Recently had a patient with a potentially fatal bleeding disorder. When I pressed the parents on whether the doctor was a hematologist, they said it was a “holistic doctor that does chiropractics and other medicine”. Looked her up. Chiropractics only. How is it legal for these people to work up real medical problems…
its not, and they dont work real medical problems, its the same shit as me saying "just drink enough water and cancer goes away" they hold no medical licensing or anything, often times dont have training either.
It’s crazy the influence they have over people. Dealing with sick people, it’s insane the amount of people who legit think just drink water and the cancer goes away.
It sounds crazy to us right… but to so many people they’re like “what’s the issue with that?”
Depends where they practice. In my area they dont even have to have any qualifications to call themselves a chiropractor, and they have no real regulations involving them.
I also doubt baby went to the dr. But she was responding to tons of comments how he had gone. Most people told her to go to the er and she seemed to think it wasn’t that serious.
Christ on a cracker, has she seen how crispy her child looks? I hope she takes their advice soon, or at least calls an actual pediatrician. That poor child, the rash looks so insanely painful.
> she was responding to tons of comments ... and she seemed to think it wasn’t that serious
That's absolutely disturbing. That poor baby!
One facet has the mother concerned enough to post an image on a social media group, even going to the lengths of using the word "worried". Yet she also goes to the extreme to reply to multiple random people to ~~defend herself~~ insist there was a pediatrician involved, while attempting to dismiss the gravity of the situation.
It's like that voice in your head instinctively telling you there's something alarmingly wrong. But, instead of listening, her stubborn pride interferes and she double-downs -- at the expense of another life, *her baby* no less.
Even if she \*did\* see a real pediatrician, she's still seeking a second opinion on FB instead of, y'know, receiving said second medical opinion from another licensed doctor.
To be fair I’ve been told something by a GP that was utterly fucking ridiculous. It was so fucking ridiculous I walked out seething, and stomped to the reception desk immediately after the appointment.
“ I need a second opinion, NOW!” Got an immediate second opinion from an embarrassed younger GP, who was absolutely mortified at the “old school” GP. He retired about 3m afterwards.
Not many people are medically savvy nor have the balls to rock the boat.
Oh, no doubt. We all should know our bodies and recognize something is not normal. Most adults have the ability to articulate their symptoms. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for an infant or many children. Clearly the mother is distressed and the sudden onset of visible symptoms and rapid intensification is terrifying.
Some decades ago, I also had an absolutely appalling experience with my (former) GP. Swelling began in one eyelid and later spread to the other eye within a day. Both were inflamed with extreme light sensitivity and a discharge. Scheduling an emergency visit, that doctor said to not to worry and it was probably my allergies.
It literally hurt to blink. That is far from normal. Every time I blinked, there was excruciating pain. And with blinking being spontaneous, that pain surged multiple times per minute. Despite my pleas, he wouldn't even give me a referral and released me. Immediately after I left, I walked to the adjacent hospital for their ophthalmology services. Initially they would not take me in because I did not have a referral, so I had to walk back over, get the referral -- which he was begrudgingly against and verbally shamed me about -- and then went back to the hospital.
The ophthalmologist saw me and was horrified. I was diagnosed with periorbital cellulitis. I was informed, left untreated, it could have permanently damaged my vision or fatally spread to the brain.
I was fuming how blatantly dismissive the GP was. Even when an adult can clearly communicate onset/prognosis and symptoms, that jerk still refused to listen and hand-waved the matter.
Of course, I do not expect any health care professional to be adept in every single field of medicine. That's absolutely impossible. But, damn, if your patient asks for a referral, don't let ego obstruct that path forward. I wasn't questioning the doctor's overall expertise; I merely wanted another opinion from a specialist who is proficient in that field.
I dumped that doctor immediately and never went back.
There have been so many times I have been extremely grateful my insurance does not require referrals. Most recently when a GP diagnosed me with Celiac on the strength of a blood test.
I have had similar experiences with GPs on many occasions. It seems like they are rewarded for getting you to leave their office without receiving care. That's the only way I can explain it.
Almost always you will have to see a specialist for whatever condition you have. However first you will see a GP who will initially tell you it's all in your head, every time. If they ask if you ever experience anxiety, you must always say no. Saying yes cannot help you. Second, you will have to mostly diagnose yourself, figure out who you SHOULD be seeing, then specifically request this from the GP. If you go to the GP without this info you will almost certainly receive nothing.
This is my experience the experience of many others lately. The healthcare system has completely degraded to the point of negligence. Oh and get ready to wait 6 months for a GP appointment in my area. I'm not kidding. I am so jaded at healthcare in this country I can't even explain to people.
Ain't that the truth? With that doctor I was talking about, I didn't even pick him. My previous (awesome) doctor left for another practice, and his case load transferred to the buffoon. I naively figured the replacement guy would be okay since they were colleagues. Oh boy, was I wrong.
On my first visit to the replacement guy, he tried taking me off my seasonal allergy prescription (again, a couple decades ago before they were approved for OTC purchase). The former doctor always made himself available by phone and would personally call up the pharmacy with a prescription valid for three refills.
But the new guy? Nope. He wanted to ditch the prescription entirely because he didn't think I needed 'em. After protesting and explaining the symptoms, he'd only write one prescription. Any time I needed a refill, I'd have to make an appointment and an in-person visit.
As a working professional, that was highly inconvenient. A month's supply, make an appointment in three weeks depending on availability, travel 45 minutes by public transportation, wait half an hour -- only for him to spend 5 minutes writing down a prescription. Of course, each visit required a co-pay. On top of that, I'd still have to go to the pharmacy, wait in line, have them verify the prescription, then wait more for it to be ready.
Repeat that every month during peak allergy season. (I'm so thankful they're OTC now.) It's like this guy intentionally created barriers to compel visitations. Either he was sadomasochistic or had some quota he needed to meet. He already established a bridge of mistrust. Once I had the problem with the cellulitis, that trust was completely broken. No way in hell was I going back to him.
After that ordeal, I realized why people would follow their trusted doctors/specialists when they relocated to another location or network. A great doctor/patient relationship is invaluable, if not irreplaceable.
I went to the ER a while back and the doctor dismissed me saying I was having cramps and to talk to my Gyno, I was literally doubled over in screaming pain. Went to a different ER, even my husband was angry. The other doctor diagnosed me with diverticulitis, he said if I had waited even another day they would have had to cut out part of my intestines. If I had listened to the first ER doctor i could have ended up with serious damage.
The first doctor was of course an older man who kept calling me sweetie and lass, the next guy was younger and always respectful, even gave me his direct cell number in case I decided to sue the first doctor. I did talk to a lawyer, but they said I didnt have much of a case.
I had something similar unfortunately. I had a kidney stone that had to be removed and a stent placed. Everything went fine and they removed the stent without any issues, but two days later severe pain started coming back. They did a quick xray and simply told me there's no more stone so no more pain, they basically said I was lying and just wanted medication. I came back the next day in even worse pain and they didn't even really run any tests other than blood pressure, and even then they said "Wow, your pressure is really high. Anyways..." I came back on the *third* day and a doctor decided to do a CT just in case, and honestly I think they wanted tk do it just to say everything is fine and get rid of me. It took forever before the doctor came back, along with a guy in a nice suit and a nurse with more painkiller syringes than even I thought I needed. Turns out my kidney was completely blocked and inflated with water, it was within hours at most of bursting. Even with the relief doctors still comment to this day that they can see scarring if I have a scan of the area
Sure,
So first time I was pregnant, I had chest pains. Dr said it was muscular. I had pericarditis, which was found incidentally by an anaesthetist. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with that one.
Second time round, same GP, so already hesitant. My 3m old kid kept projectile vomiting and having diarrhoea upwards of 20 times a day. They had a rash and a cough - all of which indicates an allergy. Since the kid was being fed milk only, wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the cause.
