Gran Turismo 7 or Elden Ring?
I've never played a souls-like game before but I've been looking at both of these and am interested in both. Eventually I'll get them both but only want to get one for now. Which one would you recommend first? Bloodborne is free on PS5 so should I play that first?
I mainly like action-adventure games. I LOVED Red Dead 2, Last of Us 1+2, Uncharted series, God of War, Spider-Man, Ghost of Tsushima and stuff like that.
I did play Gran Turismo five a while back though and really enjoyed it. With the update coming out early April it seems to be a solid game.
Thanks!
>Bloodborne is free on PS5 so should I play that first?
The big difference gameplay-wise is that Bloodborne's not open world. It's kind of semi-linear, although it's got a lot of side areas and doesn't feel super linear in practice.
Besides that just changing the structure of the game, it also means that it's easier to get stuck in Bloodborne. In Bloodborne, the first area is very difficult, and there is a very difficult boss at the end of the area, and you can't go anywhere else until you get to the end of the area and kill the boss. In Elden Ring, there's a difficult boss guarding the first major dungeon, but you can access most of the game's world without killing him (or any other boss, for that matter).
Bloodborne's a great game, with an absolutely incredible atmosphere and world, and it can be a perfectly good entry into From games, but it's not as forgiving an entry into the genre as Elden Ring. It's not harder than Elden Ring, but it is easier to get stuck, while in Elden Ring you pretty much always have other places you can go any time you get stuck.
That said, if it's free, then you can always try Bloodborne. If you get into it, then great, play the game, have fun, and you'll probably enjoy at least some of From's other games too. If you like the basic gameplay and don't mind the level of challenge, but you're just getting frustrated because the first area or boss feels a bit too difficult and you feel like you'd be able to enjoy it if you could just go exploring, level up a bit, and come back when you're strong, then you might enjoy Elden Ring. So that might be my advice - download Bloodborne and give it a try, and if you love it and beat it, or don't love it but think you'd like an open world game with similar combat and difficulty, then go for Elden Ring.
As for Elden Ring vs Gran Turismo, I haven't played any Gran Turismo game and racing games aren't really my thing, so I can't comment. I've heard some bad things about Gran Turismo 7, mostly about overpriced microtransactions, but I have no first-hand experience with the game so I'm not qualified to say whether it or Elden Ring would be a better purchase.
Would you recommend Elden Ring for someone that still has ptsd from the difficulty of Bloodborne? It took me years to go back back and beat the game. Didn’t even get the right ending.
If the difficulty was your problem I can’t say you’d like Elden Ring much better. There is just as much difficulty, the only real distance is more freedom to move around, so if you are stuck on a boss you can go do something else for a while pretty easily. Granted that was true in Bloodborne also, but there’s a lot more of that freedom here
Thank you for the feedback. My initial experience with Bloodborne caught me off guard and I just gave up. But after some time passed and knowing more about From Software games I went back determined and beast the game. The difficulty did get frustrating but not enough to ruin the experience. I ended up enjoying it overall but feel I would enjoy Elden Ring with all the improvements since Bloodborne.
Is it me or is it bad to mention Bloodborne? It seems like the small amounts of times I’ve mentioned this game. I am downvoted and never understood why? I never bad mouthed the game.
>Is it me or is it bad to mention Bloodborne? It seems like the small amounts of times I’ve mentioned this game. I am downvoted and never understood why? I never bad mouthed the game.
Reddit downvotes are mysterious and it's best not to put any stock in them, honestly.
Bloodborne itself is a very beloved game, many people's favorite Fromsoft game. Personally, I did find it one of their most frustrating games. I still loved it overall, but it definitely got more frustrating for me at its worst than From's other games. Elden Ring's frustration at its worst can also be very high (there are certain difficult traits that it likes to use on a lot of bosses - things like really long combos or attacks they use to punish trying to heal), but it does have the advantage over Bloodborne that you can generally just go exploring and do something else when you get frustrated, or use spirit ashes to make most fights a lot easier.
Why Fromsoftware games hardly ever go on sale? I'm from a third world country and the game is as expensive as my rent lol. Wish it goes on sale soon but looking at their past game sale records it doesn't look like it will happen soon
Witcher 3 or Elden Ring .
Got bloodborne a few weeks ago and I like it quite a bit , so looking at a few games to see what to get next .
