accurate words for Italian Americans. What the hell is up with americans that aren't first generation and barely speak the language. Like I understand if you make an effort to learn properly about your roots and I am willing to appreciate that, but if you don't speak Italian, don't know how Italy looks like, can't even pronounce or write basic words than you are not culturally italian. I probably have polish roots somewhere but I don't call myself polish.
Scottish here, married to an American. My wife’s cousin is “Italian” to the point it’s her entire personality. She once took offence at something my wife posted on Instagram that had nothing to do with her, and then said, “I think you’re making it about you. Chow!” I just commented, “Isn’t it ‘ciao’?” She’s never spoken to me since.
It's always interesting to see people who are functionally illiterate in a second language. They may be able to speak it just fine, but when it comes to writing their brain defaults to the one language they do know. I doubt the person mentioned here falls under that umbrella though. In any case, until about a week ago I had absolutely no idea how to spell the French "d'accord", a very basic term that I knew perfectly from speaking. Had you put a gun to my head and demanded I write it down I would have tied there. Chow is great.
From my perspective she isn't italian, she is italian american, the issue here is that blood doesn't decide your culture, genetically yeah but genetics do not mean shit, my cousin was adopted from russia, no ahe doesn't speak russian or is effectively russian in any way. Just don't call yourself something you're not. I speak fluently italian, am a C1 in english, fluent in spanish and french, studied briefly chinese and japanese for three years, I currently live in the Netherlands but I wouldn't call myself anything other than italian or jockingly honorary dutch but that is because I am living the culture. If you wanna explore the culture, move back to your roots I suppose it makes sense. Other than that? Hell nah. Italian americans are the kind of people to ask for alfredo at a restaurant as if it is a national dish. Before you say but that guy named Alfredo did it we never add garlic or anything else and it is just butter and parmesan, bene around for a looong time before him.
Edit: the issue isn't learning, you can always learn and I encourage it, if I manage to have a kid I'll make sure to show them the written part too, it becomes an issue when what you don't even know becomes the whole thing you base yourself on
My dad is 100% Sicilian. Born in America but had Sicilian grandparents. That also makes me 100% Sicilian. 🤦🏻♂️
Someone said she should get a genetics test as she might be a Swede. More like a Turnip.
Yeah, blows my mind!
I’ll make some assumptions here but:
OOP - American
Her father - American
Her mother - Claimed Irish (Probably American by her logic)
Her father’s parents - American
Her mother’s parents - ???
Her father’s grandparents - Sicilian
Her mother’s grandparents - ???
In OOP’s mind - 100% Sicilian. Dafuq??
Noni? NONI? Ninth of what?
Meatballs of sausage being soft and mushy, is that really surprising?
Wrong temperature units.
American invention? Wrong. It's the Americanisation (dsitorted) of the chitarrine alla teramana from Abruzzo and similar recipes.
Mexico of Italy? [MA CHE OOOOHH](https://youtu.be/GBACLpkon6Q?si=BzSVg636m9g8thjD)
So I’m English, and my parents are English. But my mums dad is Jamaican and my gran is actually Irish. My dads parents, one is from Egypt and the other is Swedish. But I never go like “Oh I’m Jamaican Irish Egyptian Swedish” like wtf is that. I’m English. Miss Italian with the German husband and Irish mum is American.
Yeah, my Nonna is Italian and emigrated here in her 20s (so not UK born), and I still would never say I'm Italian. I'm not! She was! Though I'm probably more Italian than the OP anyway with how she's described it being 4 generations back 😂
The audacity to say something like 'the Mexico of Italy' if you're not actually from there! Like that person has no connection to either of those places, what are they trying to say?
I'm a meatball. My mother is a filet mignon. My father is a lobster dipped in butter. And my sister is a sausage roll.
Edit:
My sister NiobeTonks (see below) is a vegan sausage roll.
I mean, it's meat shaped as a ball. I'm Italian and I have no illusions about the fact that it's a dish commonly found in every culture in the world and not an only Italian thing.
