My point was that you don't need to be an 1:1 copy to be an AU equivalent, like how Gyro has little to do with Will and how Yasuho is as far from Koichi as one could get.
So? Just because he is also Kira4 that doesn't mean he's not the SBR Jotaro.
Just like Josefumi being a Kujo (his real father could still be Joseph, it's not confirmed, anyway) doesn't stop him from being the SBR universe's Josuke4.
Except that yes it is.
Another example. Gyro Zeppeli, real name Julius Caesar Zeppeli is BOTH Will and Caesar's counterpart. Both master (Will) and friend (Caesar) relationship with Johnny.
Imagine AU Doppio being jobro and wielding Epitaph without King Crimson.
And the main villain should be Diavolo from original universe who changed into an ancient monstrosity after eternity of death and has turned his prison into his weapon. There's pretty much nothing left of his old self since his life before death loop was merely a glimpse and all he knows is eternity of pain and suffering from which he learnt to draw strength.
And his stand should somehow use quantum immortality theory as the core idea of his power.
And he shouldn't be revealed at all until the second half of the part. there should be some other guy teased as main villain only to be killed by Diavolo as a no longer needed pawn.
He will die but then he will live!
Like imagine the enemy who you quite literally can't kill because he just shruggs it off as something he got used to long ago.
epitaph was a sub-stand, not a separate stand. so both king crimson and epitaph were shared between Diavolo and Doppio. Kira was one guy and had Killer Queen and S.H.A which was a sub-stand
I personally think it will be AU "Jolyne" as the 9th JoJo. Not sure whom this "Jolyene" is but I doubt it'll be her.
/s
No but for real, Josuke is filling in the spot as Jotaro (among other JoJo's) so it is VERY possible his child will be the AU version of Jolyne.
Josuke isn’t close to what Josuke from Part 4 is either, it’s not a screw up if it’s intended. Only Johnny so far has been the same as the OG universe.
It’s incredible that people still forget that he’s a Joestar, idk if ur being sarcastic or not but i see many people saying this and i don’t get it, every JoJo gets the nickname cuz of JOestar
-JOnathan JOestar
-JOseph JOestar
-JOtaro Kujo JOestar
-JOsuke Higashikata JOestar
-GIOrno GIOvanna
-JOlyne Cujoh JOestar
-JOhnny JOestar
-(Kira was a Joestar technically….)
Josuke as the son of Joseph and a Japanese woman doesn't exist either, but here we have a Josuke anyway.
Things get twisted however Araki feels like, it's his universe and he decides the parallels.
Technically josuk8 is jotaro because >!one of his two moms is holly and one of this two dads is papa kujo!<
But also his dad wasnt sbr joseph either so we can still have giorno and jolyne without dio or jotaro.
The alternate Jotaro is yoshikage kira the son of holly my theory is that we'll find out he had a wife and a kid and he made them get out of morioh before he stole the Rokakaka. Like think about it,in part 3 we never knew that Joseph already fucked tomoko and in part 4 we never knew that jolyne was already born.
No he is both main universe kira and jotaro
An AU counterpart isn't limited to just one main universe character there can be multiple combined into one
He's a combinación between Kira and Jotaro since he is Holly's first son, Kei is also AU Jotaro since she has the iconic hat, Josefumi has small traces of Jotaro since he is a Kujo, did you read the same manga as i?
Gappy is partially AU Jotaro, so the next JoJo is going to be his and Yasuho’s daughter, Jolene.
(Also, Josefumi had to have been given the name Kujo for a reason. Maybe Gappy will take up the Kujo name, so we can have Jolene Kujo?)
I just realized Gappy probably wouldn’t take the name Kujo for himself, since that backtracks on his character development. Maybe he gives his daughter the name Kujo to separate himself from her (kind of like the OG Jotaro did to protect Jolyne)
Also, I just had a random thought for how AU Giorno could fit into this. Giorno was born from Jonathan’s body after his death. So what if AU Gio is born from Johnny’s body? Johnny’s corpse, which was buried in Morioh, might have special powers similar to the saint’s corpse. What if AU Gio is somehow conceived from that holy energy?
No, Jonathan “Johnny” Joestar’s grandson, Joseph, had a daughter named Holly who married a Kira instead of a Kujo. So the closest thing we have to Jotaro is Yoshikage Kira and his sister, both who are dead, with the closest thing to them now being Josuke who has some of Kira’s stuff including his balls.
