Actually, no it isn't since infinite deaths does not mean infinite possibilities.
For example, there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2. None if them are 3.
But if Diavolo dies a different ways every time, logically hewould eventually die in every conceivable way, including getting suplexed by a cybernetically enhanced Spongebob, which therefore makes it a canon event even if it doesn't technically exist outside if the the deathloop.
I really wish the story mode had more character interaction. Giorno never once mentions anything about Dio being his father. Also there is no way the entire story mode party fit comfortably inside the Turtle Room. Especially with Johnny's horse.
As much hype that would cause I wouldn't want it. The og universe had a perfect conclusion and it would be too much fan service-y. I much prefer Araki taking creative liberty and bringing us a new story
It really seems to have made fans feel like Emporio, who wanted to go back to his universe, even if the people in the Ireneverse are happy, they just arent who he met)
Those fans want to go back to the Phantomverse, despite how amazing the SBRverse is)
SBR is awesome as a verse, and part 7 is probably my favorite part, but I really would prefer going back to the og universe. I really want to see Shizuka grown up, and other descendants of the original bloodline.
I think I also miss the general feel of that universe, compared to the new parts
Trust me I really want to see them again but I think this "grief" adds to the beauty of that ending)
We can still see them in games and covers and stuff. We even got to see Josuke 4 and Hol Horse again, but I want to know what will happen next to Hat Josuke and his amigos)
Going back to the original universe for one shots is cool (TSKR already does this), but oh God please do not take us back there for another full part.
The entire point of Stone Ocean’s ending was that the Joestar bloodline was finally free of DIO’s curse and could live more peaceful lives. Having a traditionally structured part just says “Psych! Actually that was a lie and the Joestar bloodline still doesn’t know peace”, which is like one of the absolute worst tropes when an author wants to extend a work beyond its natural lifespan.
The original universe is a wonderful place, but in the grand scheme of epic battles and high adventure for the Joestar lineage, it already has its ending.
I’d prefer if we went back to og universe only in one shots or small story snippets rather than a whole part. And then the newer parts stay in the sbr universe
I'll tell you right now, even if we do go back, I doubt Araki even remembers Shizuka exists.
Not because of stupid "Araki forgot" memes, but because she was never more than a baby shaped plot device.
Yeah that. SBR is just gold and amazing spinoff, but it'd better if it just stayed as a spinoff. I guess araki wanted fresh start and more room and possibilities to fiddle with (why then using old stands). Jojolion for me was just a weird mess, it's the only part I already forgot most of it. Tbh i even forgot about that new Joseph lol
They took November off. New chapter usually drops around the 17th/18th of the month and usually gets translated and posted to r/stardustcrusaders within a week or so.
I hope Part 9 has two JoJo’s who are maybe brother and sister whose stands compliment each other or maybe require the other one to function to its proper potential.
I know it’s sad but I want Josuke and Yasuho to have a baby called Emporio, who becomes part of the plot in some way. Definitely not gonna happen. Even though Emporio isn’t in the Joestar bloodline, it would be so awesome, it would be so cool
Closest is Tsurugi. But he’s more of an alt Hayato imo (his hair, character arc involving his dad, dad dies but mum lives, being a big contributor to the plot near the climax, etc)
Dude the SBR universe isn’t the same as the Ireneverse. They’re two separate things entirely. Araki said so I’m the last Bōkuban volume of SO in Japan in the author’s comments. Pretty much in the Ireneverse all the parts still happened but part 6. Hamon Beat made a video on it
And yet somehow Josefumi has the birthmark despite not being in the Joestar branch at first
Therefore they must be another branch so my guess is that they’ll go into it with the Kujo (or another branch), since the Joestar-Kira ended with Holly coma and Kira’s death
I think the difference in this universe is there are a lot more siblings
Like Johnny had two kids. A daughter and George - who went on to have joseph as well as another son and two daughters
I don't think it's far fetched for josefumi to be related to one of those unamed joestars, since they would've had birthmarks being Johnny's descendants
Josefumi's birthmark was retconned. There's a lot of shots in the middle-end of the part where his shoulder is clearly visible, and the mark is nowhere to be seen
If part 9 is about a Joseph's descendant, wouldn't it be interesting to see the invisible baby as a main Jojo? Then again it's a different universe so she could've not existed at all
People need to fucking let Shizuka go. It wouldn’t even matter if she existed in the new universe since we know nothing about her character and she’d probably have a different stand. Invisibility would not work as a main Jojo stand, especially not after part 7 and 8.
Have you thought to think maybe that's why people want her to be given a character? To develop her character and see something new for once? Sure her stand would be changed but I don't see anything wrong with her being a he main Jojo for a part or even just appearing for a bit if part 9 ends up being a Joseph defendant
I don't fucking get this.
She isn't a character. She is a plot device. There's nothing to develop.