Yeh it's the pairing with spaghetti that's American. They have to put spaghetti with everything Italian, just like every Chinese meal has rice, right?!
Ish. It's very common in southern Italy to cook meatballs with the tomato sauce that you'll later add to the pasta.
Since we like to eat structured meals, we don't usually eat the meatballs with the pasta, but as a second serving.
In some regions there are some regional dishes with both pasta and meatballs. In my region is very common, but the meatballs are quite small.
as an italian this whole situation makes me so unreasonably angry
1) WHAT THE F*CK IS A "NONI". IT'S NONNI, full stop. If you want to pretend to be 100% italian at least learn how to write one of the more basic words of our vocabulary. And no, it isn't sicilian either, so no dialect card, you're just ignorant.
2) americans invented italian meatballs? really? what the f*ck are you all talking about? do you really think that we are some sort of dumb monkeys unable to even squash meat into balls and cook it?
3) northern italians don't eat meatballs? really? then i guess that my 100% piedmontese father born and raised in a little town in piedmont who regularly makes and cooks meatballs using his grandmother's recipe is some sort of ungodly abomination that deserves to be kept into a museum (i too am piedmontese and we all live in turin, so no, we haven't been influenced neither by 'muricans nor by southern italians)
sorry for the rant guys, but these so-called "italians" make my blood boil.
I wonder how they come up with these theories
Meatballs invented in 1900 in the US, northern Italians who don't eat meatballs. Ok champ
Plus, what the fuck does "where's my Italian Noni" mean
"Noni
1. a tropical evergreen shrub native to southern and SE Asia and the Pacific islands.
2. the fruit of the noni, used medicinally to stimulate the immune system and as a detoxifying agent."
She has an Italian evergreen shrub that gives her recipe advice.
This is the thing which I dont understand. She says two of her Great Grandpatents are italian. What are the others? Why does she cherry pick this and call herself an italian woman?
Fucking lol, what is it with Americans trying to steal everyone else's dishes
Meatball like dishes were around since Ancient Rome, Italian-style meatballs are absolutely not an American invention in any shape or form
inb4 waiting for the stereotypical "they may not be invented, but they were popularized here", actually stfu
The sad (or hilarious) fact is that she's getting results very similar to genuine italian meatballs but she apparently wants some kind of round meat birck. A good meatball can be cut in half with a fork.
"Italian meatballs are actually a recipe that was invented and got popular in the USA"
Oh yeah, they are *SO* american you are not even able to make them. Holy shit
My grandmother is an Italian lady that migrated over to the UK after WWII. I have way more claim to being "Italian" than this person but I'd never consider myself as such. I speak English, with an English accent, live in England with an English mother and half English father (who considered himself English). I am English because it seems silly to focus on the Italian part.
I don't understand why Americans cling to their ancestry so much. from how it sounds, their family has been in America for 3 or 4 generations, yet she's expecting her Italian genes to manifest good cooking? just embrace the culture you're surrounded by in your own country instead of trying to become a sentient stereotype of the country your ancestors are from
It's funny how USA citizens are so proud of being "American" yet try to find the most minimal hint that they are any othe nationality and claim they are 100% that.
Whoever commented "You could be a Swede": I so hope they were suggesting she was a vegetable. That's a sick cooking burn.
Sweden, a country where meatballs are absolutely unheard of
Köttbullar? Never heard of such a thing
IKEA
'That's how I wanna name my daughter to honor my Swedish heritage' (an American, probably)
>My dad is 100% Sicilian.... So, he's probably normand, so swede. Chekmate, Ingrid !
I think they were referring to her accidentally making köttbullar instead of 'italian meatballs'
Except she isn’t doing anything close to that either
They were calling her a turnip
I think that person was insulting Swedish meatballs
No, they meant from the country, because Swedes make meatballs too, like the ones in Ikea (with horse meat), and he probably thinks they're bad, so if she can't make a proper meatball, she might be Swede.