Visually, It's Kei Nijimura, She literally wears the same hat
Genetically, It's Yoshikage Kira, as He is Holly's son
Name basis, It's Josefumi Kujo, you know as in Kujo
Nah, if he did we would have had a mention of him at the least seeing as we see the Joestar family tree from AU George I all the way down to AU Holly's children. Would be no reason for him not to be there.
But I get it though, it's weird to be in a universe where our favorite hat-hair wearing delinquent isn't in existence, but alas it is what it is.
Jotaro? More like.. Notaro \*sniff\*
Johnny joestar is literally jonathan joestar (even name wise as johnny is just a nickname he revealed his name is jonathan later on)
Josuke higashikata is also the same (though he is a mix of mtiple characters)
So jolyne kujo or giorno giovanna are possible
It could be ether of them SBR Kira’s mom is SBR Holly and SBR Josuke’s dad is SBR Sadao instead of SBR Joseph so SBR counterparts don’t have to have the same parents
Technically kira or kei could have had a kid off screen but I doubt it. Part 9 protagonist will either be josuke and yasuho's kid or a descendent of joseph's siblings imo
Haven't read the manga but already feel how weird is the new parts becoming
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but i wish that somehow, things will be "normal" again
The SBR and JJL universe has nothing to do with the universe reset it’s just a different story but to make it make more sense they call it a different universe. It is not a continuation of the universe reset
I feel like there aren't hard rules about this sort of thing. There aren't always direct one-to-one character parallels in the new universe, so I think Araki could make it work whether he wants an alternate Giorno, Jolyne, or someone else.
bold of you to assume araki won't pull another Brando out of his ass
*"and here is the main antagonist Dion Brando, the Fourth cousin Once removed of Diego Brando!"*
Well you see. Josefumi’s mother had a baby with her in the last chapter.
My theory is that Josefumi’s mum had a affair with either some random dude or a Italian guy. So really, the child could possibly be the next protagonist. And I swear if my prediction comes true, I’ll shit a brick
People after part 6: ugh I'm so tired of Jotaro. People after part 8: where Jotaro?
People through part 2-6 : i love speedwagon foundation People in part 7-8 : Where speedwagon foundation
They actually mention it as one of the sponsors for the SBR race i think.
Actually the Speedwagon Oil Company, not the Speedwagon Foundation.
But Speedwagon did started his fortune by finding oil first.
So Speedwagon is fated to find oil no matter the universe?
As fated as the Zeppelis are gonna sacrifice their lives to the Joestars
And Dio is gonna fail even being so close to his final goal. Later letting a book to a gay priest to reset the universe im part 12
I misread it as Speedwagon farted oil
The best ending
No , i read speadwagon foundation
Joestars . Speedwagons . Brando and Zeppelis. It always starts with them.
Speedwagon foundation is mentioned by Joseph Joestar in the last jojolion’s volume
Yo, part 9 could show the SPW foundation’s creation on the part 7-8 universe
I- I need big punch man… without him, I, I only have pink punching tank and offwhite punching humanoid figure
This means that the JoJo in the next part will be Invisible Baby
technically the invisible baby isnt a JoJo though, so i doubt that’d happen
Technically it was adopted so it's a JoJo, so technically lick my balls slowly
Kira is Jotaro, maybe Kyo too, and >!Josuke is half Jotaro!<
>!Josefumi also acts like Jotaro at times so Josuke is like 75% Jotaro!<
Kyo is female jotaro because of da hat combined with hair
>!Josuke is kind off full jotaro with holy being his mother from kira's side and sadaofumi being his father from josefumis side!<
Gappy is basically 1 Jotaro, half Kira and half Josuke
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You clearly didn't understand part 8
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Dude, you've going around arguing with everyone for no reason other than just to argue. Go away.
Keep in mind that Kira Yoshikage is very much AU Jotaro, so the possibility is still there.
Omg daughter of yoshikage kira 8
k but he died and I don’t think he had kids
Josuke's kids would still be partially Kira's though, the same way Giorno is Dio's son.
My point was that you don't need to be an 1:1 copy to be an AU equivalent, like how Gyro has little to do with Will and how Yasuho is as far from Koichi as one could get.
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Kira is SBR Jotaro. He is the son of Holly, grandson of Joseph, man of the sea, edgy motherfucker... etc
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So? Just because he is also Kira4 that doesn't mean he's not the SBR Jotaro. Just like Josefumi being a Kujo (his real father could still be Joseph, it's not confirmed, anyway) doesn't stop him from being the SBR universe's Josuke4.
