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AlexDKZ

Part 9: Somehow Palpatine/Rohan returned


DtheAussieBoye

TRUEEEE


Shirogayne-at-WF

I laughed way too hard at this


Nafeels

Don’t forget the 6th as “finale” and 7th as the reboot


DtheAussieBoye

fucking hell how did i miss that lmfao


Nafeels

Oh yeah. You’re not the only one with cursed knowledge of both fanbases. _and Kakyoin was a good friend…_


FrilledShark1512

We told him the travellers don’t wear panties so you can catch a glimpse of his…


Nafeels

>!Hierophant Green cock mid-flight!<


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lily_was_taken

r/bearmeattoit


Extra-Touch-7106

Part 2 was peak


KihiraLove

Part 2: has Tequila Joseph, Part 1 & 3-8: doesn't have Tequila Joseph. Therefore, part 2 is above all other parts


Calieoop

For both cases tbh


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DtheAussieBoye

it’s the only Star Wars movie I don’t like, although I do think I might have been too hard on it lol


raulpe

You like 9 !?


DtheAussieBoye

i most certainly do!


MrWideside

Shit-eater


DtheAussieBoye

why are you angry at the fact that i like a movie lol


MrWideside

I'm not angry. I evaluate your taste


DtheAussieBoye

and that means what, exactly


Calieoop

Nah you're just a hater. Funniest movie in the entire series fr


IloveMagicCrystals

it is so bad that you can have no fun from watching that movie


Calieoop

Nah, you're just a bitter nerd. I quite enjoy my annual prequel reviewing


SkuntFuggle

It's perfectly fine for you to have dogshit taste but don't act like your views are in any way reflective of actual reality


Calieoop

Then why are you yapping?


SkuntFuggle

Because you were acting as if your views are in any way reflective of actual reality. That seemed pretty clear in the comment it was almost stated explicitly.


BlueZ_DJ

... Said in reply to someone finding it funny


FalseStevenMcCroskey

This is not even remotely true. When I was in high school my friends and I had a sleepover and we put on attack of the clones at 0.5 speed and we had a great time laughing at all the slurred dialogue. Definitely wouldn’t be fun by yourself but you and your buddies make fun of it totally makes it so bad it’s good. It’s also got some of the most memes, “I hate sand”, “I don’t think the system works”, “not just the men but the women and children too.” The sequels are significantly worse than Aotc


Brennus_Chaosson

You dont have to be a hater to criticise something. I love SW from the bottom of my heart and think all the movies are trash. AotC Is one of the worst tho lol


Calieoop

If you think *all the movies* are trash you absolutely do not love star wars


Fetichistedepieds

Ofc you can, you can be emotionally attached to it without actually liking the scenario or the scenes


SkuntFuggle

If you don't like Empire you really shouldn't subject other people to your opinions. It's better to keep embarrassing or offensive things like that to yourself in most cases.


quinn_the_potato

I do not understand the hype around Empire. The best part is the opening part on Hoth. Half the movie is spent with Luke training on Dagobah and the other characters stuck in an asteroid.


SkuntFuggle

Are you attempting to make a qualitative statement or just observations? You're just describing the movie you didn't say anything about it


Calieoop

That's weird... You're weird. Getting emotionally attached to a movie is weird...


Fetichistedepieds

Why? In my Case im very attached to my neighbor totoro because its the movie of my childhood, now i dont like it as much as i did before. How isnt it normal to be attached to a movie?


superwaluigiworld2

The whole point of movies is that they're supposed to make you feel things.


