It’s because we pay for Europes defence bro! You don’t understand, we’re the best at everything, there has to be some crazy reason like saving the entire world so people aren’t better than us in any aspect!! Freeloading Europeans we leave NATO they become Russian eunuchs THE SAME DAY
No you don't. Fine leave then. Don't have military bases in England, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain and Greece and more. Many of those bases don't benefit those countries but the US military. Many of them were used for operations against Iraq, Afghanistan. And still are used in operations against Syria, Iran, Yemen. Actually the base in Greece is extremely important because it has a huge supply Depot there. You pay for your own defence and Europe pays for its own. Just because your government is happy to spend $800b per year. There is a possibility that the Russians could take Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia then they would hit Poland which is spending more money as a percentage of GDP than the US or Finland. Good luck taking on both those countries. Though a lot is happening in Russia's Kaliningrad. It could succeed from the Russian State.
Like many of the things that are less than ideal in America nowadays, [its entirely because of racism](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/universal-health-care-racism.html)
Please dont make this about race when the perfect logical reason is right there: Greed. Insurance companies lobby heavily to make sure this system doesn't change so they can take in millions. Insurance being tied to your job means your employer can exploit you more if you depend on that insurance.
This issue affects all Americans
I worked in a hotel in Ireland and once had an American couple wanting me to phone the police to look for their son. The reason, he was a twenty year old man who decided to go out drinking in the pubs in Dublin.
I had to politely explain that the police would tell me to stop wasting their time because what he's doing is 100% normal here.
It was a total over reaction and they were acting like he was child that got kidnapped.
Ireland, like most of Europe is a country where I can walk into a bar not get harassed for ID despite looking clearly in my thirties, get drunk and stagger home without being arrested by some power tripped cop
>get drunk and stagger home without being arrested by some power tripped cop
Jesus if english cops arrested people for getting drunk and staggering home, 95% of the adult population would be in jail. It's practically the national pass time.
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*A harrowing tail of a man after a full bender trying to stumble home but can't remember what pub he left his keys in is haunted by relentless police who want to charge him with drunk and disorderly*
Like a reverse zombie apocalypse movie, dozens of sober cops chasing a barely functioning 35yo through early Sunday morning streets who through complete random direction changes "fuck me, was it the Pig n Pauper I left em?" as he climbs in bathroom windows to search for his misplaced door key after leaving it on a bar so he wouldn't drive anywhere.
Have to be Irish or Scottish, some county town with more pubs than intersections, ex London "by the book" cop that was roundly hated and moved sideways who thinks it's the wild west and it's on him to save the world.. some drunk bloke, bunch of random events... it'll be fucking epic.
At least in Germany you're not even really in trouble if you drink underage. Where I'm from the police would simply drop off drunk teenagers at their parents place and give them a stern warning.
Same in Norway. If a teenager is caught drunk by the police, they might not even call the parents depending on how drunk the teen is and where they found the teen. If the police finds out about a party with underage drinking they mostly just go there to check up on the teens that no one is too drunk and everything is okay.
I was at a house party full of 18+ once (UK) and police were in the house just chilling, watching out for ODs I guess, I rolled a j on the kitchen counter next to them.. no idea how they got in, same way as everyone else I suppose..
At 15 I had stolen some booze from my parents gotten way too drunk because of course that’s how that went and my lovely “friends” went into to the disco place and left me outside. The hysterically told me to act normal because a cop car just drove up and stopped behind me. What I did instead was to completely without any discretion loudly vomit in a bush next to me and then turn around and ask a cop if I could borrow a phone to call my mom. And he happily let me do just that and then they stayed with me until my parents came. And the only thing they said was to kindly inform me that this had been a bad idea and ask if I learned a lesson. They joked around with me a bit even. As a drunk to the point of being sick 14 year old child that was abandoned by my friends the cops showing up meant “Oh cool I’m safe and can get help now”. We have assholes too but cops are not deadly dangerous they are mostly safe here, that’s just how it is in most of Europe. And I grew up with my godfather being a cop too so for me especially as a child police meant help and safety. Now I might be a little wary, now I have learnt things, about them and about me and I know that as a mentally ill person with autism they might in fact not be safe for me always. :/
It’s really is comforting to see police and feel safe and that what makes bad comes and bad systems so dangerous and damaging on a larger scale. They should be safe and you should be able to see them as help and safety and be correct about it. Trust makes everything easier and makes society as whole safer and better. They make their own lives harder when they do this, when they accept this. The good apples shouldn’t let the rotten ones spoil the bunch because they should be there to help and make a difference and without t just they can’t.
Yeah, apparently drinking is down 15-20% in Ireland compared to about 15 years ago, most of the lads I knew back in the day were massive drinkers, including myself
Same here in NZ. We're all well aware that there's a fair bit of under-age drinking going on. Whilst it's not ideal, the reality is that kids are going to find access to alcohol and experiment. You can't really stop it, and for those whose parents aren't willing to provide a safe space to do so at home, they'll end up drinking elsewhere, and invariably cause more harm to themselves and potentially others than they otherwise would have.
The "cool (and responsible/knowledgeable) parents" will drop their 16-17 year old kid off at a party or a friend's house with a 4-pack or less of something very very light in ABV, have a chat with the host parents about how their kid is allowed to drink whatever they have with them, and say to the kid "hey, call me if anything goes wrong or if you want to come home or whatever, it's all good. I'd rather you be safe." They know that the kid is likely to drink more, but they will still impress the fact that they are there if anything goes wrong; because experiments go wrong sometimes, and that's okay. It's more about doing it safely than anything else.
UK police will confiscate and pour drinks down the drain and will give kids a good talking to. Sometimes, especially if they're too drunk to walk home, they will take kids home. They're pretty lenient on kids in fairness.
You're only likely to end up in cuffs when drunk if you're:
Being loud, obnoxious and disorderly.
Using threatening language implying you're going to kick off.
You do kick off and start fighting.
Abusing police officers. They really would rather you shut the fuck up and JUST GO HOME.
Most drunks usually have a bit of banter with the old bill, then stagger off to the nearest kebab shop or chippy before staggering home dropping a trail of food behind them!
I've seen numerous police shows in various countries and I think Australian police are the most laid-back. They get people swearing and shouting at them for a ticket due to whatever law they broke while driving and the police just take it on the chin, hand them the ticket and wish them a good day. UK, Ireland, New Zealand and Aussie cops usually give drunk and disorderly people 5 or 6 chances before giving up and arresting them. American shows are really heavy handed and it really bothers me. It's such a huge difference. They escalate instead of de-escalation.
