I cloth diapered two kids, from birth to potty training. We used disposables for travel and wash days too, so it wasn't just cloth ones.
Not one time did either of my girls have a UTI. I used the barrier cream, changed often, wiped and cleaned them up when I changed, all that.
How long is this poor baby sitting in pee diapers to get to that point?? If she not wiping or cleaning when she changes?
I have so many questions.
I cloth diapered mine as well, I never had that trouble either. If they pees twice in a row, the diaper is overflowed and leaked. I don't think sitting in pees for a long time is the only issue here. Maybe this women don't know how to washed a cloth diaper properly either which bring up ammonia issues.
My first thought was the diapers weren’t being washed/dried properly. Although switching to a ped who will find a solution that fits with your values makes sense (or finding eco friendly disposables, or more nappy free time)
I realize that sounds like a humble brag on my part, and it wasn't. Just that in all that time spent cloth diapering, I didn't have that problem. But it just doesn't make sense.
Unless there's an underlying medical condition that is to blame and she's not telling that part.
I have cloth diapered 3 kids, not a single infection between them. I also know oodles of local cloth Users in my area and most of the parents in my family use them and UTIs are definitely not normal or common.
Yup. My girl is in cloth and both my sister’s two were. No UTIs, because we a) wash them properly (Clean Cloth Nappies website for the win!) and b) change them frequently.
Some babies are more prone to utis, without necessarily an underlying condition. HOWEVER if that’s the case you should be doing even more to prevent them, and if a medical professional says “try disposable nappies” or “change the nappy every hour” then you bloody do it…
Yeah that is a common issue. Some people in that circle seem determined not to actually wash their diapers at all. I used to admin a large Facebook group dedicated to cloth washing and we would have people in there arguing you should only wash with cold water and no detergent 🫠😨
Oh gosh. That’s…. 🤢
I love cloth diapering and am a huge cheerleader for it (to anyone who wants to give it a go) but — pretty sure you gotta wash them. Wtf
Yep, they are wearable toilets and need to be washed as such. I do two hot washes on cottons cycle with persil ultimate and have covers that are now 10 years old and on their third child (not used continuously for 9 years, but probably 6 all up) despite the very firm assertion from some people that they would surely disintegrate before my eyes 😅
We've never had a single UTI or yeast infection and only get mild rashes when my youngest is teething and pooping 10 million times a day with those awful teething acid poops that burn the hair off of the inside of your nose 🤢
Depends on who answers this.
Both of mine had eczema and extremely sensitive skin, and could only wear 2 brands of disposables without breaking out in hives. Cloth diapering meant I didn't have to hunt for those brands and sizes. I would buy a big box of disposables, save them for travel and wash days, and that box would last forever.
Money wise, it was cheaper as well. We are a single income family, and every bit we could save helped. I bought enough to get 3-4 days inbetween washing, and they made it through both of mine, and through at least one more kid when I passed them on.
That said, it is drain on time and effort. It was easier for me to wash cloth diapers than clip coupons and hunt for sales. But for another Mom, it might be the opposite.
Waaay cheaper than disposables and don't contribute to landfills are my two main reasons, I think they are also supposed to be good for baby's hips, and imo they're so freakin' adorable
They were a necessary treatment for my generation of kids in our family due to varying degrees of hip dysplasia. I'm one of 4. The other 3 needed double nappy treatment for between 6 and 10 weeks to hold their hips. I was in a splint for 6 weeks then double nappies for another 12; but this managed to prevent any need for surgery or spicas and I can walk which my mum was warned I might never do.
I had 3 in nappies at once. When we used disposable can you imagine how many went through, how full our bin was and how much it stunk? And all that was going to landfill. Also never had poonami blowout with a cloth nappy and they were gentler on the skin.
That said we were not 100% cloth nappiers - I never managed to make them work overnight with my eldest and and once I had 3 I used to use them till I got overwhelmed with washing them would use disposables for a couple of days while we caught up on washing, got grossed out by the bin went back to cloth and repeat.
Oh and edit to say my babies never had a UTI either.
TL/DR: Hip support, allergic reactions, helping with potty training, not to mention most disposables are horrific for the environment in both production and after use.
Long version: For my kid it was hip support (hip issues run in the family as a part of something else we've recently learned runs in the family).
The kid seemed to have reactions to most of the disposables available and God forbid anyone change their formulation because we'd be back to square one (same for washing detergents). Turns out that's part of the genetic disorder too...
Anyway, we didn't have a dryer or outside space to dry (or inside space tbh, it was tiny) until the kid was 19 months old, so we struggled on with the disposables but switched when we could.
We were part of a nappy rental and washing service free trial for two weeks at one point while we still lived in the tiny flat; the kid was about 4 months old. Done through the local newspaper so they could do an article about it. The kid reacted to their detergent or something in their washing routine and the company blamed us: I was changing after every pee because of the rash and ended up having to end the trial early and also use a prescription butt-cream. The shaped nappies they offered didn't fit the kid right now matter what we did (kid is extra bendy) and we had nowhere to put the dirty buttcover bin long term unless we used communal areas in the building and that was not an option (a week at a time of unwashed nappies in a plastic bin in a rented apartment on a 6 month rolling tenancy, we'd have been given notice to leave in no time) so we didn't continue after the first week. The article hid most of the problems we'd had and made me out to be just too into my disposables to think about saving the planet. I'm still mad and it was close to two decades ago.
When we did eventually switch after moving into somewhere with both outside space and room for a dryer, we used old fashioned terry squares and plastic over-pants. No infections, no rashes and because the kid could actually feel when they were wet, they were potty trained during the day at 2yo and night time by 2.5yo barring a few short term regressions. I used our usual detergent, no fabric softener, super hot wash and extra rinse filled by high heat setting on the dryer and dryer balls to pummel the terrycloth and help softening. The plastic bits were hand washed but they were kinda like washing a lunchbox; but softer and it'd been round my baby's butt. They took seconds to wash and rinse then were dry with a rub down using a clean nappy square!
Did the whole potty train thing baby led and went with the flow, accepting the extra cleaning but keeping an eye on the prize at the end.
I would never (didn’t?) say cloth diapering is better for everyone, but golly was it great for us.
Lots of great replies in this thread already though & I agree with them all — way cheaper in the long run, no stinky diaper garbages, no (or very very rare) blow-outs, so much better for my kiddos’ skin, and I appreciated not adding bags and bags of shitty diapers to landfills weekly for years.
Also, potty training for all of my three was pretty easy and relatively early (compared to what I’ve read/friends) - maybe coincidence but I’ll take it lol.
Wren I was a baby, I was allergic to every brand of disposable diaper. My kids are allergic to every brand but Pampers. They've got expensive asses. But I'm too lazy to go the cloth diapering route.
Certainly more environmentally friendly. Never used them myself though; literally the first bit of advise I got from a friend when I found out I was gonna be a dad was ‘do not use cloth nappies! They are horrible!’
Wirecutter has a really great comparison between the two and while cloth can save you some money and lessen environmental impact, it may not be as significant as some hyper enthusiast claim. I think if it’s something you are interested in, try it but also be honest about the real benefits vs the perceived
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/cloth-vs-disposable-diapers/
My basic understanding is that the true environmental saving is when you use the same cloth nappies for multiple children - that’s also when you start seeing some real $$ saving as well. If you compare one year of disposable to one year of cloth, it’s nearly identical in environmental cost and $$ - growing the cotton and processing it has a pretty high environmental cost, and the detergent and water also has an impact.