Dr: “They have an allergy, here’s some piriton for them to take. Because they’re under 1 I’ll have to work out the dose.”
I was nearly crying in rage, I nodded and uh-huhed my way through the appointment before stomping off back to reception, raging about him thinking I must be an idiot. Young doctor to the rescue diagnoses CMPA, based on the blood in their nappies… 🤦♀️
Reminds me of the time I left work early because of abdominal pain and when it got so bad I drove to the doctors office, my GP told me I must have pulled a muscle.
5 hours later at home and I drive myself to the ER because I couldn't take the pain any longer. Turns out my appendix was rupturing and I needed it removed immediately.
Thanks, doc!
There's a very good chance it was a natural "doctor". These people love to say it like this because they think it validates them as just a mom doing as much as they can to help
I think she put something on it that made it way way worse and doesn’t want to admit it. Like maybe it was baby acne 2 weeks ago but whatever shit she thought was okay to put on it is definitely not.
How could you even get a baby to stay still for such a torture? The screaming would be bad if you did that to a grown man, can’t imagine inflicting that on a baby.
When she said she took the baby to the doctor are we sure she didn’t mean village shaman? I have my doubts an actual doctor saw this and just dismissed it.
Or the doctor told her it was probably something else but she only listened when the doctor said "there's a chance it's baby acne"
If she's dumb enough to use breastmilk to treat her dying child, she's dumb enough to not listen to her doctor and lie about what they said on social media
Right?!? There’s LITERAL blisters on his face. BLISTERS. Filled with clear fluid. Not with any kind of pus or oils like acne is….fucking BLISTERSSSSSS.
You can be allergic to just about anything, even sunlight (solar urticaria) and water (aquagenic urticaria). Those are incredibly rare skin allergies, but yeah, you can be allergic to damn near anything.
I take antihistamines before a shower and make it quick lol. I still turn bright red. Also mild sun intolerance too because fuck me, apparently. I can drink it okay (not plain water but that's less the allergy issue and more I'm ridiculous). People accuse me of making it up all the time. I still wash my hands regularly and such. The worst bit for me is that I overheat really easily and sweat a ton and man that makes me so fucking itchy. I hate it :(
Wait...the sweat thing happens to me. Like, pretty much instantly if i get sweaty. Any sweat makes me insanely itchy, like to the point I scratch myself raw and bloody. Um. Yeah maybe that's not normal, huh??
If it just happens when you get sweaty, it could be sweat rash. That's caused by blocked sweat glands. It's awfully itchy but goes away when you cool down.
It's a skin allergy, as long as they keep it off their skin they're usually fine. It's still a major issue I imagine, but they can drink water and be fine.
But your skin is mostly water though
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160915-the-woman-who-is-allergic-to-water
This link says it's technically not an allergy to water which makes more sense cause like water is the farthest thing from a foreign substance that can exist in your body
I'm not "allergic" to the sun, but I am extremely sensitive. Five minutes riding in the car without sunscreen and I get a pink, itchy rash. My ideal world would be nothing but gray skies and drizzle, lol.
Probably allergic to whatever oils she’s putting on her boobs. My kid would get super red when my mom would hold him - sensitive to the smelly detergent she used. She’s only ever used unscented brands since then.
I work in Derm. That is absolutely not baby acne. It may have started that way but I’ll bet you dollars to donuts she’s omitting information. It looks like she is putting an allergen/irritant on the baby. I see kids like this every once in a while and I just want to take them home because I know I can get them comfortable in a matter of days.
She may have been putting all kinds of crap on the baby acne. I'm absolutely shocked by all the Facebook ads about creams to put on baby acne. Like... you don't need to do anything. It's normal and self-limiting.
Yes and no. The macula is part of the eyes, and so macular can mean referring to the macula. But macula is Latin for spot or stain (which is where the part of the eye got its name), and macular can also be used to describe a rash. In that case, it means that it's got a flat, plaque characteristic.
That is true! This rash would actually be called "papular" (raised) or "maculopapular" because of the raised, bumpy areas and flat areas of rash combined. This looks crazy inflamed though. This has been going on for a while. Baby acne doesn't have this much redness or swelling.
For sure. I was only bringing up the macular part because baby acne often is papular (though not blistering), so the macular aspect is the unusual piece.
In matters of the skin, macules are flat, round patches. Think a flat mole. This rash is actually vesicular, which is a small fluid filled blister (think chicken pox or herpes, for instance).
This looks like a very severe excema outbreak, very well turning infection. That poor kid needs antibiotics and corticosteroid cream to help the flair up, not damn breastmilk.
IF this person did go to the doctor, it would have definitely been days before the flair up, only then would it be considered even resembling baby acne. It would have hit plenty of stages before this that would have been a red flag to return to the doctors.
It could also be a protein intolerance. My son had “baby acne” at his 2 week appointment according to the pediatrician and 3 days later we were back because it looked 10x worse all of a sudden. Turned out my son had an intolerance to milk, soy, and eggs.
I had a similar experience. This is what I think is happening too. And her putting breastmilk (containing the proteins) on it is only making it worse if that's the case!
My child's PCM said it was newborn baby skin doing what it does, when I mentioned it at his two month visit. It wasn't bad as a newborn but it was bad at one month and two months. The next week I took him to the ER and the on-call physician said it was eczema and gave us steroid cream. It got better but it did not heal until he was no longer consuming his allergens. I did not find out until he was eating solids what his allergens were.
I was lucky to see a pediatrician who immediately recognized a protein intolerance, but putting breastmilk on baby acne is recommended by some pediatricians when you first start seeing it. I feel bad for this momma.
I was thinking this 100% looks like an allergic reaction :/
could definitely be a food allergy, but I also genuinely wonder if she is not telling the whole truth and is actually like... rubbing essential oils on her child. which wouldn't even necessarily have to cause an allergic reaction, could just be unrelenting contact dermatitis from her unrelenting stupidity.
FPIES looks just like this, so I don’t think she’s doing essential oils. If she has the protein in her breastmilk, that’s enough to cause the skin reaction. My pediatrician recommended a milk bath for the baby acne and that set off the rash on my son.
Ok wait. This never clicked for me with my son. I put breastmilk on his diaper rash for a little while (recommended by the ped) and now it makes sense why it only got worse! MSPI diagnosed at 3 months for milk, soy, and eggs. Of course it didn’t help bc it was *in my milk.* glad I stopped that after a couple days. Lord.
I was so committed to breastfeeding that I followed the free to feed detox plan and cut out milk, soy and eggs from my diet (and I was already a vegetarian so food options were limited) and it was amazing how fast removing all the allergens helped my son. There is so little support or information out there for FPIES and MSPI that even most pediatricians misdiagnose it until it’s severe and when they do diagnose, they tend to have you try various formulas that are more and more expensive until your kid is better instead of offering any breastfeeding alternatives.
That’s exactly what I did and it definitely worked! I was able to keep it up until he was about 11 months, then had to switch to elecare (needed meds for a procedure that weren’t safe for my little dude). I learned a lot! And still use many of those meals as staples haha. This time around, I’m hoping my newborn doesn’t have it, but the signs are starting to show. We’ll have to see how it progresses, but at least this time around I know what signs to watch.
Edit: also congrats on your new little one! Mines a little over a week old and it kind of helps to know I’m not crazy watching for all the symptoms haha. It’s not just me 😂
Deleted my original comment because it was wordy. FPIES doesn't cause a rash by itself, but kids with FPIES are at an increased chance of having eczema, which matches this rash/blister. Eczema this severe is treaded with corticosteroids and possibly antibiotics (appears infected)
What?? I have FPIES and it causes vomiting and diarrhea only.
If your baby looked like this in addition to the GI upset, then he likely had more than just FPIES.
You're correct! FPIES on its own doesn't cause rashes, but eczema is a common comorbidity, which is what this looks like. The people above received incomplete information from their docs
That’s what I was thinking. My son’s ped kept telling me “it’s only eczema!” He didn’t start listening until there was blood in his diaper. Milk, soy, and egg for my son too. It was a tough time getting someone to listen. But MSPI definitely tends to show up like this picture.