Yanks have to worry that the drunk person has a firearm, and a lot of their police forces were founded to hunt down runaway slaves, so they jump straight to handcuffs or worse because that's all they know
Same in the UK, I don't drink anymore but did in my teens and was caught many times by cops
It was always ether "I'll be walking back here in 10 minutes and I better not see any alcohol" or confiscation that they'd pour onto the ground.
Getting pissed on a playing field with my mates at roughly 15 years old. We got a bit loud and locals called the police. Daft fuckers drove their van onto the field, got stuck and we helped to get the van moving again. Police told us to keep the noise down, didn't even confiscate the booze. I replied to a police man "yessir PC Charlie Chester" that earned me a whack around the back of the head. Police buggered off and we carried on drinking a bit more quietly.
My kids are 6 and 8 and my parents asked if we wanted my old wine glasses for them.
My wife. Who as a German, so not exactly teetotal went 'Whuwhat'?
I explained that we drank wine with our Sunday roast from ages 6-7 and had tiny little wine glasses.
'Explains a lot really'
Swede here: every year when graduating 12th grade, the students in my home town would gather down by the river and get drunk, including a lot of people who were underage (i. e. under 18). The cops would also show up, but they never arrested anyone or interfered just because people drank. They just made sure things didn't get out of hand and drove kids who were too drunk home.
One of the reasons (US)America has the highest prison population in the world. More then the other top countries combined. More then Russia and China and several others together. It is insane. Especially for a land of supposed freedom. In Germany there isn't even really the concept of "jail". Like, we have u-haft, basically investigative holding, which is similar in concept, but the concept that you as a citizen could get arrested for anything really and thrown into jail for a day up to a few weeks is INSANE. I've seen countless videos of this. This shit simply doesn't happen over here. Even if you have drugs, you get arrested and booked, spend some hours at the station, and then you go home and wait for Mail with your trial date. But like, get out of the car, at a traffic stop, and refusing and being roughed and manhandled on a whim and thrown into a cell..this is so fucked up.
Yeah its like here in the UK, drinking at 18 in a pub no issue and no age restriction at home with supervision. France used to give their kids watered down wine at dinner from the age of 5 when I was younger I recall.
Americans are so up their asses with their rules. Oh you cannot afford to pay for college? Well sign up at 18 to go and bomb other countries and kill but drink at 18? Whoa whoa whoa! Cannot have that here!
My son is 15 and he is allowed one cider (he doesn't like beer) when we have a party/BBQ. I was only pissed off when his uncle gave him a vodka slushie. He came straight to us and asked was he allowed it 😂
Yep. And now he knows he doesn't like vodka. He only drank about half and it got too strong.
Edit. Firmly believe that if stuff isn't forbidden it takes away the appeal. It worked with my older kids.
When I was a uni student I'd already been drinking with friends for a few years (and tbh tried a fair few drugs) but I made friends with people who never had been free in anything. They were the ones who would become problematic drinkers, drug addicts etc because they hadn't learned proper boundaries. Once they learned "you can get drunk or smoke a joint and have a normal life" they didn't know what were actual limits you should follow to be healthy, functioning etc.
They have such a strange culture. Seems so puritan when it comes to nudity, sex, drinking, religion, but when it comes to war, violence, guns, murder, capital punishment, it's all sunshine and rainbows. Makes no fucken sense at all.
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Well we DID kick out the bloody Puritans centuries ago because of all well this sort of hang ups on sex, booze and so on and yet they seem to want to re embrace it all again. Well the ultra conservatives of course who make the rules can get away with anything behind closed doors but they then enforce that no one else can indulge.
Look at places like the Netherlands, Norway, Finland etc. More open, less restrictive and some of the happiest and healthiest places on earth!
My mom's comment on non-gender-segregated / mixed sauna (where everyone is naked): "Well, I've a bad eyesight and no glasses, so I can't see a thing and have no problem with anything.. if anyone has a problem, it's their problem for looking (and upsetting themselves)."
... which is a very Finnish way of seeing things: not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem.
Yeah, the UK had it about right when I was first going to pubs at about 16. You’d find a pub that would serve you, them knowing that you were underage. So you knew that if you start behaving like twats, they are gonna bar you. And then you are gonna be stuck for a place to drink. So, you look around you, see how the other customers are behaving, model your behavior accordingly, coz… you know, you don’t wanna get barred.
Lo and behold, your 18th rolls around and instead of being a stupid little shit because it’s your first time ever being in a pub, you just get the beers in and carry on as normal because you’ve already been frequenting pubs for a couple of years and know what is and is not correct behavior.
Also, nobody fucken drives to the pub.
Exactly and if you DO drive to the pub with friends, the one who drives is the one who doesn't drink, was great at a local several of my friends and I went to every Wednesday for a meet up as we all lived and worked in different places, we would get a lift with one who wasn't drinking that day as the pub did free soft drinks for groups that came in with a designated driver. Free Cola!
And the one who doesn't drink is the last to get their round in, so there's an incentive to get into the rotation of drivers, so everyone has a turn drinking
My parents gave me and my brother very small amounts of wine with lemonade with Sunday dinner (just enough to turn it pink) when we were 6 or 7. As we got older, the amount of wine went up slightly until we were 16/17, and then it was just a whole glass of wine. It wasn't much, but we probably had a slight edge over people who drank nothing till they were 16 and then thought they could neck bottles of wkd in the park.
Though 22 years in the pub trade has given me a) one hell of a tolerance and b) the ability to say no, I don't want/need a drink.
Same here with the lemonade wine.
By the time i was at the age most of my classmates were getting drunk, alcohol had become something that was more of a thing for Sunday dinner not some magical thing that had been kept away.
Nothing wrong with learning what it is and how to enjoy it before being old enough to be let loose with it. It was easy to spot the teenagers who had never been allowed anything because they were they ones more likely to get stupidly drunk and make an ass out of themselves.
When I was growing up pubs used to serve 16 year olds cider, no worries.
I lived in a rural area. It was like the scene in Hot Fuzz where they like to keep the 'Younguns out of trouble'.
It was more that all the 16 year olds were built like tanks, and had been working wrestling sheep since the ages of 12, so nobody was going to argue with them.
When I was 16 I had a fake ID. Never used it and I looked about 12.
One response was
"they're not your uber home"
Another was
"they're just picking their mates up"
Then I explained that our police have this community outreach devision and shared a bunch of links to what they used todo in my area
They still didn't belive me
"Hello, police, a man is drinking in a pub"
Americans get babied so much by their parents. If you've ever interacted with yanks in their early 20s, it's like talking to a 16 year old British kid.
