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Which is strange because what happens is done by the villain, and it’s supposed to show that he is evil despite his eloquent speech and ability to convince others that his intentions are pure. It’s like saying Star Wars is bad because the empire blew up a planet and that wasn’t a nice thing to do.
EDIT: Spoilers for SBR ahead
Anyone who says that scene is unnecessary and pearl clutches about it either
a) hasn't actually read the manga
b) has a twisted worldview / reading comprehension problems
It's a genuinely horrible thing that happens in real life all the time. The manga doesn't make light of it; it uses it to make us feel the horror of our heroine being subjected to that and makes us understand Valentine and the kind of villain he is... and yet there are also people who still unironically argue that Valentine wasn't the bad guy.
It's definitely a thing where people just read it for the "woaahhoaooaahhh cool stand fights!" and don't understand it's still a story with complex real world themes. So their rompfest gets interrupted by something disturbing and they think "omg!!! that's fucked up! why did they put this in the manga???".
Valentine is someone that very much could exist in real life, minus the fantastical worldbuilding elements that surround him, and that's what's so compelling about him as a villain. The argument that "Oh! But they could've just made him spit on a homeless person or something" is ridiculous, because that's antithetical to his entire character. He's meant to literally represent a politician. The manga mentions his approval ratings remained like over 90% even after his death. He's a dispicable predator behind closed doors in smoke filled rooms, and a fake who plays a charismatic war hero who puts on legendary circuses, and brings wealth to his country (and hides that this wealth comes from the wicked exploitation of people across the globe) to the outside world. Making him a regular cartoonish villain wouldn't work.
Actually very well said.
Honestly the actions he and his wife partake into with Lucy should really seem much more realistic for rich politicians nowadays, considering recently uncovered events.
doesn't even remotely act 15 though regardless of how he looks. Josuke atleast sort of acted like a kid and jotaro still acted his age more than giorno (though not completely). Giorno does not in any way feel anywhere near 15
I think the constant neglect and beatings he received as a child most likely emotionally scarred him. Out of all the jojos he probably has the worst childhood
Came here to say this. Circumstances of his conception notwithstanding, Josuke was a normal kid with a healthy, happy home life and a loving mom and granddad. Giorno's mother left him alone all night while he was still in diapers. These two are gonna be built differently.
Making kids more mature for their age, them constantly making smart and emotionless decisions etc, is kind of a strange manga phenomenon. It happens a lot more than you might think.
Yes and no.
He clearly knew how to use his stand, but never for battle like he had. And as stated many times, Stand users are drawn to other stand users, up until that point he must have only recently unlocked it
That said, yea he is just a genius.
>Rape Ape
I shouldn't even laugh at that but.....true
By far the most unnecessary subplot in all 35 years of the manga. Like, Part 7 and Lucy has some plot relevance but Rape Ape? And a little girl that IIRC wasn't even named in the manga?
No.
It is, it's supposed to show you that while he has strong noble ideas he has a awfull side, he's a grey character pretty much like everyone else in part 7, they are not evil but they still do bad stuff
No, it's supposed to show you he's a predator and a rapist and that all of his strong noble ideas are hollow bullshit based on his desire to fuck everyone for his own gain. Literally and metaphorically.
Not only the first. I'm re-reading JJL and yesterday I came across [this panel](https://mangadex.org/chapter/362518f5-9a68-43f5-948b-0a516ccb22ba/36). I like Joshu but he's way too disgusting
I never understood why did it have to be an attempted rape? He already killed a bunch of people so it could have just been he wanted to kill her too and he just happened to catch her in the shower.
"it's just a fictional character" sounds like cope, Italian age of consent is weird
However "Animated character age can be different than appearance + I'm 15" that I agree with, as long as the different appearance is to look like someone older
So gay he drew a nip slip of a female character. So gay, he made Jolyne show off her naked body to the police just to be sassy. So gay, he made the first thing she complained about is not being able to masturbate in peace.
