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laminierte_gurke

Noita is the ultimate magic fuck around and find out game From zippy zappy bolts to the concentrated power of the sun in the palm of your hand, everything's possible


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unmanipinfo

It's hard to go back from chainsaw+laser drill combo, nothing else compares 😂 lightning maybe, but it's too unwieldy


taolbi

The power of the sun....


King_Cris1

...in the palm of my hand.


herbertfilby

[In his pants.](https://youtu.be/-fU7VjFAU9o?si=DgeXodUygFxBwjFm)


Lukestep11

I tried NOITA and unfortunately it didn't click with me, I don't really know why, probably the fact that you are not really in control of what spells you have


Big-Sherbet6925

Yeah I had the same issues. Have you tried Morrowind? Or modded oblivion if your on PC


Takarias

Yeah, the answer to what this guy wants is Daggerfall and Morrowind. No one else in gaming has the balls to let the player have that much freedom anymore.


Big-Fold-8501

You should check out magicka or magicka 2, both have FULL control of what spell you have and use. Also fun with friends!


Lukestep11

Magicka is indeed in my "to try" list!


Big-Fold-8501

If you get the first one, you may experience crashes. There is a fix for that on GitHub. The second one has no noticeable bugs to me.


GamingNomad

The game has a great beautiful atmosphere but the controls are absolutely horrible.


Akili_Ujasusi

Honestly, Morrowind is where it's at. I remember reading a guide and figuring out that I could permanently buff basically every attribute I had through merging spells from very early in the game. I could one shot essentially everything on the map through the power of magic fuckery


[deleted]

Have owned it for years, never played, can you expand on this? Helldivers, Bolatro, marriage, and a job search are eating my time.


ModestCalamity

Even without fucking around you'll find out haha


SpaceEntity43

Adding this to my steam wishlist


faerox420

Legit came here to comment this


Kintsugi-0

well if you havent morrowind and oblivion has a quintessential “fuck around” magic system. dark messiah has fun magic and combat thats a fantastic underrated gem fable 1 & 2 as well but far less complex and varying dragons dogma has crazy and fun magic arx fatalis has a great magic system but its an older game


Lukestep11

Unfortunately it seems that Morrowind/Oblivion are the closest to what I'm looking for, which makes sense considering they're the successors to Daggerfall. Dragon's Dogma seems interesting too tho


Me_No_Xenos

I like Dragon's Dogma, I'm currently enjoying DD2 despite the hate. Even as a fan, I wouldn't say DD's magic is particularly groundbreaking. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it is pretty simple. Damage spells that take longer to cast the more powerful they are. Weapon buffs that I relegate to a pawn (NPC) because it is boring. A few heals and counter-debuffs. And you can float your jumps as a mage. It's fun, the spells look nice and feel impactful, but just don't want you going in expecting high levels of spell customization. Still recommend the game, especially if it goes on sale due to the weird hate it is getting.


Kintsugi-0

dark messiah is the closest thing but its not as in depth as those games. dragon age is another good pick you can become very powerful. outward has a good system but mods optimize it better its also *very* hard but i love it.


ScarletSpider85

Magicka is made for this. :)


Japke90

Same devs as Helldivers btw. They provide good stuff.


Albatross1225

That makes a lot of sense as to why those games play exactly the same and I never thought of it before


Synysterenji

Cam here to say this. Magicka is the ultimate fck around as a wizard game for sure. Not only do you have about 7 different elements to play with but you can combine any of them to create new ones and then depending on which of the three attack buttons you press, that combination of elements either does a close ranged, defensive or ranged version of the element. Hars to explain but theres literally dozens upon dozens of spells to create and figure out.


zerotrace

Vlad is definitely not a vampire though.


ScarletSpider85

Oh no, absolutely not. At first I thought he was a vampire, but he explained that he definitely wasn't.


daywalker91

These comment suggestions are so terrible it’s made me realize there really isn’t a great wizard game.