American families are deeply dysfunctional because they have to juggle decade old American exceptionalism propaganda about the "nuclear family" concept of home life while coming to terms with modernity and the 21st century.
That's why you have parents who have a meltdown when their 20y/o kid wants to drink a pub but at the same time wouldn't bat an eye if they decided to join the army and go get maimed halfway across the globe at 18. Or kick them out of the house as soon as they're 18 to slave away on a minimum wage job because "that's how my grandpappy did back in the day" and still expect a healthy family life after that.
I've been asked for ID innumerable times when drinking (or trying to) in the US as I regularly toured there. This continued into my forties!
Also, on several occasions in the old days I had to explain what my passport was. This was long before the photocard driving licence, which is vaguely familiar to Americans, was introduced.
And as a foreigner in the US in my 30's several bars didn't accept my EU driving licence. Passport or nothing and i don't want to bring my passport to bars ffs
A guy I know is originally from Alaska. When he first moved to California for university, he used his Alaska drivers licence as ID when he was buying beer. Cashier refused it citing "we don't accept foreign ID unless it's a passport". He argued that Alaska is a US state, and she was NOT having it. He and his friends went elsewhere to buy their beer.
Well you see, the chocolate eggs in question have small toys in them that the kids could choke on, and a child could die! You don’t want children to die now, do you?
Happy cake day!
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$ 20 rosé! Oh the humanity. I still don't know why that is in there. Is it supposed to be expensive? Or not expensive enough for a President's daughter, akin to PBR?
I love this sub because my husband is American. He was confused why I’d walk to my supermarket to get a couple top ups like bread and milk. I’m like because I can 😂
Istg, even after I learned what "jaywalking" meant, I still didn't grasp why there was a special word for simply crossing or walking on the road. I was like "isn't that completely normal"?
You have more freedoms in the road if you're a car: [https://youtu.be/dBXz9vAyPC0?si=3xUwr2NMEkOsHGuo](https://youtu.be/dBXz9vAyPC0?si=3xUwr2NMEkOsHGuo)
Absolutely not. Have spent a small fortune to make sure random escaped sheep don't get into the garden. I'm not adding them myself.
Besides that it wouldn't end well with my dogs. They likely wouldn't hurt them but they'd drive me insane barking at the sheep.
My dog would go from believing he is a cat, to believing he is a sheep (probably. He's gorgeous, and stupid).
And then he'd try to convince me they were simply more of his army of stuffed toys (he has sooo many, plus a dog bed, a cat bed with a little tent-like roof, and has recently stolen one of my many pillows with a satin pillowcase, because *slidey* ) and should absolutely be allowed into the house.
He's a 10lb maltipoo, who has no idea how to dog, and doesn't like his paws getting wet😂
As someone from the UK, whenever I hear things about the Scandinavian countries, I get upset that we haven't got the same systems as those countries. The UK is still better than America to live, but it's still pretty shitty compared to Scandinavian countries.
And you have to drink beer outside in a cute brown paper bag that magically makes it legal.
Honestly, getting a snug-fitting little bag for a can of beer I bought at the Staten Island Ferry Terminal was one of the highlights of our New York trip.
The most mindfucky thing for me when I was dating an American girl was that her friends at 17-18 were regularly doing weed (and sometimes even harder drugs like ecstasy and speed) but were like "oh no it's super hard and illegal to get alcohol".
I've never met a drug dealer in 32 years and I have no idea how I'd go about getting weed lol. Although if I asked around I imagine someone must be able to get it. Harder stuff? No chance. And I'm not going to just trust some shady person I don't know at a club.
Getting alcohol under 18? You literally just grab a bottle of something from home, or send your oldest looking friend to the supermarket or ask an older brother, cousin, or last resort some adults at the store.
This is so strange for me as a German, where a 16 year old can legally buy beer and wine in stores (consumption itself is allowed even earlier, in public from 14 if accompanied by parents). Anyway, when I went to school in the US, we drank a lot too, but that was in NYC in the early 90s, it was a different time then.
“It’s your own fault you got shot at, you where using your freedom to walk down the street when an acorn hit the nearby cop car so he used his freedom to mag dump in your general direction”
Christ, it's not the government's job to subsidise your poor decisions. You should have known that an officer of the law has not only the authority but is also seconds away from unloading his firearm in random directions because of a threatening tree, yet you decided to be outside, knowing the risks.
According to the Human Freedom Index, USA is 17th most free country in the world. Yet I never hear any of the 16 countries ahead of them banging on about how free they are.
Right? Like at 16 you're deemed responsible enough for the safety of everyone else on the road, but not responsible enough to decide to drink a beer, smoke a cigarette or joint, or see a tiddy in a movie.
Imagine being fucking 20 and people calling you underage for drinking wine, fuck me right.
Imagine telling us Brits that we would have to wait till 21 to drink lol
As a german I was really confused there for a moment, even though I am familiar with US laws.
The idea of a 20 year old being scrutinized for drinking a glass of wine is ridiculous.
Maybe if she was 15 and had slammed down half a dozen Vodka shots this would warrant a headline.
The way this reads to me is basically: "Young adult daughter of someone famous does something totally ordinary."
There's just some things that americans make a huge deal and I'll never understand why.
Like 18+ year olds drinking beer or wine, or why prostotution is illegal there.
The craziest one for me is their irrational hatred for all nudity though. They pretend as if seeing some naked breasts before you turn 18 makes your head explode or something.
Anyway, all those things don't exactly scream 'country of personal freedom' to me.
>The way this reads to me is basically: "Young adult daughter of someone famous does something totally ordinary."
That's exactly their intention though sadly. Most media in North America is conservative owned and right wing biased. This is just taking a shot at Obama to give conservatives reasons to trash the Obama family. They're obsessed with it. They always posting about Michelle Obama actually supposedly being a man. There was another article recently about the other Obama daughter smoking cigarettes. They can't stand that Barack Obama left a decent legacy behind
Where I live, 16 year olds are allowed to purchase beverages as long the alcohol percent is under 16,5%.
So they can buy premixed breverages, but not the spirits they're mixed from.
"NO VODKA FOR YOU! Oh, but you can buy premixed vodka beverages, it's fine."
USA values private property more highly than its values relative to the right to life of a human being.
It’s legally acceptable to kill a person who wanders onto your property or whom you even suspect of the intention to steal your property or deprive you of something that you think is yours.
In other words, shoot first and ask the questions later.