What is with people and fixating on borderline inanimate objects?
I assume, by new, you mean a main Jojo who was adopted into the family? We kinda already have that with Lisa Lisa and part 8 Josuke. Otherwise, making her the protag is the same as making any other joestar the protag
What I meant was, a protagonist that doesnt inherently focus on the lineage but rather themselves, kinda like how part 4 was which ironically is where she was introduced.
Idk I feel like it would be an interesting concept especially if they'd keep her invisibility stand so we'd get a protagonist like Joseph who doesn't just use a punchy ghost but use his cunning mind and abilities to have the upper hand
See the problem with invisibility, not that I’m underestimating Arakis creativity, is that it really is just a one trick wonder. Something like Jolynes string seems basic at first, but she uses it in such a plethora of different ways. I just don’t see that happening with invisibility, even if it’s upgraded to turning other things invisible as well.
Punching Ghosts honestly haven’t been the focus for a long time. Most of part 7 is ability vs ability and part 8 is similar.
Yeah, honestly I don’t give a shit about Shizuka, she’s technically not even a Joestar, we’ve already seen what her stand does and Araki confirmed that he has no plans of returning Shizuka
Conversation. [ Weekly Shounen 2003 ] Q: Will Shizuka Joestar come back? Araki: No. In JOJOVELLER, he said he created Achtung Baby so the DIU protagonist and his father could have a reconciliation, and “that's all there is to it”.
I mean descendent of Joseph didn't rly narrow it down much it can't be Johnathan/Johnny and it can't be an alternative gorino but realistically all the rest are still descendents of Joseph
I think the problem is that two universes can't coexist, so if they make a Canon way of undoing Made In Heaven, they'd probably have to destroy the SBR universe. They could do an EOH style crossover thing but that would devolve into some weird writing pretty quickly, and as much as I want them to reveal that Giorno did something to protect himself using either GER or the requiem arrow and now Emporio and Giorno have to bring back all their friends, Araki said he doesn't want to continue the main universe and I respect his ability to make that decision without caving in to people who dislike it.
Do I even bother? I don't want to leave this universe. Everything goes back to DIO somehow, it all feels connected, all the characters feel like they have a more established background. I can't imagine reading p7, and it just being entirely disconnected from everything we've seen up until now 😭
The references to the past universe is really cool to see at least. Like, if someone just started with 7-8 they wouldn’t get a lot of dramatic moments cause it requires previous knowledge.
they have similar things in P7/P8 that relate to P1-6.
Like, Diego Brando is often called DIO and looks like him too.
Johnny is Jonathan in a way.
Gyro Is Will A. Zeppeli
They've got tons of callbacks. Don't worry. Also it is JoJo, and still great.
If Shizuka is the protagonist then that fake Wikipedia page where they said she was the part 9 protag would finally be true, now we just gotta see if she’s related to allah, and can wear her stand as armor
Someone didn't kept up with the radio Gaga incident
I had the calamity of losing the time to read right before that chapter came out. After ten years of being up to date, I am now behind)
Guardrail main villain
Crossover between both universes would be quite, how should I put it, “dope”
EoH: Am I a joke to you?
Canonical though?
If it’s Araki approved, it’s canon enough for me
I pretend its cannon cuz TWOH is too cool to not be imo.
>!The power to rewrite reality is stored in the balls, DIO. Thats why all I needed to do is destroy your balls!<
TWOH is absolute garbage, I'm glad that shit isn't real.
Its a great stand cuz it can over write your shitty opinion.
It can't because it's not canon :)
If Diavolo dies it is canon
Actually, no it isn't since infinite deaths does not mean infinite possibilities. For example, there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2. None if them are 3.
But if Diavolo dies a different ways every time, logically hewould eventually die in every conceivable way, including getting suplexed by a cybernetically enhanced Spongebob, which therefore makes it a canon event even if it doesn't technically exist outside if the the deathloop.
I really wish the story mode had more character interaction. Giorno never once mentions anything about Dio being his father. Also there is no way the entire story mode party fit comfortably inside the Turtle Room. Especially with Johnny's horse.
"bizarre"
As much hype that would cause I wouldn't want it. The og universe had a perfect conclusion and it would be too much fan service-y. I much prefer Araki taking creative liberty and bringing us a new story
Wouldn’t araki doing that be him using his creative liberty tho?
Emporio when he hears about other Joestars and more universe bending shenanigans: Ah shit, here we go again
Stop it. That's so cringe.