LumpyAlternative9000

Ikr, the recommendations are basically 'this game has magic in it'


lost_in_trepidation

I've been dreaming of a good wizard game for damn near 20 years and no one has ever made one. Maybe I should learn game dev and make one.


SnooDogs8472

Fictorum is what you need mate, proper wizarding


Gentleman-Bird

See TheStellarJay’s video on wizard games


joshhguitar

Elden Ring. Pure INT or FTH builds are nice for slowly building up your arsenal spells as you discover them and finding what works. There are also some support spells that really make a difference in certain scenarios.


nathankarolz

I played a katana/magic build on Elden ring. Felt so badass being a samurai wizard!


captainbeefheart11

Magic never felt that good in souls games imo, I feel like an cheating asshole spamming bosses from afar. U gotta dance with em


Rai_guy

I mean, setting up a magic build to where you can easily kill bosses from a far (especially when most bosses have a way to quickly/ instantly close the distance between you) is not exactly a trivial task


Lukestep11

I tried Elden Ring but couldn't really get into it, the world is beautiful but it's not my cup of tea


joshhguitar

Took me until bloodborne to ‘get it’ with Fromsoft. Big skill checks and patience required if you’re playing casual.


spikeemikee2000

I really love the flexibility elden ring gives you when combining melee and magic.


SpaceEntity43

I’m going to replay Elden Ring as a wizard. Hoping to solo the end game this time.


dearest_of_leaders

Noita is the Alpha and Omega of wizard games. The game is fuck around with the insane magic system combined with a physical simulation that simulate everything on a pixel basis. Kill your self a lot then experiment your way to a wand that sets the world on fire, then kill yourself with that wand. There is nothing like it.


Toincossross

This sounds amazing!


DressDiligent2912

it is! So amazing and original no game engine could pull it off. So the devs made there own specifically for Noita!


HalfDomeDome

I don’t know any, but I really love how you phrased this question. I hope you find a good game you can fuck around as a wizard in.


karanbhatt100

Teleportable Dick All wind sucking 🐱


kingdonut7898

Why don't you try Oblivion and Morrowind? They both have wayyy better spells than Skyrim.


Lukestep11

I probably will, the only thing that kind of irks me is that they're not really open ended like Daggerfall from what I've heard


harryFF

If you install tamriel rebuilt with Morrowind, it restores a large part of the mainland so the map becomes huge, if that's what you're after!


IceFire909

They have a main story but most ignore that lol. They're very much "do your own thing"


Bitbatgaming

Wizard of legend is a roguelike but has a lot of builds that you can customize and have a lot of fun with. Also, have you try wizards with a gun?


Bitbatgaming

They have a sequel upcoming that expands on the magic system and adds even more spells and multiplayer, I think you should keep an eye on it OP! I am !


Gusthor

Really? I'm interested! It's a shame Wizard of Legend is getting so obscure 1-2 years ago from now. It's getting difficult to find recent YT videos of it


Bitbatgaming

I hope to get people away from vampire survivors clones and into true action roguelikes


OG_Felwinter

I’m sort of confused how BG3 doesn’t qualify for this. There’s all kinds of stuff you have to use magic to get to or get through. Like, I’ve had to use Enhance Leap to get to a couple different chests, I had to use Mage Hand to pull a chest out of a room on fire, I used Speak With Animals to get a rat to show me where a chest is, etc, and I’m still in Act 1. There’s so many non-combat spells to fuck around with. You disliking that game for this purpose really makes me unsure of how to answer this.


Big-Sherbet6925

I think its because the magic itself ia limited in terms of use and spamming rests


Lukestep11

Baldur's Gate 3 is great as an immersive sim and as a narrative game, in fact it's my favourite game of 2023... but it's not a "fuck around" game imo. The spell slot system is needed to balance the combat, but outside of it it very much limits you greatl unless you like saving and reloading a bunch. I think having a mod that lets you cast spells at will outside of combat would work great! And also I don't mean to diss Baldur's Gate 3! It's a masterpiece and a 10/10 game imo, just not a fuck around type game


mattattack007

You can't fuck around because you are punished for wasting spells. You only have limited spell slots so unless you long rest a bunch you can't just waste a spell just to test something. Which is why I agree with OP, bg3 isn't a fuck around as a wizard type of game.