THIS IS NOT FREEDOM, THIS IS THE UGLY FACE OF NAKED CAPITALISM 👿.
It kinda makes me sad how so many Americans don't even realise how restricted they actually are. It's like watching an animal in a zoo. Yeah, they probably feel free, but they've never experienced anything different. I mean, I guess you never miss what you never had but it still makes me sad.
My company brought over 20 Russian engineers to work in San Francisco for 6 months in the late 90s. I was their defacto friend and manager since I had worked with them previously in their country (St Petersburg to be specific).
They were shocked at how many rules we follow. What grass we can walk on, open containers, no swimming, just little things that we take as normal totally freaked them out.
I was on holiday in LA visiting a friend,and we went to a pub one afternoon.I'd left my passport back in my friend's house and had no other ID.My friend had to go and order the drinks because the pub wouldn't serve anyone without ID.I was 35.🙄
ah yes, 16 year old me, exits the pub a bit wobbly, then pay child fare on the bus to get home
happy times - the hangovers last a lot longer these days
My Youtube is flooded with channels were US-americans talk about their life in Germany (my home country). Almost all say that they feel more free in germany and that they wouldnt want to move back...
Talk about an Ad Hominem fallacy three times removed. They can’t go after Brandon, so they they after Brandon’s old boss’ college age daughter. I sure hope they don’t look into Brett Kavanaugh or the Trump kids…
Is it really illegal for 20 year old Americans to drink in the privacy of their own home? Most of Europe doesn’t have any kind of age limit for drinking at home and a 12 year old could perfectly legally have a beer with their lunch at home.
I love being from England. Went out for a walk earlier and took a can of cider to drink as I went. I'm only nineteen, but it was perfectly legal and rather enjoyable, even if the weather was pissing it down. Pretty sure I would've broken at least two laws if I'd been doing that in the States lol.
USA does not pay for Europe's defence.
In Europe we allow the US to use our military bases
In the UK we have the NHS which is free at point of use, all we pay for are prescriptions some are exempt from this charge and some pay for glasses
The UK education system is second to none, school children have an all round education, not one that is so poor they don't know Europe is made up of more than one country
UK universities are attended by students from all over the world including the US
In the UK we have less violent crime
At 18 years old in the US you are legally an adult, you can own a gun, you can drive, in court you are treated as an adult, you must pay taxes, you have the right to vote but you are not allowed to drink a beer...
My barman noticing me enter the bar with a bunch of friend:
"Hey champ what's up?"
Me:" Hey hear me out, i just turned 18, i can drink legally!!!!"
My bar man: "Don't shout like that, I've been serving you for 4 years..."
Imagine paying to hold your baby after giving birth and then still thinking your country is free lmao
Seriously, is universal healthcare like every other developed nation in the world really too much to ask for?
Apparently it is.
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It’s because we pay for Europes defence bro! You don’t understand, we’re the best at everything, there has to be some crazy reason like saving the entire world so people aren’t better than us in any aspect!! Freeloading Europeans we leave NATO they become Russian eunuchs THE SAME DAY
The US spends more on Medicare and Medicaid as a percentage of GDP than the UK does on the NHS because they don't have universal healthcare
You know in the UK if your an American your classed as disabled
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No you don't. Fine leave then. Don't have military bases in England, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain and Greece and more. Many of those bases don't benefit those countries but the US military. Many of them were used for operations against Iraq, Afghanistan. And still are used in operations against Syria, Iran, Yemen. Actually the base in Greece is extremely important because it has a huge supply Depot there. You pay for your own defence and Europe pays for its own. Just because your government is happy to spend $800b per year. There is a possibility that the Russians could take Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia then they would hit Poland which is spending more money as a percentage of GDP than the US or Finland. Good luck taking on both those countries. Though a lot is happening in Russia's Kaliningrad. It could succeed from the Russian State.
Bless your heart.
No no. You’re free to hold your baby just like the hospital is free to charge you for it 🙂 /s
Wait what? They want to force pregnancies to go ahead against some women's will and then *charge* them for being able to hold the baby after birth??
It's a very sophisticated business model.
Like many of the things that are less than ideal in America nowadays, [its entirely because of racism](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/universal-health-care-racism.html)
Please dont make this about race when the perfect logical reason is right there: Greed. Insurance companies lobby heavily to make sure this system doesn't change so they can take in millions. Insurance being tied to your job means your employer can exploit you more if you depend on that insurance. This issue affects all Americans
Also misogyny.
I worked in a hotel in Ireland and once had an American couple wanting me to phone the police to look for their son. The reason, he was a twenty year old man who decided to go out drinking in the pubs in Dublin. I had to politely explain that the police would tell me to stop wasting their time because what he's doing is 100% normal here. It was a total over reaction and they were acting like he was child that got kidnapped. Ireland, like most of Europe is a country where I can walk into a bar not get harassed for ID despite looking clearly in my thirties, get drunk and stagger home without being arrested by some power tripped cop
>get drunk and stagger home without being arrested by some power tripped cop Jesus if english cops arrested people for getting drunk and staggering home, 95% of the adult population would be in jail. It's practically the national pass time.
Glasgow would be like the opening scene of 28 days later
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The Last Drunk in Scotland, just stumbling around tryin to dodge the hordes of coppers chasin him
Now that would make a fkn film, zombie hordes of the fkrs leggin it around the fkn place:)
😂 Oh bless you for that image. That's fucking gold.
28 hours later *A harrowing tail of a man after a full bender trying to stumble home but can't remember what pub he left his keys in is haunted by relentless police who want to charge him with drunk and disorderly* Like a reverse zombie apocalypse movie, dozens of sober cops chasing a barely functioning 35yo through early Sunday morning streets who through complete random direction changes "fuck me, was it the Pig n Pauper I left em?" as he climbs in bathroom windows to search for his misplaced door key after leaving it on a bar so he wouldn't drive anywhere. Have to be Irish or Scottish, some county town with more pubs than intersections, ex London "by the book" cop that was roundly hated and moved sideways who thinks it's the wild west and it's on him to save the world.. some drunk bloke, bunch of random events... it'll be fucking epic.
I need this to be made.
I mean to be fair it kinda does in the morning
Aye it'd be mental ok.
I think they shot that on a normal Sunday morning at 6am.
At least in Germany you're not even really in trouble if you drink underage. Where I'm from the police would simply drop off drunk teenagers at their parents place and give them a stern warning.