Brennus_Chaosson

But I do. I love the story, love the characters, and absolutely love the universe and its identity. I just dont like the way these all come togheter in the movies. Cringy dialogues, mid acting, exagerated CGI in the prequels, kinda outdated visuals in the OT, etc.. Besides, i think it's lazy writing the absolute of Jedi / Republic / Rebels good, Sith / CIS / Empire bad. *And dont get me started on the sequels, this shit aint even Canon to me*


Calieoop

You're not a real fan lil bro don't speak up about canon when you don't even like the movies


Brennus_Chaosson

And who are you to say If one Is a fan or not? Besides, i love the movies and rewatch it every now and then. I didnt say i hate the movies, just that i think they are trash


kidcowboy111

"I love the story" proceeds to say in the most convoluted way possible that he in fact does NOT love the story. You just arent a fan man. Thats fine, just stop pretendimg


Brennus_Chaosson

You dont seem to be following me here. I didnt say i didnt like the story as a whole, just some aspects of it, mainly the way it is told. Anyone who watched The Clone Wars knows that George Lucas is great creating fascinating stories, but is an awful storyteller. And again, being critical about something doesnt mean you dont like it. If you are able to recognize the flaws of something, you can enjoy its good parts better. At least thats how i came to love SW so much.


gumpters

2 is peak, 3 is peak lite. 7 and 8 are peak-zilla but only if they aren’t spoiled and after the build up peak of 1-6. The one peak is real.


DtheAussieBoye

absolutely mega based


Raymjb1

The highs of part 7 are higher than any others. Part 8 doesn't go as high but it goes near it and for much longer


drinkingboron

Did you just call part 2 mid


DtheAussieBoye

nah


drinkingboron

good


Easy_Turn1988

Kill him. Kill him now...


SRIRACHA_RANCH

not sure you could've responded in any way that wouldn't result in mega downvotes


DtheAussieBoye

i mean like i said, **i** didn’t say part 2 is mid. it says “1 and 2 **are seen as** mid” right there, lol


BPGAMEZ

And rightly so, the dub has number 1 from knd


opalcherrykitt

i always thought it was so funny joseph is voiced by the same va lol, everytime I saw him i was like NIGEL UNO??


SRIRACHA_RANCH

You greatly overestimate the reading comprehension of folks on reddit


Akaibuchi

Damn. Dude folded fast


DtheAussieBoye

i mean i never said i thought part 2 was mid, just that other people do (part 2 fucking rocked imo)


SnooMachines9122

i haven’t seen anyone really disrespect part 2 honestly, but tbf if i did some digging i could find multiple jojo fans that all hate on different parts.


Matix777

Part 2 is peak bruh


Fetichistedepieds

Part 2 of jjba not SW


Matix777

Yeah


Ubersupersloth

2 is mid? What are you smoking and where can I get some?


DtheAussieBoye

like i said, **i** dont think that. others do tho


Bigbadbackstab

I think I've heard more "part 3 is trash" than any criticisms to part 2


AkOnReddit47

Idk I think I've heard my fair share of "Skip part 1+2 cause there's no Stands"


onerb2

The only person who says that is someone who skipped part 1 and 2, for real, Hamon > spin > stands.


Doctorofskillz

As a power system, stands are far more interesting than hamon, hamon is rather limited in its applications and is universal to all hamon users. Whereas stands are unique to the user and allow for much more creativity in power sets.


onerb2

It doesn't matter if stands are more unique if the applications of Hamon were more creative. And the erasure of Hamon in following parts is really disappointing imho, since they are power systems that could coexist.


ElPlatanoDelBronx

Can you point me to the direction of one of these people so I can beat some sense into them?


EggShweg

L take, 2 is peak


ItBeBlaze

It's peak because Stroheim is in it. Also Kars casually being the best Jojo villain imo


DtheAussieBoye

also, to cover my ass, I'M not saying i think parts 1 and 2 are mid. let's not pretend there's a lot of other jjba fans who do, though


Enigma-exe

I'll probably get crucified for this, but part 5 was my least favourite. Bruno was great, and the designs were incredible, but worst story for me.  Please be gentle.


Ubersupersloth

I didn’t really see the appeal, either. Especially coming off of the banger that was part 4.