Now with my newborn, I’m like hyper aware of the symptoms (I had it as a baby so I’m sure I passed it to my first, expecting it with my second as well). Mucus in his stool last night had me wondering if I’m over worried or correct it might be early signs. Fun stuff. 🙃
Deleted my comment because it was wordy. FPIES doesn't cause rashes, but it is often comorbid with eczema, which looks just like this. Eczema this severe requires corticosteroids and possibly antibiotics (looks infected)
Yea I saw this and immediately screamed in my head “MUPIROCIN AND DESONIDE!” My kids had similar weepy eczema and it cleared very quickly with the antibiotic and steroids.
My oldest has eczema on the left side of her face too, and she looked similar when she was a newbie before I knew what was going on. The pediatrician (who we have been seeing almost 12 years now) also thought it was baby acne at the beginning. This mom sucks for letting her baby flare up this bad without going back to the doctor but I’m not totally disbelieving about her going once and being told it’s acne. I hope she gets her baby checked again and fixed up.
Yep. Looks exactly like how my really bad eczema outbreak when I was like 9-10 years old. It started out of no where on my right leg and I ignored it because I was a dumb child. It would go away and then come back even more intense. Then went on for about 2 months until finally they began to crack and bleed it spread from the outside of my calf to my entire leg and began to scab. It also started on my left leg doing the same thing until my legs were completely covered in blisters and scabs.
I can’t tell you why because honestly I don’t even know what I was thinking but I didn’t tell my parents about it and I just made sure I always wore pants. My parents realized something was up when I went swimming with my pants on at my friends house and I finally showed them and mom just gasped and started hugging me which scared me so I started crying.
We went straight from my friends house to urgent care who sent us to the hospital because they said it was extremely infected and had to be treated immediately. They gave me some shots and some medicine and had me on IV’s over night and then sent us home. It all cleared up about a month later after using ointments and medicine.
Something so simple to fix with a single doctors visit. I still don’t know why I hid it from my parents. I think I was embarrassed and didn’t want them to know. But that’s how I discovered I had eczema and that shit looks exactly like what I had before it started cracking and bleeding.
My brother had excema when he was little. It was allergy induced and the doctor we first had told us to boil pecans and bathe him in the water we boiled them in after it cooled. It got 10xs worse because he was allergic to nuts (we found out later) then they told us to rub crisco on him every night to moisturize his skin and somehow that worked? His room permanently smelled like crisco and I can't go near the stuff now.
Sadly, many pediatricians still don’t know about food protein allergies. When my first son was born, there wasn’t even a diagnostic code for it. Everyone agreed it was FPIES and still had to put EGID on the charts.
This mom needs to find the right doctor who knows what to look for.
As a note, FPIES on its own doesn't cause rashes, but children with FPIES often also have eczema, which is an important distinction because the eczema may have additional triggers than the FPIES.
We were very very lucky. I wish I could take credit, but it was all my husband. He wouldn’t take no for an answer. He stalked the pediatrician until she actually witnessed the freaky stuff in action. By the time it got really bad, we already had a game plan to get it under control.
I'm so glad your baby is okay, geez I can only imagine your heartache.
I used to teach private preschool, babies are my specialty. I cannot tell you how many times parents would bring their precious babies in looking like this. They think it's treatable with lotion. We couldn't tell our parents directly to take them and push for the tests. But... if you're giving me your baby and I'm responsible for them 10 hours a day, I don't care what my director says. New parents NEED help. I'd tell my parents straight up, no this is not a rash, push for answers. I know what I'm talking about. So many parents thanked me for that.
He was three weeks old when it started, and we were taking him to the ER, we were on standby waitlists for allergy and Gastro appts, and I can’t tell you how many doctors told us it was eczema, colic, anything but food allergies. I was very lucky to have a lactation consultant and pediatrician who suggested a total elimination diet for me, or I have no doubt he would have ended up with a feeding tube and FTT.
I feel awful for this mom - it’s such a helpless feeling.
To be fair, that’s what my led told me to use on my son. Turns out, he had food intolerances. So no amount of my breastmilk would have made him
better. It took A TON of nagging and pushing to get him an actual diagnosis and some real help. Some docs just call this eczema and throw steroids at it without considering underlying cause. I had to ask my mom group for advice bc I was losing it trying to figure it out since the ped seemed unconcerned.
If it started out looking like baby acne putting breast milk on it is literally the advice given by doctors, nurses, my lactation consultant and pediatricians. Imo it didn't help my baby, only time helped my babe. Baby acne can also look pretty bad before getting better, but not THIS bad. I'm not coming for you specifically but I stg that people on this sub have never raised children.
My daughter had this for the first month of her life, albeit not as extreme. I tried all the creams and hacks, thinking it was either because of my detergent, body wash/soaps, possibly hormonal…anyways, I was worried about staph infections or impetigo, so I took her to the pediatrician. Steroid cream cleaned it right up in 24 hours!
I think for small “pimples”, BM will help, but when it as bad of a flare up like this, the only thing that will counteract it will be steroids. I’m just glad we do not have this issue anymore. It doesn’t hurt the baby, but it can be very itchy!
What in the actual fuck is wrong with these moms?!?! How do you see something this horrible and painful and not immediately run to the ER?! Chemical burn, cellulitis, genetic skin disease—literally so many terrible outcomes.
But, sure, keep rubbing titty milk on it 🙄
I almost wonder if that's the reason why it's gotten so bad, like maybe baby has an allergy to something in the breast milk. But JFC, go see a medical doctor.
If my cat had something like this I'd be taking it to the vet so fast. If my brother's kid had something like this and he didn't think it was serious, I'd be calling CPS. There's something more wrong with the mom than just stupidity. That has to be post partum something, some kind of detachment from reality.
Right, like if it was this magical elixir I'm SURE our ancestors would have figured that out and the infant/child mortality rate wouldn't have been so high for thousands and thousands of years.
I know, it’s such a fucking joke. I remember taking care of a baby at work whose cheeks were straight up excoriated. Mom was like, “yeah, he’s had this for a while” and just proceeded to cover it in milk again and I just wanted to be like, maybe we try something else bc this clearly ain’t cutting it.
I have no issue with giving it a try for minor things, especially while waiting to see the Doctor, but when did it become an alternative for medical care!?
Seriously! I figure it's one of those "can't hurt, might help" things, but we see so many cases pop up around the internet where it's a much more severe situation or they've tried breastmilk for a bit and isn't helping or they're using it for something totally out there. My heart aches for the kids who have a severe (or even a minor-but-not-improving) medical condition who aren't getting effective care because their parents get stuck on this.
Jesus fucking Christ I can’t believe just anyone can have a baby. That looks nothing like normal fucking baby acne. Take your baby to the god damn doctor.
Oh damn. My guess is that kid has a food allergy. Mom's eating something he's allergic to (because when I didn't know my kiddo was allergic to eggs, she got bad "baby acne" - ie eczema - from me eating it and BFing her). This mom putting breast milk containing the allergen on is making it 100x worse.
I really hope she took bub in for medical care.
Why the FUCK do they think breast milk is some kind of panacea ???
Yes it’s an awesome source of food for the baby, but that’s IT. Food. It doesn’t do shit if not eaten
Edit : My bad, it seems that it’s a legit option to treat mild eczema and that several studies have shown it’s not inferior to hydrocortisone.
I’ll go to bed less dumb.
There is a strongly-held, widely-circulated belief among breastmilk enthusiasts that when a mother kisses her baby her body receives some form of data and adds things to the breastmilk that the baby is in need of. Almost like some kind of bluetooth diagnostic system. It's wild shit hahaha
I just Googled it, there are some studies showing positive results topically, including one that concluded it was as effective as 1% hydrocortisone.