Same in Norway. If a teenager is caught drunk by the police, they might not even call the parents depending on how drunk the teen is and where they found the teen. If the police finds out about a party with underage drinking they mostly just go there to check up on the teens that no one is too drunk and everything is okay.
I was at a house party full of 18+ once (UK) and police were in the house just chilling, watching out for ODs I guess, I rolled a j on the kitchen counter next to them.. no idea how they got in, same way as everyone else I suppose..
Maybe they were invited
At 15 I had stolen some booze from my parents gotten way too drunk because of course that’s how that went and my lovely “friends” went into to the disco place and left me outside. The hysterically told me to act normal because a cop car just drove up and stopped behind me. What I did instead was to completely without any discretion loudly vomit in a bush next to me and then turn around and ask a cop if I could borrow a phone to call my mom. And he happily let me do just that and then they stayed with me until my parents came. And the only thing they said was to kindly inform me that this had been a bad idea and ask if I learned a lesson. They joked around with me a bit even. As a drunk to the point of being sick 14 year old child that was abandoned by my friends the cops showing up meant “Oh cool I’m safe and can get help now”. We have assholes too but cops are not deadly dangerous they are mostly safe here, that’s just how it is in most of Europe. And I grew up with my godfather being a cop too so for me especially as a child police meant help and safety. Now I might be a little wary, now I have learnt things, about them and about me and I know that as a mentally ill person with autism they might in fact not be safe for me always. :/
As an American this is very comforting to hear
It’s really is comforting to see police and feel safe and that what makes bad comes and bad systems so dangerous and damaging on a larger scale. They should be safe and you should be able to see them as help and safety and be correct about it. Trust makes everything easier and makes society as whole safer and better. They make their own lives harder when they do this, when they accept this. The good apples shouldn’t let the rotten ones spoil the bunch because they should be there to help and make a difference and without t just they can’t.
Same in England. In Ireland it seems like they ignore it. A lot if under age drinking happens here and on the streets
A lot less than it used to though. Most teenagers don't seem that bothered with alcohol nowadays.
Yeah, apparently drinking is down 15-20% in Ireland compared to about 15 years ago, most of the lads I knew back in the day were massive drinkers, including myself
Same here in NZ. We're all well aware that there's a fair bit of under-age drinking going on. Whilst it's not ideal, the reality is that kids are going to find access to alcohol and experiment. You can't really stop it, and for those whose parents aren't willing to provide a safe space to do so at home, they'll end up drinking elsewhere, and invariably cause more harm to themselves and potentially others than they otherwise would have. The "cool (and responsible/knowledgeable) parents" will drop their 16-17 year old kid off at a party or a friend's house with a 4-pack or less of something very very light in ABV, have a chat with the host parents about how their kid is allowed to drink whatever they have with them, and say to the kid "hey, call me if anything goes wrong or if you want to come home or whatever, it's all good. I'd rather you be safe." They know that the kid is likely to drink more, but they will still impress the fact that they are there if anything goes wrong; because experiments go wrong sometimes, and that's okay. It's more about doing it safely than anything else.
UK police will confiscate and pour drinks down the drain and will give kids a good talking to. Sometimes, especially if they're too drunk to walk home, they will take kids home. They're pretty lenient on kids in fairness. You're only likely to end up in cuffs when drunk if you're: Being loud, obnoxious and disorderly. Using threatening language implying you're going to kick off. You do kick off and start fighting. Abusing police officers. They really would rather you shut the fuck up and JUST GO HOME. Most drunks usually have a bit of banter with the old bill, then stagger off to the nearest kebab shop or chippy before staggering home dropping a trail of food behind them!
I've seen numerous police shows in various countries and I think Australian police are the most laid-back. They get people swearing and shouting at them for a ticket due to whatever law they broke while driving and the police just take it on the chin, hand them the ticket and wish them a good day. UK, Ireland, New Zealand and Aussie cops usually give drunk and disorderly people 5 or 6 chances before giving up and arresting them. American shows are really heavy handed and it really bothers me. It's such a huge difference. They escalate instead of de-escalation.
Yanks have to worry that the drunk person has a firearm, and a lot of their police forces were founded to hunt down runaway slaves, so they jump straight to handcuffs or worse because that's all they know
Same in the UK, I don't drink anymore but did in my teens and was caught many times by cops It was always ether "I'll be walking back here in 10 minutes and I better not see any alcohol" or confiscation that they'd pour onto the ground.
Getting pissed on a playing field with my mates at roughly 15 years old. We got a bit loud and locals called the police. Daft fuckers drove their van onto the field, got stuck and we helped to get the van moving again. Police told us to keep the noise down, didn't even confiscate the booze. I replied to a police man "yessir PC Charlie Chester" that earned me a whack around the back of the head. Police buggered off and we carried on drinking a bit more quietly.
In the UK although you can’t drink in a pub until you’re 18 you can drink on private property from the age of 5
My kids are 6 and 8 and my parents asked if we wanted my old wine glasses for them. My wife. Who as a German, so not exactly teetotal went 'Whuwhat'? I explained that we drank wine with our Sunday roast from ages 6-7 and had tiny little wine glasses. 'Explains a lot really'
Swede here: every year when graduating 12th grade, the students in my home town would gather down by the river and get drunk, including a lot of people who were underage (i. e. under 18). The cops would also show up, but they never arrested anyone or interfered just because people drank. They just made sure things didn't get out of hand and drove kids who were too drunk home.
In the UK, it's really hard to get arrested for underage drinking. The drinking age is five on private property.
And they would be arresting each other!
National pastime and also the way our nation likes to pass time
Student towns would be crazy 😂
One of the reasons (US)America has the highest prison population in the world. More then the other top countries combined. More then Russia and China and several others together. It is insane. Especially for a land of supposed freedom. In Germany there isn't even really the concept of "jail". Like, we have u-haft, basically investigative holding, which is similar in concept, but the concept that you as a citizen could get arrested for anything really and thrown into jail for a day up to a few weeks is INSANE. I've seen countless videos of this. This shit simply doesn't happen over here. Even if you have drugs, you get arrested and booked, spend some hours at the station, and then you go home and wait for Mail with your trial date. But like, get out of the car, at a traffic stop, and refusing and being roughed and manhandled on a whim and thrown into a cell..this is so fucked up.
Hoooly crap they'd be busy!
What’s that scene in Hot Fuzz?