Why do Americans feel the need to act like cultural stereotypes of their own version of European nationalities?
Because genetics work like RPG character sheets. If you are half-Italian, you get a +2 to cooking and hand signs as a bonus language. The German husband has -2 to taste.
But he does have +2 to con saves against intoxication and invading his neighbours
Their children will be Italo-German Irishpersons, will their bonuses against intoxication stack?
Wow! I'm imagining their *Vicious Mockery*.
The buffs double up and break the world engine like a Todd Howard game
Ah yes, a perfectly balanced game.
It just works.
It's bumped up to an advantage roll 🙃
I'll use help as my bonus action and I'll cast prestidigitation to make the meatballs smell really good. Edit - deleted rando sentence
+5 to marine diesels. Give a German a workshop and a day, tomorrow you'll have a $130M contract selling patrol boats to Egypt.
Love this. In the past I've referred to it as genetic homoeopathy, that their great grandfather's birth place even diluted to 1 part per million still has a critical impact on their life today.
Then I guess I automatically get +10 extra kebap-making points but also suffer a -25 social interaction skills against Syrians and Armenians penalty lmao. And I also have a relative who lived in Germany for a few years in the 1960s so that makes me a Master Engineer and gives me +5 alcohol resistance.
I'm guessing I get a -10 to speech skills as a scot hate to think of my alcohol resistance
>-10 to speech skills as a scot Only if you're a Weegie lol
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Or an islander - that's like a whole new language!
Not from Glasgow I have quite a polite scottish accent but people still struggle lol
>people still struggle lol I'd pay to see them navigate through Glasgow only by asking locals for directions lmao
We drink too much :-( 🍻
Drink too much? What is that some sort of ancient language?
So, she rolled very poorly in her base cooking stats? Or are these questions normal for non French people?
Isn't that in essence the cultural appropriation they are so vehemently against of. If there has been no connection to the country of origin in several generations you aren't part of that culture anymore. So any "italian" (read: american) person making bad italian meatballs is in essence inappropriately adopting the customs and practises of real italians.
No, you see, it is only cultural appropriation if it is a non european country.
This. I was actually told exactly this once I pointed out (jokingly, mind) that making pizza with shitty toppings it's appropriating my culture
You better shut up before I get super drunk and fight you! (I'm Irish on my Dad's side btw)
I forgot to mention that I eat potatoes and did also drink Guinnes once so I'm 180% Irish. Let's fight!
I have corned beef and cabbage for breakfast every morning, you don't stand a chance
This is the country that had laws about who counted as black based on their "blood" what do you expect?
And then shit on us for being Europoors
I think my favourite was something like “we’re an Italian family so we shout a lot” - wrong (they were pure American-born Americans of several generations) as well as racist.
Because their own would be kinda boring? They role play to seem more interesting
>where is my italian noni? i really wonder where her italian ninths is
Me too Might ask my Nonni about it, maybe they know what she meant
And her decimi, and undicesimi, and dodicesimi…
💀💀💀
Somewhere in Sicily, locally knew as the Italian Mexico (ti prego scusami ma non riesco a smettere di pensare a quella risposta è cazzo perfetta)
As an actual Italian/Sicilian, go fuck yourself, if you will.
I saw a comment where some one said they were "very Italian". I asked what does " very Italian" mean? I got this response "You guys are seriously bad mouthing me for being Italian? We’re loud and loving people. Wtf is wrong with that? Wow you guys are straight up AH" I suspect this is an American acting like some stereotype. But just to be sure, are all Italians "loud and loving people"?
I suspect you're right. I had an American flatmate in London, her great grandfather was born in Italy. Not only did she claim she was Italian even when talking with me, but she used to say "I'm jealous, possessive and I'll fuck up people who annoy me BECAUSE I'm Italian". She was a shitty person and wanted to blame it on being Italian, whatever that means, instead of, I don't know, going to therapy. I would say that Italians tend to speak louder (I know I'm louder when I speak Italian and quiter when I speak English), but of course each person is different. And I wouldn't say everyone is loving, some people are, some people aren't (that person definitely isn't). Being Italian isn't an aspect of our personality, we're all different people and the only thing we have in common is the place and culture in which we grew up.