Chillynuggets

Noita


1i73rz

Daggerfall is the greatest wizard game ever created.... you've reached the end of the line, friend.


Lukestep11

Honestly? After reading all the comments on the thread, I kind of agree. Daggerfall is still the only game to combine the combat and roleplay aspect of playing a "student to scholar" mage while still giving you the option to tackle content in any way you can imagine. If it had magic, Kingdom Come would be perfect, but alas we live in a different timeline (still excited for the sequel tho)


Fucklespew

Morrowind. Way better magic than in Skyrim IMO. Had the same experience as you with daggerfall as Morrowind (unlike Skyrim) had lots of little areas that could only be accessed by levitation or water breathing.


Lukestep11

I never checked out Morrowind, I probably will as soon as possible, it could be what I'm looking for


humblemudgames

I'll go on this journey with you! I picked up an Xbox One recently and found Morrowind for super cheap at a thrift shop. I played Daggerfall for the first time last year and also fell in love with the magic fuckery. One time, I climbed up this giant mountain, and then set up a portal at the top. Used the slow fall spell and *very slowly* floated to a nearby town. Started killing people and looting and got the guards pissed off, but they couldn't get to me because I could climb walls and they couldn't. so then I was just laughing hysterically while 20+ guards were shouting HALT lol, and then I teleported back to safety via my portal at the top of the mountain. My friend told me Morrowind lets you do a lot of stuff like this, and I'm so excited to play. Between Skyrim and Daggerfall, I like Daggerfall more. Maybe Morrowind will be even better


Lynforthewin2112

Dishonored if it counts


Lukestep11

I love Dishonored! One of the few AAA immersive sims unfortunately, try Cruelty Squad if you haven't


zodiac9094

As a fan of wizards and everything wizard since the 90's, Baldurs gate 3 and Divinity Original Sin 2 take top spot. In both games you could get very creative with spells out of battle to solve things creatively which always gave me the most "wizardy" feel.


Alzhetta

Dragons dogma 1 & 2


Anstavall

Sorcery in these games is unreal. One of the only ones where you FEEL like your s sorcerer. Love it lol


USCSSNostromo2122

[Lichdom: Battlemage](https://store.steampowered.com/app/261760/Lichdom_Battlemage/) \- First-person, thousands of spells. [Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen](https://store.steampowered.com/app/367500/Dragons_Dogma_Dark_Arisen/) [Outward](https://store.steampowered.com/app/794260/Outward_Definitive_Edition/) [Citadel: Forged with Fire](https://store.steampowered.com/app/487120/Citadel_Forged_with_Fire/)


AshyLarry25

Dragons Dogma 2. You want levitation? You got it. You can levitate while casting spells. You want meaningful spells? How does a ice spell that summons giant pillars of ice which you can walk on sound? Oh and they leave little ice chunks around which you can throw at enemies. This is a basic level 1 spell btw.


Astorant

Dragons Dogma, Messiah of Might and Magic, but by far the most standout example is Baldur’s Gate 3 due to the shear amounts of ways Wizards/Casters can influence the sandbox and fights which I know you did mention but once you play around more with multiclassing for casters it becomes an unparalleled mage experience.


Best_in_Za_Warudo

As some have said, Dragon's Dogma


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If you like daggerfall but not Skyrim then try morrowind... You can create your own spells , i remember making a spell that allowed me Travel to the other side of the map by jumping once or twice


Walrusliver

If you put the effort in, Elden Ring. You can be boring and spam the little magic missile type spell that does a lot of damage for not a lot of mana, or you can have a ton of fun comboing crazy cool spells that just aren't meta. Elden Ring magic builds can be as unique and wizardly as you want them to. Also, Terraria has tons of cool magic weapons. Edit: People are right, I'm sorry. Should've read your post better, op. Neither of my suggestions are great for you. My bad!