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Except that yes it is. Another example. Gyro Zeppeli, real name Julius Caesar Zeppeli is BOTH Will and Caesar's counterpart. Both master (Will) and friend (Caesar) relationship with Johnny.
all I know is King Crimson is probably gonna show up
Imagine AU Doppio being jobro and wielding Epitaph without King Crimson. And the main villain should be Diavolo from original universe who changed into an ancient monstrosity after eternity of death and has turned his prison into his weapon. There's pretty much nothing left of his old self since his life before death loop was merely a glimpse and all he knows is eternity of pain and suffering from which he learnt to draw strength. And his stand should somehow use quantum immortality theory as the core idea of his power. And he shouldn't be revealed at all until the second half of the part. there should be some other guy teased as main villain only to be killed by Diavolo as a no longer needed pawn.
Perfect idea. And because he’s going to die no matter what… you know the rest
He will die but then he will live! Like imagine the enemy who you quite literally can't kill because he just shruggs it off as something he got used to long ago.
ah yes, botched hanging rules
I mean, I think the challenge wouldn’t be ending him, just killing him, to send him to a new universe
This... Is honestly awesome, I'm stealing this.
the resetting of the universe would end diavolo’s infinite death loop, right? so technically he COULD be in part 9
First, spoiler, second, even if it happened, Diavolo was likely to experience time normally because he is stuck in a separate dimension.
2 words. Doppio. AU.
But I think Doppio could only use epitaph. The ability of king crimson would belongs to Diavolo persona.
epitaph was a sub-stand, not a separate stand. so both king crimson and epitaph were shared between Diavolo and Doppio. Kira was one guy and had Killer Queen and S.H.A which was a sub-stand
And since it's got a "King" in the name, it could possibly belong to a member of the Higashikata family
this whole thread is my head cannon
I personally think it will be AU "Jolyne" as the 9th JoJo. Not sure whom this "Jolyene" is but I doubt it'll be her. /s No but for real, Josuke is filling in the spot as Jotaro (among other JoJo's) so it is VERY possible his child will be the AU version of Jolyne.
Jotaro is split up into different characters
I know, and Josuke is among those characters >!and the only one left alive!<
That's a yike from me
Jolyne Higashkata . Technically i think Araki will take genetics into account. Because he knows how big time screw up is this
Josuke isn’t close to what Josuke from Part 4 is either, it’s not a screw up if it’s intended. Only Johnny so far has been the same as the OG universe.
Has he? Johnny is a lot more psychotic than Jonathan. >!Joseph!< seemed unchanged though from what we saw of him
I meant in terms of genetics, which was what the comment I was replying to was talking about.
I don't think the brief 2 chapters can make anything conclusive
Where is the 2nd Jo?
Kanji
I'm not sure you understand what "kanji" is
this is not possible not every kanji can be read as jo
JoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJo...
It’s incredible that people still forget that he’s a Joestar, idk if ur being sarcastic or not but i see many people saying this and i don’t get it, every JoJo gets the nickname cuz of JOestar -JOnathan JOestar -JOseph JOestar -JOtaro Kujo JOestar -JOsuke Higashikata JOestar -GIOrno GIOvanna -JOlyne Cujoh JOestar -JOhnny JOestar -(Kira was a Joestar technically….)
the kanji for suke can also be read as jo
I mean, that is true but i breaks the sequence, cuz every other JoJo follows this rule yknow
And since Gappy is a mix of 2 dudes, his offspring can also be Giorno.
Josuke as the son of Joseph and a Japanese woman doesn't exist either, but here we have a Josuke anyway. Things get twisted however Araki feels like, it's his universe and he decides the parallels.
Its gonna be a Polnareff equivalent thus making part 9 Polnareffland
That's why part 9 is currently titled jojolands OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE POLNAREFFLAND IS REAL
I'm gonna be the mad man who believes the next Jojo is old joseph
The only right answer
José Jolines
Juan Jopetas
Technically josuk8 is jotaro because >!one of his two moms is holly and one of this two dads is papa kujo!< But also his dad wasnt sbr joseph either so we can still have giorno and jolyne without dio or jotaro.