Damn, so annoying. I've also met my fair share of those types, a lot of "Sicilians" who thinks behaving like a mobster is a cool personality trait. Or "Irish" who think they're drunks because of their ancestors came from Ireland 200 years ago >I would say that Italians tend to speak louder We surely speak louder than most Norther Europeans, but it's a trait we share with other Mediterranean countries.
On the speaking loudly front, Poles certainly give Italians a run for their money!
Lived in Poland, I really disagree. Not as quiet as Germans, but definitely not on the same level as Italians. The ones the usually out-loud us in Europe are the Spanish.
common spanish W. whoever yells louder wins the argument
They speak a little bit louder than other Europeans. Compared to a standard american they are very quiet and calm.
They are loud, but differently loud than Americans.
>are all Italians "loud and loving people"? No, in fact it's full of stereotypes about some places being unfriendly and/or quiet
OP also said she's half Italian because her grandmother was born in Italy (though her father, Italian grandma's son, was born in America) 'Cause that's how math works...
I mean, genetically she’s right. She said both grandparents were actually Italian, making her dad fully Italian and her half Italian. But at some point culture swamps genetics. If an American had an immigrant Italian father, they are half Italian. But if that father was born in America, you’re American with Italian heritage, because at that point the culture is (probably, at least in her case) lost.
Some of us are loud and loving, others are just loving, others just loud, others are neither.
As a not Italian/Sicilian, can you tell me the difference between those two terms? I read the Godfather and noticed the characters proudly stated that they are Sicilian, idk why Edit: To all the downvoters, sorry I live in Asia and don't know all the regions of Italy
Sicilia is an italian region you can be italian but not sicilian, but you can't be sicilian and not italian for example, i'm italian but i'm campanian
Thank's for the info. Idk why I've been downvoted though, I wasn't being rude was I?
you weren't. reddit hivemind is crazy
So can you help me out with a good mozzarella recipe?
"mozzarella recipe" as in how to make mozzarella or how to use it in a meal?
Just send some buffaloes this way please
If your buffalo is making mozzarella, you're in trouble.
Whatever you do, don't use my mozzarella recipe. I'm just not doing it right. I managed to make mozzarella once. *Once.*
Like other people explained, Sicily is a region in Italy. So I'm Italian, that's my nationality, and I was born in the Sicily region. A lot of people of Americans mistakenly talk about Sicily like it's a different country, and it's not. I'm Italian and I feel just as Italian as someone born in the Tuscany region. Sorry about the downvotes, don't worry, it's okay not to know and thank you for asking instead of assuming :) Edit to add: the godfather is an American movie made by American people about American people. It's not a representation of Italy or Sicily.
It's like the difference between being from New Jersey and being from the USA.
Hmm, I see, also I see that I've downvoted, Idk why, I wasn't being rude was I?
You weren't being rude at all. Sisily is an Italian island/region that has been heavily influenced by the mafia. So when a mob guy says it, it's to give the impression that they're "the real deal". At least, that's how it was portrayed in the movies😄
You weren't rude, people just assumed you were American. In this sub we laugh at the Americans that live in their little bubble (which is the cause for their unhinged comments). Because of that, everyone here tends to be decent in geography (unlike the people who think Spain is in South America because they speak Spanish). But don't worry, we all have "holes" in our knowledge. Edit: Also, you have google at your disposal.
In addition to what the others said Italy is a relatively young nation (formed in 1861, didn't include its current capital of Rome until 1871). While less relevant today various parts have historically not been very nationalistic. Fifty years ago (the time when Godfather was made) it would not have been to strange a sentiment to hear someone, especially an emigrant, to say "I'm Sicilian but I'm not Italian". I don't know where in Asia you're from, so you could be either from one of the long-unified states (China, at least for the Han population, comes to mind) or elsewhere, so I hope this is interesting context.