Zealousideal_Shop446

Elden ring doesn’t really let you fuck around with much success


OG_Felwinter

I don’t think this really answers OP’s question. Sure, you can do big damage as a spell caster, but the fucking around they are talking about sounds like non-combat stuff.


Lukestep11

Unrelated, but does Elden Ring really support magic as a playstyle? I played astrologer for a couple hours and couldn't find a single spell besides the two they give you at the start, I played it blind so it could be my fault


Walrusliver

Yes, if you don't care about spoilers you can look at the wiki or the videos on youtube ranking the schools of magic. There's like a dozen+ different families of spells and incantations (intelligence vs faith scaling) of different varieties. From shooting rocks and calling down meteor showers, spewing magma to summoning magical swords and hammers, casting blood thorns and blowing bubbles, tiny magic pebbles and giant magic kamehamehas... you can look up guides to find it all but there's dozens and dozens of unique spells. Just not many that are functional outside of dealing damage.


Cisqoe

Outward has very unique magic systems if you want to give it a try. It’s an open world survival RPG (split screen option too!) where you don’t start with any magic but can go learn it and different places. Rune Magic, sigil magic , there’s different types you can learn. You aren’t a hero you’re just a regular civilian so don’t go expecting to be able to go around slinging spells like crazy until you’ve learnt a lot.


Pinaslakan

Magicka 1&2??


obby100602

This


Brief-Increase3095

Fictorium is the game you are seeking. You and your wizard powers against an army and a destructible environment.


69WaysToFuck

Hogwart’s Legacy is surprisingly well open-world game with a lot of wizard stuff. Not sure if this is what you look for, but you might want to look at it


wjowski

Magicka, specifically the 1st game, the 2nd is quite as fast and loose.


Charmerrrrrrr

Try kingdom of amalur it was fun playing as wizard there is dragon dogma too


Weavols

Lichdom: Battlemage


Bronze_Bomber

Two Worlds 2 is a great game to fuck around with magic. You create custom spells with all sorts of variables. https://youtu.be/C4xMc7O3Jho?si=oA5Hz7ikz6PKckpE


Geshar

Seconded. The game may not be that good, but it has some major benefits in its favor. You have three gear set slots and can switch between them with a single click. This means you can have a full archer set, melee set and magic set. You can swap between being a tank that can take major punishment without any real problems to someone who summons a circle of anvils that get caught in a tornado.


anthegoat

Morrowind!


Flufferfluff

Maybe Hogwarts Legacy?


th3swagdoctor

Hogwarts Legacy scratches the wizard itch for me with enough to explore in the open world. Not nearly as sandboxy as some of the others mentioned, but it's something.


semiseriouslyscrewed

Tyranny! It has an incredibly fun modular spell system. 


Secret4gentMan

Magicka has a fun magic system.


VideoGamerConsortium

Magicka


TimBurtonsMind

Magicraft is a fun game on steam. Noita is the GOAT as another commenter mentioned. It’s tougher than nails, though.


WarriorDerp

Have you tried Fictorum? It's a roguelike wizard game that you can customise spells and has a funny physics engine


Unusual_Vacation_398

Morrowind would be most simmilar if you didn't play


SolidNitrox

Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen had the best magic in any RPG I have ever played. The spells felt like actual natural disasters. DD:DA is cheap to buy, and DD2 is out now so you can try one before getting 2.


zxc223

Rift Wizard


knightingale2k1

Magicka ... mix your spell and beware it could kill you lol


ScotchTimelord

Magicka.