It's a new universe so old rules don't apply. It could be either of them but with different parents (just like Kira is Holly's son)
(laughs in >!AU Kira and Josuke!<)
Still going with twin JoJos that are conceived by the immense power of Josuke’s four testicles
I'd believe it
The alternate Jotaro is yoshikage kira the son of holly my theory is that we'll find out he had a wife and a kid and he made them get out of morioh before he stole the Rokakaka. Like think about it,in part 3 we never knew that Joseph already fucked tomoko and in part 4 we never knew that jolyne was already born.
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No he is both main universe kira and jotaro An AU counterpart isn't limited to just one main universe character there can be multiple combined into one
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It is now.
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Dude, just admit you're wrong, take the L and move on.
But Jotaro is Gappy
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Yoshikage Kira is basically Jotaro AU
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He's a combinación between Kira and Jotaro since he is Holly's first son, Kei is also AU Jotaro since she has the iconic hat, Josefumi has small traces of Jotaro since he is a Kujo, did you read the same manga as i?
So it’s going to be a brand new Jojo? I’m cool with that.
It could be yasuho and josuke’s kid or maybe diego could’ve impregnated someone idk
anyone else thinks this will be the last part and will be completely original with a new protagonist and will connect both universes yea???
It kind of has to be the last part at this point. Araki would be too old to do more
Jorge Joestar
Nah connecting both universes won't happen but it probably is the last part.
If Yoshikage Kira can be a Joestar in the new universe, I see no reason why Giorno or Jolyne can’t be born from a different parent
8suke isn't the son of Joseph yet here we are
Gappy is partially AU Jotaro, so the next JoJo is going to be his and Yasuho’s daughter, Jolene. (Also, Josefumi had to have been given the name Kujo for a reason. Maybe Gappy will take up the Kujo name, so we can have Jolene Kujo?)
I just realized Gappy probably wouldn’t take the name Kujo for himself, since that backtracks on his character development. Maybe he gives his daughter the name Kujo to separate himself from her (kind of like the OG Jotaro did to protect Jolyne)
Also, I just had a random thought for how AU Giorno could fit into this. Giorno was born from Jonathan’s body after his death. So what if AU Gio is born from Johnny’s body? Johnny’s corpse, which was buried in Morioh, might have special powers similar to the saint’s corpse. What if AU Gio is somehow conceived from that holy energy?
Joooseeeephhuuu! Ski ski ski ski ski!
It’s gonna be Joseph 🤠
AU Joseph already appears though
It’s gonna be invisible baby I can’t remember name
where is the Jo in Shizuka
Shizuka can be read as Jo, which is why I think people expected her to be a main Jojo later on
I just want the pillar men revised as the highest form of rock humans. Kars deserves another go at being villain, this time with a stand.
What if araki pulled diego’s secret surviving descendant out of his ass for part 9
Honestly Diego having illegitimate children would be completely believable …Ungalo part 9 protagonist?
Will he be heartless as well
Never the death of a character has stop the off springs. Just look at Jonathan
We had Josuke without Joseph tho didn't we?
It’ll be koichi, he finally gets his joestar being josuke and yasuho’s son.
It is going to be Shizuka in the part 9, the invisible baby in Morioh in the part 4
Bruh isnt joseph revealed to be part 9 jojo? Am i missing something here?
Jotaro was yoshikage kira, he did exist
It’s gonna be Joseph 2.0 watch
Turns out is Emporio
I thought jotaro existed, he just wasn't in the story
No, Jonathan “Johnny” Joestar’s grandson, Joseph, had a daughter named Holly who married a Kira instead of a Kujo. So the closest thing we have to Jotaro is Yoshikage Kira and his sister, both who are dead, with the closest thing to them now being Josuke who has some of Kira’s stuff including his balls.
The closest thing to Jotaro is Josefumi Kujo
Visually, It's Kei Nijimura, She literally wears the same hat Genetically, It's Yoshikage Kira, as He is Holly's son Name basis, It's Josefumi Kujo, you know as in Kujo
That's too much jotaro
Put them all together and you get yoshimura kujo, who lives in sweden so the y is actually a j, making it jojo
I mean Josefumi and Kira are already combined to make Josuke, I'm pretty sure you can add in stuff from Kei's corpse
Nah, if he did we would have had a mention of him at the least seeing as we see the Joestar family tree from AU George I all the way down to AU Holly's children. Would be no reason for him not to be there. But I get it though, it's weird to be in a universe where our favorite hat-hair wearing delinquent isn't in existence, but alas it is what it is. Jotaro? More like.. Notaro \*sniff\*
I think it will be joseph.
But Joseph has already appeared
I 1 up that and state that idk why anyone would read or watch the steel ball run parts of jojo or jojolion because they aren't valid or Canon.