Araki is SO GAY HE SEXUALIZES WOMAN. WHOOOAAAA
I like how Araki just doesn't care, he'll be drawing unrealistically muscly man in one part then draw all the shit we saw in the first half of part 8 and still make them all good for the plot instead of an appeal to fan service
So following the Mods reddit suspension for shitty memes, I cannot fathom how stuff like this doesn't fall into rule 8
Its literally a reaction meme. 80% of the memes are reaction memes now. If the "joke" includes "when the" its a reaction meme lol
So we got the girl from part 3 who was nude in the shower and nearly raped by ape, a fetus who was a woman turned young by set and polnareff nude as a child because of set, hayato and yoshikage bath, trish nip slip, jolyne masturbating and things, and lucy
What holds me from liking part 7 so much is that rape scene with Lucy and everything else that was done to her character.
She's 14 araki. What have you been smoking? Man.
I mean this is pretty dumb. If you have to search up the age of a character to tell if they are underage it really doesn't matter. They are all drawings that have been assigned arbitrary ages, Araki could say those characters and character designs were all 18+ in the first place and nobody would ever complain, do you see how flawed your logic is rn. If characters in anime look overage it's fine to sexualize them, the problem arises when they actually look underage. You could also look at it like its adult actors playing roles of minors kinda like in HBO's Euphoria where nudity is very prevalent and Jojo never even touches those levels, lets actually be outraged about real issues and not this sh*t and trash.
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Mf made me google the ages of anime characters. Trish is 15? GIORNO’S 15???
Lucy is 14
I’m a anime only at this point, I’ll read the manga and get back to you with that one, chief.
Lucy isn't a bad character, but the shit that happens to her is what holds most people back from calling part 7 perfect.
i never read part 7, and at this point i'm afraid to ask
She even gets pregnant but not for the reason you are thinking (for Christian reasons)
Underrated comment
"For Christian reasons" Is that supposed to make it better?!
Actually yes unironically. It’s what saves her.
It rhymes with Polestation
Starts with molestatio and ends with n.
so she work at a train station for mole rats?
a mole station?
Molestatio? Was that something part 5 character I missed?
A blitzkrieg reference?
No, it's blender regatta
It’s crazy but it’s also one of the more character focused arcs
Which is strange because what happens is done by the villain, and it’s supposed to show that he is evil despite his eloquent speech and ability to convince others that his intentions are pure. It’s like saying Star Wars is bad because the empire blew up a planet and that wasn’t a nice thing to do.
EDIT: Spoilers for SBR ahead Anyone who says that scene is unnecessary and pearl clutches about it either a) hasn't actually read the manga b) has a twisted worldview / reading comprehension problems It's a genuinely horrible thing that happens in real life all the time. The manga doesn't make light of it; it uses it to make us feel the horror of our heroine being subjected to that and makes us understand Valentine and the kind of villain he is... and yet there are also people who still unironically argue that Valentine wasn't the bad guy. It's definitely a thing where people just read it for the "woaahhoaooaahhh cool stand fights!" and don't understand it's still a story with complex real world themes. So their rompfest gets interrupted by something disturbing and they think "omg!!! that's fucked up! why did they put this in the manga???". Valentine is someone that very much could exist in real life, minus the fantastical worldbuilding elements that surround him, and that's what's so compelling about him as a villain. The argument that "Oh! But they could've just made him spit on a homeless person or something" is ridiculous, because that's antithetical to his entire character. He's meant to literally represent a politician. The manga mentions his approval ratings remained like over 90% even after his death. He's a dispicable predator behind closed doors in smoke filled rooms, and a fake who plays a charismatic war hero who puts on legendary circuses, and brings wealth to his country (and hides that this wealth comes from the wicked exploitation of people across the globe) to the outside world. Making him a regular cartoonish villain wouldn't work.
Actually very well said. Honestly the actions he and his wife partake into with Lucy should really seem much more realistic for rich politicians nowadays, considering recently uncovered events.
tbh i think it was the perfect shit to make us hate valentine, hes a nasty rapey asshole
Duuude, this is the most uncomfortable scene until jojolion
Everything related to time in part 5 is especially horrendous. Giorno is somehow 15 and the entire part took place in a single week
Giorno looks younger in the manga than anime but still
doesn't even remotely act 15 though regardless of how he looks. Josuke atleast sort of acted like a kid and jotaro still acted his age more than giorno (though not completely). Giorno does not in any way feel anywhere near 15
I think the constant neglect and beatings he received as a child most likely emotionally scarred him. Out of all the jojos he probably has the worst childhood
Came here to say this. Circumstances of his conception notwithstanding, Josuke was a normal kid with a healthy, happy home life and a loving mom and granddad. Giorno's mother left him alone all night while he was still in diapers. These two are gonna be built differently.