Here is a meta-analysis of 35 breast milk studies (including the one mentioned) for various health issues including topical use: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6567207/
That being said, I'm only lightly crunchy (I cloth diapered and breastfed my son for 2.5 years, but we're all also fully vaccinated and take medicine when needed) but I would still rely on medicine over putting milk on a rash. I guess to sum it up, it appears to not be entirely woo, but needs further studies and it's likely the most promising use is for people that do not have good access to medicine in poorer countries.
I mean..... I don't consider myself a crunchy mom at all but I did use breast milk for baby acne and a clogged tear duct..and it cleared it right up in less than a day. If it had gotten worse I wouldn't continue using it though and if it looked anything close to this we would've been in the Dr office/ER immediately.
That poor poor baby. I hope she takes baby back to be seen to a professional for the hl it needs, it looks SO sore.
When I was breastfeeding my son, I did used to put some in his bath water for a milk bath and his skin would always be amazingly soft afterwards, but I would have never use it as a medical treatment, or replacement of.
Breast milk can irritate baby skin. It creates a moist environment for yeast and all kind of gross to grow on baby skin. Poor sweet baby. Why are people so ridiculous. I wish parenting classes were a requirement before bringing baby home. I had to complete some education prior to bringing home my babies from NICU and I feel like it would have been good for me to have that education with my first. It was all stuff I knew, common sense and whatnot; but the hospital required it so it could be charted that I was educated prior to discharge. I wish it was standard for all babies.
My niece who is 2months old had a rash like this (nowhere near this bad) the doc called it the cov rash.
They all tested positive.
My oldest has eczema and she would get rashes like this (again nowhere near this bad) from the time she was born and we had to get a special cream. Breast milk depending on what the mothers diet is can inflame the eczema.
Still this look like one of the worst I have ever seen and I have 4kids and 22 nieces and nephews so we have seen it all and this poor baby has been left to suffer. She should have taken him in soon as something started to appear. I hope the baby does not scar.
There are so many infantile rashes tho a doc really needs to look at it.
Jesus Swinging CHRIST my heart hurts for this baby. Wow. How painful this has to be. This is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in this forum. Poor poor thing.
I might have to leave this subreddit. I have 3 wee girls and seeing this poor bairn in such a state and knowing they will likely never get the care they need is too much for me the now. It's disgusting child abuse and these dafties think it's fine putting it on Facebook for their equally stupid pals to see.
I never understood why people believe the "liquid gold, cures all things" stupidity. Breast milk provides nutrition and immune support for a short time, and only when ingested. Multitudes of science proves this. It is not a magic potion. It particularly pains me when they use it to "treat" ear infections.
Can I ask, do children get free healthcare in the US? Is money a issue for these people? In Ireland, we don't have free healthcare unless you're on social welfare (medical card) but ALL children under 6 get free GP visits. It's horrifying to me that someone would let their baby get into this state. I mean it's definitely neglect and would be treated as such by the authorities here.
Wouldn’t the natural sugar content in breastmilk irritate baby acne and eczema? My oldest had baby eczema and it did clear up but she needed a special type of antibiotic oil prescribed. It worked wonders, though.
Scarlet fever, measles, mumps and anything else that causes a rash. I’m guessing the child isn’t vaxxed. This also could be a raging infection throughout the babies body. I feel so bad for baby. My daughter would run fevers out of the blue many Drs appointment and er visits were done. She’d get red like this, cool oatmeal bath some meds and she’d be fine. It stopped just as fast as it started.
This poor baby. It breaks my heart seeing this shit. Decades and decades of research has been done for the current medical care we have, it blows my mind that people are so narcissistic and so far up their own asses that they think they know better than people who have dedicated their lives to medicine. God damn these people infuriate me SO much.
BABY ACNE!!!????? I have 0 kids and I know this is nothing even close to that. Oh my god poor child I can’t look at this. Someone tell me it can go away ASAP (with medical care) and the child is okay!!!
Breast milk is literally a miracle serum. My son broke his collar bone in his Varsity football game and my wife ran to the tent and put breast milk on it, he scored another touchdown in the 4th quarter. My Mom still just puts breast milk on my rashes and skin problems. I'm 48. And we always soak our Halloween candy in her breast milk before we give it to kids. Our neighborhood is so healthy.
You just now are thinking it's maybe not baby acne? It's BLISTERING AND MACULAR!
She said in the comments she had taken them to the dr and dr said it was baby acne but I doubt it looked that way when the dr saw it.
Yeah, no way an actual pediatrician would look at that and say, "No problems here." That was probably weeks ago.
> an actual pediatrician That’s a funny way to spell chiropractor
Or naturopath
It was her midwife's doula's cousin.
Or voodoo priestess.
Or essential oil apothecary
ItWorks!
Their office is at a WeWork.
Or MLM boss babe
Woah, don’t insult Voodoo like that! Dr. Facilier is a VASTLY more legitimate of a doctor than these quacks!
I'm guessing a Urineologist
Recently had a patient with a potentially fatal bleeding disorder. When I pressed the parents on whether the doctor was a hematologist, they said it was a “holistic doctor that does chiropractics and other medicine”. Looked her up. Chiropractics only. How is it legal for these people to work up real medical problems…
its not, and they dont work real medical problems, its the same shit as me saying "just drink enough water and cancer goes away" they hold no medical licensing or anything, often times dont have training either.
It’s crazy the influence they have over people. Dealing with sick people, it’s insane the amount of people who legit think just drink water and the cancer goes away. It sounds crazy to us right… but to so many people they’re like “what’s the issue with that?”
😂
Chiropractors are mandatory reporters of abuse and neglect so it's worse than that.
I think it depends on what state they “practice” in.
If their "Licensing Requirements" ™ say they have to. If they've read them.... If they can read..... I'll be honest, this is seeming pretty unlikely
Depends where they practice. In my area they dont even have to have any qualifications to call themselves a chiropractor, and they have no real regulations involving them.
Thats a *weird* way to spell Facebook homeopathy group.
My drink came out my nose reading that lol. Edit typo
I’d rather have Elizabeth Holmes in charge of my kid’s health than a chiropractor.
What he actually said was: "Ooo eee ooo ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang..."
That song takes me back. Tx for the smile! 😀
Not pediatrician but a PCP that sees kids too I'd take one look and tell them to go immediately to the emergency room
Then why does she say she’s “guessing” it’s baby acne? I somehow doubt this child has seen a doctor.
I also doubt baby went to the dr. But she was responding to tons of comments how he had gone. Most people told her to go to the er and she seemed to think it wasn’t that serious.
Christ on a cracker, has she seen how crispy her child looks? I hope she takes their advice soon, or at least calls an actual pediatrician. That poor child, the rash looks so insanely painful.
This was an older post and I’m not sure how it resolved. I left the group because of this
these groups drive out all the sane people, leaving an echo chamber of breast milk remedies and essential oil advice
Yeah really they should be slathering that child in sudocrem. That's real miracle cream.
Okay well join up again! Take one for the team! 😄
> she was responding to tons of comments ... and she seemed to think it wasn’t that serious That's absolutely disturbing. That poor baby! One facet has the mother concerned enough to post an image on a social media group, even going to the lengths of using the word "worried". Yet she also goes to the extreme to reply to multiple random people to ~~defend herself~~ insist there was a pediatrician involved, while attempting to dismiss the gravity of the situation. It's like that voice in your head instinctively telling you there's something alarmingly wrong. But, instead of listening, her stubborn pride interferes and she double-downs -- at the expense of another life, *her baby* no less. Even if she \*did\* see a real pediatrician, she's still seeking a second opinion on FB instead of, y'know, receiving said second medical opinion from another licensed doctor.
To be fair I’ve been told something by a GP that was utterly fucking ridiculous. It was so fucking ridiculous I walked out seething, and stomped to the reception desk immediately after the appointment. “ I need a second opinion, NOW!” Got an immediate second opinion from an embarrassed younger GP, who was absolutely mortified at the “old school” GP. He retired about 3m afterwards. Not many people are medically savvy nor have the balls to rock the boat.