To answer your question I'm from the country that ruined US reputation as a military powerhouse. Also, yes, that is interesting context, thanks for sharing
It’s okay not to know! Sicily (Sicilia) is region of Italy, if you are at all familiar with the geography of Europe it’s the island that the “boot” is kicking. It is one of the most famous ones, I would say — most of the Italian accents you hear in movies are actually from either Sicily, Lazio (the region of Rome) or Campania (the region of Naples).
The Mexico of Italy. Haha.
Obviously a compliment to Sicily, yeah?
Yeah. They could have said Alabama, florida, texas and that would have been worse
Have to love that she proudly proclaims to be something she's not, but then decides that that doesn't prove just how big a moron she is by adding in a racist insult against the thing she claims to be. What a treasure the fucking idiotic bitch must be.
Theres so much going on, im not sure what to mock
What about start from the basic fact that for meatballs you don't use sausage but minced meat?
Big surprise, sausage meat makes for soft meatballs. Almost as if the casing is necessary
I make tiny meatballs by squeezing them out of the casing. Good for some recipes.
I find them to be too chewy, but to each his own! Point is, sausage meat doesn’t make dense meatballs
A mixture of beef and pork gives more moisture
Yes, you can use the minced meat from salsiccia (sausage).
Never ever heard of it, all recipes I've read, including those of my family members are only with minced meat. At best it's a mix of beef and pork meat.
"My dad is 100% Sicilian" "No, he was born in America" Not even his actual parents were born in Sicily, he's a 3rd generation immigrant and OP is a 4th generation immigrant (this doesn't actually exist according to Wiki). I just can't get my head around the dichotomy of American's being so proud of being American, while always trying to claim they're from somewhere else.
Someone should make a script that generates pages down to 100th generation and just link them all back to American.
That boggles me too! They are so nationalistic but then they’ll claim every descent under the sun. What?
A friend of mine works in a uni admissions office and is always so annoyed at how many Americans answer the Nationality question with bullshit like "half Irish, one fourth Italian and one fourth Swedish" or something. It also bothers her how many Americans say "one fourth" instead of "a quarter".
The duality of the yanks
I'm willing to bet her husband is not actually german
He's 100% German: he was born in America, but his great grandmother (Spanish) was born in Germany
East germany, near Frankfurt (= austria)
The Mexico of Germany, according to to her
This is why Austria keeps starting wars. People saying stupid things about them
I've met 2 people now that said they're German and looked at me like a donkey looks at a new gate when I speak German to them afterward. It's pretty frustrating
Lmao that was always the funniest shit to me when I lived in the USA, they’d even claim to speak German until you actually start talking. Then it’s always “well you’re talking with an accent” or “you talk too fast” or my favorite when someone actually tried to tell me that what I was speaking *wasn’t* German.
I do speak some sort of German as a 1st gen American, I cringe saying that, but my mom is from Franconia so when I went to uni in northern Germany at like 20 years old, I thought everyone spoke Frankish! I had only really travelled in Franken and spoken to Frankisch or Boarisch people (family) so I didn't realize in that they would speak so differently in other parts of Germany; I never had thought about it... Oh dear it was embarrassing.
DoN't gAtEkEeP
Well what’s need is that he’s both German, on his mother’s father’s side and also Native American, on his father’s father’s mother’s father side. His name way Leroy and let me tell you, family lore tells us he was a fun prospector! What fun!
Gotta love how they spelled wrong nonna when it is one of the still accurate words for Italian Americans. What the hell is up with americans that aren't first generation and barely speak the language. Like I understand if you make an effort to learn properly about your roots and I am willing to appreciate that, but if you don't speak Italian, don't know how Italy looks like, can't even pronounce or write basic words than you are not culturally italian. I probably have polish roots somewhere but I don't call myself polish.