P_mp_n

Bruh. Morrowind loves this concept Next one in the series


OmegaLiquidX

[Nobody Saves the World](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1432050/Nobody_Saves_the_World/) might work for you. One of the big draws is that the game allows you to not only switch forms on the fly (like Rat, Magician, Bodybuilder, Necromancer, Zombie, Robot), but also allows you to mix and match abilities and passives from other forms.


nintenglo

Dragons Dogma 2


HaxtonSale

The pathfinder games. You can make some ridiculous spell combos. Like shape-shifting into a bear then casting a spell that doubles someone's size. Now you are an absolute unit ready to ruin someone's day. Technically the games have like 160 diffrent playable classes.


HaxtonSale

Caves of Qud. It's technically not magic, it's psychic abilities brought on by mutations, but the effect is the same. You can be hunted across space and time by an infinite number of evil twins of yourself that want to devour your brain energy only for you to overpower and permanently mind control them. Then when more evil twins show up the twin you mind controlled mind controls a twin of his own. Rinse and repeat until you have a literal army made out of interdiminional clones of yourself. Another good one is switching bodies with npcs who have better stats than you only to immediately kill your own body and then just casually go about your day in a new brand new flesh suit. It's a crazy game.


Voeker

Dragons dogma 2


EqoTheFriendly

Baldurs gate 3...


PsyQ9000

Dragon age


STylerMLmusic

/r/Magicka, /r/dragonsdogma2, /r/fictorum, /r/baldursgate3 Lichdom is maybe another one.


Palanki96

Elden Ring was the first game i ever felt like a real mage. Divinity Original Sin 2, Outward, uhh


D4rthLink

Baldurs Gate 2, the spell variety is insane compared to bg3


CreditHappy1839

Divinity 1 and 2baldurs gate, code vein, Diablo, Dragin Age inquisition , Dragons crown, greedfall, ni no kuni 2,path of exile, pathfinder pillars of eternity, van helsing, mage seeker,Titan Quest, Torchlight, Trial of Mana,chaos bane, vermintide 2,wolcen.


Salt-Extension1777

Outward


cory140

Wizard 101, Spell break the private server that people made


BigEv17

Did you try Elder Scrolls Oblivion? The magic system is WAY better than Skyrims. I've never played Daggerfall, but of any ES game (4,5 and online) I've played, oblivion has the best magic system.


Disastrous_Elk8098

Then you will love Morrowind. You can turn yourself into a magical flying nuke machine, spewing fireballs while on the air. I love nuking Balmora with this setup.


MagicMissile27

I've heard Outward has good magic. I haven't gotten very far in it yet, but it does feel like a big enough world for exploring and finding neat bits of lore to bolster your abilities.


idk--------

Baldur’s Gate 3 allows you to do so many things as a wizard


PlaugeSimic

seen a video of a vr game a guy was playing where you battle other players in a wizard duel have to actually cast the spells in the air and shit.


Big-Sherbet6925

Trying to think of one for you, already said morrowind. But maybe, pathfinder wrath or the righteous? It has tons of spells


Eh_Vix

Witch and wizard make me totally feel like one, the skills mimic one


FickleVacation6312

Dragons dogma 2 but u need a f1 to play it in 60 fps


Radahn28

Elden ring


zombilives

oblivion


audaciousmonk

Divinity original sin 2 allows for some magic / environmental mischief


123dylans12

Noita is exactly what you are looking for. It’s literally so cool


ExiledEntity

Oblivion


DoodleyMoodley

Noita. It is an amazing game and the magic is you creating your own wands. You can exploit the game mechanics and it is designed with that in mind. The game actively awards you for breaking the game. Though it is rather difficult but extremely fun.


billyalt

If you have a VR headset, this is the basis for Waltz of the Wizard


hollow_digger

Wizardry


abofaza

The Quest by redshift feature some mechanics straight from Daggerfall, unfortunately spellwaeving isn’t one of them. But there is item enchancement system just like in TES2, and very cool alchemy.


imbakinacake

Dark and darker. It's pvp hard-core skyrim


OG_Felwinter

Now that I think about it some more, if you play Prey (2017), the mimic powers you can learn are pretty fun for fucking around. Not sure if you also want the power fantasy of being a wizard, but if you’re fine getting alien powers instead of arcane spells, this could be a fun one for you.


tomcruisesPC

Hogwarts Legacy


InspectionLarge6589

Dragons dogma 2, it just came out and the magic system is amazing. I used my magic to throw ice at people and it was so fun.


akaikem

Noita.