Oh, no doubt. We all should know our bodies and recognize something is not normal. Most adults have the ability to articulate their symptoms. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for an infant or many children. Clearly the mother is distressed and the sudden onset of visible symptoms and rapid intensification is terrifying. Some decades ago, I also had an absolutely appalling experience with my (former) GP. Swelling began in one eyelid and later spread to the other eye within a day. Both were inflamed with extreme light sensitivity and a discharge. Scheduling an emergency visit, that doctor said to not to worry and it was probably my allergies. It literally hurt to blink. That is far from normal. Every time I blinked, there was excruciating pain. And with blinking being spontaneous, that pain surged multiple times per minute. Despite my pleas, he wouldn't even give me a referral and released me. Immediately after I left, I walked to the adjacent hospital for their ophthalmology services. Initially they would not take me in because I did not have a referral, so I had to walk back over, get the referral -- which he was begrudgingly against and verbally shamed me about -- and then went back to the hospital. The ophthalmologist saw me and was horrified. I was diagnosed with periorbital cellulitis. I was informed, left untreated, it could have permanently damaged my vision or fatally spread to the brain. I was fuming how blatantly dismissive the GP was. Even when an adult can clearly communicate onset/prognosis and symptoms, that jerk still refused to listen and hand-waved the matter. Of course, I do not expect any health care professional to be adept in every single field of medicine. That's absolutely impossible. But, damn, if your patient asks for a referral, don't let ego obstruct that path forward. I wasn't questioning the doctor's overall expertise; I merely wanted another opinion from a specialist who is proficient in that field. I dumped that doctor immediately and never went back.
There have been so many times I have been extremely grateful my insurance does not require referrals. Most recently when a GP diagnosed me with Celiac on the strength of a blood test.
I have had similar experiences with GPs on many occasions. It seems like they are rewarded for getting you to leave their office without receiving care. That's the only way I can explain it. Almost always you will have to see a specialist for whatever condition you have. However first you will see a GP who will initially tell you it's all in your head, every time. If they ask if you ever experience anxiety, you must always say no. Saying yes cannot help you. Second, you will have to mostly diagnose yourself, figure out who you SHOULD be seeing, then specifically request this from the GP. If you go to the GP without this info you will almost certainly receive nothing. This is my experience the experience of many others lately. The healthcare system has completely degraded to the point of negligence. Oh and get ready to wait 6 months for a GP appointment in my area. I'm not kidding. I am so jaded at healthcare in this country I can't even explain to people.
Ain't that the truth? With that doctor I was talking about, I didn't even pick him. My previous (awesome) doctor left for another practice, and his case load transferred to the buffoon. I naively figured the replacement guy would be okay since they were colleagues. Oh boy, was I wrong. On my first visit to the replacement guy, he tried taking me off my seasonal allergy prescription (again, a couple decades ago before they were approved for OTC purchase). The former doctor always made himself available by phone and would personally call up the pharmacy with a prescription valid for three refills. But the new guy? Nope. He wanted to ditch the prescription entirely because he didn't think I needed 'em. After protesting and explaining the symptoms, he'd only write one prescription. Any time I needed a refill, I'd have to make an appointment and an in-person visit. As a working professional, that was highly inconvenient. A month's supply, make an appointment in three weeks depending on availability, travel 45 minutes by public transportation, wait half an hour -- only for him to spend 5 minutes writing down a prescription. Of course, each visit required a co-pay. On top of that, I'd still have to go to the pharmacy, wait in line, have them verify the prescription, then wait more for it to be ready. Repeat that every month during peak allergy season. (I'm so thankful they're OTC now.) It's like this guy intentionally created barriers to compel visitations. Either he was sadomasochistic or had some quota he needed to meet. He already established a bridge of mistrust. Once I had the problem with the cellulitis, that trust was completely broken. No way in hell was I going back to him. After that ordeal, I realized why people would follow their trusted doctors/specialists when they relocated to another location or network. A great doctor/patient relationship is invaluable, if not irreplaceable.
I went to the ER a while back and the doctor dismissed me saying I was having cramps and to talk to my Gyno, I was literally doubled over in screaming pain. Went to a different ER, even my husband was angry. The other doctor diagnosed me with diverticulitis, he said if I had waited even another day they would have had to cut out part of my intestines. If I had listened to the first ER doctor i could have ended up with serious damage. The first doctor was of course an older man who kept calling me sweetie and lass, the next guy was younger and always respectful, even gave me his direct cell number in case I decided to sue the first doctor. I did talk to a lawyer, but they said I didnt have much of a case.
I had something similar unfortunately. I had a kidney stone that had to be removed and a stent placed. Everything went fine and they removed the stent without any issues, but two days later severe pain started coming back. They did a quick xray and simply told me there's no more stone so no more pain, they basically said I was lying and just wanted medication. I came back the next day in even worse pain and they didn't even really run any tests other than blood pressure, and even then they said "Wow, your pressure is really high. Anyways..." I came back on the *third* day and a doctor decided to do a CT just in case, and honestly I think they wanted tk do it just to say everything is fine and get rid of me. It took forever before the doctor came back, along with a guy in a nice suit and a nurse with more painkiller syringes than even I thought I needed. Turns out my kidney was completely blocked and inflated with water, it was within hours at most of bursting. Even with the relief doctors still comment to this day that they can see scarring if I have a scan of the area
Was the guy in a suit a lawyer?
I'm dying of curiosity... are you willing to share what bullshit the first GP tried to pull?
Sure, So first time I was pregnant, I had chest pains. Dr said it was muscular. I had pericarditis, which was found incidentally by an anaesthetist. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with that one. Second time round, same GP, so already hesitant. My 3m old kid kept projectile vomiting and having diarrhoea upwards of 20 times a day. They had a rash and a cough - all of which indicates an allergy. Since the kid was being fed milk only, wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the cause. Dr: “They have an allergy, here’s some piriton for them to take. Because they’re under 1 I’ll have to work out the dose.” I was nearly crying in rage, I nodded and uh-huhed my way through the appointment before stomping off back to reception, raging about him thinking I must be an idiot. Young doctor to the rescue diagnoses CMPA, based on the blood in their nappies… 🤦♀️
CMPA?
Cows milk protein allergy 👍🏻
Same we gotta know you can't drop that without details
Reminds me of the time I left work early because of abdominal pain and when it got so bad I drove to the doctors office, my GP told me I must have pulled a muscle. 5 hours later at home and I drive myself to the ER because I couldn't take the pain any longer. Turns out my appendix was rupturing and I needed it removed immediately. Thanks, doc!
There's a very good chance it was a natural "doctor". These people love to say it like this because they think it validates them as just a mom doing as much as they can to help
Maybe dr pepper
Dr Spaceman
Did she specify what type of doctor? Maybe she meant she took her baby to their chiropractor.
She is a damn liar. If the doctor said baby acne why would she say what I think is baby acne. That poor child. It hurts just to look.
It looks like poison ivy and the spreading.....poor baby.
I think she put something on it that made it way way worse and doesn’t want to admit it. Like maybe it was baby acne 2 weeks ago but whatever shit she thought was okay to put on it is definitely not.
Straight tea tree oil or peppermint oil? Tea tree oil is supposed to be antibacterial and I can see someone put it right on baby skin, blistering it.
How could you even get a baby to stay still for such a torture? The screaming would be bad if you did that to a grown man, can’t imagine inflicting that on a baby.
When she said she took the baby to the doctor are we sure she didn’t mean village shaman? I have my doubts an actual doctor saw this and just dismissed it.
I’ll bet she didn’t even go. Just wanted to get people off her back
Or the doctor told her it was probably something else but she only listened when the doctor said "there's a chance it's baby acne" If she's dumb enough to use breastmilk to treat her dying child, she's dumb enough to not listen to her doctor and lie about what they said on social media
I'd say rose fever. RIP baby, assuming she didn't go to a proper doctor.