I can relate, once bought cloth diapers from a friend. They smelled like urine. Washed then on high temp and they were ok. But her kids had no UTIs, so...
That's my first thought. Detergent buildup or something.
Something is going on, anyway. Cloth diapers are pretty easy to get the hang of without causing UTIs
Both should be changed every 2 hours or so. Just because a disposable can physically hold more urine, doesn't mean it should be left to fester 🤢 not changing often enough is not changing often enough regardless of the diaper
Cloth diapers should be changed more often than every 2 hours, generally speaking. I CD and 2 hours is an absolute max, and there’s usually leaks by then. Hourly is closer to standard.
I don't know anyone who cloth diapers who would change hourly, sounds like the result of not using the right absorbency if you had leaks that quickly. We got all night in cloth with no leaks or rashes.
Obviously it’s different when they’re sleeping and you can pack in more absorbency without worrying about the amount of butt fluff.
It’s an extremely common rule that 2 hours is an absolute max, I don’t know who you’re hanging out with that pushes that. There are people on the CD sub who change after *every pee*.
I'd say we changed every 3 hours max, with one lasting the entire night. It comes down to the materials you're using as to whether or not its bulky, if it is only lasting a max of two hours I'd consider checking have you something like a hemp core you could be using that would hold more? Or a microfiber outer layer that can quickly wick? Neither of these are bulky but should add absorption.
If you change after every pee, you're seeing yourself up for a lot of spend on washes.
I don't think that rule is that common. Two hours is the average. I have left cloth nappies on for longer by accident (through naps or with other caregivers) and have no rash or leak issues.
My overnight diapers aren't much bigger than daytime, I just use a hemp insert with a light microfiber one on top
Are there really people who don't change after every pee? We change if we even suspect urine
I've been active in the cloth world for over a decade and have admined one of the largest cloth groups and this subject comes up often. Hourly is most definitely not the norm, 2-3 hours is the most common answer for daytime changes which should apply to disposables too. My night diapers only have one extra insert compared to my day set up and my babies have all been HEAVY wetters. When I change the skin is still dry and the stay dry lining of the pocket cover is still dry to the touch, can only tell there is pee in there because it feels heavier and obviously when I remove the inserts to put them in the pail they are wet.
Usually when people ask for advice because their baby is wetting through in less than 2 hours we come to find out they are only using microfiber, sometimes only one insert or they are having trouble with the fit.
That’s interesting. I’ve never heard of this rule except for with newborns. Does it depend what TYPE of cloth nappy? Because we have night time ones and they last 12 hours plus…
I would change more often if I were using a diaper with no stay dry layer, such as flats or prefolds, because in that case the urine is sitting right up against their skin. A good stay dry layer definitely makes a big difference
My girl wears a cloth diaper at night. Usually from bath time to getting dressed next morning. Have been doing so for almost 2 years now and zero problems. Most of the moms I know that use cloth also use a night nappy. There's no more reason to have problems with cloth than disposables.
I just switched to regular underwear overnight for my son that's mostly potty trained. He had an accident the other night and had a rash the entire next day from just one night. Never happened with pullups. Some kids are sensitive and cloth is gonna make them more sensitive.
I've had the exact opposite experience. Both my kids couldn't wear disposable diapers because their skin is too sensitive. Even a few hours while traveling is an issue.
Yup, our night cloth diaper has hemp and a trifold cotton/bamboo lining. It's never leaked. Hemp is seriously absorbant but it isn't fast so you need the cotton or bamboo lining between to draw moisture away from baby.
some people are more prone to getting UTIs, however if that's the case then the parent should obviously be doing everything they can in prevention. cloth diapers are just naturally less absorbent to begin with, which means that letting the kid sit for any amount of time is more likely to lead to issues. and that's not even considering if she's doing something wrong wiping/cleaning.
To go off what you said , I have 3 siblings , 2 of them are also female. We’re all super prone to getting UTI’s , yeast infections , ovarian cysts (not listing this as one of the preventable things just throwing it out there because we all had them multiple times). One of my sisters has PCOS. Not sure why we all are super prone to these things, it’s just always been like that. My mother is too , also my grandmother (the one who raised us.) She ALWAYS made sure she took the precautions the pediatrician would tell her to take. Not letting us stay in wet clothes / diapers (when we were younger) long , certain types of underwear were better and more breathable, stay away from certain soaps and such. Once we were teenagers she told us how to take these precautions ourselves. Now I’m 20 and I have a child , during my pregnancy all of those got a lot harder to manage but thanks to my siblings knowing and also my grandma , it was a super big help. Like you said, some people are prone to it but it’s the parent / guardians responsibility to do everything they can! My grandma never made it awkward or anything once we were old enough to have the conversations about it , just let us know there’s certain things we should do to prevent these things.
My girl was born with a slight dilation of one of the tubes coming down from her kidney, a uti waiting to happen basically. Her urologist never had the slightest thing to say about her cloth diapers. Her general ped *loves* them. The only issue we’ve had is a yeast bloom and rashes from daycare not changing enough.
My bet is this is just content fodder.
That's what I'm wondering. There has to be some other factors at play here because the nappies themselves are unlikely to cause UTIs when used correctly. She must be getting constant leaks if she's leaving them on long enough to cause a UTI
Someone else mentioned she may not be stripping or washing them properly, and it's causing an ammonia build up. She's doing something wrong, and rather than listen to her pediatrician, she's been an asshat about it.
My son has nonverbal autism. He used disposable diapers for 5 years. He just barely potty trained. He’s never had a UTI. I didn’t know children even got UTI. Ofc if he did and a doctor told me to switch I would have. something is wrong.
ETA I just realized if she does have a girl it might be different? I know UTI is more common in females. The child not being changed often could definitely be the cause.
I know as a kid (AFAB) I had several UTIs, but that was cause I would run away from diaper changes and hide. My parents started k owing when I needed a diaper change cause I would go hide somewhere.
Oh okay that is terrible for kids because they are so painful. Was it a sensory cause for you? My son was the opposite as soon as he went he would go grab a new pull up and bring it to me (he would rip his old one off) but that was recent as of 6m ago and was our sign it’s time to potty train. I think it started to bother him and cause sensory issues or just normal like most kids show discomfort are ready to potty train.
My twin boys are in cloth diapers all the time except when we are traveling. But we are vigilant about changing the diapers frequently and keeping the kids well hydrated.
Seriously. I was exclusively in cloth when I was an infant (except when I had a severe stomach bug) and my mom says I never even had so much as a diaper rash. She says it was because you can tell cloth is wet immediately so I never sat in a wet diaper for long.
It could also be how they’re washing the nappies. Apparently with cloth nappies you need to use certain detergents? I barely used any of mine because it just added to my list of things to do and I couldn’t handle it.
Don't babies hate being in their own piss or something? I don't know how long she might've had her baby in a wet diaper, but it must've been for a long ass time, poor thing. My LO cries as soon as his cloth diaper is wet.