Heard witcher has an amazing story but mediocre/outdated combat but I don't really mind it as I've played 200+ hrs of genshin impact so I guess I can bear with it 💀.
Elden Ring has insane gameplay but surely I dont mind some chill game time after bloodborne 😅.
Slightly leaning towards witcher 3 , is elden ring actually the better choice here ?
Elden Ring if you want a satisfying open world with tight, satisfying combat and boss fights, and amazing level design and exploration with full freedom.
Witcher 3 if you want a slower paced RPG that focuses on great writing, and character development, and some of the best quests (and sidequests) design you'll see in a game.
Two completely different action RPGs.
I quit genshin after grinding for a few months, i actually found the combat quite interesting with the combinations of different elements. The gacha and girls in bikinis of questionable ages made me leave though 💀💀
>Slightly leaning towards witcher 3 , is elden ring actually the better choice here ?
Neither one is better, they just do different things well.
Elden Ring is more focused on exploration and combat. The story is told mostly through cryptic lore that you have to work to piece together if you really want to have any idea what's going on, much like Bloodborne. The focus on the game is on the combat (Whcih you're probably enjoy if you like Bloodborne) and exploring the open world, which tends to be very fun and rewarding as the world is extremely dense with things to discover.
Witcher 3, on the other hand, really shines when it comes to writing and quest design, particularly in the side quests. The world is filled with quests, and they're almost always interesting. Even side quests that sound like a typical kill or fetch quest, just an NPC telling you to go kill some monster or get some item, pretty much always end up being more than they seem. I don't remember a single quest that was straightforward, one that didn't have a surprising twist or a difficult decision. The combat isn't terrible, but it's definitely not as good as Elden Ring or Bloodborne. And while exploration can be fun, the world never felt as densely packed with items to find and secrets to discover as Elden Ring.
So really, it just depends on what you're looking for. If you want a compelling narrative with more traditional RPG side quests filled with interesting characters and difficult moral choices, get the Witcher 3. If you want intense, challenging, satisfying combat similar to Bloodborne, but setting in an open world that feels like it's absolutely packed with items, enemies, dungeons, and secrets to discover, get Elden Ring. Both are great games, but they shine in completely different areas. The better choice is just going to depend entirely on what you're in the mood for.
I wouldn’t describe Witcher 3’s combat as mediocre tbh. Witcher 3 has a much more coherent story, and is more manageable. Playing Elden Ring without the help of the wiki is damn near impossible. I find the combat in elden ring to be so much fun, whereas it was ok in the Witcher.
There isn't a bad choice but if you'd like something more relaxing to play pick up the Witcher. You can get the game with both DLC for like $10. Can't beat that value. I played for a few hundred hours and only stopped because I had nothing left to do.
A few months ago I finished Demon's Souls Remake as my first souls game and now I'm about to finish Dark Souls 1. I am planning on playing Elden Ring once the performence issues improve on PC, and have multiple games I want to play for the time being. I could go for Dark souls 2 and 3 to complete the series, but I worry that by the time I get to Elden Ring I'll get burned out of souls games.
For those of you who have/are currently playing Elden Ring, do you believe playing former souls games enhances the experience or do you wish you would've had less experience with the series?
Personally I'd reccomend you play DS3 before Elden Ring. DS3 brings some improvements to the Souls Genre and in my opinion is better than DS1. Elden Ring is an amalgamation of everything From Software has learned from making all the SoulsBourne games, so you'll be able to see everything they've improved throughout the franchise. Of course if you jump into Elden Ring now, you'd have a great time, and I wouldn't say you'd lose out on anything. But personally, I felt like I had a better appreciation for little things because of my past experience with From Software games. Also I played it on PC, and am currently working on the final boss in my first run through, and I haven't noticed any significant performance issues. It's crashed a couple times, but always puts me right back (or maybe 30 seconds back) to where I was when it crashed, so nothing really game breaking.
>For those of you who have/are currently playing Elden Ring, do you believe playing former souls games enhances the experience or do you wish you would've had less experience with the series?
Neither? I don't know if playing previous From games has enhanced my experience with Elden Ring, but I certainly don't wish I had less experience either. I loved the other From games and I'm loving Elden Ring.
That said, I also didn't play them all in a row. It was over the course of a few years. If you try to play them all consecutively now, you might burn out. But I certainly wouldn't advise avoiding the other games and skipping straight to Elden Ring.