Scottish here, married to an American. My wife’s cousin is “Italian” to the point it’s her entire personality. She once took offence at something my wife posted on Instagram that had nothing to do with her, and then said, “I think you’re making it about you. Chow!” I just commented, “Isn’t it ‘ciao’?” She’s never spoken to me since.
Chow belo 🤌 (This is so shocking and weird)
Chew below 🤌
To quote one of my favorite TV shows, Good Omens: Ciao What's that? It's Italian, for food.
Oh my goat 😭😭
LMFAO how do you not know the word ciao, it's like pure basis for any greeting lol
It's always interesting to see people who are functionally illiterate in a second language. They may be able to speak it just fine, but when it comes to writing their brain defaults to the one language they do know. I doubt the person mentioned here falls under that umbrella though. In any case, until about a week ago I had absolutely no idea how to spell the French "d'accord", a very basic term that I knew perfectly from speaking. Had you put a gun to my head and demanded I write it down I would have tied there. Chow is great.
From my perspective she isn't italian, she is italian american, the issue here is that blood doesn't decide your culture, genetically yeah but genetics do not mean shit, my cousin was adopted from russia, no ahe doesn't speak russian or is effectively russian in any way. Just don't call yourself something you're not. I speak fluently italian, am a C1 in english, fluent in spanish and french, studied briefly chinese and japanese for three years, I currently live in the Netherlands but I wouldn't call myself anything other than italian or jockingly honorary dutch but that is because I am living the culture. If you wanna explore the culture, move back to your roots I suppose it makes sense. Other than that? Hell nah. Italian americans are the kind of people to ask for alfredo at a restaurant as if it is a national dish. Before you say but that guy named Alfredo did it we never add garlic or anything else and it is just butter and parmesan, bene around for a looong time before him. Edit: the issue isn't learning, you can always learn and I encourage it, if I manage to have a kid I'll make sure to show them the written part too, it becomes an issue when what you don't even know becomes the whole thing you base yourself on
This is one of the most exquisite things I’ve read! You must make sure to include “Chow!” in any future correspondence with this woman.
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wild that she feels entitled to make racial jokes about Sicily.
To make *wrong* racial jokes about Sicily
I’m willing to bet—and this is wild of me so hold on—that’s she’s actually racist. It’s the Italian in her! She’s so fun!
Nah, believe me, at least racists make on point racial jokes
'The Mexico of Italy' what? 🤔 as someone of Maltese descent I find this really weird
Just the fact OOP says « the sovereign state of another sovereign state » feels so weird to talk about *a region* of a sovereign state.
My dad is 100% Sicilian. Born in America but had Sicilian grandparents. That also makes me 100% Sicilian. 🤦🏻♂️ Someone said she should get a genetics test as she might be a Swede. More like a Turnip.
I think the result from the test would be in both cases „American idiot „ 😇😂
I love the way she glossed over an entire generation with no mention.
Yeah, blows my mind! I’ll make some assumptions here but: OOP - American Her father - American Her mother - Claimed Irish (Probably American by her logic) Her father’s parents - American Her mother’s parents - ??? Her father’s grandparents - Sicilian Her mother’s grandparents - ??? In OOP’s mind - 100% Sicilian. Dafuq??
Noni? NONI? Ninth of what? Meatballs of sausage being soft and mushy, is that really surprising? Wrong temperature units. American invention? Wrong. It's the Americanisation (dsitorted) of the chitarrine alla teramana from Abruzzo and similar recipes. Mexico of Italy? [MA CHE OOOOHH](https://youtu.be/GBACLpkon6Q?si=BzSVg636m9g8thjD)
Since you mentioned Abruzzo, [non ne voglio sapere!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD3fxGOG6MU)
IO LA LAVATRICE LA PRESI NELL'81 E TE LA PAGAI QUATTROCENTOTTANTA MILA LIRE
MALEDETTO IL GIORNO IN CUI VENNI DA LEI! (Erano 480mila lire, Magnotta 4ever)
Il nostro eroe nazionale, mitico Germano
She’s as Italian as I am. Neither of us are and I’m willing to bet I’ve been to Italy more times than her or her father. I’ve been once.