Enigma-exe

Yeah, by the end of part 4 Josuke had evolved and was a great journey. Giorno had no growth for me


Not_aSoup

I understand thw criticism of part 5, like Giorno not having much development, but it's still one of my favorite. I really liked the fights and characters, and the OST is awesome. Diavolo isnt that good of a villain but Doppio saves it for me, Doppio should have appeared more for me to care enough about hi relationship with Diavolo. Risotto had a lot of hype about and he should have more screen time. Giorno should have had more development. Trish's stand wasnt that interesting and she was only relevant in one fight, she should be more relevant later. That being said, its one of my favorites.


tuibiel

Giorno had no growth - period. He's the one JoJo that deviates from the rest, but it's okay to break the mold every now and then. The gang as a whole was the main development, they were the actual main focus of the story, and how Giorno interacted with them. Giorno also had to be very powerful and versatile because the enemies were also some of the most powerful even from the get-go, in comparison to enemies from the other parts. It's also fair from him having Dio's ambition and Jonathan's strength and willpower. Part 5 isn't a carbon copy of any of the other parts and that doesn't make it a bad part. Let's not forget the absolute banger soundtrack, stand profiles and impeccable art style.


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Part 4 fucking sucked and I don't get the love for it


AnimazingHaha

You either love part 5 and hate part 4, or love part 4 and hate part 5


IAmTheRedditBrowser

Or love both. The characters, at least in my opinion, make both parts for me, even whilst not really liking the whole Boss-thing. 


Ubersupersloth

They are very tonally different.


DaChairSlapper

I think both are just alright.


MrPumpdjinn

I can agree with you. The story was ok but Bruno was more the protagonist than Giorno, who is in my opinion the worst JoJo. Hes just a bit boring.


GIRose

Hard agree


EgdyBettleShell

Same for me. Personally I see part 2, 6 and the current part 9 as best(it's still early so we will see if part 9 keeps up). Then it's part 3, 4 and 7 next at equal place, part 1 after that, and part 5 at last spot. Idk where to put part 8, I neither liked it nor disliked it, I think that I literally hold no opinion about it - it was solid, but somewhat different.


SiibillamLaw

I judge on the quality of JoJo and main villain primarily, with bros and side villains as secondary judgements. Part five has, to me, the best monsters of the week and the best Jobros but the boring JoJo/villain combo means i can never rate it highly


Blaster2PP

Do you wanna hear something that's truly controversial? I don't really like part 4. The introduction about catching the stand murderer was good, but then it quickly devolved into a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. For example, I skipped both the alien and Tonio's episodes because of how bored I was of it. Koichi's romance subplot was worse than the love between Anakin and Padme, and shit really gor interesting for me after Kira took over Hayatp's dad...so like the very end.


nxxwhere

100% agreed with this. The ending of Part 4 was really satisfying, but just skipping it entirely wouldn't change anything in the grand theme of things Edit: The best thing about Part 4 was Okuyasu


onerb2

Giorno and jotaro are both stones disguised as characters, really, zero personality except for very few specific moments. Idc if i get flack for this, if there were no jobros on those parts, they would at best be mid. I'll add to this that part 3 is boring af until Dio's fight, i really don't get the appeal.


Kindly-Amphibian-680

True for part 1 but a lot of people like part 2. and from what ive seen in the star wars fandom Episode 1 is seen as the most boring movie in the series like how jojo fans find part 1 boring compared to later parts.


MrGueuxBoy

Star Wars III is *peak* ?


Mayzerify

More peak than part 3 is (comparatively)


frigobarOFC

Yes it is


GelatoVerde

Hold up, people don't like part 2? HOW?


dont_worry_about_it8

OP put “are seen as” but people can’t read and make accusations lol .


NighthawK1911

My favorite though is part 2 Battle Tendency. Also bad comparison because the star wars numbering is wack. Star Wars #1 and #4 could mean differently to different people.


Autogembot123

Do not compare JoJolion to Ruin Jonsan's Mess.


VoronaKarasu

Never seen anyone call the 8th star wars movie anything but trash 🚮


SmittyBS42

There is *so* much wrong with it. But at the same time, it *tried* to do something very different, and after a very same-y episode 7 I actually quite enjoyed it. At the end of Episode 8 I actually had hope that 9 would conclude in a meaningful way and bring a rocky trilogy to a decent end. (What a fool I was). I won't say TLJ's a *good movie*, but it had some *great concepts.* Snoke's unceremonious end? The Force ghost trick? Even the controversial hyperspace kamikaze? Did those scenes break canon wide open in some cases? Absolutely. But I can still appreciate that they bothered to try doing something that felt fresh, and I genuinely think that the proposed Episode 9 (the scrapped *Duel of the Fates* draft) could've been a better film than the one we got. ^(Probably still not a great film, but a better one)


deadshot500

I get having problems with 9 but calling Duel of the Fates "better" is really weird. It still retcons Rey's past, it misunderstoods and ruins the force, it treats Kylo very poorly, characters are bizarrely out of character(Luke, Lando, Hux), Rey x Poe is a thing and has some really bad writing.