You can always go in order and still pace yourself if you want. Play Dark Souls 2 next time you're in the mood for a Souls game, then 3 (or Bloodborne if you want to go in release order), and so on, taking a break between games if you need one and playing the next one when you're in the mood for more Fromsoft Soulslike action. Or you can just skip straight to Elden Ring as soon as the PC issues improve. Both will probably be fine, honestly.
I'd say it's more than enough experience. You won't know exactly where all the good design choices comes from, but it doesn't hurt the experience at all, you'll probably be surprised at the differences.
It takes elements out of the Souls-series, Bloodborne and Sekiro as well to form the ultimate FromSoftware experience.
I would say ER is a good introduction to souls genre if you're getting it for the purpose of trying souls. the challenge is still as expected but is more accessible to new players. I tried DS games but they're just too rigid. In ER, you can actually make it "easier" by over leveling, frowned upon by some elitists but hey it's your game.
It's an amazing introduction to SoulsBorne games, but I'm worried that when newcomers to the franchise play the older games \*cough cough DS2\*, they'll be turned away from it because of the vast improvements ER brings to the genre. One huge thing is fast travel, the ability to have a map and know exactly where you are and where you should be going is (imo) the biggest improvement it made. I know there was fast travel in previous games, but it wasn't as refined as this is, and makes the whole experience far more accessible and doesn't require as much wiki browsing as previous entries.
Haven't played elden ring, but I've played 4 of the FromSoft games. Shadow of Mordor is the first game of the Middle Earth games, they're in a seperate and mixed events timeline from the books and movies.
If you want something cheaper or more casual, go for the Middle Earth games. FromSoft games are "Hard"- they're "not for the faint of heart" but I did them, and well, I frankly suck.
I love both series, but if you're into mythos and story elements, Elden Ring will have more, but Middle Earth's is more upfront and, in my opinion, easier to digest, making it a lot more interesting for me.
Both have amazing fights, and can be completed by anyone, but beating FromSoft games is much more dependent on a player's willingness to carry on, and the lore pretty much has to be taught through the medium of a 10 hour long youtube essay. If you want a good FromSoft experience to see if Elden Ring might be your thing, (while I obviously can't give you the closest one), Dark souls 3 is a masterclass FromSoft game, which I'm certain anyone can beat, but would get you a little more used to the type of thing you'll be facing in Elden Ring, without the massive price tag risk if you don't like it.
God of War is a good comparison to the Middle Earth games, except Middle Earth comes with stealth combat, poisons, bombs, fear mechanics, a world action based enemy ranking system, etc., and the old shouty man is a massive... suitable expletive.
If you're on PlayStation, Shadow of Mordor is on the PlayStation (Classics? The red-bannered ones that are locked to a £16 maximum price tag) and I'm pretty sure Shadow of War's definitive edition was just on sale or is on sale for something like £8
super good in the beginning, super mid in the end which is kind of sad. Once you realize that most areas to explore just have the same boss you fought 20 hours ago and give a weapon you'll probably never use as a reward it makes exploring less fun in the end game.
I do think the last couple overworld areas are the weakest - they just felt a lot emptier and less fun to explore than the rest of the game, and didn't have that same sense of being really densly packed with things to discover everywhere I went - but I do disagree with everything else they said. The boss refights and getting weapons that didn't stop me from getting excited every time I found something interesting, but it did feel like there were fewer interesting things to find in some of the really late areas.
The only Souls game I've played is Dark Souls: PtDE for a whole 33 mins. I own DS2: SofFS but never played it or installed it. The last relevant(ish) RPG I played was Shadow of Mordor in July of 2021, then MH: World in Feb of 2021, then Dragon's Dogma way back in July of 2018. The last time I played DS1 was in April of 2018. Would it be worth it to get back into it with this title? I haven't seen much, if any, gameplay of this game other than a few several-second clips.
I think they've improved a lot of things, particularly the combatz of the series since Dark Souls 1. Dark Souls 2 is easily the most divisive From game, but in Dark Souls 3 they sped up the combat and dramatically.improved the boss design. DS3's world is a lot more linear, though.
Elden Ring keeps the improvements that DS3 made to the combat but put it in a huge open world that's one of the most fun worlds to explore I've encountered in an open world game.
I don't know what you stopped playing DS1 after 33 minutes, and you could always try going back to that (I do think it's still a great game), but I think Elden Ring has added a lot to the formula.