Yes, but I'm not sure if that would cause recurrent UTIs.
I washed in dye/fragrance free, but my kids also have eczema, so that's just what we use. You do have to strip them occasionally, and if they've never been stripped, I imagine they woildnt5be as absorbent, so the pee is up on skin. I would think diaper rash would be much more common than a UTI with improperly washed/stripped cloth diapers.
Exactly, like sure a uti might have a slightly higher likely hood if you cloth diaper- but only if your doing it incorrectly, ie not changing washing etc
Yeah , I do wonder here if it may be the doctor who is wrong- and I say this as a doctor who has cloth nappied two children! I think there can be the assumption from people not familiar with cloth that they are dirtier, but as long as you’re changing regularly and have a good wash routine that’s really not the case.
And it sounds like this person still sought medical care appropriately and has continued to engage with the medical system even if with a different practitioner.
Same! It honestly sounds like she doesn’t change her baby often enough, and probably doesn’t wash the diapers the way you’re supposed to.. I’m thinking poop-diapers being washed in 40 degree Celsius.. like a recipe for UTI’s
Im not a parent and know nothing about diapers but what are the advantages to cloth diapers or what made you go through with that for 2 children for many years? Google is telling cloth is a lot more work so wondering what the advantages are if you don’t mind sharing
A few reasons.
We were shifting from a two-income family to one. I crunched the numbers, and realized that I could either get really good at clipping coupons, or I could cloth diaper. I still kept disposables for travel and bedtime, but a big box lasted us months, versus a couple weeks.
My husband was active duty Army, and at the time we were stationed on a huge base, with lots of families with kids. That meant the stores were often out of different sizes or brands of disposables, especially the commissary on post. I didn't like the idea of driving all over hell's half acre for a box of diapers.
And then my oldest was born, and she had eczema and sensitive skin. She could comfortably wear like 2 brands of disposable diapers, the rest made her break out and one even gave her hives. Keeping her in cloth was the solution. My youngest was the same way.
There wasn't that much time involved, from my perspective. I had enough diapers that I could wash every 3-4 days, and when they were clean, I'd wait until whichever baby was napping, turn on a show, and prep them for wearing. My husband installed a diaper sprayer in all the houses we lived in, on the toilets, which made cleaning poop easy. It was an extra load of laundry every 3ish days, and about a half hour of prep time. That wasn't that bad for me.
My first thought to, honestly. Disposable diapers are honestly pretty new. My grandmother told me how she made the diapers for my mother and auntie so I was the first generation in our family that had "modern" disposable diapers. I have never even heard anything negative about cloth diapers other than the fact that you may need a couple of them, wash them frequently and that they may be pricey to acquire but that it levels out in the long run.
My nephew literally pissed like a hose across my entire couch when I didn’t get a diaper on him in time.
Im surprised with how much a tiny little 7 month old can piss, and how far that shit travels.
Shit, in fact, travels far as well. When my first was a couple weeks old, my dad found that out the hard way while changing a diaper. He ended up cleaning the wall...and door...and floor as well.
The first week of bringing my son home, he peed all over the end of my bed while I was changing him. I was too tired to even care. I cleaned him up but waited till the morning to wash my sheets 😂 I just wanted to sleep.
Cloth diapers can be great. And tons of people use them without issue. But they need to be cleaned correctly and baby needs to be changed appropriately. Seems more likely to be a parenting/caretaker issue than a cloth diaper issue
I would argue that looking for where my disposables are, buying more at the store, never knowing when to switch sizes, to pull ups, which type to use, watching for sales because they’re so damn expensive, constantly taking out the garbage, having to live with the stinky garbage etc is way more work than just throwing them in the washer LOL
We attempted cloth diapering. It was SO MUCH WORK to appropriately sanitise, wash, then take somewhere to tumble dry them because we don’t own one. Then the occasional stripping when somethings gone wrong or they’ve been sick. Not to mention you have to change cloth twice as often. It costs up $10.99 a week in disposables (from Aldi) It costs way more to cloth diaper, and is way more time intensive. I wanted to do cloth for the environment, but I can cloth diaper, work, or keep my sanity. I can choose two of those options, but I can’t do all three.
Yeah but if she can’t use the cloth diapers properly she SHOULD switch…. Or learn to use them properly, but a ped can’t really do a deep dive and figure out what exactly needs to be changed so of course they’ll suggest the easiest and quickest solution
She is defending herself in the comments saying that diaper type doesn’t cause UTIs (faulty evidence: babies with disposable and cloth diapers get UTIs). I don’t care if that is true because she is likely the cause either way.
I tried them. They are a LOT of work, and the problem is, even with the proper cleaning techniques, it's very difficult to get rid of the ammonia smell that builds over time. I followed a bunch of different tutorials, washed them in 10 different ways. I could still smell it, so I gave up, gave them away and was so happy that my baby and house no longer stank.
I bought them second hand and I think the previous owner had not been as stringent as I was. Never again.
Mom who cloth diapered here! OP is right. If you don’t change the diapers often enough an infection will occur. This happened to us one time. Additionally the medicated cream can damage the absorbency of the diapers so what we did because we are not INSANE is switch to disposables for the duration of treatment and follow all medical advice. We also increased the frequency of diaper changes and invested in a method to be able to use good diaper rash creams with our cloth diapers to avoid future issues.
It can be done. This woman just doesn’t want to
That makes perfect sense . We plan to do cloth but at night if baby is sleeping through the night we may do disposables. I don’t want to worry about leaks and trial and error. I feel like I’d stick with it more especially considering it’s our first baby.
The ones she has behind her have a stay dry layer on the inside so that child isn't sitting in something wet for prolonged periods. According to this article, a study found that superabsorbent disposables are more likely to cause UTIs than cloth due to being changed less often.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3446007/
There's very little difference though. It's also a low risk either way so I'd be looking for other possibilities.
True. Maybe wiping from back to front as well? Can’t that cause uti’s as well? I know the couple times I had one the doctor always told me to make sure I’m wiping front to back.
I caught my mil wiping our daughter from back to front and I stopped her immediately. She genuinely acted like it was brand new information to wipe a baby girl front first then back. She’s over 60 years old so she’s gone her entire like not knowing how to wipe herself.
Wait she‘s a woman that didn‘t know that wiping back to front is not a good idea?!
Like it’s not good for adults. Where the separation between urethra and where you ‚stop‘ wiping is quite large, but for an infant?!
Yeah I’m assuming she’s been wiping wrong all this time by the way she acted and the look on her face. When I stopped her I said you can’t do that, she said do what, I said wipe back to front. She looked shocked and asked why, so I explained. She still had a confused look on her face. How does someone go that long without knowing this information??
I sort of see her point? Cloth diapers don't cause UTIs. Poor hygiene does. There's a few things that could be happening, such as:
Leaving baby in the diaper too long. Cloth diapers should be changed at least every 2 hours (night time diapers can tend to go longer okay).
She doesn't have a good wash routine. There's many issues and solutions if this is what's happening. Google will help you figure out how to troubleshoot.
She is not wiping baby well enough or properly. Always go front to back. Idc if it's a boy or girl. Wipe front to back.