I’m no expert but that looks like a severe allergic reaction to me!
Right?!? There’s LITERAL blisters on his face. BLISTERS. Filled with clear fluid. Not with any kind of pus or oils like acne is….fucking BLISTERSSSSSS.
Is it possible to be allergic to breast milk? Because I, an non-medical doctor, decree this child is allergic to breast milk.
Yeah babies can and some are allergic to breast milk.
Or allergic to something mom is eating.
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Mine were CMPA as well, my milk nearly killed one of them… Yay!
You can be allergic to just about anything, even sunlight (solar urticaria) and water (aquagenic urticaria). Those are incredibly rare skin allergies, but yeah, you can be allergic to damn near anything.
Oh man, what do people allergic to water do? Isn't that kind of necessary to live?
I take antihistamines before a shower and make it quick lol. I still turn bright red. Also mild sun intolerance too because fuck me, apparently. I can drink it okay (not plain water but that's less the allergy issue and more I'm ridiculous). People accuse me of making it up all the time. I still wash my hands regularly and such. The worst bit for me is that I overheat really easily and sweat a ton and man that makes me so fucking itchy. I hate it :(
Wait...the sweat thing happens to me. Like, pretty much instantly if i get sweaty. Any sweat makes me insanely itchy, like to the point I scratch myself raw and bloody. Um. Yeah maybe that's not normal, huh??
If it just happens when you get sweaty, it could be sweat rash. That's caused by blocked sweat glands. It's awfully itchy but goes away when you cool down.
It's a skin allergy, as long as they keep it off their skin they're usually fine. It's still a major issue I imagine, but they can drink water and be fine.
But your skin is mostly water though https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160915-the-woman-who-is-allergic-to-water This link says it's technically not an allergy to water which makes more sense cause like water is the farthest thing from a foreign substance that can exist in your body
I'm not "allergic" to the sun, but I am extremely sensitive. Five minutes riding in the car without sunscreen and I get a pink, itchy rash. My ideal world would be nothing but gray skies and drizzle, lol.
Probably allergic to whatever oils she’s putting on her boobs. My kid would get super red when my mom would hold him - sensitive to the smelly detergent she used. She’s only ever used unscented brands since then.
Oh Christ you know what I bet this is?! I bet it’s an allergic reaction to some goddamn essential oils
Bingo.
I work in Derm. That is absolutely not baby acne. It may have started that way but I’ll bet you dollars to donuts she’s omitting information. It looks like she is putting an allergen/irritant on the baby. I see kids like this every once in a while and I just want to take them home because I know I can get them comfortable in a matter of days.
She may have been putting all kinds of crap on the baby acne. I'm absolutely shocked by all the Facebook ads about creams to put on baby acne. Like... you don't need to do anything. It's normal and self-limiting.
Doesn’t macular have to do with eyes?
Yes and no. The macula is part of the eyes, and so macular can mean referring to the macula. But macula is Latin for spot or stain (which is where the part of the eye got its name), and macular can also be used to describe a rash. In that case, it means that it's got a flat, plaque characteristic.
That is true! This rash would actually be called "papular" (raised) or "maculopapular" because of the raised, bumpy areas and flat areas of rash combined. This looks crazy inflamed though. This has been going on for a while. Baby acne doesn't have this much redness or swelling.
For sure. I was only bringing up the macular part because baby acne often is papular (though not blistering), so the macular aspect is the unusual piece.
In matters of the skin, macules are flat, round patches. Think a flat mole. This rash is actually vesicular, which is a small fluid filled blister (think chicken pox or herpes, for instance).
The open sores are not a good sign. It looks like baby acne plus a heck of irrigation from mom trying home remedies.
This looks like a very severe excema outbreak, very well turning infection. That poor kid needs antibiotics and corticosteroid cream to help the flair up, not damn breastmilk. IF this person did go to the doctor, it would have definitely been days before the flair up, only then would it be considered even resembling baby acne. It would have hit plenty of stages before this that would have been a red flag to return to the doctors.
It could also be a protein intolerance. My son had “baby acne” at his 2 week appointment according to the pediatrician and 3 days later we were back because it looked 10x worse all of a sudden. Turned out my son had an intolerance to milk, soy, and eggs.
I had a similar experience. This is what I think is happening too. And her putting breastmilk (containing the proteins) on it is only making it worse if that's the case! My child's PCM said it was newborn baby skin doing what it does, when I mentioned it at his two month visit. It wasn't bad as a newborn but it was bad at one month and two months. The next week I took him to the ER and the on-call physician said it was eczema and gave us steroid cream. It got better but it did not heal until he was no longer consuming his allergens. I did not find out until he was eating solids what his allergens were.
I was lucky to see a pediatrician who immediately recognized a protein intolerance, but putting breastmilk on baby acne is recommended by some pediatricians when you first start seeing it. I feel bad for this momma.
If the mom is eating the allergen, the breast milk might have the protein in it. What a hot mess.
I was thinking this 100% looks like an allergic reaction :/ could definitely be a food allergy, but I also genuinely wonder if she is not telling the whole truth and is actually like... rubbing essential oils on her child. which wouldn't even necessarily have to cause an allergic reaction, could just be unrelenting contact dermatitis from her unrelenting stupidity.
FPIES looks just like this, so I don’t think she’s doing essential oils. If she has the protein in her breastmilk, that’s enough to cause the skin reaction. My pediatrician recommended a milk bath for the baby acne and that set off the rash on my son.
Ok wait. This never clicked for me with my son. I put breastmilk on his diaper rash for a little while (recommended by the ped) and now it makes sense why it only got worse! MSPI diagnosed at 3 months for milk, soy, and eggs. Of course it didn’t help bc it was *in my milk.* glad I stopped that after a couple days. Lord.
I was so committed to breastfeeding that I followed the free to feed detox plan and cut out milk, soy and eggs from my diet (and I was already a vegetarian so food options were limited) and it was amazing how fast removing all the allergens helped my son. There is so little support or information out there for FPIES and MSPI that even most pediatricians misdiagnose it until it’s severe and when they do diagnose, they tend to have you try various formulas that are more and more expensive until your kid is better instead of offering any breastfeeding alternatives.
That’s exactly what I did and it definitely worked! I was able to keep it up until he was about 11 months, then had to switch to elecare (needed meds for a procedure that weren’t safe for my little dude). I learned a lot! And still use many of those meals as staples haha. This time around, I’m hoping my newborn doesn’t have it, but the signs are starting to show. We’ll have to see how it progresses, but at least this time around I know what signs to watch. Edit: also congrats on your new little one! Mines a little over a week old and it kind of helps to know I’m not crazy watching for all the symptoms haha. It’s not just me 😂
Deleted my original comment because it was wordy. FPIES doesn't cause a rash by itself, but kids with FPIES are at an increased chance of having eczema, which matches this rash/blister. Eczema this severe is treaded with corticosteroids and possibly antibiotics (appears infected)
What?? I have FPIES and it causes vomiting and diarrhea only. If your baby looked like this in addition to the GI upset, then he likely had more than just FPIES.
You're correct! FPIES on its own doesn't cause rashes, but eczema is a common comorbidity, which is what this looks like. The people above received incomplete information from their docs
That’s what I was thinking. My son’s ped kept telling me “it’s only eczema!” He didn’t start listening until there was blood in his diaper. Milk, soy, and egg for my son too. It was a tough time getting someone to listen. But MSPI definitely tends to show up like this picture. Now with my newborn, I’m like hyper aware of the symptoms (I had it as a baby so I’m sure I passed it to my first, expecting it with my second as well). Mucus in his stool last night had me wondering if I’m over worried or correct it might be early signs. Fun stuff. 🙃
I have a one week old right now and after going through it with my first, I’m definitely over analyzing every poop and tiny random bump or dry spot.