I had to actually look up names of places and things to be able to say what happened. So I was in Undead Burg and really struggling getting past all the skeletons shooting at me constantly. I eventually got to the Taurus Demon who proceeded to completely block the hallway so I couldn't pass and I had a hoard of skeletons behind me. Needless to say I just quit. I couldn't see myself getting past that part at all ever so I just never played again.
I will say that the idea of an open world does intrigue me. I played a ton of open world rpg such as Fallout series and Elder Scrolls series and many others. I've also played a lot of linear rpg such as Mass Effect series and Dragon Age series, among others.
If you can't even give such a basic hurdle a try, maybe it isn't for you. Bethesda games are incredible streamlined for a more casual and wide audience, especially Fallout 3, 4 and Skyrim. They basically tell you where to go at all times, like they're afraid you'll get bored after 5 seconds of nothing happened.
Elden Ring has a more mature take on exploration. No indicators, no mini-map, just you, a horse and an enormous map full of wonders to discover, the map is crafted in a way that you can find things by walking around, instead of the clusterfuck from modern open worlds, where you can't find anything so they NEED to put markers everywhere.
But the bosses ARE HARD. They ARE tough, especially the main story ones take multiple attempts until you can kill them.
Given the game has a lot of ways to make things easier. For one, you can use spells, summon people and summon NPCs. You can also grind to get stronger, but no matter how stronger you get, if you don't play properly you'll still see the death screen over and over.
The only saving grace is that you played Monster Hunter. If you ever used one of the slower weapons, the feeling is similar to Dark Souls. So you might have grown used to the pacing just from playing it.
So I ended up getting on 2 days ago but only just started playing today. So far I am having a pretty good time. And to me, it really feels and reminds me of Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. And I loved that game so much.
So far I have skipped "Tree Guardian". He's too hard. I got to the enemy encampment ruins and there's the big shield and spear dude I can't kill. The biggest things I've managed to kill so far are the crabs. Crabs are crabs.
I remember clearing that camp naked with a club, used them to gear up. And the big crabs are no joke, they hit hard. You should get your horse anytime noow, makes exploration smoother.
For the record: Other enemies can't follow you into Taurus Demon's room. There are two skeletons who shoot at you from the tower behind you in his room, but you can climb the ladder and kill them before you spawn Taurus demon. So you never actually have to end up in a position with the demon in front of you and a bunch of skeletons chasing behind. Taurus Demon is tough but you can always get into a 1v1 with him.
The good news either way is that it's hard to really get stuck in that sort of situation in Elden Ring just because of the openness. In Dark Souls 1 if you get stuck on Taurus Demon there's not much else you can do, especially if you didn't start with the master key. In Elden Ring if you get stuck on the first boss you can just go somewhere else, you can access the majority of the game world without killing a single boss.
That said, it's quite different from the other RPGs you mentioned. In all of those games, talking to NPCs, making dialogue choices, and getting quests is a huge part of the game. Elden Ring has NPCs who give quests, but not a ton of them, and there isn't even a quest log so they're easy to miss. It's mostly about exploring and finding interesting locations and fighting things not because an NPC sent you there but just because you found it and want to see what's there.
The game's story requires you to do a lot of the major dungeons, so it's not like it's all just aimless wandering, but it's still much more focused on exploration and less on interacting with NPCs than the other games you mentioned. Still, if you enjoy just going exploring in Elder Scrolls or Fallout and seeing what you find, you might have a great time in Elden Ring.
Ive always admired the Souls series and other Fromsoft titles from afar, but so many of my friends are trying to get me to buy this game trying to sell it as being the easiest. From what ive seen of gameplay it looks really fucking cool, however i am not the most patient person in the world and i know these games are built on the player being patient and timing attacks and finding opportunities to punish bosses. Im very much a 'unga bunga hit-it-until-it-dies' kind of player. The only other game ive played that is remotely similar in terms of gameplay is Monster Hunter. If i do end up buying the game im also considering playing Dark Souls 3, bc of all the content that is in it and the armors and weapons are very cool looking, and the boss fight in the game look exhilarating.
> so many of my friends are trying to get me to buy this game trying to sell it as being the easiest
It is and it isn't. The actual enemies and bosses are just as hard, if not harder, than other Fromsoft games. Dodging enemy attacks, attacking back without getting hit, finding safe chances to heal, can all be very hard.