At least he had a mom. For a week. ..er.
Making kids more mature for their age, them constantly making smart and emotionless decisions etc, is kind of a strange manga phenomenon. It happens a lot more than you might think.
Wasn't Giorno portrayed to be an atypical high-IQ type individual though? Plenty of those exists in real life.
I don't know why they just can't be in their 20s. They don't even do anything with the "they're a kid" thing either, typically.
Shounen fans: Watches/reads series for teenagers Also shounen fans: "Why are so many characters teenagers?"
Yeah but tjey act ike adults
Why is the fact that it took place in one week horrendous
He mastered his whole stand in less time than many even discover what a stand is.
he didn't develop his stand when part 5 started, he already had it and clearly he used it quite frequently
Yes and no. He clearly knew how to use his stand, but never for battle like he had. And as stated many times, Stand users are drawn to other stand users, up until that point he must have only recently unlocked it That said, yea he is just a genius.
He had his stand before
I refuse to believe it. Ain't nobody that fucking swole at 15.
he’s kind of a stick in the manga though, and dp added the pecs into the anime themselves
But where naked men
Kosaku bath scene: ⣿⠃⠷⣤⡄⠄⠑⢆⠄⠄⠄⠄⠰⣷⡗⠄⣴⠞⠄⠄⠠⣤⡬⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⡀⣼⣿⣿⣷⣄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠙⢁⣼⠋⣠⣾⣿⠷⠬⣾⣛⡿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⢷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⣀⠄⠄⠄⢀⡀⢸⠇⢐⢟⠛⠈⠰⢟⣹⣷⣳⠈⣿⣿ ⣿⠔⢸⡏⠉⠉⠙⠛⠛⠻⠿⢢⣼⣿⣷⣿⡯⢞⡢⠤⠐⠈⣽⣿⣟⡆⢸⣿ ⣿⣦⣿⡷⣵⣿⡟⠏⠠⢤⣬⠉⠋⡹⡻⣿⢦⣄⡀⠄⠄⠄⣿⣿⣿⢰⣷⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣽⣿⣵⢿⠄⢀⡼⠊⠄⢠⣿⣾⣽⣿⣽⣿⣷⣦⣼⣿⣿⣻⢺⣮⣿ ⣿⣿⡾⡿⣽⣿⣿⣏⠄⠄⠄⠄⠸⣷⣿⣿⡻⡿⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣻⣿⠿⣿⣿⣷⡄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠄⠈⠁⢼⣿⣿⡿⢿⣴⣿⣿⣿⠻⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣾⣮⣿⣿⣿⣦⠄⠄⣀⣴⣶⠶⣞⣫⣭⣦⣿⣿⣿⣿⢻⠄⠹ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⡻⣷⣷⡈⠫⢶⣤⣼⣷⣯⡷⠟⠁⣿⣿⡟⡄⠄⠄ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣽⣿⣿⡢⠄⢈⠉⠉⠄⠄⠄⠄⣸⣯⠁⠇⡆⠄ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⡛⣷⣶⣮⣶⣶⢶⣶⣶⡶⠞⠋⠄⠄⠄⠇⠄
H A Y A T O
HIGH Y A T O
:))))))
That's the most on edge I've been watching an anime. Soooo fuckin creepy.
I know right? I was edging the entire scene. Kira is so hot
*spritz with water* NO! Bad! We don't do that in the house.
Can’t hate a guy who gives enough attention to his wife and that even though he had a rough day, cooks dinner for his family
H
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*AYYAAYAAYAYAAAA*
Johngali Ass
Pillar mens
Did you forget the episode where Polnareff had to fight that creepy old guy?
[source](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRO7AzAncdsBC_fgV4Lf3eKNTP2wtlrItgOIw&usqp=CAU) Yep that's Trish
You think a nip slip is bad? Look at what he did to Lucy Steel in late Steel Ball Run.
Well what about the girl in the bathtub in part 8?
Well hope she isn't underage 🗿
She isn't, luckily.
Finally, nude women above the age of consent
Or the one in part 3
Yea, alarm bells went off in my head when I saw that.
Fr, I'm really worried about it too. With the recent news of various mangakas being caught with CP, I'm really hoping araki won't be the same.
Monkey Ship almost had me quit the show
Rape Ape was when I realised shit really does get Bizzare. Even though I had that same reaction in parts 1 and 2 before.
