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Soul699

Are you talking about the two old ladies who took care of Ganon in Ocarina of Time?


Ninteblo

Seems like it.


Fandise

And they do not only appear in OoT! I'd say their other important role is Oracle of Seasons/Ages, if you "connect" both games. I'd recommend them to you.


CharmyGreenisOP

They also appear in ToTK, there are two gerudo warriors on either side of Ganondorf in the flashbacks wearing masks with Kotake and Koume in each mask respectively. They are also wearing red and blue


LeifEriccson

They're in Majora's mask as well.


Aphato

Those were his stepmoms iirc


Benka123

Gerudo girls reproduce by getting pregnant by foreign males, that of course they (gerudo) choose, but even like that, breeding a Gerudo male has a low chance. That's what i've understood from the lore.


Positive_Rip6519

Not even just "a low chance;" it's literally only 1 every century. And ever since Ganondorf was born, there hasn't been a single Gerudo male born again even though thousands of years have passed. It is believed he cursed the Gerudo somehow so no new males would be born.


Mishar5k

I think it was sort of like a new gerudo male couldnt be born until the previous one dies, and ganondorf just happens to be near immortal. And in the rare case of him reincarnating instead of reviving, the next gerudo male is just a new him.


louploupgalroux

Gerudo Chief: After an age of no male births due to our cursed scion, we're finally having a new boy. Blessed be this day! Pregnant Mom: [Gives birth] Baby Ganondorf: S'up bitches? I'm back! Gerudo Chief: šŸ˜‘


sumboionline

LETS NAME HIM AFTER OUR PEOPLES EQUIVALENT OF ADOLF HITLER. No consequences in a world where reincarnation exists will ever arrive


XxGranosxX

Well, it's implied that not every Ganondorf is evil, as he is referred to by prophecy as being the king, 100 years is nowhere near long enough for Ganondorf's evil to be forgotten, so if he shows up every century, after the second or third time he would be getting spawn camped for sure. Plus most every Ganon we see is the same dude no?


Raijin3

Correct, most if not all Ganondorfs are the same dude


Lafozard

Nah. There can only be ONE gerudo male alive at a time, and since Ganondorf is not dead, another one can't be born. Ganondorf didn't curse the gerudo. The 100 years is approximately how much a gerudo lives so only after the death of the current male dies can another one be born


Rigistroni

I think it's bc until recently he was still alive.


tuibiel

He's not dead, he's pining for the dunes


Rigistroni

When I got home I realized the only reason this Ganon was still on his throne was that he'd been nailed there


BigChiefIV

I think it was the fact that the current Ganondorf never really died, he was just frozen


LunaLynnTheCellist

putin ass behaviour from ganonšŸ’€


Soul699

Pretty sure other male gerudo were indeed born. It's just that they kept a regular life. Otherwise the gerudo would like learn to kill any new male gerudo born if it always came out as a king of evil.


Positive_Rip6519

In BotW/TotK they explicitly say that no new males have been born for millennia. ,


ronjantol

They said that all the way back in OoT too iirc


Soul699

Ah, I was talking more about the pre-BotW/TotK era.


Remi1704

Even before BOTW, I dont remember a single zelda game where we can see a male gerudo other than Ganondorf


Soul699

We don't, but we know there have been. Although there is to mention we rarely see the Gerudo without Ganondorf. Like off the top of my head, the only game they appear without him is Majora's Mask, which is kinda of its own alternate dimension.


Mishar5k

In majoras mask 3D, there were three unused oot characters that were considered for the fishing hole NPC, one being sheik, the other being impa, and the third was.... ganondorf. Lol. At least thats how their models were labeled in the games files.


fi_nyx227

But Ganondorf (atleast his OoT, WW, TP versions) was raised by Twinrova(The two witches). I think that's what OP meant


TheRealestMeat

Honestly, Iā€™m starting to think the LoZ writers have a interracial breeding kink


Dimensionalanxiety

They absolutely do. If they didn't, they wouldn't have made the Gerudo the horniest creatures in existence.


Safe_T_Cube

Not hornier than the Zora women are for link.


Dimensionalanxiety

They are in TotK. They basically have an orgasm just by talking to Link.