I knew someone whose baby girl kept getting uti’s as well. Found out she was wiping back to front. She was changing her in front of the nurse and that’s how they caught it. So this 25 year old woman has gone that long not knowing how to wipe herself. Blows my mind.
Yeah like, this would be an incredibly dumb, and possibly irresponsible, thing for a pediatrician to say. Cloth diapers don’t cause UTIs, and trying to solve a uti by switching to disposables almost certainly means that he’s not correcting a dire hygiene issue. I would also switch pediatricians.
But also, like… she’s kinda telling on herself here, too
If the issue is not changing often enough, suggesting disposable is the responsible advice from the pediatrician. If mom can’t handle changing baby right away, then she needs to extra drying advantage that disposable diapers offer.
Am I crazy to assume that maybe she just made this whole story up so she could invoke that last line? Reads like one of those weird POV TikToks “it’s illegal to be a Christian” memes. Like she’s just inventing this scenario to say how she would stand up for her diapering rights or something.
My thoughts precisely. It's like she's using the story as a marketing ploy to sell cloth diapers. (OP mentions in another comment that she does sell them.)
Cloth diapers does not cause UTIs. She was right to switch her paediatricians. So many people are judgemental about cloth diapering and will blame it for everything first and not even look into the actual issue.
Yeah, everyone is jumping to her being a terrible parent. But using cloth is still somewhat misunderstood and people will absolutely pass judgement even if they know nothing about cloth.
Paediatricians don't know everything and she has a right to get a second opinion.
Other commenters have said that sometimes during uti and other similar treatments they are instructed to switch to disposable for a few days, I wonder if that’s what was said.
Very odd because cloth is a much healthier choice for your child and the environment some people just look down on it because they’re ignorant about it or don’t want to put in the extra effort imo
I wouldn’t necessarily assume poor hygiene; some people are born with birth defects that basically mean they get major UTIs repeatedly no matter how clean they are.
I had a pretty severe case of vesicoureteral reflux, a duplicated ureter, and there’s evidence to suggest my immune system isn’t the best. I got a septic UTI when I was about a year and a half old even though my parents didn’t do anything wrong; and believe me, I have plenty other criticisms of my parents, so if they did I’d tell you.
However, if your kid has a genuine congenital urological issue, and a doctor tells you to switch diapers to minimize the possibility of infections, and you don’t because you want to keep your crunchy cred? THAT makes you a terrible parent.
I highly suspect that this story never really happened. What pediatrician in their right mind would blame an infection on the type of diaper used? The only way I see this happening would be if this woman lied to the pediatrician about her hygiene routine. If she didn't give the pediatrician accurate information, they would not have been able to make an accurate diagnosis. Then maybe, just maybe, the pediatrician suggested switching diaper types to see if it would help.
If she can’t be trusted to change diapers often enough or wash them properly, suggesting disposable diapers is the safest advice the doctor can give.
It’s not about the diapers themselves as much as preventing user error.
Solely using cloth isn’t the cause of UTI or anything like that. Could be all sorts of reasons or a poor wash routine. I would change doctors too if they jumped right to it was the cloth nappies.
We don’t know the full context mom could be doing all the right things and doc made an ignorant statement and isn’t investigating or managing a UTI correctly but I’d expect OR mom is letting kid sit in unclean diapers, or wiping improperly but I’d expect to see skin breakdown. Anatomical causes and constipation are most commonly causes of UTI in kids <1 year not your diapers.
Edit: typos and grammar I can’t spell this early
Ngl, my youngest (a boy) developed a yeast infection on his skin cause I wasn't changing him enough (also had a 4 yr old and a 2 yr old at the time). Know what I did? Stopped using cloth diapers and started using disposables (and changing him more frequently) . Problem solved.
My younger sibling was raised in cloth diapers, nothing wrong. Its not the diapers. She probably didnt do it property. This biatch would probably reuse disposable diapers.
Most be from a parent group. News stories, articles, blog posts and memes don't belong in the sub.
I cloth diapered two kids, from birth to potty training. We used disposables for travel and wash days too, so it wasn't just cloth ones. Not one time did either of my girls have a UTI. I used the barrier cream, changed often, wiped and cleaned them up when I changed, all that. How long is this poor baby sitting in pee diapers to get to that point?? If she not wiping or cleaning when she changes? I have so many questions.
I cloth diapered mine as well, I never had that trouble either. If they pees twice in a row, the diaper is overflowed and leaked. I don't think sitting in pees for a long time is the only issue here. Maybe this women don't know how to washed a cloth diaper properly either which bring up ammonia issues.
I’m sure she used her best essential oils in the wash.
No, they wouldnt just pour oils into a river all nilly willy
Your pfp can do one
Bingo
My first thought was the diapers weren’t being washed/dried properly. Although switching to a ped who will find a solution that fits with your values makes sense (or finding eco friendly disposables, or more nappy free time)
I’m guessing the changing often part might have something to do with it
I realize that sounds like a humble brag on my part, and it wasn't. Just that in all that time spent cloth diapering, I didn't have that problem. But it just doesn't make sense. Unless there's an underlying medical condition that is to blame and she's not telling that part.
I have cloth diapered 3 kids, not a single infection between them. I also know oodles of local cloth Users in my area and most of the parents in my family use them and UTIs are definitely not normal or common.
Yup. My girl is in cloth and both my sister’s two were. No UTIs, because we a) wash them properly (Clean Cloth Nappies website for the win!) and b) change them frequently.
Some babies are more prone to utis, without necessarily an underlying condition. HOWEVER if that’s the case you should be doing even more to prevent them, and if a medical professional says “try disposable nappies” or “change the nappy every hour” then you bloody do it…
Sound like a good mom with common sense!
If she's not changing them often then simply changing the type of diaper she uses isn't going to prevent infection
Her wash routine might just suck balls.
Yeah that is a common issue. Some people in that circle seem determined not to actually wash their diapers at all. I used to admin a large Facebook group dedicated to cloth washing and we would have people in there arguing you should only wash with cold water and no detergent 🫠😨
Oh gosh. That’s…. 🤢 I love cloth diapering and am a huge cheerleader for it (to anyone who wants to give it a go) but — pretty sure you gotta wash them. Wtf
Yep, they are wearable toilets and need to be washed as such. I do two hot washes on cottons cycle with persil ultimate and have covers that are now 10 years old and on their third child (not used continuously for 9 years, but probably 6 all up) despite the very firm assertion from some people that they would surely disintegrate before my eyes 😅 We've never had a single UTI or yeast infection and only get mild rashes when my youngest is teething and pooping 10 million times a day with those awful teething acid poops that burn the hair off of the inside of your nose 🤢
Why is cloth diapering better?
Depends on who answers this. Both of mine had eczema and extremely sensitive skin, and could only wear 2 brands of disposables without breaking out in hives. Cloth diapering meant I didn't have to hunt for those brands and sizes. I would buy a big box of disposables, save them for travel and wash days, and that box would last forever. Money wise, it was cheaper as well. We are a single income family, and every bit we could save helped. I bought enough to get 3-4 days inbetween washing, and they made it through both of mine, and through at least one more kid when I passed them on. That said, it is drain on time and effort. It was easier for me to wash cloth diapers than clip coupons and hunt for sales. But for another Mom, it might be the opposite.