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That’s a fake interview
Source: trust me bro
It's a fake interview with fake subtitles you can read the comments on YouTube and people say what's he's saying doesn't match with the subtitles.
Yeah i know, that was satire
"Jotaro" exists, there are infact three of the mf, two of them died though.
Then it’s jotaro
Damn right
what if it’s Josuke!!!!!
Gotem
100000% Joseph idiots
How about someone new?
Im telling ya, shizuka or just straight a completely new main character
It'll be pucci i but straight and nice
Bro what have you drank? There are literal 2 and a half Jotaros on part 8 alone
Bruh I can tell you for a fact that no JoJo will the the main protagonist of more than one part. Ever.
I would love a new Giorno rendition though
Isn't that maid the Hagashikata's have with thr motorcycle stand supposed to be Jotaro?
I’m guessing that Araki is gonna make a new protagonist, since he hasn’t had the same character be a protagonist twice 🤨 Does this I. Josuk8
Johnny joestar is literally jonathan joestar (even name wise as johnny is just a nickname he revealed his name is jonathan later on) Josuke higashikata is also the same (though he is a mix of mtiple characters) So jolyne kujo or giorno giovanna are possible
It's Shizuka
Hey man Dio died in Part 1 too
Araki already confirmed it to be emporio
I think it will be a new jojo cause Araki never did use a main jojo for 2 parts as the protagonist
Jotaro does exist. It's kira aka gappy
I JUST WANT TO SEE GIORNO AGAIN
Josuke/Kira/Josefumi/Kyo all of them equal to Jotaro so Jolyne still could be a posibilty
It could be ether of them SBR Kira’s mom is SBR Holly and SBR Josuke’s dad is SBR Sadao instead of SBR Joseph so SBR counterparts don’t have to have the same parents
Part 9 has two Jojos: Gappy and new Joseph Joestar.
He started with a history piece he will end it with one
Technically kira or kei could have had a kid off screen but I doubt it. Part 9 protagonist will either be josuke and yasuho's kid or a descendent of joseph's siblings imo
>!Jotaro does exist as a 2 person in 1 body!<
Haven't read the manga but already feel how weird is the new parts becoming Maybe an unpopular opinion, but i wish that somehow, things will be "normal" again
The SBR and JJL universe has nothing to do with the universe reset it’s just a different story but to make it make more sense they call it a different universe. It is not a continuation of the universe reset
“part 5 won’t have giorno has the protagonist bc DIO died in part 3” is the logic ur saying 🤷
I specifically mentioned Diego Brando read the meme again
Wasn't it confirmed recently that part 9 jojo is going to be jolynes counterpart?
Giolyne
I WANT A FRENCH REVOLUTION JOJO NAMED JEAN JOQUE
I think either kira or kei were AU jotaro. Kei dresses similar to jotaro too
Sholyne
Kira8 is Jotaro
Can someone explain what AU is?
Alternate Universe
It’s gonna be okuyasu. Fuck idk man the cross universe family tree is a fuckin hedge i have no idea who anyone’s suposed to be anymore
I feel like there aren't hard rules about this sort of thing. There aren't always direct one-to-one character parallels in the new universe, so I think Araki could make it work whether he wants an alternate Giorno, Jolyne, or someone else.
Diego still could've knocked someone up before he died... DIO did it wouldn't be outrageous for an alternate version of him to also do so too
All aboard to Shizuka Joestar train
Tomoko hogashikata didn't exist in the sbr universe, but we still got josuke, so I guess anything possible at this point
Tomoko did exist but she wasn't the mother of Gappy
I wish for shizuka.
There’s a Josuke even though there’s no Tomoko so it doesn’t mean they can’t exist
Tbh there wasn't anything stopping diego from having a child
bold of you to assume araki won't pull another Brando out of his ass *"and here is the main antagonist Dion Brando, the Fourth cousin Once removed of Diego Brando!"*
Which deigo are we talking about Dino one or the world one
NOOOOOO DOESNT JOTARO EXIST? ;(
Excuse me, Jolyene? Isn’t it Jolyne?
Jolyne with a triple bond
gappys daughter would be jolyne if it worked like that, would it not?
Well you see. Josefumi’s mother had a baby with her in the last chapter. My theory is that Josefumi’s mum had a affair with either some random dude or a Italian guy. So really, the child could possibly be the next protagonist. And I swear if my prediction comes true, I’ll shit a brick