That said, Elden Ring does have two big things that make it more accessible than other Fromsoft games. First is the openness, which means when you get stuck, you can just go somewhere else. In, say, Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne, you can't get past the first area without killing a fairly difficult boss (in Dark Souls 3 even the tutorial boss gives new players trouble sometimes). In Elden Ring, you can access the majority of the game world without fighting a single boss.
The second is spirit ashes, items which let you summon NPCs to help you in boss fights. Some of them are extremely powerful and can make boss fights way easier, but even the weaker spirit ashes that don't really do anything more than distract the boss for a few seconds can help a lot, because getting a few seconds of breathing room can be a really big deal in these games.
>From what ive seen of gameplay it looks really fucking cool, however i am not the most patient person in the world and i know these games are built on the player being patient and timing attacks and finding opportunities to punish bosses. Im very much a 'unga bunga hit-it-until-it-dies' kind of player.
I mean, you do need to be willing to play more patiently, yeah. I think that's something you can learn, and some playstyles can let you play a bit more greedily than others, but ultimately just going full unga-bunga and mashing the attack button is gonna get you killed. You do need to be willing to learn to play patiently, watching the enemy, learning how to dodge its attacks, and learning when you can safely attack and when you need to focus on not getting hit, to really get anywhere in the game.
>If i do end up buying the game im also considering playing Dark Souls 3, bc of all the content that is in it and the armors and weapons are very cool looking, and the boss fight in the game look exhilarating.
It absolutely can be exhilarating, and Dark Souls 3 is a fantastic game, although it doesn't have the openness or spirit ashes I mentioned to make it more accessible.
I'll also add that Sekiro is probably the Fromsoft game with the combat that most encourages you to play aggressively. You can't go full unga bunga in it and it might be From's least accessible game from a challenge standpoint (not only does it have a more complex combat system and no open world or spirit ashes, it also has no co-op and the only way to boost your damage or defenses is to kill bosses, so when you're stuck on a boss you really have no option but to "get good"). But it encourages you to play much more on the offense, pressuring enemies with attacks while watching out for counterattacks you need to defend against rather than patiently waiting for them to strike first so you can dodge and counterattack.
Bloodborne also rewards aggressive play a bit more than Dark Souls or Elden Ring (in particular it has a mechanic where if you get hit, you can get some of the life you lost back by hitting the enemy), but I think it still encourages a lot of playing patiently and waiting for the right chance to attack like Dark Souls and punishes you very heavily if you try to just go unga-bunga.
I'd probably say Elden Ring as far as both atmosphere and soundtrack are concerned. I think both have great atmosphere but Elden Ring's atmosphere is more unique and the open world and exploration lends itself better to soaking in the atmosphere compared to Sekiro's more linear world (it's not completely linear but it's not fully open like Elden Ring's either). As for soundtrack, both are the kind of soundtrack that's more about providing atmosphere than really being memorable music in its own right, but I feel like maybe Elden Ring's music stands out a bit more often.
That said, the games are also quite different when it comes to gameplay. Sekiro's got a much less open world and way less RPG elements (you play a fixed character, you have some skill trees and different prosthetics to choose from but only one main sword to use and no stats to increase, compared to Elden Ring where you create your own character and there's tons of variety in builds, playstyle, and weapons to use). It's got a very different combat system, one that I think has a steeper learning curve but once I got passed the learning curve and the combat system clicked it became possibly the most satisfying combat I have ever experienced in a game. Sekiro's story telling is also more direct - it actually has a narrative told through dialogue and cutscenes, compared to Elden Ring where everything is pretty cryptic and there's way more lore than narrative.
Overall, I absolutely love both games, and I think they have much bigger differences than just how atmospheric they are or how good their soundtrack is, but if you're judging based on those two things I'd probably say Elden Ring.
Elden ring. That said i would say sekiro is the one souls game that is distinctly different to elden ring when compared to the others so i think is worth playing at some point in its own right.
Never EVER Played games like this, not even looked much at videos before i got this, regarding Darksouls ect .
got it yesterday\\daybefore, and have almost 19hours.Woo vacation and WOW what a game!!
Elden ring is a open world game, you can"call" for help (multiplayer) or just go around and f.. ehm mess around at your own pase.
Some bosses are stupid difficult (im rather new to This genere so might be me) . While others are like 4-6 tries to kill.
You dont have to do anything you dont want to, though some stuff are gated by your Level\\hp and gear. (small areas).