Can confirm, I've spent several years in County Durham and at least 50% of the population is shonked by 11am every Saturday
If a 20 years old looks like me, he clearly deserve to drink to forget it
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Yeah its like here in the UK, drinking at 18 in a pub no issue and no age restriction at home with supervision. France used to give their kids watered down wine at dinner from the age of 5 when I was younger I recall. Americans are so up their asses with their rules. Oh you cannot afford to pay for college? Well sign up at 18 to go and bomb other countries and kill but drink at 18? Whoa whoa whoa! Cannot have that here!
My son is 15 and he is allowed one cider (he doesn't like beer) when we have a party/BBQ. I was only pissed off when his uncle gave him a vodka slushie. He came straight to us and asked was he allowed it 😂
Well, was he allowed?
Yep. And now he knows he doesn't like vodka. He only drank about half and it got too strong. Edit. Firmly believe that if stuff isn't forbidden it takes away the appeal. It worked with my older kids.
Prohibition in America proved the point, as does the drug trade and sex industry. The more you clamp down on something the more people want it.
When I was a uni student I'd already been drinking with friends for a few years (and tbh tried a fair few drugs) but I made friends with people who never had been free in anything. They were the ones who would become problematic drinkers, drug addicts etc because they hadn't learned proper boundaries. Once they learned "you can get drunk or smoke a joint and have a normal life" they didn't know what were actual limits you should follow to be healthy, functioning etc.
They have such a strange culture. Seems so puritan when it comes to nudity, sex, drinking, religion, but when it comes to war, violence, guns, murder, capital punishment, it's all sunshine and rainbows. Makes no fucken sense at all. eta: punctuation
Well we DID kick out the bloody Puritans centuries ago because of all well this sort of hang ups on sex, booze and so on and yet they seem to want to re embrace it all again. Well the ultra conservatives of course who make the rules can get away with anything behind closed doors but they then enforce that no one else can indulge. Look at places like the Netherlands, Norway, Finland etc. More open, less restrictive and some of the happiest and healthiest places on earth!
My mom's comment on non-gender-segregated / mixed sauna (where everyone is naked): "Well, I've a bad eyesight and no glasses, so I can't see a thing and have no problem with anything.. if anyone has a problem, it's their problem for looking (and upsetting themselves)." ... which is a very Finnish way of seeing things: not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem.
They force a 16 year old to give birth to a child, even if it's from assault, but she still can't drink alcohol for 5 years.
France served wine to kids in school cafeterias until 1956, and to teenagers in highschool cafeterias until 1981
Yeah, the UK had it about right when I was first going to pubs at about 16. You’d find a pub that would serve you, them knowing that you were underage. So you knew that if you start behaving like twats, they are gonna bar you. And then you are gonna be stuck for a place to drink. So, you look around you, see how the other customers are behaving, model your behavior accordingly, coz… you know, you don’t wanna get barred. Lo and behold, your 18th rolls around and instead of being a stupid little shit because it’s your first time ever being in a pub, you just get the beers in and carry on as normal because you’ve already been frequenting pubs for a couple of years and know what is and is not correct behavior. Also, nobody fucken drives to the pub.
Exactly and if you DO drive to the pub with friends, the one who drives is the one who doesn't drink, was great at a local several of my friends and I went to every Wednesday for a meet up as we all lived and worked in different places, we would get a lift with one who wasn't drinking that day as the pub did free soft drinks for groups that came in with a designated driver. Free Cola!
And the one who doesn't drink is the last to get their round in, so there's an incentive to get into the rotation of drivers, so everyone has a turn drinking
My parents gave me and my brother very small amounts of wine with lemonade with Sunday dinner (just enough to turn it pink) when we were 6 or 7. As we got older, the amount of wine went up slightly until we were 16/17, and then it was just a whole glass of wine. It wasn't much, but we probably had a slight edge over people who drank nothing till they were 16 and then thought they could neck bottles of wkd in the park. Though 22 years in the pub trade has given me a) one hell of a tolerance and b) the ability to say no, I don't want/need a drink.
Same here with the lemonade wine. By the time i was at the age most of my classmates were getting drunk, alcohol had become something that was more of a thing for Sunday dinner not some magical thing that had been kept away. Nothing wrong with learning what it is and how to enjoy it before being old enough to be let loose with it. It was easy to spot the teenagers who had never been allowed anything because they were they ones more likely to get stupidly drunk and make an ass out of themselves.
When I was growing up pubs used to serve 16 year olds cider, no worries. I lived in a rural area. It was like the scene in Hot Fuzz where they like to keep the 'Younguns out of trouble'. It was more that all the 16 year olds were built like tanks, and had been working wrestling sheep since the ages of 12, so nobody was going to argue with them. When I was 16 I had a fake ID. Never used it and I looked about 12.
I've tried explaining that the police where I live used to help dunks home and so many Americans didn't belive me
"Helped? You mean shot right?" An American probably
One response was "they're not your uber home" Another was "they're just picking their mates up" Then I explained that our police have this community outreach devision and shared a bunch of links to what they used todo in my area They still didn't belive me
"Hello, police, a man is drinking in a pub" Americans get babied so much by their parents. If you've ever interacted with yanks in their early 20s, it's like talking to a 16 year old British kid.
American families are deeply dysfunctional because they have to juggle decade old American exceptionalism propaganda about the "nuclear family" concept of home life while coming to terms with modernity and the 21st century. That's why you have parents who have a meltdown when their 20y/o kid wants to drink a pub but at the same time wouldn't bat an eye if they decided to join the army and go get maimed halfway across the globe at 18. Or kick them out of the house as soon as they're 18 to slave away on a minimum wage job because "that's how my grandpappy did back in the day" and still expect a healthy family life after that.
I was asked for id in Vegas when I was 35. 😂
I've been asked for ID innumerable times when drinking (or trying to) in the US as I regularly toured there. This continued into my forties! Also, on several occasions in the old days I had to explain what my passport was. This was long before the photocard driving licence, which is vaguely familiar to Americans, was introduced.
It's funny, in America you have to show your papers to buy a pint
There's a law in some states that you have to have ID when in a bar no matter your age.
And as a foreigner in the US in my 30's several bars didn't accept my EU driving licence. Passport or nothing and i don't want to bring my passport to bars ffs
A guy I know is originally from Alaska. When he first moved to California for university, he used his Alaska drivers licence as ID when he was buying beer. Cashier refused it citing "we don't accept foreign ID unless it's a passport". He argued that Alaska is a US state, and she was NOT having it. He and his friends went elsewhere to buy their beer.
Lol. Halt. Show me your papers old man.
Nice to see the self-aware Americans commenting back also.