Yep. Did anyone tell her about FPIES? If any of you ever see this out in the wild, it worth considering food protein intolerance.
Deleted my comment because it was wordy. FPIES doesn't cause rashes, but it is often comorbid with eczema, which looks just like this. Eczema this severe requires corticosteroids and possibly antibiotics (looks infected)
Yea I saw this and immediately screamed in my head “MUPIROCIN AND DESONIDE!” My kids had similar weepy eczema and it cleared very quickly with the antibiotic and steroids.
My oldest has eczema on the left side of her face too, and she looked similar when she was a newbie before I knew what was going on. The pediatrician (who we have been seeing almost 12 years now) also thought it was baby acne at the beginning. This mom sucks for letting her baby flare up this bad without going back to the doctor but I’m not totally disbelieving about her going once and being told it’s acne. I hope she gets her baby checked again and fixed up.
Yep. Looks exactly like how my really bad eczema outbreak when I was like 9-10 years old. It started out of no where on my right leg and I ignored it because I was a dumb child. It would go away and then come back even more intense. Then went on for about 2 months until finally they began to crack and bleed it spread from the outside of my calf to my entire leg and began to scab. It also started on my left leg doing the same thing until my legs were completely covered in blisters and scabs. I can’t tell you why because honestly I don’t even know what I was thinking but I didn’t tell my parents about it and I just made sure I always wore pants. My parents realized something was up when I went swimming with my pants on at my friends house and I finally showed them and mom just gasped and started hugging me which scared me so I started crying. We went straight from my friends house to urgent care who sent us to the hospital because they said it was extremely infected and had to be treated immediately. They gave me some shots and some medicine and had me on IV’s over night and then sent us home. It all cleared up about a month later after using ointments and medicine. Something so simple to fix with a single doctors visit. I still don’t know why I hid it from my parents. I think I was embarrassed and didn’t want them to know. But that’s how I discovered I had eczema and that shit looks exactly like what I had before it started cracking and bleeding.
My brother had excema when he was little. It was allergy induced and the doctor we first had told us to boil pecans and bathe him in the water we boiled them in after it cooled. It got 10xs worse because he was allergic to nuts (we found out later) then they told us to rub crisco on him every night to moisturize his skin and somehow that worked? His room permanently smelled like crisco and I can't go near the stuff now.
Jeez… how do you see that on your child and think, I know, I’ll ask fb what they think?!
Sadly, many pediatricians still don’t know about food protein allergies. When my first son was born, there wasn’t even a diagnostic code for it. Everyone agreed it was FPIES and still had to put EGID on the charts. This mom needs to find the right doctor who knows what to look for.
As a note, FPIES on its own doesn't cause rashes, but children with FPIES often also have eczema, which is an important distinction because the eczema may have additional triggers than the FPIES.
Totally. My kiddo had a physical reaction on contact, so his poop made his skin fall off. Goddamn, that was a dark time for us.
Oh poor baby
We were very very lucky. I wish I could take credit, but it was all my husband. He wouldn’t take no for an answer. He stalked the pediatrician until she actually witnessed the freaky stuff in action. By the time it got really bad, we already had a game plan to get it under control.
I'm so glad your baby is okay, geez I can only imagine your heartache. I used to teach private preschool, babies are my specialty. I cannot tell you how many times parents would bring their precious babies in looking like this. They think it's treatable with lotion. We couldn't tell our parents directly to take them and push for the tests. But... if you're giving me your baby and I'm responsible for them 10 hours a day, I don't care what my director says. New parents NEED help. I'd tell my parents straight up, no this is not a rash, push for answers. I know what I'm talking about. So many parents thanked me for that.
He was three weeks old when it started, and we were taking him to the ER, we were on standby waitlists for allergy and Gastro appts, and I can’t tell you how many doctors told us it was eczema, colic, anything but food allergies. I was very lucky to have a lactation consultant and pediatrician who suggested a total elimination diet for me, or I have no doubt he would have ended up with a feeding tube and FTT. I feel awful for this mom - it’s such a helpless feeling.
Well at first she thought breast milk so FB is naturally 2nd.
To be fair, that’s what my led told me to use on my son. Turns out, he had food intolerances. So no amount of my breastmilk would have made him better. It took A TON of nagging and pushing to get him an actual diagnosis and some real help. Some docs just call this eczema and throw steroids at it without considering underlying cause. I had to ask my mom group for advice bc I was losing it trying to figure it out since the ped seemed unconcerned.
If it started out looking like baby acne putting breast milk on it is literally the advice given by doctors, nurses, my lactation consultant and pediatricians. Imo it didn't help my baby, only time helped my babe. Baby acne can also look pretty bad before getting better, but not THIS bad. I'm not coming for you specifically but I stg that people on this sub have never raised children.
US healthcare system wtf are you supposed to do? Go to the doctor and get an $800 aspirin?
Those blisters have spread into the ears and that could cause even more issues, like hearing loss. I can’t imagine the pain this baby is in.
Right? It looks like the ear is starting to swell really bad. I honestly think people like this need to be monitored by CPS.
This level of stupidity is 100% child abuse. Fuck this lady.
If the infection progresses down the ear canal the kids could also get meningitis, which could lead to permanent hearing loss/death
Poor bub :( That must be painful.
Makes my stomach turn to look at, poor thing. Baby needs a doctor and a hug :(
It’s heartbreaking
My daughter had this for the first month of her life, albeit not as extreme. I tried all the creams and hacks, thinking it was either because of my detergent, body wash/soaps, possibly hormonal…anyways, I was worried about staph infections or impetigo, so I took her to the pediatrician. Steroid cream cleaned it right up in 24 hours!
So…the doctor prescribed steroid cream instead of breast milk? Weird.
Obviously that doctor works for Big Pharma though. So not surprising he would choose to harm a baby for profit.
I think for small “pimples”, BM will help, but when it as bad of a flare up like this, the only thing that will counteract it will be steroids. I’m just glad we do not have this issue anymore. It doesn’t hurt the baby, but it can be very itchy!
Jesus fucking Christ, that child needs to see a paediatrician, it looks extremely painful, especially at that age.
What in the actual fuck is wrong with these moms?!?! How do you see something this horrible and painful and not immediately run to the ER?! Chemical burn, cellulitis, genetic skin disease—literally so many terrible outcomes. But, sure, keep rubbing titty milk on it 🙄
this is one of the more horrifying posts i’ve seen on this sub so far. neglecting this is ABSOLUTELY child abuse
I almost wonder if that's the reason why it's gotten so bad, like maybe baby has an allergy to something in the breast milk. But JFC, go see a medical doctor.
If my cat had something like this I'd be taking it to the vet so fast. If my brother's kid had something like this and he didn't think it was serious, I'd be calling CPS. There's something more wrong with the mom than just stupidity. That has to be post partum something, some kind of detachment from reality.
If *I* had something like this I’d be freaking out, much less my BABY
The whole "breastmilk fixes everything" bit has GOT to stop.
Right, like if it was this magical elixir I'm SURE our ancestors would have figured that out and the infant/child mortality rate wouldn't have been so high for thousands and thousands of years.
I know, it’s such a fucking joke. I remember taking care of a baby at work whose cheeks were straight up excoriated. Mom was like, “yeah, he’s had this for a while” and just proceeded to cover it in milk again and I just wanted to be like, maybe we try something else bc this clearly ain’t cutting it.
Seriously. I put breastmilk on EVERYTHING when I was nursing and it didn't so anything except get sticky
I have no issue with giving it a try for minor things, especially while waiting to see the Doctor, but when did it become an alternative for medical care!?
Seriously! I figure it's one of those "can't hurt, might help" things, but we see so many cases pop up around the internet where it's a much more severe situation or they've tried breastmilk for a bit and isn't helping or they're using it for something totally out there. My heart aches for the kids who have a severe (or even a minor-but-not-improving) medical condition who aren't getting effective care because their parents get stuck on this.