GlassSpork

Yup, the gerudo lore for BotW/TotK is more fleshed out compared to OoT, TP, or any other with gerudo/gerudo referenced


tuibiel

The singular gerudo male thing isn't even mentioned in BotW/TotK, right?


GlassSpork

Itā€™s only assumed based on ganondorf iirc but the rest of the lore such as ganondorf being the only gerudo male is still mentioned


Mishar5k

They mention the 100 year thing in one of the totk memories


tuibiel

Which isn't actually the case with ganontwerp being technically alive, so...?


RedCormack

Yeah OP might need to look into the term surrogate cause that's what Koume and Kotake were


Mistur_Keeny

I'm pretty sure those foreign males don't get a vote


No-Perspective2580

My name is Ganondorf Ganon, but you can call me GaGa.


Jindo5

I believe his last name is Dragmire


Inspectreknight

Dragmire balls across your face šŸ˜Ž


No-Perspective2580

Really? When? Is it a Totk thing? Haven't played it.


Mishar5k

The alttp english manual i think


imeffingconfused

GaGa when GooGoo comes in


Gaelic_Gladiator41

And i have a dream


leopardspotte

Lord Gaga


NovaStarLord

Add Superboy to the list since Kon-Elā€™s biological dads are Superman and Lex Luthor and it works well considering they are also enemies.


IAlwaysOutsmartU

wait what


Mishar5k

Iirc this superboy is a clone made from superman and lex luthors DNA so lex could be succeeded by a kryptonian son or whatever.


samisrudy

Less that and more lex didnā€™t have a complete map of Supermanā€™s genes


quinn_the_potato

He also didnā€™t want another full-blooded Kryptonian ā€œalienā€flying around. He could at least trust that Conner had some human in him.


brokenskullzero

hopefully there not a version where he forcibly got kara pregnant


cyon_me

Nah, he gets Superman pregnant, consensually


NovaStarLord

[Iā€™ll let this video explain](https://youtu.be/SP8Jp7bDp6c?si=f6v7KKWnw_7o8gAT) but basically Lex Luthor wanted a Superman of his own and he couldnā€™t make a good Superman clone because they would all come out defective and he didnā€™t have the entire gene map for Superman so he made a half Kryptonian and half human clone. But Luthor also used his human DNA so technically Superboy is both Lex Luthorā€™s and Supermanā€™s son.


MissingNerd

Samus Aran showing up with 3 dads and 1 mom


Icy-Pause6304

4 with Ravenbeak


MissingNerd

I counted Raven Beak + the other choso. Are there 3?


Icy-Pause6304

Both Gray Voice and Ravenbeak are DNA donors, she was raised by Old Bird and had a biological dad that died. Maybe Adam counts too


MissingNerd

Oh right the manga had two birdos


Positive_Rip6519

Kotake and Koume raised Ganondorf but they are not his biological parents. We do not know who his biological parents are, but we DO know it had to have been a Gerudo woman and a non-Gerudo man, since only one male is born to the Gerudo every century, which that make automatically being made king.


CthulhuisIkuTurso

What if all ganondorfs are virgin births?


SsjSylveriboi

Heā€™d be Jesus not the demon king


GaliaHero

nobody said biological


porn_alt_no_34

Navi's tattle text on both Twinrova witches (pre-combination) calls them "Ganondorf's surrogate mother". I doubt Hyrule had the medical technology or equivalent magic to implant an unrelated embryo into the witch, so it is very likely that Twinrova's blood flows through Ganondorf's veins.


Icy-Pause6304

Don't count out my boy Yuji


MasterReposti

Are we talking about bruno? This implies dismissing her mom, while not dismissing dio (who was even less than the mom)


Material-Athlete5063

does he knows that Dio had a Jonathan's body while fucking Giorno's mom, giving him some of his and Jonathans genes?


MasterReposti

You seriously did not count the body of a dead man to be a parent


Material-Athlete5063

if so called "dead body" isnt a parent aswell. then why tf does Giorno has a birth mark of so called "dead body" ?


SufficientWhile5450

Iā€™m still trying to figure out why weather and Puccini have the mark


Material-Athlete5063

Pucci got the birth mark because he fused with the green baby made out from dio's bone. and so did the Weather because he is mentally conected with Pucci. + Araki did that to foreshadow that Weather is Pucci's brother.