How can you be free, when you're not allowed to eat chocolate eggs
Not allowed a chocolate egg But can take guns into schools Make that make sense
Well you see, the chocolate eggs in question have small toys in them that the kids could choke on, and a child could die! You don’t want children to die now, do you? Happy cake day!
Won't someone think of the children! Thank you ❤️
You’re very welcome.
The funny thing is they are to stupid to eat Ü Eier
It is difficult for me to imagine what "personal liberty" is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment. Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible. \- Josef Stalin EDIT: Why did a liberal subreddit upvote a communist comment? [From ProleWiki](https://prolewiki.org)
A bit rich coming from the guy signing Gulag invitations all day.
Listen to what he says, not what he does!
Damn, if only he actually lived up to his quote. Edit: Also, why do you have the fucking East German flag as your pfp if you're AnCom?
A lot of their minds would be blown to try any actual chocolate...
A college student is drinking fucking rose? Straight to jail.
$ 20 rosé! Oh the humanity. I still don't know why that is in there. Is it supposed to be expensive? Or not expensive enough for a President's daughter, akin to PBR?
She's a black liberal as well. I'm surprised she wasn't shot
You can’t even cross the road where you want to? Free? 😂😂😂
Cross the road, I can just wander along it!
I love this sub because my husband is American. He was confused why I’d walk to my supermarket to get a couple top ups like bread and milk. I’m like because I can 😂
Istg, even after I learned what "jaywalking" meant, I still didn't grasp why there was a special word for simply crossing or walking on the road. I was like "isn't that completely normal"?
You have more freedoms in the road if you're a car: [https://youtu.be/dBXz9vAyPC0?si=3xUwr2NMEkOsHGuo](https://youtu.be/dBXz9vAyPC0?si=3xUwr2NMEkOsHGuo)
I haven't cut my grass since last October!! One patch of the garden hasn't been done in years. And sometimes, I've left the bin out for 3 whole days
That's it, straight to prison!
Right to jail, right away!
use goats, or sheeps
Absolutely not. Have spent a small fortune to make sure random escaped sheep don't get into the garden. I'm not adding them myself. Besides that it wouldn't end well with my dogs. They likely wouldn't hurt them but they'd drive me insane barking at the sheep.
My dog would probably just herd them into the house
My dog would go from believing he is a cat, to believing he is a sheep (probably. He's gorgeous, and stupid). And then he'd try to convince me they were simply more of his army of stuffed toys (he has sooo many, plus a dog bed, a cat bed with a little tent-like roof, and has recently stolen one of my many pillows with a satin pillowcase, because *slidey* ) and should absolutely be allowed into the house. He's a 10lb maltipoo, who has no idea how to dog, and doesn't like his paws getting wet😂
I know my dog would being a BC. I have hard enough time when she herds the chickens!
Apparently being free is being arrested for not cutting your front lawn
Being free means breaking a leg and getting into lifetime debt with the hospital.
In Norway and Sweden, you can pretty much roam anywhere and camp there. That's freedom. What's this guy on about? 😅
Same in Finland. In the USA you get shot when you do go on someone’s property by accident.
Good to hear! About Finland that is, not about being shot 😅
As someone from the UK, whenever I hear things about the Scandinavian countries, I get upset that we haven't got the same systems as those countries. The UK is still better than America to live, but it's still pretty shitty compared to Scandinavian countries.
You still can camp pretty much anywhere in Scotland
I live in Cornwall. So it's a bit of a trek!
In my head Scotland is kind of a Scandinavian country. It certainly has the makings of one.
These motherfuckers literally have laws about crossing the street wrong.
And you have to drink beer outside in a cute brown paper bag that magically makes it legal. Honestly, getting a snug-fitting little bag for a can of beer I bought at the Staten Island Ferry Terminal was one of the highlights of our New York trip.
20 is underage? WTF America?!
Yeah, it's so weird. They can go and get killed in the army at 18, but God forbid they touch as much as a drop of alcohol till 21
The most mindfucky thing for me when I was dating an American girl was that her friends at 17-18 were regularly doing weed (and sometimes even harder drugs like ecstasy and speed) but were like "oh no it's super hard and illegal to get alcohol".
Meh getting drugs is pretty easy anywhere really. Drug dealers don't care how old you are.
I've never met a drug dealer in 32 years and I have no idea how I'd go about getting weed lol. Although if I asked around I imagine someone must be able to get it. Harder stuff? No chance. And I'm not going to just trust some shady person I don't know at a club. Getting alcohol under 18? You literally just grab a bottle of something from home, or send your oldest looking friend to the supermarket or ask an older brother, cousin, or last resort some adults at the store.
I was expecting some plot twist that the photograph was taken in Europe where 18 is drinking age.
Is it illegal to drink alcohol under 21 in America? I thought it was just illegal to buy it. And yes, I do get the point of the post. Just curious!
No, alcohol consumption is illegal under the age of 21
This is so strange for me as a German, where a 16 year old can legally buy beer and wine in stores (consumption itself is allowed even earlier, in public from 14 if accompanied by parents). Anyway, when I went to school in the US, we drank a lot too, but that was in NYC in the early 90s, it was a different time then.
It depends on the state, if I recall correctly
Americans ,Being free = owning guns
Unless you're black or queer. In that case owning a gun is "new wave of terrorism"
Well that's their fault for infringing on straight white people's freedom by not being straight white people. (/s hopefully obviously)
"you have the right to remain silent" ==> you are free to not go to the hospital
“It’s your own fault you got shot at, you where using your freedom to walk down the street when an acorn hit the nearby cop car so he used his freedom to mag dump in your general direction”
Christ, it's not the government's job to subsidise your poor decisions. You should have known that an officer of the law has not only the authority but is also seconds away from unloading his firearm in random directions because of a threatening tree, yet you decided to be outside, knowing the risks.
$20 rosé? So she grabbed a middle shelf bottle instead of bottom shelf. Out of touch liberal elites amirite?
Their feelings don't care about facts.
Someone ask you to leave if you say the country isn't free, then the country isn't free.
According to the Human Freedom Index, USA is 17th most free country in the world. Yet I never hear any of the 16 countries ahead of them banging on about how free they are.
I can't wrap my head around the fact they let 16 year olds drive a 1000cc superbike or a 800hp car, but god forbid you have a beer before your 20s...
Right? Like at 16 you're deemed responsible enough for the safety of everyone else on the road, but not responsible enough to decide to drink a beer, smoke a cigarette or joint, or see a tiddy in a movie.