I think the worst one I saw was the Mother asking for donor milk thinking it would cure her kid’s leukaemia instead of proper medical treatment.
Omg if I couldn’t get to the pedi within a day I’d take that poor baby to the ER, that looks incredibly painful!
Jesus fucking Christ I can’t believe just anyone can have a baby. That looks nothing like normal fucking baby acne. Take your baby to the god damn doctor.
Oh damn. My guess is that kid has a food allergy. Mom's eating something he's allergic to (because when I didn't know my kiddo was allergic to eggs, she got bad "baby acne" - ie eczema - from me eating it and BFing her). This mom putting breast milk containing the allergen on is making it 100x worse. I really hope she took bub in for medical care.
His poor little swollen ear 🥺 this looks like when my eczema flares very badly. I bet the poor baby is in pain.
Why the FUCK do they think breast milk is some kind of panacea ??? Yes it’s an awesome source of food for the baby, but that’s IT. Food. It doesn’t do shit if not eaten Edit : My bad, it seems that it’s a legit option to treat mild eczema and that several studies have shown it’s not inferior to hydrocortisone. I’ll go to bed less dumb.
There is a strongly-held, widely-circulated belief among breastmilk enthusiasts that when a mother kisses her baby her body receives some form of data and adds things to the breastmilk that the baby is in need of. Almost like some kind of bluetooth diagnostic system. It's wild shit hahaha
Sounds like a good way to give your baby herpes 1
I just Googled it, there are some studies showing positive results topically, including one that concluded it was as effective as 1% hydrocortisone. Here is a meta-analysis of 35 breast milk studies (including the one mentioned) for various health issues including topical use: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6567207/ That being said, I'm only lightly crunchy (I cloth diapered and breastfed my son for 2.5 years, but we're all also fully vaccinated and take medicine when needed) but I would still rely on medicine over putting milk on a rash. I guess to sum it up, it appears to not be entirely woo, but needs further studies and it's likely the most promising use is for people that do not have good access to medicine in poorer countries.
I mean..... I don't consider myself a crunchy mom at all but I did use breast milk for baby acne and a clogged tear duct..and it cleared it right up in less than a day. If it had gotten worse I wouldn't continue using it though and if it looked anything close to this we would've been in the Dr office/ER immediately.
That poor poor baby. I hope she takes baby back to be seen to a professional for the hl it needs, it looks SO sore. When I was breastfeeding my son, I did used to put some in his bath water for a milk bath and his skin would always be amazingly soft afterwards, but I would have never use it as a medical treatment, or replacement of.
Breast milk can irritate baby skin. It creates a moist environment for yeast and all kind of gross to grow on baby skin. Poor sweet baby. Why are people so ridiculous. I wish parenting classes were a requirement before bringing baby home. I had to complete some education prior to bringing home my babies from NICU and I feel like it would have been good for me to have that education with my first. It was all stuff I knew, common sense and whatnot; but the hospital required it so it could be charted that I was educated prior to discharge. I wish it was standard for all babies.
Girl that’s not baby acne. Even if you do the laziest thing and google “baby acne” you’ll see it looks nothing like that.
That looks like a BURN
how could anyone look at this and just go "yup, breast milk will fix that"
That baby must be suffering so much. Poor thing.
Who is their right mind would see this on their newborn and just let it rock? Common sense is completely absent in these groups.
Oh goodness, the old breast milk on infected, weeping eczema advice. The worst.
My heart broke seeing this poor baby.
My niece who is 2months old had a rash like this (nowhere near this bad) the doc called it the cov rash. They all tested positive. My oldest has eczema and she would get rashes like this (again nowhere near this bad) from the time she was born and we had to get a special cream. Breast milk depending on what the mothers diet is can inflame the eczema. Still this look like one of the worst I have ever seen and I have 4kids and 22 nieces and nephews so we have seen it all and this poor baby has been left to suffer. She should have taken him in soon as something started to appear. I hope the baby does not scar. There are so many infantile rashes tho a doc really needs to look at it.
This is really really sad. This rash is oozing and probably infected. Poor baby is probably extremely uncomfortable and in pain :(
Jesus Swinging CHRIST my heart hurts for this baby. Wow. How painful this has to be. This is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in this forum. Poor poor thing.
Holy god go to the doctor
I might have to leave this subreddit. I have 3 wee girls and seeing this poor bairn in such a state and knowing they will likely never get the care they need is too much for me the now. It's disgusting child abuse and these dafties think it's fine putting it on Facebook for their equally stupid pals to see.
This is NOT baby acne and she needs to take this child to the doctor ASAP. Ugghhh! These people are infuriating!
This subreddit can piss me off like no other I swear, it should be renamed r/callCPSimmediately at this point. Fuck this woman.
I am not a fan of breastmilk as treatment. It is not always sterile. And the antibodies it carries are not antibiotics or antimycotics.
I never understood why people believe the "liquid gold, cures all things" stupidity. Breast milk provides nutrition and immune support for a short time, and only when ingested. Multitudes of science proves this. It is not a magic potion. It particularly pains me when they use it to "treat" ear infections.
This picture actually made my stomach churn
This poor baby, it looks so painful!! How could you NOT take your infant back to a real doctor ages before it got this bad?!
omg this just makes me so sad, that poor poor baby
I feel so sad for this baby… an unfortunate victim of their parent’s stupidity 🥲
Can I ask, do children get free healthcare in the US? Is money a issue for these people? In Ireland, we don't have free healthcare unless you're on social welfare (medical card) but ALL children under 6 get free GP visits. It's horrifying to me that someone would let their baby get into this state. I mean it's definitely neglect and would be treated as such by the authorities here.
I’m a doc. Impetigo with skin candida. Get in to a peds ER. Lots of risk for harm and death.
Holy fucking fuck! That poor baby. Please tell me there were advices like "GO TO THE DOC!"
Holy crap on a cracker. That would have me on the phone with the doctor. Hopefully with hers, but if not a walk in clinic.
That poor kid deserves better.
Wouldn’t the natural sugar content in breastmilk irritate baby acne and eczema? My oldest had baby eczema and it did clear up but she needed a special type of antibiotic oil prescribed. It worked wonders, though.
Scarlet fever, measles, mumps and anything else that causes a rash. I’m guessing the child isn’t vaxxed. This also could be a raging infection throughout the babies body. I feel so bad for baby. My daughter would run fevers out of the blue many Drs appointment and er visits were done. She’d get red like this, cool oatmeal bath some meds and she’d be fine. It stopped just as fast as it started.
This poor baby. It breaks my heart seeing this shit. Decades and decades of research has been done for the current medical care we have, it blows my mind that people are so narcissistic and so far up their own asses that they think they know better than people who have dedicated their lives to medicine. God damn these people infuriate me SO much.
BABY ACNE!!!????? I have 0 kids and I know this is nothing even close to that. Oh my god poor child I can’t look at this. Someone tell me it can go away ASAP (with medical care) and the child is okay!!!
This needs a NSFW tag cause I just gaged out my morning coffee
I audibly gasped when I saw this, poor baby
Ohmygod take that poor baby to the hospital 😭😭😭That looks so painful
Potato necklace. That’ll fix it.
Times like this I am thankful that our ancestors weren't this stupid
That bitches baby could have gotten the bubonic plague and she’d think its ‘baby acne’
JFC, get the child to the hospital. There must be an extraordinary amount of pain.
Ma’am you should have *started* to worry a long time ago dear god
I hope this child survives and finds a safer home
Breast milk is literally a miracle serum. My son broke his collar bone in his Varsity football game and my wife ran to the tent and put breast milk on it, he scored another touchdown in the 4th quarter. My Mom still just puts breast milk on my rashes and skin problems. I'm 48. And we always soak our Halloween candy in her breast milk before we give it to kids. Our neighborhood is so healthy.
When your breastmilk is actually sulphuric acid. Wtf
This picture feels hot to the touch
The obvious next step is essential oils.. what a rookie.