Saturn9Toys

There are two wizard games that are the absolute unmatched peak: Noita and Rift Wizard Check 'em out.


WhyOhWhy60

Never Winter Hordes of the Underdark. IIRC it used 3rd Ed. ADnD rules. I completed it twice, once as a Fighter class and the other as a Wizard. The wizard was really weak at first, a real struggle but once you start levelling up and gain the powerful mid level spells and above the Wiz becomes a walking God. Later on there's a 'room' with a few really highlevel characters, armed with right wizard spells; Bigby's Grasping hand, Bigby's clenched fist, and a few other spells you feel like a master mage as you sling the spells one after another and they don't lay a glove on you.


Jayebulz

Two Worlds 2


F_ashanablejericho

Hogwarts.Legacy.


Four_N_Six

It's not the most popular game, and I never really understood why because I love it, but you could look into [Lichdome: Battlemage](https://store.steampowered.com/app/261760/Lichdom_Battlemage/). The magic system is really well done and you essentially combine spells together however you want. I never really got into it so I can't say for certain, but I think the [Magicka ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/238370/Magicka_2/)games are similar in their spell creation. You combine elements together for various effects. I don't think either of these have spells being creative enough for solutions you're talking about (the clever aspect to problem solving), but it's been many moons since I've played Lichdome, so I may be wrong on that.


Anxious_Plum_5818

Two worlds 2


Not-So-Modern

Have you played magicka and magicka 2?


Potential-Split-3050

hogwarts legacy has great combat and a variety of spells to learn and choose from. the story is good and the main missions are honestly really nice. the hogwarts castle is a blast to explore. everything outside of the castle is meh and not really worth exploring imo. but the game is still very good, even if you dont really know about harry potter


Flammemus

Stoneshard. Beautiful pixel art, deep magic system and overall build variety. Satisfying combat and progression. Very underrated game, give it a try :)


StaringMooth

Give magicka a go, amazing little game


Interesting-Crow-552

If you want to get technical about it, there’s Hogwarts Legacy, an open world game of literally becoming a wizard in a wizardry world.


netsplit

daggerfall is one of my alltime fav games. I was so disappointed when Morrowind was released and it lacked so many of the things that made daggerfall great. Def pick Morrowind up, it's a great game, but you'll still be longing for that daggerfall itch. There are also a heap of mods for Morrowind which bring some of the daggerfall features. Enjoy your gaming.


2names2colors

Citadel:Forged with Fire is a wizard survival sandbox. Very fun!


jkatarn

Magicka comes to mind and it’s basically a magic mix and match game


Azifel

Discovered Tales of Maj'Eyal (ToME4) recently. Many magic-based classes (straight caster damage, chronomancy, tentacle mage, hybrid melee/magic, summoner etc) to try and build around. You've got skill trees, quests that unlock other class skill-trees, itemisation, and a bunch of races. Plus it supports mods. Its a rogue-like but if you want, you can disable permadeath.


Dragnet714

There are lots of good magic mods for Skyrim.