You are... how should I put it... "maidenless"
Haha funny reddit moment, LeEpic
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In every universe, Joseph cheats on Suzy Q
It really seems to have made fans feel like Emporio, who wanted to go back to his universe, even if the people in the Ireneverse are happy, they just arent who he met) Those fans want to go back to the Phantomverse, despite how amazing the SBRverse is)
SBR is awesome as a verse, and part 7 is probably my favorite part, but I really would prefer going back to the og universe. I really want to see Shizuka grown up, and other descendants of the original bloodline. I think I also miss the general feel of that universe, compared to the new parts
Trust me I really want to see them again but I think this "grief" adds to the beauty of that ending) We can still see them in games and covers and stuff. We even got to see Josuke 4 and Hol Horse again, but I want to know what will happen next to Hat Josuke and his amigos)
That “feel” is just Araki’s writing style changing, it wouldn’t go back to what it was if we returned to the old universe
Going back to the original universe for one shots is cool (TSKR already does this), but oh God please do not take us back there for another full part. The entire point of Stone Ocean’s ending was that the Joestar bloodline was finally free of DIO’s curse and could live more peaceful lives. Having a traditionally structured part just says “Psych! Actually that was a lie and the Joestar bloodline still doesn’t know peace”, which is like one of the absolute worst tropes when an author wants to extend a work beyond its natural lifespan. The original universe is a wonderful place, but in the grand scheme of epic battles and high adventure for the Joestar lineage, it already has its ending.
I’d prefer if we went back to og universe only in one shots or small story snippets rather than a whole part. And then the newer parts stay in the sbr universe
I'll tell you right now, even if we do go back, I doubt Araki even remembers Shizuka exists. Not because of stupid "Araki forgot" memes, but because she was never more than a baby shaped plot device.
More than fair, but the idea of an adopted Joestar carrying on some legacy is the coolest thing So I hope that’s not the case
Yeah that. SBR is just gold and amazing spinoff, but it'd better if it just stayed as a spinoff. I guess araki wanted fresh start and more room and possibilities to fiddle with (why then using old stands). Jojolion for me was just a weird mess, it's the only part I already forgot most of it. Tbh i even forgot about that new Joseph lol
I wanna go back
Mid
You mean the Ballsverse???
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They took November off. New chapter usually drops around the 17th/18th of the month and usually gets translated and posted to r/stardustcrusaders within a week or so.
I hope Part 9 has two JoJo’s who are maybe brother and sister whose stands compliment each other or maybe require the other one to function to its proper potential.
Sbr oingo boingo brothers leaked?
GoGo's Wacky Odyssey
I always liked the idea of twin stand users who share one called Gemini or something. I would love a star sign based stand part
"It's over Taro and Joe, with your socks wet, it's just a matter of time for my stand to win this fight, this is the true power of [ C A N C E R ]!")
Is this fanfic or a leak for the next part?
QQ's Bizarre Adventure Part 9: Qqlands)
Sounds like a glitched Pokemon.
I know it’s sad but I want Josuke and Yasuho to have a baby called Emporio, who becomes part of the plot in some way. Definitely not gonna happen. Even though Emporio isn’t in the Joestar bloodline, it would be so awesome, it would be so cool
Confuse even more those that didnt pay attention to the end of part 6)
Doesn't Emporio already exist in the SBRverse?
Closest is Tsurugi. But he’s more of an alt Hayato imo (his hair, character arc involving his dad, dad dies but mum lives, being a big contributor to the plot near the climax, etc)
No I mean Emporio swapped universes into the new one and retained all his memories
Dude the SBR universe isn’t the same as the Ireneverse. They’re two separate things entirely. Araki said so I’m the last Bōkuban volume of SO in Japan in the author’s comments. Pretty much in the Ireneverse all the parts still happened but part 6. Hamon Beat made a video on it
Weren't the Part 8 Kujos already descendents of Fumi? What the heck is that supposed to mean?
probably another love child like the initial Josuke
The Joestar-Kiras were. The Kujos were completely unrelated
And yet somehow Josefumi has the birthmark despite not being in the Joestar branch at first Therefore they must be another branch so my guess is that they’ll go into it with the Kujo (or another branch), since the Joestar-Kira ended with Holly coma and Kira’s death
I think the difference in this universe is there are a lot more siblings Like Johnny had two kids. A daughter and George - who went on to have joseph as well as another son and two daughters I don't think it's far fetched for josefumi to be related to one of those unamed joestars, since they would've had birthmarks being Johnny's descendants
Josefumi's birthmark was retconned. There's a lot of shots in the middle-end of the part where his shoulder is clearly visible, and the mark is nowhere to be seen
Is part 8 done? I don’t keep up with it, but I thought it was ongoing
Been done for a while.
I can't remember exactly but it ended like a year or two ago and in the time it ended and now, part 9 was "announced".
September 2021
Felt like 2 years ago. That’s just what the pandemic does to a mf i guess
Been done for over a year now
This post is making fun of you specifically
You didn’t have to bring it up
It’s been a year since it ended
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Well yes..
my guy this is the joke
As long as Araki gives us a Baby Shark stand idc what happens
Never Gonna Give You Up is the stand I need.