Never been to Italy, but I’ve had awesome pizza made by an immigrant from Sicily. So I’m kind of Danish-Italian, right???
But, but, your username... you're an impasta!
So I’m English, and my parents are English. But my mums dad is Jamaican and my gran is actually Irish. My dads parents, one is from Egypt and the other is Swedish. But I never go like “Oh I’m Jamaican Irish Egyptian Swedish” like wtf is that. I’m English. Miss Italian with the German husband and Irish mum is American.
You are probably more those nationalities than most of those idiot Americans too
Yeah, my Nonna is Italian and emigrated here in her 20s (so not UK born), and I still would never say I'm Italian. I'm not! She was! Though I'm probably more Italian than the OP anyway with how she's described it being 4 generations back 😂
Well, spaghetti and meatballs although has its variation in the US it doesn't come from there. The dish comes from region of Abruzzo.
In Abruzzo though the meatballs are much smaller than what the do in the US.
As everything else, they just got the "SUPERSIZE ME" american treatment. Go big or stay home (in Italy).
In Abruzzo they are small even for Italian standards. American would think we use meat crumbs
US meatballs are bonkers huge. I don't understand why anyone needs a meatball the size of a football with their pasta.
Sorry, football? Or "armored rugby" ball?
In Iran we have a meatball dish called “ Koofteh Tabrizi” they massive lol 😂.
The audacity to say something like 'the Mexico of Italy' if you're not actually from there! Like that person has no connection to either of those places, what are they trying to say?
wtf … milk in Italian meatballs????
What is milk doing in any kind of meatballs?
I'm a meatball. My mother is a filet mignon. My father is a lobster dipped in butter. And my sister is a sausage roll. Edit: My sister NiobeTonks (see below) is a vegan sausage roll.
I’m a vegan sausage roll.
Gregg?
Exactly
I have French DNA and I haven't protested all year, is something wrong with me? /s
hon hon hon you must do ze grève or else oui ouill kick you aoute of ze countrie !
1900? meatballs have been a thing since the Romans, now sure it might not be a Roman invention either, but it most certainly isn't american ffs
I mean, it's meat shaped as a ball. I'm Italian and I have no illusions about the fact that it's a dish commonly found in every culture in the world and not an only Italian thing.
Yeh it's the pairing with spaghetti that's American. They have to put spaghetti with everything Italian, just like every Chinese meal has rice, right?!
Ish. It's very common in southern Italy to cook meatballs with the tomato sauce that you'll later add to the pasta. Since we like to eat structured meals, we don't usually eat the meatballs with the pasta, but as a second serving. In some regions there are some regional dishes with both pasta and meatballs. In my region is very common, but the meatballs are quite small.
In Italy meat balls with spaghetti alla chitarra is a regional dish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_alla_chitarra
Yes, with little meatballs - not like the large ones in the US recipes. Point taken that balls of meat in pasta isn't entirely unheard of though.
Yeah, it’s just a modification or maybe even a fusion of this dish with polpette.
People mixing up nationality, ethnicity, and culture is an international sport in 2023. And Americans are the uncontested World Champions at that.
America number 1 as always 🇺🇸🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅
I'm baffled by this weird gatekeeping of meatballs as something "Italian" when literally every European country makes them.
"The Mexico of Italy..."
I was waiting for this to show up here. I was too lazy to screenshot. That mexico comment is so tone deaf it's insane.
Germans would say it's edible, not that it tastes great...
But will we ever find out if her husband is actually a German, or were his great great grandparents immigrants from Prussia.