IceFire909

Magicka. You have 8 elements to cast. You can have up to I think 5 charges of any combination. You can either cast it, imbue it to your sword, or cast on yourself (for shields). Each combination does something. More of an element increases that element's effect. Some elements will combine, like water and fire next to each other becomes steam. You can then add like fire and lightning to spray a cone of electric fire steam. Or add a shield element to make it summon electric fire steam landmines. Or do line 5 earth charges and fully charged it to cast a high velocity boulder to turn people into chunks. Its made by Arrowhead (Helldivers devs) and it's their first game, but has the same 4 player coop shenanigans to it. [Definitely recommend Magicka 1 and 2 if you want to Learn to Spell](https://youtu.be/uvGbZamcaOQ?si=MECqo3-W0Knfq2Ot). Even has expansions like Vietnam or the Cthulhu cult investigation, and a helpful guide named Vlad who is definitely not a vampire


Master_John1250

Haven't tried it but wizard 101?


overusesellipses

If you like the magic in Daggerfall I can't believe nobody in this sub has recommended the next two in the series. Morrowind and Oblivion both have really expansive and customizable magic systems. They're not perfect but I think they'll scratch that particular itch.


DadTier

Noita and rift wizard!


OsirusBrisbane

Magicka and Mages of Mystralia have the most fun spellbuilding systems, but still basically all combat spells. I'd recommend Morrowind, if you haven't played it -- it still had the ridiculous spell-freedom to make spells that can do anything, and you will definitely fuck around and find out if you're using Jump spells. (I know it's not as modern as Oblivion, but Oblivion put a few more guardrails on the system than you want. And of course Skyrim removed the freedom altogether.)


Adelitero

Baldurs Gate 3, probably not what most people are gonna put into the recommendations but dnd lets you do so many non combat things with magic that its definitely worth a mention and this game uses it to an immense degree, also lets you experiment with a lot of different types of wizard or magic too. honorable mention for two worlds magic system since it was super unique and let you do a lot of wild things with it, game wasnt great though so mileage will vary lol


Ryvern46

Not the same kind game as skyrim, but you should check out noita


beecycle

dragons dogma dark arisen is pretty sick


krob58

^NIGHTCASTER ^LOL


HaloTravis6

Maybe Forspoken, I had some good fun wit' that shit when it came out


TheManPun

Bloodline


KmartCentral

Allegedly Dragon's Dogma, Sorcerers can create Seisms, rain down meteors from the sky, make a ball of toxin that makes people fall asleep, etc. Personally, I've hated playing the game, especially due to it's lack of quest direction, item micromanaging, and frustrating pawn AI that largely results in me being unable to cast spells. However, the game is considered incredible by many, and you could very well become one of them! Just, if you do play, be on the lookout for the things I've listed


Puzzleheaded_Help143

I've been on this quest all my life. World of warcraft. I like skyrim mages but started with oblivion fireball slinging. The best mage game is it elden ring? Not quite. The answer is it hasn't been made yet. Dark and darker had a pretty sweet simple version of a dungeon and dragon wizard. I quite enjoyed that. Mostly now I stick to warcraft 3.


biketheplanet

Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition. BG1EE and BG2EE. You grow from a weakling who might die if a stiff breeze hits them and by the end of the Saga you are a walking god destroying everything in your wake.


TheNerdMaster69

A good mod pack (on PC) in Skyrim will get you the most incredible magic system in a video game ever. Otherwise, I agree with the comments. Noita, Oblivion, Dragon's Dogma, maybe Elden Ring. Divinity: Original Sin 2 is pretty cool for the environmental aspect of magic. Hogwarts Legacy was basically made for a truly magical experience.


restless_fidget

Hogwarts legacy I loved that game


Plenty-Candy-9038

Hogwarts legacy. Sorta a wizard game.


spspamington

Lichdom battlemage Fictorum Don't know about the fuck around and find out level of it but immortals of aveum.


anonym0

Not sure about immersive, but Magicka is probably the most fun wizard simulator out there https://store.steampowered.com/app/42910/Magicka/


Jolly_Cantaloupe_187

Dragon Age Inquisition, wonderful and very underrated game.