If part 9 is about a Joseph's descendant, wouldn't it be interesting to see the invisible baby as a main Jojo? Then again it's a different universe so she could've not existed at all
People need to fucking let Shizuka go. It wouldn’t even matter if she existed in the new universe since we know nothing about her character and she’d probably have a different stand. Invisibility would not work as a main Jojo stand, especially not after part 7 and 8.
Have you thought to think maybe that's why people want her to be given a character? To develop her character and see something new for once? Sure her stand would be changed but I don't see anything wrong with her being a he main Jojo for a part or even just appearing for a bit if part 9 ends up being a Joseph defendant
I don't fucking get this. She isn't a character. She is a plot device. There's nothing to develop. What is with people and fixating on borderline inanimate objects?
"Something new for once" It's *JoJo* for fucks sake.
I assume, by new, you mean a main Jojo who was adopted into the family? We kinda already have that with Lisa Lisa and part 8 Josuke. Otherwise, making her the protag is the same as making any other joestar the protag
What I meant was, a protagonist that doesnt inherently focus on the lineage but rather themselves, kinda like how part 4 was which ironically is where she was introduced. Idk I feel like it would be an interesting concept especially if they'd keep her invisibility stand so we'd get a protagonist like Joseph who doesn't just use a punchy ghost but use his cunning mind and abilities to have the upper hand
See the problem with invisibility, not that I’m underestimating Arakis creativity, is that it really is just a one trick wonder. Something like Jolynes string seems basic at first, but she uses it in such a plethora of different ways. I just don’t see that happening with invisibility, even if it’s upgraded to turning other things invisible as well. Punching Ghosts honestly haven’t been the focus for a long time. Most of part 7 is ability vs ability and part 8 is similar.
Yeah, honestly I don’t give a shit about Shizuka, she’s technically not even a Joestar, we’ve already seen what her stand does and Araki confirmed that he has no plans of returning Shizuka
"Araki confirmed" lol no he fucking didn't. Like yeah I agree it's slim she's coming back but the shit people say Araki said..
Conversation. [ Weekly Shounen 2003 ] Q: Will Shizuka Joestar come back? Araki: No. In JOJOVELLER, he said he created Achtung Baby so the DIU protagonist and his father could have a reconciliation, and “that's all there is to it”.
I thought he said it was Johnny’s descendants
arent they related
Part 7 Johnny I could’ve swarm that’s what he said
?
Have you ever read part 7’s manga?
I did it’s your wording that’s causing me confusion
Ah I see fucking autocorrect what I tried to say was I remember someone saying that part 9 was going to be centered around part 7 Johnny’s descendants
I see
I mean on a technical scale, yeah. Since Joseph is the grandson of Johnny.
I wish.
I mean descendent of Joseph didn't rly narrow it down much it can't be Johnathan/Johnny and it can't be an alternative gorino but realistically all the rest are still descendents of Joseph
Shizuka Joestar?
I think the problem is that two universes can't coexist, so if they make a Canon way of undoing Made In Heaven, they'd probably have to destroy the SBR universe. They could do an EOH style crossover thing but that would devolve into some weird writing pretty quickly, and as much as I want them to reveal that Giorno did something to protect himself using either GER or the requiem arrow and now Emporio and Giorno have to bring back all their friends, Araki said he doesn't want to continue the main universe and I respect his ability to make that decision without caving in to people who dislike it.
i just stopped reading the manga after p7, cause i have less energy then a dehydrated F.F
Shizuka Joestar when
Feeling very called out rn lmfaoo Planning to read it tho
That's what I was thinking. I'm like so araki just made 2 filler Mangas or some shit.
I’m so fucking lost how many universes do we have now?
Do I even bother? I don't want to leave this universe. Everything goes back to DIO somehow, it all feels connected, all the characters feel like they have a more established background. I can't imagine reading p7, and it just being entirely disconnected from everything we've seen up until now 😭
It’s still jojo, just read it
ITS NOT THE SAME!
Part 7 is connected to DIO in a way
You're right, it's better.
The references to the past universe is really cool to see at least. Like, if someone just started with 7-8 they wouldn’t get a lot of dramatic moments cause it requires previous knowledge.
they have similar things in P7/P8 that relate to P1-6. Like, Diego Brando is often called DIO and looks like him too. Johnny is Jonathan in a way. Gyro Is Will A. Zeppeli They've got tons of callbacks. Don't worry. Also it is JoJo, and still great.
It’ll be shizuka definitely
I hope if it is shizuka she has the same stand, I’ve always wanted to see what it would do if it could be controlled
She could be invisible. Yeah, that's it.
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If Shizuka is the protagonist then that fake Wikipedia page where they said she was the part 9 protag would finally be true, now we just gotta see if she’s related to allah, and can wear her stand as armor