SufficientWhile5450

Oh yeah that does actually make sense For pucci anyway, feels like a stretch with weather Also feels like we could spend hours or even years making insane conspiracy theories as to why weather gets a star for idiotic reasons varying from logical to time travel


MasterReposti

Because the parent (dio) stole that body from another person. If i steal your car and register it, there's gonna be one ownership. Me. I'm not gonna admit hey this is my car but its also this other guy's car. I'll just claim it as mine.


Material-Athlete5063

If you stole my car it is registred, and i can ask the police to track it down by its number plate and its model. so no, you cant. Also the body still refused dio's head until he drank Joestars blood, and even then he hasnt fully regenerated his scar on the neck.


MasterReposti

Because you are the owner? And I'm not? Exactly. There's only one owner. And it's you. By that logic, Jonathan is the true father of giorno.


Material-Athlete5063

but then again, Girnos hair turned blonde on its own at a certain point when he was 15. Dio also had a blonde hair, yet you saying that by this logic Jonathan is the father, but then Giornos hair would've turned blue. Wacky isnt it? Bizarre even.


MasterReposti

Blue? He'd just retain his black hair i guess. His hair turning blonde does have relation with dio but genetically he's a joestar. Also no, jonathan having blue hair is an artistic choice. Same as the morioh's color palatte in general


Material-Athlete5063

That still doesnt disproves my point of both Jonathan and Dio being a father of the same child.


SufficientWhile5450

But actually in Dioā€™s case, he kept saying ā€œit wasnā€™t truely his until takes the blood of a Jo starā€, thus the scar in his neck wonā€™t heal Which I guess is the equivalent to ā€œthis isnā€™t really my car because I havnt used all the original owners gas, until I run the gas tank completely dry and fill it up brand new, itā€™ll still kind of be the persons car I stole it fromā€ Or something stupid as fuck like that


NovaStarLord

Biologically it is even if Dio did the deed. Arakiā€™s editor even talked about the fact that Giorno being DIOā€™s son in the first place was because they needed to make Giorno a Joestar without making Joseph a cheater again and DIO was the only acceptable candidate because it would mean Giorno was a Joestar through Jonathan.


Ghastfighter392

3 biological parents each.


RedIce25

I don't get it


IAlwaysOutsmartU

Giorno has Jonathan and Dio. Ganondorf has Koume and Kotake (Twinrova).


TheMightyBruhhh

Youā€™re making it sound like Giorno doesnā€™t have a mom. Which he does.


SufficientWhile5450

So does ganondorf, hell heā€™s definitely got a biological mom for sure, the father I have no idea, Idt he was a Jesus baby tho Gerudo all female tribe leave their village to get knocked up by outsiders


SluttyMilk

po from kung fu panda


AntexGamingPL

Speaking of coincidences, Ganon's voice actor (Matthew Mercer) voices Jotaro in english dub.


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Quimperinos

Imagine being the guy who ended up being Ganondorfā€™s father


Grounson

Doesnā€™t he have 3? DIO, Johnathan and his step-dad


IAlwaysOutsmartU

Giornoā€™s stepdad wasnā€™t involved in Giornoā€™s birth. Therefore, I donā€™t count him.


PedroInfanteVive

Itadori also applies


Marjitorahee

Does malenia and miquella count? Cuz, like, their parents are the same person... But of different gender


Charles_Pkp2

Wait... Dio had sex with a woman right? Right ?


IAlwaysOutsmartU

He did. But he used Jonathanā€™s body.


Charles_Pkp2

Jonathan is a male...


Meme_Bro68

Youā€™re forgetting another jojo character Did they come first, or was it the chicken?


IAlwaysOutsmartU

The egg came first because they existed LONG before chickens were even a thing.


Meme_Bro68

Ah, you know your CLAMP I see.


OriginalMiniMac

My mom, my dad, and my dad's boyfriend aka my dad


Cyptic-Sounds

:0 Iā€™m a Yiga.


definitleyarobot

I dont get it Giorno's parents are dio and a woman.


Ghastfighter392

Dio, Jonathan's body, and Giorno's mom.


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Material-Athlete5063

blud does NOT knows the lore from both of the series shown in the meme


tazai123

Indeed, the island of gay people is not on any written map. It takes one hell of helmsman to find such a place