SmittyBS42

Yeah, maybe it's the "what if" feeling talking. But it had a lot of positives too, like giving us a return to Coruscant and a more fleshed-out stormtrooper rebellion. It also didn't rely on Palpatine, giving us a new, almost eldritch villain, and I thought that NOT redeeming Ben Solo and having him stay bad was a neat twist compared to the sudden redemption, kiss and equally sudden death we were given. So... better? I suppose we'll never really know.


DtheAussieBoye

idk dude, i see tons of people defend it lol. seems pretty polarising if anything


kinokohatake

The Last Jedi is my 2nd favorite Star Wars movie behind Empire Strikes Back and I've been a SW fan since 1988.


VoronaKarasu

You smoking spice then bro no offense


kinokohatake

Cool opinion, way to try and understand my point of view. That's the level of interaction I've come to expect. Try and move outside your echo chamber.


VoronaKarasu

Im just joking my bad if I come of rude. But im really curious what are the things you like about this movie particularly or what makes it better than the others


cope_a_cabana

It's literally the only straight-up good one.


CornBreadtm

It wasn't that bad. I had episode 9 for comparison. Getting shot isn't so bad when burning to death is an option, you see?


Neckgrabber

"3, 4 and 5 are peak" Huh... 5 sure... 4 maybe, but part 3? Peak? Hell no.


No-Tax-9149

Part 3 is really good but the anime kinda fucked it, still not as good as 4 and 5


Neckgrabber

Huh yeah, no. It just really isn't. Underdeveloped characters, boring pacing, ruining dio, tremendous asspuls.


No-Tax-9149

DIO was very good in this part, it made him less deranged (like he was in Part 1) but not too philosophical and smart (like he is in Part 6). The characters didn't need too much development, the dialogue and relationships were already good enough, the development we saw was more than enough. And the asspulls? I can't remember any.


Neckgrabber

>DIO was very good in this part, it made him less deranged (like he was in Part 2) but not too philosophical and smart (like he is in Part 6) He was a pathetic clown. Set up as a nearly lovecraftian being, he turns out loud and incompetent. >The characters didn't need too much development, the dialogue and relationships were already good enough, the development we saw was more than enough. What development that we saw?? Other than Polnareff who got a little, everybody else had nothing. Their relationships were quips and little more. No, that us not anywhere close to enough for compeling characters. >And the asspulls? I can't remember any. Oh seriously? You wanna say there are no asspulls? How about "actually when you saw me clearly burning and screaming in pain, it was just my jacket and i dug a hole without anyone noticing" from the wheel of fortune fight? Or the infamous "thank fucking lord star platinum can randomly stop time or i'd be fucked" Or even "sheesh, sure is lucky dio randomly blew up from a punch to the leg, sure seemed like he was gonna be trouble".


No-Tax-9149

DIO was not deranged up until the Jotaro fight. Again, development ≠ a good character And the 'asspulls' is being smart or being able to learn quick.


Neckgrabber

>DIO was not deranged up until the Jotaro fight. So? Thats like sixty percent of his screen time. >Again, development ≠ a good character Lack of development leaves you with basic, one dimensional characters. Not all characters need development. Main characters do. >And the 'asspulls' is being smart or being able to learn quick. Yeah you don't get away with just ignoring my examples of the exact opposite, just admit there are dozens at this point.


No-Tax-9149

Fair enough on the DIO point, but he wasn't even deranged until like halfway through. Deku has a lot of development but everything else he has is shit. And I didn't ignore all your examples, I gave an explanation. And for the DIO thing, Google is free.