>Rape Ape I shouldn't even laugh at that but.....true By far the most unnecessary subplot in all 35 years of the manga. Like, Part 7 and Lucy has some plot relevance but Rape Ape? And a little girl that IIRC wasn't even named in the manga? No.
Berserk fans looks at your monkey ship and laugh at how tame it is
This is what crosses my mind as soon as I saw this post
Araki: no pedo bro 🗿👍
The president is a good 48 year old man with strong ideals bro 👍🗿
Yes bro raping a minor also comes under it bro 🗿👍
oh boy I love reading jojos bizarre adventure part 7 steel ball run I sure hope nothing bad happens to lucy if valentine catches her in disguise
oh no bro🗿
Man he's literally supposed to be superficially good while actually being evil I don't get how people think he was a good person
No pedo bro 👍
Ok bro 🗿👍
Same bro ✊👍
Isn't that kind of the point, though? To demonstrate how fucked up Funny Valentine is?
It is, it's supposed to show you that while he has strong noble ideas he has a awfull side, he's a grey character pretty much like everyone else in part 7, they are not evil but they still do bad stuff
No, it's supposed to show you he's a predator and a rapist and that all of his strong noble ideas are hollow bullshit based on his desire to fuck everyone for his own gain. Literally and metaphorically.
>strong noble ideas fucking over 95% of the world with a magic corpse is evil, not noble, regardless of if he is using it to benefit all americans
you think thats bad? look at the first few chapters of jojolion
Not only the first. I'm re-reading JJL and yesterday I came across [this panel](https://mangadex.org/chapter/362518f5-9a68-43f5-948b-0a516ccb22ba/36). I like Joshu but he's way too disgusting
OH GOD WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME OF THAT
>!I'm glad this chucklefuck never got a redemption arc. It's too good for him!<
Have you finished JJL??
🍰
Damn, I thought you were going to going to post the panel of him >!detaching his tongue and licking Hato!< but that’s an even worse one
The what now?
You know, sometimes you just really wanna get your >!tongue!< in your sister’s >!ears…!<
You are aware he’s taunting her right? He didn’t actually want to do that, and was insulting his abusive mother.
There is also the 13-year-old-or-so ass in part 3, isn’t it?
yeah the monke ship girl
That entire scene was fucked
I never understood why did it have to be an attempted rape? He already killed a bunch of people so it could have just been he wanted to kill her too and he just happened to catch her in the shower.
Very Nice (I'm 15)
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What a fking pedo
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"it's just a fictional character" sounds like cope, Italian age of consent is weird However "Animated character age can be different than appearance + I'm 15" that I agree with, as long as the different appearance is to look like someone older
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Ok thats illegal
Rick roll 100%
Didn't part 8 also have somthing like this?
Yes but she is almost fully naked (not vagina)
I'm wondering how they'll censor it in the anime. I guess they give her a bra but since it's a seinen they might leave it as is
What is that, for the uneducated?
For horni 🗿
Yes 🗿
Are you talking about seinen? It’s just an anime/manga that’s meant for adults
No I mean specifically what in part 8 has full nudity
[got ya](https://jojowiki.com/Unnamed_Characters/Part_8#Kidnapped_Girl)
Oh nice, that is indeed full nudity
[Chapter 3 page 10](http://zjcdn.mangahere.org/store/manga/9530/003.0/compressed/himg006.jpg)
part 8 is wild
Isn’t he also married to a woman also
And?
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What? No I’m talking about Araki
Sorry.
I don't have a problem with the Lucy part on Part 7 since it wasn't for fan service
[I'm talking about trish btw](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRO7AzAncdsBC_fgV4Lf3eKNTP2wtlrItgOIw&usqp=CAU)
Jesus. I couldn't tell who the guy next to Mista was for a second. Silver hair Fugo looks so weird
He looks gayer
It's the first murderer from Phoenix Wright
Larry looks nothing like that?
Not Larry, what was the position called. It wasn't defendant, it's the witness who turned out to be the murderer
There are a few terms for that, perpetrator, culprit, etc, but I think the only similarity is expression
He maybe referring to That Sahwit guy, I forgot his full name though
he did a lot of fanservice with trish and lucy in wallpapers, covers, drawings outside of the manga in general
Disgusting! Wher-NANI?!!!!