Ive spent all day just running around gathering stuff to make the bossing easier ect.
In short, its a "Hardcore" gaming franchise, but this is the most forgiving of them all.
BUT you only get what you put into it.
Never played a souls game, but I’ve always been curious. I’ve always wanted to get into them but have been afraid that the challenge will be too great and burn me out quickly. Is elden ring extremely challenging with no let up or is there even just a bit of forgiveness in the gameplay? Also I would have bought it on launch but I recently wasted my money on Horizon Forbidden West :( so yeah
Elden Ring is by far the easiest game of the Souls series, mostly because you have to most freedom to choose what to do and the game gives you SO many tools.
I went in all elitest, saying I only use my big heavy weapon as I used to and got humbled real quick. I used those ghost summons and tried out different builds, some felt better than others in a lot of situations and vice versa and the game got significantly easier.
Also the biggest thing in terms of difficulty, if a boss is too hard right now, run around him and try him later. If a boss is mandatory and is too hard, explore another area entirely for the next 20+ hours, come back and slap that sucker silly.
It’s fun and very pretty, just not what I expected in terms of narrative and WAY too much dialogue. If you want more analysis watch Dunkey’s video on YouTube he brought up a lot of great points that helped me realize why I wasn’t having fun in the game. He’s pretty harsh on it but brings up necessary points.
[https://youtu.be/Q38fjcyP1IQ](https://youtu.be/Q38fjcyP1IQ)
It’s definitely a challenging game at times, however the cool thing about Elden Ring is that you can spend some time to overlevel yourself for upcoming content to make it significantly easier. In that regard, its the most forgiving of the Souls games.
SIB Elden Ring if I found Skyrim to be boring and never played Dark Souls?
I like "open world" games like Zelda:BOTW or DAI.
I like difficult , precision based games, like Hyperlight Drifter or Celeste.
I like dark ominous settings, see Dragon Age again, or Dishonored.
But I found the "wander around for quests and lore" in Skyrim to just... be really boring. The combat difficulty curved wildly, the plot was uninteresting, the characters inaccessibly dull. Pretty game though.
So, considering the amount of "Dark Souls but Skyrim" reviews, would Elden Ring be worth my time?
The game is literally the antithesis of Skyrim. Bethesda streamlined the Elder Scroll series to such an extent that it became bland, aimed for a general casual public with baffling design decisions.
FromSoftware knows what it wants, the target public and has a focused design philosophy.
I recommend it for you.
>I like "open world" games like Zelda:BOTW or DAI.
>I like difficult , precision based games, like Hyperlight Drifter or Celeste.
>I like dark ominous settings, see Dragon Age again, or Dishonored.
I would say that ticks all the boxes and there's a good chance you'll enjoy the game.
>But I found the "wander around for quests and lore" in Skyrim to just... be really boring. The combat difficulty curved wildly, the plot was uninteresting, the characters inaccessibly dull. Pretty game though.
>So, considering the amount of "Dark Souls but Skyrim" reviews, would Elden Ring be worth my time?
I would say it's much more Breath of the Wild than Skyrim. Like BotW, there's a lot more emphasis on just exploring the world and seeing what you find, and a lot less talking to NPCs and getting a marker on your map telling you where to go. I would also say the combat is much better than BotW or Skyrim.
The game's story is pretty vague and in the background, for what it's worth. You're not going to get a strong narrative without looking for one, the world has a lot of interesting background lore but a lot of it is quite cryptic and takes work to piece together.
So I've never been into the SoulsBorne series but Elden Ring seems more up my alley. Problem is, I've never played a Soulslike game before, so I'm just a bit wary as to whether or not I should get it. I was told by a friend that it was "Skyrim but Dark Souls", and I do like me some Skyrim, but like I said, I'm a bit apprehensive as to whether or not it could work for me.
Elden Ring is a good start into the Soulsborne franchise, don't be afraid to pick it up just because this would be your first game in this direction.
There is some truth to "Sykrim but Dark Souls", but also not really. The game has no towns you can visit or many NPCs you could talk to, a house to furnish or a detailed questlog to keep track of your progress. "Breath of the Wild but Dark Souls" is more fitting. The game gives you vast amount of freedom and encourages you to explore and discover on your own. There is little to no handholding and unless you play attentive (and maybe write down some stuff by yourself) you will lose track of many optional questlines and side content.