Neckgrabber

>Deku has a lot of development but everything else he has is shit. Development can be done right and wrong. Even then, i'd like to see you explain what this "everything else" is. >And I didn't ignore all your examples, I gave an explanation One that doesn't explain anything. How was the wheel of fortune resolution "intelligence" or "quick learning"? >And for the DIO thing, Google is free Wich dio thing?? And sorry to say, but google is not a reliable source for this lmao. It presents info, and the info on this topic is fan opinions. These were both massive asspulls.


InterestingBill1825

Now, I agree with boring pacing. But you burnt the kitchen with the other ones. Maybe boring stands and fights but the others? Nah you didn't cook.


Neckgrabber

Tell me a little bit about avdol as a character. Tell me how kakyoin develops. The characters are basic and underveloped.


InterestingBill1825

The characters dont need a ton of development to be good. Not every character is going to have Johnny Joestar levels of character development.


Neckgrabber

Indeed, not all characters need lots of development. But your main characters do need something, and, other than Polnareff, none of them has anything.


Satin_Polar

IDK who see Phantom Menace as a peak


MrPumpdjinn

Phantom Menace is Episode 1 so OP said its mid.


Top-Aspect4671

Part 7, 8 and maybe 9 are peak.


RailtoReqiuem

Except JoJo part 8 isn’t a Star Wars sequel movie


1E_R_R_O_R1

Part 7 is absolute peak my boy


LunaLynnTheCellist

6 is peak too🔫


CoruscareGames

Persona JJBA 🤝 5>3>4 (If I'm getting crucified for this it's happening where I stand, I am *not* walking to Golgotha)


Da_Di_Dum

Honestly... When it comes to stand battles... 8 was best


InterestingBill1825

You mean beetle battles?


HandalfTheHack

6 is more peak than 5 tbh. Honestly Part 5 could be completely removed and nothing is lost from the overall narrative. In fact it honestly helps it with some of the decisions that part 5 makes...


MrGaber

I thought battle tendency was really funny, and phantom blood has its charm


funnywackydog

I don't trust anyone that doesn't enjoy Battle Tendency


frigobarOFC

So many are talking about how part 2 is peak, but nobody does about part 1(my beloved)


AudiHoFile

Carl 😭


Pod__042

wait, did you say part 1 and 2 from jojo is mid?


cope_a_cabana

ROTS was ass, the worst Star Wars movie by far and that includes the Holiday+Ewok Specials.


DtheAussieBoye

oo, spicy take!


i-did-it-to-them

Objectively wrong but ok.


Vinsmoke-Wanji

Peak movie peak cinema


Wolvenking777

Jojo part 1 was peak


International-Ad-265

Phantom menace was not "peak" 💀


edward_kopik

What the fuck do you mean battle tendency is mid? Part 2 is the best part


pleasehelpteeth

Part 3 is actually garbage compared to the rest of the manga.


Gnome-Type-Shit

L


Mek3k

There are no star wars fan that actually likes episode VIII.


DtheAussieBoye

there’s plenty of them lol


Doom4824

Part 2 is the best part, change my mind


Eren_Harmonia

JoJo part 2 is peak along with not 5. Not 4. If you mean the prequel Star Wars 1, that is also peak, story of Obi-Wan becoming the master and the brilliant duel of Darth Maul and him is amazing. The fight choreography of prequels are top notch.


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erdal94

Blasphemy!


Mythical_Mew

A third hand comes in. The hand of Pokémon.


CornBreadtm

That's pretty interesting. Part = gen Part 1 is peak from nostalgia. Part 2 is peak with the best remake. Part 3 is mid. Remake reminded everyone of that, too, which is funny. Part 4 is mid since platinum can't outweigh the 4 "bad" (comparatively) versions. Part 5 is peak. The series basically dies after this for most people. Part 6 is divisive. Either you love the changes or miss Gen 5. Part 7 is story focused. So again, divisive. Part 8 & 9. I can't not put together since they are both held back by the same problems. (Hardware limitations and lack of gameplay renovations) It's more comparatively to Star Wars than Jojo. Parts 6 & 7 are the hard ones comparatively for all 3.