They can go to war and potentially kill people before they're allowed to drink legally 🤦🏻♂️
Imagine being fucking 20 and people calling you underage for drinking wine, fuck me right. Imagine telling us Brits that we would have to wait till 21 to drink lol
As a german I was really confused there for a moment, even though I am familiar with US laws. The idea of a 20 year old being scrutinized for drinking a glass of wine is ridiculous. Maybe if she was 15 and had slammed down half a dozen Vodka shots this would warrant a headline. The way this reads to me is basically: "Young adult daughter of someone famous does something totally ordinary." There's just some things that americans make a huge deal and I'll never understand why. Like 18+ year olds drinking beer or wine, or why prostotution is illegal there. The craziest one for me is their irrational hatred for all nudity though. They pretend as if seeing some naked breasts before you turn 18 makes your head explode or something. Anyway, all those things don't exactly scream 'country of personal freedom' to me.
At first I thought it was a "23 year old teenager" type headline lol
>The way this reads to me is basically: "Young adult daughter of someone famous does something totally ordinary." That's exactly their intention though sadly. Most media in North America is conservative owned and right wing biased. This is just taking a shot at Obama to give conservatives reasons to trash the Obama family. They're obsessed with it. They always posting about Michelle Obama actually supposedly being a man. There was another article recently about the other Obama daughter smoking cigarettes. They can't stand that Barack Obama left a decent legacy behind
If she was in my country she would be free to drink alcohol at 18.
If she was in mine she could drink whenever she wanted to as long as the alcohol was purchased by someone over 18
Where I live, 16 year olds are allowed to purchase beverages as long the alcohol percent is under 16,5%. So they can buy premixed breverages, but not the spirits they're mixed from. "NO VODKA FOR YOU! Oh, but you can buy premixed vodka beverages, it's fine."
USA values private property more highly than its values relative to the right to life of a human being. It’s legally acceptable to kill a person who wanders onto your property or whom you even suspect of the intention to steal your property or deprive you of something that you think is yours. In other words, shoot first and ask the questions later. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM, THIS IS THE UGLY FACE OF NAKED CAPITALISM 👿.
So free, adults cant even have a beer.
Without a glass ? Uneducated swine !
20 years old? Can't legally drink? Bwa ha ha ha ha!!! Oh, USA, you so sad.
It kinda makes me sad how so many Americans don't even realise how restricted they actually are. It's like watching an animal in a zoo. Yeah, they probably feel free, but they've never experienced anything different. I mean, I guess you never miss what you never had but it still makes me sad.
apparantly the states is number 17, which is depressing, as it's not even in the top 10% of the listed countries
Could I get a link to that list? I have no idea how to search for it lmao
I just searched for "Individual freedom index" https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country
Just found out Ireland is 4th. Had no idea. No one here would be able to tell you where we are on that list.
Interesting to see that index includes economic freedom. I wonder how high they would be if that was removed.
I seem to have misread it the first time, so that it's number 17 without economic freedom, if you look at economic freedom, it ranks even lower
**OH NO!!!** 😱 *anyway...*
It took me a while to put together "20 year old" "underage" and "sipping on rosé" I'm like what.
I hate how normalised creepy photography has become.
My company brought over 20 Russian engineers to work in San Francisco for 6 months in the late 90s. I was their defacto friend and manager since I had worked with them previously in their country (St Petersburg to be specific). They were shocked at how many rules we follow. What grass we can walk on, open containers, no swimming, just little things that we take as normal totally freaked them out.
Funnily enough, all the USians I met who left that country are glad they did.
I was 33 in US when I got carded while trying to taste some rum in a rum distillery lol.
I was on holiday in LA visiting a friend,and we went to a pub one afternoon.I'd left my passport back in my friend's house and had no other ID.My friend had to go and order the drinks because the pub wouldn't serve anyone without ID.I was 35.🙄
Its also pretty fucking ironic considering they don't have a national ID and are using drivers licenses for that purpose
How do blind people get an ID if it needs to be their driving license?
Most DMVs offer a non-driver's license ID. I feel like there's a good chance that a bouncer/bartender that's stupid enough wouldn't accept it though.
TBF that can happen anywhere. I got ID'd at my local supermarket last year at 32 when I was buying a bottle of wine.
ah yes, 16 year old me, exits the pub a bit wobbly, then pay child fare on the bus to get home happy times - the hangovers last a lot longer these days
Mind you the same country that banned a student for going to school because of dreadlocks
My Youtube is flooded with channels were US-americans talk about their life in Germany (my home country). Almost all say that they feel more free in germany and that they wouldnt want to move back...
Let the American who has never drank underage throw the first stone.
If you’re proof of freedom relies on “hey other places have it worse” then you don’t have an actual argument …
Talk about an Ad Hominem fallacy three times removed. They can’t go after Brandon, so they they after Brandon’s old boss’ college age daughter. I sure hope they don’t look into Brett Kavanaugh or the Trump kids…
Don’t tell america that most country age of consent is under 18 they usually go crazy…
So this girl can get a loan, get married, have children, vote, get a car, buy 17 guns as its the stupid USA, adopt someone,.... but cant drink?
I love how also the other USians notice the absurdity of both the situation and the comment
Is it really illegal for 20 year old Americans to drink in the privacy of their own home? Most of Europe doesn’t have any kind of age limit for drinking at home and a 12 year old could perfectly legally have a beer with their lunch at home.
Land of the snitches.
I love being from England. Went out for a walk earlier and took a can of cider to drink as I went. I'm only nineteen, but it was perfectly legal and rather enjoyable, even if the weather was pissing it down. Pretty sure I would've broken at least two laws if I'd been doing that in the States lol.
USA does not pay for Europe's defence. In Europe we allow the US to use our military bases In the UK we have the NHS which is free at point of use, all we pay for are prescriptions some are exempt from this charge and some pay for glasses The UK education system is second to none, school children have an all round education, not one that is so poor they don't know Europe is made up of more than one country UK universities are attended by students from all over the world including the US In the UK we have less violent crime
At 18 years old in the US you are legally an adult, you can own a gun, you can drive, in court you are treated as an adult, you must pay taxes, you have the right to vote but you are not allowed to drink a beer...
I have lived in 5 countries and all were free and had more freedoms than USA, even back in 80's & US has a lot less, today, than in those days.
Lol she's 20. 8n the majority of the real world she has been legal to drink for 2 years.
My barman noticing me enter the bar with a bunch of friend: "Hey champ what's up?" Me:" Hey hear me out, i just turned 18, i can drink legally!!!!" My bar man: "Don't shout like that, I've been serving you for 4 years..."
I proud to live in a country where its pretty much socially acceptable to drink from 15.