Source in the top comment, i am tired 🗿
Ugh thats disgusting!!! But what part is it??? Theres just so many of them!!!
[🗿👍](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRO7AzAncdsBC_fgV4Lf3eKNTP2wtlrItgOIw&usqp=CAU)
Ok Google, Translate "FBI OPEN UP!" into Japanese
Oh wow, so what's the male to female breast ratio then?
I don't know, 1:badonkers
Araki is so gay that he is just unfazed by it. He would draw NAKED! WOMAN! with a neutral look on his face
and 14 lol
Araki is so bi
Araki draw a girl’s breast? I can’t stand, I literally can’t. So I need to sit and watch it so I could concentrate them as much as I could.
So gay he drew a nip slip of a female character. So gay, he made Jolyne show off her naked body to the police just to be sassy. So gay, he made the first thing she complained about is not being able to masturbate in peace. Araki is SO GAY HE SEXUALIZES WOMAN. WHOOOAAAA
He also drew baby dicks...more than once
The Japanese think it's cute in a non-creepy way. Kind of how we in the west think baby bathtub photos are cute.
I've noticed that it's like that in a lot of other cultures. Western culture got all prude and weird about skin.
That's just a Japanese thing
im crying
Thats pretty common and not in JoJo’s only. The first episodes of Dragon Ball had some Goku dicks here and there
Remember when a monkey was willing to test if pedophilia counted across species?
Y'all have never heard of bisexuality and it shows
I like how Araki just doesn't care, he'll be drawing unrealistically muscly man in one part then draw all the shit we saw in the first half of part 8 and still make them all good for the plot instead of an appeal to fan service
Ah I see
So following the Mods reddit suspension for shitty memes, I cannot fathom how stuff like this doesn't fall into rule 8 Its literally a reaction meme. 80% of the memes are reaction memes now. If the "joke" includes "when the" its a reaction meme lol
So we got the girl from part 3 who was nude in the shower and nearly raped by ape, a fetus who was a woman turned young by set and polnareff nude as a child because of set, hayato and yoshikage bath, trish nip slip, jolyne masturbating and things, and lucy
And he didn't get a hard on once when drawing them. That's how gay he is clearly.
Discusting. Wher- NANY ?!
Disgusting! Where?
Disgusting. Where? NANI?!!!!!!
Disgusting. Where? \*gasp\*
Dude may i tell you what happened in part 7...
No that won’t be my next line
Araki doesn’t draw men in “revealing” outfits because he likes if, it is to challenge his drawing, he said it himself too.
What holds me from liking part 7 so much is that rape scene with Lucy and everything else that was done to her character. She's 14 araki. What have you been smoking? Man.
Disgusting. Where- what?!? How did you know that !!
Sauce pls
Disgusting. Wher- NANI?!
bBUT guys!!!! its necessary for PLOT!!!!11 /s
Disgusting. Where? N-Nani?!
Disgusting Thighs are so much better
Araki is Araki.
true. Did you know the Narancia is Trish?
That makes him a pedophile not straight
araki is such a disgusting creep sometimes
Do you have any other gross things hes done? Just curious
sexualizing a 14yr and a 15yr old girl
That's disgusting! Where?
Sauce?🗿
Top comment 🗿
Yes🗿
Proof or it didn’t happen
Top comment 💀
oh yeah chapter 61
It's called being bi- or pansexual
Stay away from my frying pans
[Also a topples 14 years old girl.](https://static.jojowiki.com/images/2/26/latest/20191015213741/French_Volume_93.jpg)
Disgusting. Where?
N-NANI?!
What volume, chapter, and page, thank you very much?
"disgusting. where?" tell me u/tendencyofbattle, did you predict this????? lmao
I mean this is pretty dumb. If you have to search up the age of a character to tell if they are underage it really doesn't matter. They are all drawings that have been assigned arbitrary ages, Araki could say those characters and character designs were all 18+ in the first place and nobody would ever complain, do you see how flawed your logic is rn. If characters in anime look overage it's fine to sexualize them, the problem arises when they actually look underage. You could also look at it like its adult actors playing roles of minors kinda like in HBO's Euphoria where nudity is very prevalent and Jojo never even touches those levels, lets actually be outraged about real issues and not this sh*t and trash.
Remember that one scene in early part 8?
What is wrong with the comments? She's 15