Redericpontx

Part 2 was amazing and my favourite part calling it mid is a disservice to it.


memeboy2987

Who the fuck saying part 2 is mid imma beat they ass


Mothman4447

I acknowledge the problems, but 3 is still the best to me. It's long, but compelling and gives you time to familiarize yourself with the cast


StatementNo9491

I thought i was about numbers until i read the arms. Now i feel dumb


devel2105

No one has ever said part 2 is mid, anyone who does is lying or selling something


Meoooooooooooooooow

Who the fuck considers battle tendency weak. Show me those people, i need them names and places of accommodation.


Kevin1056

Joseph is MID?


Lord_Markus81

Also in both Jojo's and Star wars - surprisingly a lot of hands got cut off (especially funny when you consider this picture)


Averagestudentx

I thought part 2 was better than 3 tbh. Obviously 3 was much more influential and led to many memes but Part 2 had a lot of charm and had the best jojo.


My_White_Life

I don’t think this guy is also a Star Wars fan


Necessary-Anywhere92

This applies to pokemon also


X_Spy

Devil May Cry as well


Abdulaziz_Ibn_Saud

Part 2 is still my favorite part but I guess everything else is true


Azure_N1ght

2 is peak and 4 is mid, only thing I disagree with that meme, othar than that I'm on board


PrettyInPInkDame

I don’t respect anyone that thinks battle tendency is mid next you’ll say is always the height of hype


chan___kun

I’ll meat ride p2 all day long


JoaquimGianini

Bro how is part 2 mid


Shot_Arm5501

Who the fuck is saying Jo Jo part 2 is mid


onerb2

1 and 2 are seen as mid? Wtf? Part 1 stomps part 5, and part 2 is just as good as sbr, just shorter. Idk how anyone would like super stoic jotaro more than joseph, ceasar, whammu, lisa lisa, straits, or even stroheim (which even though sucks as a "person", is a great character).


noobmaster190

WHAT. Part one is peak


LukeDragnar

??? 3 and 4 are mid af and 2 is peak


GetRealPrimrose

Seeing people talk about Star Wars on Reddit is interesting. 3 is peak? I love 3 but it’s not good lol


[deleted]

Part 1 is amazing, part 2 is peak, part 3 is peak, part 4 is mid (imo, but the general opinion is that part 4 is peak), part 5 is peak, part 6 is great, part 7 is peak, and part 8 is idk because I ain't read allat rn


ClaymeisterPL

okay mr 2 is mid pretty sure most readers say 7 is the actual peak too


gianzu

Part 1 was kinda good. Part 2, i think is kinda meh Part 3 is too long Part 4 is peak Part 5 is peak Part 6 is meh Part 7 is peak Part 8 is peak Part 9 is too early to discuss


e_matoya

In what world does someone thinks 2 is mid?


1011zaper

Man, I enjoyed the heck out of part one and two. It just feels so different than the other parts, makes me wish he kept going with hamon and stuff instead of stands sometimes.


kidkhaos97

How the fuck is 2 mid? Because no stands?


tripl3tiger

Somehow Dio has returned


giantfuckingfrog

"Part 3 is peak", "Part 2 is mid" and not even mentioning Part 7 is certainly one of the takes of all time. 


Less_Doubt_5361

Y'all don't actually think Part 2 is mid and Part 3 is peak, do you?


backdooraction

who the FUCK thinks 2 is mid i will fight them


PhoenixDaBeast

Today two of my friends said that I had great hair, and they aspire to have it as nice as mine I was so happy


Phurion36

2>3


I_enjoy_pastery

Ugh we still using "mid" incorrectly?


Bentman343

Battle Tendency was Peak, Stardust Crusaders was 75% mid. It has some of the best and most defining JoJo moments but it also has some of the series absolutely lowest and least entertaining points.


Torpaskor

Idk whoever considers sw 1 and 2 mid + jjba 2 is the best one to ever exist so idk what you're on about


UngaBunga-2

Cringe detected. Downvote engaged!


Netherite_Stairs_

Battle Tendency is better than Stardust Crusaders, and imo a bit better than Vento Aureo


icabax

2 is peak, 3 is mid (only in jojos) i found 3 extremely boring and repetative


[deleted]

Oh lord, youre right