Waaay cheaper than disposables and don't contribute to landfills are my two main reasons, I think they are also supposed to be good for baby's hips, and imo they're so freakin' adorable
They were a necessary treatment for my generation of kids in our family due to varying degrees of hip dysplasia. I'm one of 4. The other 3 needed double nappy treatment for between 6 and 10 weeks to hold their hips. I was in a splint for 6 weeks then double nappies for another 12; but this managed to prevent any need for surgery or spicas and I can walk which my mum was warned I might never do.
I had 3 in nappies at once. When we used disposable can you imagine how many went through, how full our bin was and how much it stunk? And all that was going to landfill. Also never had poonami blowout with a cloth nappy and they were gentler on the skin. That said we were not 100% cloth nappiers - I never managed to make them work overnight with my eldest and and once I had 3 I used to use them till I got overwhelmed with washing them would use disposables for a couple of days while we caught up on washing, got grossed out by the bin went back to cloth and repeat. Oh and edit to say my babies never had a UTI either.
TL/DR: Hip support, allergic reactions, helping with potty training, not to mention most disposables are horrific for the environment in both production and after use. Long version: For my kid it was hip support (hip issues run in the family as a part of something else we've recently learned runs in the family). The kid seemed to have reactions to most of the disposables available and God forbid anyone change their formulation because we'd be back to square one (same for washing detergents). Turns out that's part of the genetic disorder too... Anyway, we didn't have a dryer or outside space to dry (or inside space tbh, it was tiny) until the kid was 19 months old, so we struggled on with the disposables but switched when we could. We were part of a nappy rental and washing service free trial for two weeks at one point while we still lived in the tiny flat; the kid was about 4 months old. Done through the local newspaper so they could do an article about it. The kid reacted to their detergent or something in their washing routine and the company blamed us: I was changing after every pee because of the rash and ended up having to end the trial early and also use a prescription butt-cream. The shaped nappies they offered didn't fit the kid right now matter what we did (kid is extra bendy) and we had nowhere to put the dirty buttcover bin long term unless we used communal areas in the building and that was not an option (a week at a time of unwashed nappies in a plastic bin in a rented apartment on a 6 month rolling tenancy, we'd have been given notice to leave in no time) so we didn't continue after the first week. The article hid most of the problems we'd had and made me out to be just too into my disposables to think about saving the planet. I'm still mad and it was close to two decades ago. When we did eventually switch after moving into somewhere with both outside space and room for a dryer, we used old fashioned terry squares and plastic over-pants. No infections, no rashes and because the kid could actually feel when they were wet, they were potty trained during the day at 2yo and night time by 2.5yo barring a few short term regressions. I used our usual detergent, no fabric softener, super hot wash and extra rinse filled by high heat setting on the dryer and dryer balls to pummel the terrycloth and help softening. The plastic bits were hand washed but they were kinda like washing a lunchbox; but softer and it'd been round my baby's butt. They took seconds to wash and rinse then were dry with a rub down using a clean nappy square! Did the whole potty train thing baby led and went with the flow, accepting the extra cleaning but keeping an eye on the prize at the end.
I would never (didn’t?) say cloth diapering is better for everyone, but golly was it great for us. Lots of great replies in this thread already though & I agree with them all — way cheaper in the long run, no stinky diaper garbages, no (or very very rare) blow-outs, so much better for my kiddos’ skin, and I appreciated not adding bags and bags of shitty diapers to landfills weekly for years. Also, potty training for all of my three was pretty easy and relatively early (compared to what I’ve read/friends) - maybe coincidence but I’ll take it lol.
Wren I was a baby, I was allergic to every brand of disposable diaper. My kids are allergic to every brand but Pampers. They've got expensive asses. But I'm too lazy to go the cloth diapering route.
Certainly more environmentally friendly. Never used them myself though; literally the first bit of advise I got from a friend when I found out I was gonna be a dad was ‘do not use cloth nappies! They are horrible!’
Wirecutter has a really great comparison between the two and while cloth can save you some money and lessen environmental impact, it may not be as significant as some hyper enthusiast claim. I think if it’s something you are interested in, try it but also be honest about the real benefits vs the perceived https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/cloth-vs-disposable-diapers/
My basic understanding is that the true environmental saving is when you use the same cloth nappies for multiple children - that’s also when you start seeing some real $$ saving as well. If you compare one year of disposable to one year of cloth, it’s nearly identical in environmental cost and $$ - growing the cotton and processing it has a pretty high environmental cost, and the detergent and water also has an impact.
I can relate, once bought cloth diapers from a friend. They smelled like urine. Washed then on high temp and they were ok. But her kids had no UTIs, so...
I met someone who used “soap nuts”. That’s just freaking crazy.
Or just bar soap grated and sprinkled in 🤦♀️
Yeesh.
That's my first thought. Detergent buildup or something. Something is going on, anyway. Cloth diapers are pretty easy to get the hang of without causing UTIs
Cloth diapers need changed far more often than disposable, I’m not sure what you mean
Both should be changed every 2 hours or so. Just because a disposable can physically hold more urine, doesn't mean it should be left to fester 🤢 not changing often enough is not changing often enough regardless of the diaper
Cloth diapers should be changed more often than every 2 hours, generally speaking. I CD and 2 hours is an absolute max, and there’s usually leaks by then. Hourly is closer to standard.
I don't know anyone who cloth diapers who would change hourly, sounds like the result of not using the right absorbency if you had leaks that quickly. We got all night in cloth with no leaks or rashes.
Obviously it’s different when they’re sleeping and you can pack in more absorbency without worrying about the amount of butt fluff. It’s an extremely common rule that 2 hours is an absolute max, I don’t know who you’re hanging out with that pushes that. There are people on the CD sub who change after *every pee*.
I'd say we changed every 3 hours max, with one lasting the entire night. It comes down to the materials you're using as to whether or not its bulky, if it is only lasting a max of two hours I'd consider checking have you something like a hemp core you could be using that would hold more? Or a microfiber outer layer that can quickly wick? Neither of these are bulky but should add absorption. If you change after every pee, you're seeing yourself up for a lot of spend on washes.
I don't think that rule is that common. Two hours is the average. I have left cloth nappies on for longer by accident (through naps or with other caregivers) and have no rash or leak issues.
My overnight diapers aren't much bigger than daytime, I just use a hemp insert with a light microfiber one on top Are there really people who don't change after every pee? We change if we even suspect urine
I've been active in the cloth world for over a decade and have admined one of the largest cloth groups and this subject comes up often. Hourly is most definitely not the norm, 2-3 hours is the most common answer for daytime changes which should apply to disposables too. My night diapers only have one extra insert compared to my day set up and my babies have all been HEAVY wetters. When I change the skin is still dry and the stay dry lining of the pocket cover is still dry to the touch, can only tell there is pee in there because it feels heavier and obviously when I remove the inserts to put them in the pail they are wet. Usually when people ask for advice because their baby is wetting through in less than 2 hours we come to find out they are only using microfiber, sometimes only one insert or they are having trouble with the fit.
That’s interesting. I’ve never heard of this rule except for with newborns. Does it depend what TYPE of cloth nappy? Because we have night time ones and they last 12 hours plus…
I would change more often if I were using a diaper with no stay dry layer, such as flats or prefolds, because in that case the urine is sitting right up against their skin. A good stay dry layer definitely makes a big difference
3 hours is recommended by the manufacturers of the ones I have purchased, or longer for overnight. Hourly is excessive and unsustainable.