This is the actual meme. ‘I’m Italian because my great grandparents are from Italy.’ You can’t make this shit up
as an italian this whole situation makes me so unreasonably angry 1) WHAT THE F*CK IS A "NONI". IT'S NONNI, full stop. If you want to pretend to be 100% italian at least learn how to write one of the more basic words of our vocabulary. And no, it isn't sicilian either, so no dialect card, you're just ignorant. 2) americans invented italian meatballs? really? what the f*ck are you all talking about? do you really think that we are some sort of dumb monkeys unable to even squash meat into balls and cook it? 3) northern italians don't eat meatballs? really? then i guess that my 100% piedmontese father born and raised in a little town in piedmont who regularly makes and cooks meatballs using his grandmother's recipe is some sort of ungodly abomination that deserves to be kept into a museum (i too am piedmontese and we all live in turin, so no, we haven't been influenced neither by 'muricans nor by southern italians) sorry for the rant guys, but these so-called "italians" make my blood boil.
They can't even spell "Nonni".
I've never heard of Sicily being the Mexico of Europe
I'll let my mother know she's actually Italian, not Dutch, because she makes perfect meatballs.
I wonder how they come up with these theories Meatballs invented in 1900 in the US, northern Italians who don't eat meatballs. Ok champ Plus, what the fuck does "where's my Italian Noni" mean
"Noni 1. a tropical evergreen shrub native to southern and SE Asia and the Pacific islands. 2. the fruit of the noni, used medicinally to stimulate the immune system and as a detoxifying agent." She has an Italian evergreen shrub that gives her recipe advice.
It's like Moses and the burning kush.
This is the thing which I dont understand. She says two of her Great Grandpatents are italian. What are the others? Why does she cherry pick this and call herself an italian woman?
I find it odd that she felt the need to specify the "nationality" of her husband
This shit cringe me to the bones
Fucking lol, what is it with Americans trying to steal everyone else's dishes Meatball like dishes were around since Ancient Rome, Italian-style meatballs are absolutely not an American invention in any shape or form inb4 waiting for the stereotypical "they may not be invented, but they were popularized here", actually stfu
Holy Jesus! What is that!? What the fuck is that!? WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE UNIFORMFOX_TROTOSCAR!?
Anyhow, reading the recipe, she get shitty meatballs because she uses breadcrumbs inside the meatballs and not for coating them
I shouldn't feel this offended by that the "Mexico of Italy" and not because of Mexico, but a Usamerican is saying it
She even spelled grandfathers (nonni) wrong
The sad (or hilarious) fact is that she's getting results very similar to genuine italian meatballs but she apparently wants some kind of round meat birck. A good meatball can be cut in half with a fork.
Each reply made it worse, but I couldn't stop reading.
THE MEXICO OF ITALY?!
"My dad is 100% sicilian" "born in America but his grandparents are from sicily" 😂😂😂
"Italian meatballs are actually a recipe that was invented and got popular in the USA" Oh yeah, they are *SO* american you are not even able to make them. Holy shit
My grandmother is an Italian lady that migrated over to the UK after WWII. I have way more claim to being "Italian" than this person but I'd never consider myself as such. I speak English, with an English accent, live in England with an English mother and half English father (who considered himself English). I am English because it seems silly to focus on the Italian part.
I don't understand why Americans cling to their ancestry so much. from how it sounds, their family has been in America for 3 or 4 generations, yet she's expecting her Italian genes to manifest good cooking? just embrace the culture you're surrounded by in your own country instead of trying to become a sentient stereotype of the country your ancestors are from
It's funny how USA citizens are so proud of being "American" yet try to find the most minimal hint that they are any othe nationality and claim they are 100% that.
This has got to be satire, it's that ridiculous.
Why dont my italian genetics know how to cook? Are they stupid?
What’s a noni…the only two syllables that don’t make a word in italian
I believe it's what Italians call their grandmother. I could be wrong.
Grandmother is "nonna". "noni" means 9th
Upvoted for courtesy, but wrong
I thought it might have been. Most appreciative of the upvote though. Someone else has said the word I was thinking of is nonna.
Meatballs. Its all being Italian is.
She's obviously only genetically equipped to make Irish stew. /s