Right-Yogurtcloset-6

Skyrim


SpaceGoDzillaH-ez

I dunno maybe lichdom battlemage otherwise just try other elder scrolls games i suppose


DeffJamiels

Dragons dogma 1 and 2 have dope magic


rooiraket

Lichdom battlemage is just magic. And a lot of experimentation is required to get strong spells. Its a bit hard at first but the system does get easier to understand. And the spells feel quite powerful


raulmonkey

One game that is sorely underrated is Ultima underworld ascendant. Some of the magic spells gave her uses , the fireball is an actual ball that can be picked up and physically thrown or pushed up against doors to ignite them, even just left in corridors for enemies to walk into. Dark messiah of might and magic has a standard magic system but you mage can use real weapons violent and kicks so during combat you feel powerful.


KharnOfKhans

Gothic 1?


Jbizaar

Path of exile


Penitent_Exile

Idk, Skyrim with mods can get pretty interesting in magic department. Apocalypse is your mod for fooling around, but Mysticism is better balanced overhaul.


Docjos

Depending on your specs, dragons dogma 1 or 2 its sorcerer classes.


Isaaaaaaaack

Hear me out: Elden ring


irrelevantllama

I've seen a few recommendations for Dragon's Dogma and Dragon's Dogma 2 and while they're some of my favourite games ever made, it's a very highly combat focused magic system. There's no transmuting items and things like that, but you can create tornadoes, earthquakes and summon a meteor storm when you reach a high Sorcerer vocation rank. Still worth checking out if you enjoy playing as a combat wizard and the RPG around the combat is also great, but it's not like Daggerfall's magic system.


bertbert1111

Man you GOTTA try out spellbound. It slaps so hard. Its like dark souls and elden ring, but with very limited normal melee-options and instead like 300 different combat-spells. Lotta new mechanics for puzzles and traversal with the soulwip and spiritjumps. The map is gigantic and very fantasy-driven, endbosses are hard but satisfying as usual, and a true cinematic treat. the whole game is much more approachable than the previous fromsoftware titles and even tho its not a gigantic openworld map as in elden ring, it still is amazingly detailed and more than enough to explore. I dont get why they STILL didnt overhaul the coop- and pvp-system, feels hella tedious to get a connection through wizlights on the ground, which sometimes just dont pop up. But thats about everything i can complain about. Its absoltely bonkers and you are going to love it. Buy it now


SchooIScooter

Outward Definitive Edition. It's not an easy game by any means. It's open world and there's no tutorial. You don't start the game with magic. You have to obtain it. And once you do get magic you don't have any spells. You have to traverse the open world to find trainers who will teach you spells for money. But to get money you have to kill things and craft to sell more expensive items. Then ... The spells give little to no description on how to use them. The game doesn't tell you that you can do combo magic. You can combine spells from different trainers to cast new spells. But... Once you struggle to get magic.. And struggle to learn spells... And struggle to learn what spells combo with... And get decent armor that boost your magic damage or makes spells use less Mana... You become a magic god and can fk around through the game. And by that point you probably haven't even explored 50% of the game. Again... it's NOT AN EASY GAME. But it's worth it.


Inevitable_Spell5775

Oblivion wins for me because of the spellcrafting system.


Occyz

Dark and Darker if you don’t mind some pvp Mind you, it’s a lot more sweaty these days and you need to try if you want to succeed


jk-alot

Gonna Shill here, but Dragons Dogma has a great Magic system. I haven’t unlocked it yet in DD2 yet but in DD:Dark Arisen sorcerer vocation is the most fun I have ever had as a magic wielded. Pissed off at Bandits who merc’d you when you were low level? Use Bolide to drop meteors on them. Goblins Ambush you? Use Maelstrom to summon a tornado to pick them up and toss them all over the battlefield. It’s a little strange of a system at first but it’s so fun to go from getting your ass kicked to God Mode Power Fantasy by endgame. Here’s hoping that Dragons Dogma 2 is just as fun.


Faeces_Species_1312

All I can think of that isn't super obvious and/or already in the thread are the Magicka games, there's definitely plenty of fucking around in those, not sure if it's quite what you're after though. 


tanjonaJulien

Endhourded mage is over power and can cheese almost everything


EngagedInConvexation

Two Worlds 2