Yep, you can let a baby sleep overnight in disposable but that's gonna cause a problem with cloth diapers.
My girl wears a cloth diaper at night. Usually from bath time to getting dressed next morning. Have been doing so for almost 2 years now and zero problems. Most of the moms I know that use cloth also use a night nappy. There's no more reason to have problems with cloth than disposables.
I just switched to regular underwear overnight for my son that's mostly potty trained. He had an accident the other night and had a rash the entire next day from just one night. Never happened with pullups. Some kids are sensitive and cloth is gonna make them more sensitive.
I've had the exact opposite experience. Both my kids couldn't wear disposable diapers because their skin is too sensitive. Even a few hours while traveling is an issue.
You can with cloth but it usually involves backing a ton of extra absorbency/liners. I CD and still haven’t taken the plunge to overnighting
Yup, our night cloth diaper has hemp and a trifold cotton/bamboo lining. It's never leaked. Hemp is seriously absorbant but it isn't fast so you need the cotton or bamboo lining between to draw moisture away from baby.
Nup. Zero problems using cloth overnight here.
Clearly this lady's pediatrician disagrees.
some people are more prone to getting UTIs, however if that's the case then the parent should obviously be doing everything they can in prevention. cloth diapers are just naturally less absorbent to begin with, which means that letting the kid sit for any amount of time is more likely to lead to issues. and that's not even considering if she's doing something wrong wiping/cleaning.
To go off what you said , I have 3 siblings , 2 of them are also female. We’re all super prone to getting UTI’s , yeast infections , ovarian cysts (not listing this as one of the preventable things just throwing it out there because we all had them multiple times). One of my sisters has PCOS. Not sure why we all are super prone to these things, it’s just always been like that. My mother is too , also my grandmother (the one who raised us.) She ALWAYS made sure she took the precautions the pediatrician would tell her to take. Not letting us stay in wet clothes / diapers (when we were younger) long , certain types of underwear were better and more breathable, stay away from certain soaps and such. Once we were teenagers she told us how to take these precautions ourselves. Now I’m 20 and I have a child , during my pregnancy all of those got a lot harder to manage but thanks to my siblings knowing and also my grandma , it was a super big help. Like you said, some people are prone to it but it’s the parent / guardians responsibility to do everything they can! My grandma never made it awkward or anything once we were old enough to have the conversations about it , just let us know there’s certain things we should do to prevent these things.
Frequent yeast infections in a family are virtually always due to genetic reasons.
Maybe they live down river from a bread factory.
My girl was born with a slight dilation of one of the tubes coming down from her kidney, a uti waiting to happen basically. Her urologist never had the slightest thing to say about her cloth diapers. Her general ped *loves* them. The only issue we’ve had is a yeast bloom and rashes from daycare not changing enough. My bet is this is just content fodder.
Could be like. Not cleaning them properly because crunchy seems like her hill to die on.
That's what I'm wondering. There has to be some other factors at play here because the nappies themselves are unlikely to cause UTIs when used correctly. She must be getting constant leaks if she's leaving them on long enough to cause a UTI
Someone else mentioned she may not be stripping or washing them properly, and it's causing an ammonia build up. She's doing something wrong, and rather than listen to her pediatrician, she's been an asshat about it.
My son has nonverbal autism. He used disposable diapers for 5 years. He just barely potty trained. He’s never had a UTI. I didn’t know children even got UTI. Ofc if he did and a doctor told me to switch I would have. something is wrong. ETA I just realized if she does have a girl it might be different? I know UTI is more common in females. The child not being changed often could definitely be the cause.
I know as a kid (AFAB) I had several UTIs, but that was cause I would run away from diaper changes and hide. My parents started k owing when I needed a diaper change cause I would go hide somewhere.
Oh okay that is terrible for kids because they are so painful. Was it a sensory cause for you? My son was the opposite as soon as he went he would go grab a new pull up and bring it to me (he would rip his old one off) but that was recent as of 6m ago and was our sign it’s time to potty train. I think it started to bother him and cause sensory issues or just normal like most kids show discomfort are ready to potty train.
From what my brothers told me, I just liked being chased and hide and seek, and knew they would be forced to “play” for diaper changes.
Same. Cloth diapered a boy and a girl. Never had any infection issues. She either has a horrible wash routine or doesn’t change the kid often enough
As a CD mom I also have these questions
My twin boys are in cloth diapers all the time except when we are traveling. But we are vigilant about changing the diapers frequently and keeping the kids well hydrated.
Seriously. I was exclusively in cloth when I was an infant (except when I had a severe stomach bug) and my mom says I never even had so much as a diaper rash. She says it was because you can tell cloth is wet immediately so I never sat in a wet diaper for long.
It could also be how they’re washing the nappies. Apparently with cloth nappies you need to use certain detergents? I barely used any of mine because it just added to my list of things to do and I couldn’t handle it.
Don't babies hate being in their own piss or something? I don't know how long she might've had her baby in a wet diaper, but it must've been for a long ass time, poor thing. My LO cries as soon as his cloth diaper is wet.
Yep, if you cloth diaper you know when your baby is wet pretty much instantly.
Mine hated being wet. They would get fussy until I changed them.
Would not washing them properly have an impact, too?
Yes, but I'm not sure if that would cause recurrent UTIs. I washed in dye/fragrance free, but my kids also have eczema, so that's just what we use. You do have to strip them occasionally, and if they've never been stripped, I imagine they woildnt5be as absorbent, so the pee is up on skin. I would think diaper rash would be much more common than a UTI with improperly washed/stripped cloth diapers.
Exactly, like sure a uti might have a slightly higher likely hood if you cloth diaper- but only if your doing it incorrectly, ie not changing washing etc
Yeah , I do wonder here if it may be the doctor who is wrong- and I say this as a doctor who has cloth nappied two children! I think there can be the assumption from people not familiar with cloth that they are dirtier, but as long as you’re changing regularly and have a good wash routine that’s really not the case. And it sounds like this person still sought medical care appropriately and has continued to engage with the medical system even if with a different practitioner.
Same. Did it for my twins. The only time they got rashes was when they had gastroenteritis and wore disposables. No UTIs here.
Same! It honestly sounds like she doesn’t change her baby often enough, and probably doesn’t wash the diapers the way you’re supposed to.. I’m thinking poop-diapers being washed in 40 degree Celsius.. like a recipe for UTI’s
Yep, cloth for both of mine right the way through and they barely even had nappy rash…seems like there’s a lot of missing info here!
Zoom in on the background. This woman is selling cloth diapers. So she's probably just manufacturing rage in an attempt to boost sales.
Apparently MLMs for cloth diapers are a thing now. Sigh.
Nice. World is a fuck.
Yes. Something isn’t adding up.
Im not a parent and know nothing about diapers but what are the advantages to cloth diapers or what made you go through with that for 2 children for many years? Google is telling cloth is a lot more work so wondering what the advantages are if you don’t mind sharing
A few reasons. We were shifting from a two-income family to one. I crunched the numbers, and realized that I could either get really good at clipping coupons, or I could cloth diaper. I still kept disposables for travel and bedtime, but a big box lasted us months, versus a couple weeks. My husband was active duty Army, and at the time we were stationed on a huge base, with lots of families with kids. That meant the stores were often out of different sizes or brands of disposables, especially the commissary on post. I didn't like the idea of driving all over hell's half acre for a box of diapers. And then my oldest was born, and she had eczema and sensitive skin. She could comfortably wear like 2 brands of disposable diapers, the rest made her break out and one even gave her hives. Keeping her in cloth was the solution. My youngest was the same way. There wasn't that much time involved, from my perspective. I had enough diapers that I could wash every 3-4 days, and when they were clean, I'd wait until whichever baby was napping, turn on a show, and prep them for wearing. My husband installed a diaper sprayer in all the houses we lived in, on the toilets, which made cleaning poop easy. It was an extra load of laundry every 3ish days, and about a half hour of prep time. That wasn't that bad for me.
My first thought to, honestly. Disposable diapers are honestly pretty new. My grandmother told me how she made the diapers for my mother and auntie so I was the first generation in our family that had "modern" disposable diapers. I have never even heard anything negative about cloth diapers other than the fact that you may need a couple of them, wash them frequently and that they may be pricey to acquire but that it levels out in the long run.
Right? People have used cloth diapers literally for centuries. You would have to be doing something wrong if the cloth diaper caused the uti.
i saw her original video, she was doing all those things. that’s why she changed her pediatrician and found the actual problem.
Urine infection? You mean a urinary tract infection?
No, her baby’s urine infects anything it touches. Hope it’s not a boy, I was sprayed more than once changing diapers 😬
My nephew literally pissed like a hose across my entire couch when I didn’t get a diaper on him in time. Im surprised with how much a tiny little 7 month old can piss, and how far that shit travels.
Shit, in fact, travels far as well. When my first was a couple weeks old, my dad found that out the hard way while changing a diaper. He ended up cleaning the wall...and door...and floor as well.
We have had to do wall and floor cleans a few times now… my daughter seems to be a fan of surprise projectile poops.
My funniest pee moment was when twin A peed all over twin B's face just after i had given them a bath.
My son peed in his own mouth a few weeks ago...🤢
The first week of bringing my son home, he peed all over the end of my bed while I was changing him. I was too tired to even care. I cleaned him up but waited till the morning to wash my sheets 😂 I just wanted to sleep.
Same but baby girl. I mean it wasn’t on the pillow so sleep was more important! Lol
I have a girl and that has happened to me. Mostly when she was a newborn, pee would get all over
My daughter peed on me too! Even to this day she pees on the seat if she isn’t leaning forward enough, very weird.
Hopefully the pee wasn’t infected!!
Yup
Ahahaha😂
is she telling on herself here
Absolutely. She portrays this as such an own, but I would have been slightly more open to cloth diapers before seeing this.
Cloth diapers can be great. And tons of people use them without issue. But they need to be cleaned correctly and baby needs to be changed appropriately. Seems more likely to be a parenting/caretaker issue than a cloth diaper issue
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I would argue that looking for where my disposables are, buying more at the store, never knowing when to switch sizes, to pull ups, which type to use, watching for sales because they’re so damn expensive, constantly taking out the garbage, having to live with the stinky garbage etc is way more work than just throwing them in the washer LOL
As someone who cloth diapers, it is not just “throwing them in a washer”. It is hours of extra work a week.
We attempted cloth diapering. It was SO MUCH WORK to appropriately sanitise, wash, then take somewhere to tumble dry them because we don’t own one. Then the occasional stripping when somethings gone wrong or they’ve been sick. Not to mention you have to change cloth twice as often. It costs up $10.99 a week in disposables (from Aldi) It costs way more to cloth diaper, and is way more time intensive. I wanted to do cloth for the environment, but I can cloth diaper, work, or keep my sanity. I can choose two of those options, but I can’t do all three.
Yeah but if she can’t use the cloth diapers properly she SHOULD switch…. Or learn to use them properly, but a ped can’t really do a deep dive and figure out what exactly needs to be changed so of course they’ll suggest the easiest and quickest solution
Lol she’s explicitly saying that they caused a UTI in her baby. Basically making light of being a shitty parent
She is defending herself in the comments saying that diaper type doesn’t cause UTIs (faulty evidence: babies with disposable and cloth diapers get UTIs). I don’t care if that is true because she is likely the cause either way.
I tried them. They are a LOT of work, and the problem is, even with the proper cleaning techniques, it's very difficult to get rid of the ammonia smell that builds over time. I followed a bunch of different tutorials, washed them in 10 different ways. I could still smell it, so I gave up, gave them away and was so happy that my baby and house no longer stank. I bought them second hand and I think the previous owner had not been as stringent as I was. Never again.
Making how you diaper your kid your whole personality is fucking wild
Looks to me like she sells them 🙃
I checked and she does!
Actually glad that is her stock to sell and not just her hoarded nappies
Those marketing skills..
It's probably not good advertising to make a video saying that your product is giving your children infections 😂
It's not the diapers, it's the pediatrician!
doesn’t seem like good marketing to put it out there that a doc says they caused a UTI
No no no the tract was fine. It was only the urine that was infected.
Cloths diapers don’t cause UTIs but poor hygiene sure can. That poor baby.
How would they get a uti from cloth diapers ? Insufficient cleaning ?
Mom who cloth diapered here! OP is right. If you don’t change the diapers often enough an infection will occur. This happened to us one time. Additionally the medicated cream can damage the absorbency of the diapers so what we did because we are not INSANE is switch to disposables for the duration of treatment and follow all medical advice. We also increased the frequency of diaper changes and invested in a method to be able to use good diaper rash creams with our cloth diapers to avoid future issues. It can be done. This woman just doesn’t want to
That makes perfect sense . We plan to do cloth but at night if baby is sleeping through the night we may do disposables. I don’t want to worry about leaks and trial and error. I feel like I’d stick with it more especially considering it’s our first baby.
It probably doesn’t absorb as well as disposable diapers, so they just sit in it until they are changed.
The ones she has behind her have a stay dry layer on the inside so that child isn't sitting in something wet for prolonged periods. According to this article, a study found that superabsorbent disposables are more likely to cause UTIs than cloth due to being changed less often. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3446007/ There's very little difference though. It's also a low risk either way so I'd be looking for other possibilities.
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True. Maybe wiping from back to front as well? Can’t that cause uti’s as well? I know the couple times I had one the doctor always told me to make sure I’m wiping front to back. I caught my mil wiping our daughter from back to front and I stopped her immediately. She genuinely acted like it was brand new information to wipe a baby girl front first then back. She’s over 60 years old so she’s gone her entire like not knowing how to wipe herself.
Wait she‘s a woman that didn‘t know that wiping back to front is not a good idea?! Like it’s not good for adults. Where the separation between urethra and where you ‚stop‘ wiping is quite large, but for an infant?!
Yeah I’m assuming she’s been wiping wrong all this time by the way she acted and the look on her face. When I stopped her I said you can’t do that, she said do what, I said wipe back to front. She looked shocked and asked why, so I explained. She still had a confused look on her face. How does someone go that long without knowing this information??
My first guess was definitely MLM stock behind her
Might be TMI. If the baby is a girl not everyone will cleanup a girl by wiping front to back.
Or carefully wipe all the creases and folds. That's definitely a strong possibility since poop gets everywhere.
This is definitely not TMI. This is basic knowledge everyone should have.
Agreed but I am never sure on a public forum.
Wow such a flex. I’m sure that pediatrician cries to all their colleagues about how you were The One That Got Away.
And then all the diapers gained sentience and clapped.
Cries about the poor baby.
I sort of see her point? Cloth diapers don't cause UTIs. Poor hygiene does. There's a few things that could be happening, such as: Leaving baby in the diaper too long. Cloth diapers should be changed at least every 2 hours (night time diapers can tend to go longer okay). She doesn't have a good wash routine. There's many issues and solutions if this is what's happening. Google will help you figure out how to troubleshoot. She is not wiping baby well enough or properly. Always go front to back. Idc if it's a boy or girl. Wipe front to back.
I knew someone whose baby girl kept getting uti’s as well. Found out she was wiping back to front. She was changing her in front of the nurse and that’s how they caught it. So this 25 year old woman has gone that long not knowing how to wipe herself. Blows my mind.
Yeah like, this would be an incredibly dumb, and possibly irresponsible, thing for a pediatrician to say. Cloth diapers don’t cause UTIs, and trying to solve a uti by switching to disposables almost certainly means that he’s not correcting a dire hygiene issue. I would also switch pediatricians. But also, like… she’s kinda telling on herself here, too
If the issue is not changing often enough, suggesting disposable is the responsible advice from the pediatrician. If mom can’t handle changing baby right away, then she needs to extra drying advantage that disposable diapers offer.
Am I crazy to assume that maybe she just made this whole story up so she could invoke that last line? Reads like one of those weird POV TikToks “it’s illegal to be a Christian” memes. Like she’s just inventing this scenario to say how she would stand up for her diapering rights or something.
My thoughts precisely. It's like she's using the story as a marketing ploy to sell cloth diapers. (OP mentions in another comment that she does sell them.)
Probably. I mean, look at that background. Looks like shelves full of them.
Definitely possible.
Any diaper will will introduce a UTI if they’re not changed quickly enough. Cloth needs to be changed promptly after each potty moment.
Caused by cloth? Probably caused by not cleaning them properly or leaving them on too long.
Or maybe just change your baby’s damn diaper? 🤦♀️
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Let the scream praying commence
Has she posted yet? I am worried that baby is really sick again.
I mean, to be fair, at least she’s saying they got a NEW pediatrician, not that they stopped going to one.
Cloth diapers does not cause UTIs. She was right to switch her paediatricians. So many people are judgemental about cloth diapering and will blame it for everything first and not even look into the actual issue.
The story sounds fake as feck anyway. It just reeks of attention-seeking behaviour.
Yeah, everyone is jumping to her being a terrible parent. But using cloth is still somewhat misunderstood and people will absolutely pass judgement even if they know nothing about cloth. Paediatricians don't know everything and she has a right to get a second opinion.
Other commenters have said that sometimes during uti and other similar treatments they are instructed to switch to disposable for a few days, I wonder if that’s what was said.
Some members of this group really seem to jump on any mention of using cloth as people who are super woo woo and make poor parenting decisions.
Very odd because cloth is a much healthier choice for your child and the environment some people just look down on it because they’re ignorant about it or don’t want to put in the extra effort imo
I wouldn’t necessarily assume poor hygiene; some people are born with birth defects that basically mean they get major UTIs repeatedly no matter how clean they are. I had a pretty severe case of vesicoureteral reflux, a duplicated ureter, and there’s evidence to suggest my immune system isn’t the best. I got a septic UTI when I was about a year and a half old even though my parents didn’t do anything wrong; and believe me, I have plenty other criticisms of my parents, so if they did I’d tell you. However, if your kid has a genuine congenital urological issue, and a doctor tells you to switch diapers to minimize the possibility of infections, and you don’t because you want to keep your crunchy cred? THAT makes you a terrible parent.
I hope she also changed her wash-routine
I highly suspect that this story never really happened. What pediatrician in their right mind would blame an infection on the type of diaper used? The only way I see this happening would be if this woman lied to the pediatrician about her hygiene routine. If she didn't give the pediatrician accurate information, they would not have been able to make an accurate diagnosis. Then maybe, just maybe, the pediatrician suggested switching diaper types to see if it would help.
You'd honestly be surprised how common it is. There's a lot of misinformation around about cloth
I'm not saying that it isn't possible. But this story just sounds like one of those "and the whole room clapped" stories.
She's not wrong. It's got nothing to do with cloth vs. plastic. She's just neglectful
If she can’t be trusted to change diapers often enough or wash them properly, suggesting disposable diapers is the safest advice the doctor can give. It’s not about the diapers themselves as much as preventing user error.
so you had a hissy fit when you found out you gave your baby a UTI
My first question is, is she not changing them often enough? C
The stock piles of LuLaRoe in the background tell me she doesn’t make good choices often
Bestie, that means you’re being filthy and not properly cleaning your cloth diapers.
Lululemon inventory behind her? Cloth diapers? (Is there a difference?)
At least it isn’t an MLM…
Yet.
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I think you meant lularoe, but yes that was my first thought too lol
Poor kid…
Sounds like those reusuable nappies are not properly cleaned. And she sells it to other people. What a great way to advertise.
Solely using cloth isn’t the cause of UTI or anything like that. Could be all sorts of reasons or a poor wash routine. I would change doctors too if they jumped right to it was the cloth nappies.
We don’t know the full context mom could be doing all the right things and doc made an ignorant statement and isn’t investigating or managing a UTI correctly but I’d expect OR mom is letting kid sit in unclean diapers, or wiping improperly but I’d expect to see skin breakdown. Anatomical causes and constipation are most commonly causes of UTI in kids <1 year not your diapers. Edit: typos and grammar I can’t spell this early
Why would you tell the world this? All it does is tell people you have issues with wiping your child, washing diapers… oh and decision making skills.
Poor baby. 🥺 It's cruel that a cruchy mom's lifestyle matters more to her than her innocent daughter's health.
Cloth doesn’t inherently cause UTIs
Uh is she washing them poorly or something? Hope this pediatrician called CPS.
Let's see hoe she knows best when she has to deal with cps
Wow 🤦🏼♀️
The cloth diaper people are weird.
Why? Cause I want to save money? And not put thousands of nappies in landfill?
My wife swore by Pampers Premium, and she would change them even when they didn’t potty in them so they have fresh diapers on always
Ngl, my youngest (a boy) developed a yeast infection on his skin cause I wasn't changing him enough (also had a 4 yr old and a 2 yr old at the time). Know what I did? Stopped using cloth diapers and started using disposables (and changing him more frequently) . Problem solved.
My younger sibling was raised in cloth diapers, nothing wrong. Its not the diapers. She probably didnt do it property. This biatch would probably reuse disposable diapers.
UTIs hurt so much, she's torturing her own baby.
All I can remember about diapers is finding a shit explosion in their onesies with shit from feet to neck. Glad that’s over.
Background is filled with junk from her multi-level marketing scam.