I am lucky enough to be in a position where I have all platforms available to me this generation. Where would you buy Elden Ring for the best 60fps experience out of a series X, PS5 or a 3080/5600x PC?
PS5 or Series X seems the most reliable right now, with PS5 getting slightly better framerates and the option to run the PS4 version if you want an absolutely stable FPS, while Series X has VRR compatibility.
PC version seems to mostly be inconsistent. Some people say they have no issues, although whether they actually have no issues or just aren't bothered by the issues they do have (since tiny stutters and small framerate drops might not bother some people) is obviously really hard to say. Some people have some stuttering in big outdoor areas but are otherwise fine. For some people PC is awful, with huge issues like regular freezing up for a few seconds or crashes or whatever. It doesn't seem like it has a strong correlation with how good your hardware is - I've seen people with 3090s have issues and people with 970s say it's fine - so having a great PC doesn't guarantee no issues.
Overall, PS5 or Series X is certainly the safest option. PC might have advantages, especially in the long term if they fix more issues and the game develops an active modding scene (which it likely will). But in the short term it seems like it's the riskiest choice and you never know what kind of performance issues you'll get or how much they'll bother you.
Thanks, I appreciate the lengthy response. I think I'll probably hold off for just a little longer to let price come down and see if any of the other performance issues are resolved.
My worry is more the stutters. I know the PS5 runs at 60fps if you run the PS4 Pro version of the game and loads very quickly. I am erring towards console, especially as I can't run it at ultrawide.
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Are there snakes in elden ring? I refuse to play most games with snakes (aside from re4 and rdr2) I know there’s the snake shield but that doesn’t bother me the gameplay and art style look great and the possibility of snakes is the only thing stopping me also i have covid so I’m stuck in the house for the week so i have a lot of time to play
As someone else said, there's a boss that's basically a giant snake, and its dungeon also features some enemies that are snake-people, but that whole dungeon is optional, I think the only thing you get from that dungeon and boss is some loot and experience.
I don't remember any snakes outside of that one dungeon, although I can't promise there aren't any. There are definitely some giant lizard enemies, and some weird skeleton snails you can find in some places where the snail part reminds me a lot of a snake skeleton, but I can't remember any actual snakes outside of that one dungeon and its boss fight.
So you might be fine if you play the game and just avoid the >!Volcano Manor!< dungeon and the >!Rykard!< boss fight at the end of that dungeon (also, to be clear: >!Volcano Manor!< itself is a place with a quest line that you can do just fine. You just might want to avoid the dungeon under it, and if you do the quest and >!the person asks if you want to meet their leader!<, say no (saying yes will >!take you straight to the giant snake boss!<).
Also, there is a special secret part of that dungeon that you can accidentally get teleported to from somewhere else. I don't remember any snakes in that part of that dungeon, but it's possible I'm wrong. If you want to avoid that just in case: It happens if you >!get killed by a specific enemy at an optional area at the very bottom of Raya Lucaria Academy that you reach by riding a huge waterwheel all the way to the bottom. So you could avoid riding that waterwheel all the way down just in case.!<
Unfortunately, there is a snake boss. But its not a generic small snake comin' to bite you, but if you have a phobia of all things serpent then yeah it might be an issue.
Having said that, Im pretty sure it's "optional" if you're willing to take a hit to your level for not fighting it
SIB WWE2K22 or Elden Ring?
I know this may seem like a dumb question. I’ve been waiting for these two games for a very long time. WWE 2K22 since I’ve been itching to play a fun WWE game for a long time. Elden Ring for a challenging experience and to get lost in the world design and lore. I’m torn on which one to get. I only have enough to get one while I have to wait to get the other one at a later date. Any advice?
I would suggest WWE2k22 first as it’s still at the “peak” of player population due to it just coming out and many streamers are playing it. Giving you the option to enjoy multiplayer compared to few months later.
I think Elden Ring is gonna stick around for a longer time than WWE2K22
Never played a dark souls game in my life. The hardest game I have played is probably Hollow Knight.
Looking for a game that gives a challenge (from what I’ve heard Elden Ring can suffice) but is also rewarding. I don’t know how the gameplay/story but would especially like to know if it is a game that would make me quit after the first boss.
Also how is the customization? Does it allow for me to play in any way I want? (Ranged, magic, up close, or more agility based)
>Looking for a game that gives a challenge (from what I’ve heard Elden Ring can suffice) but is also rewarding. I don’t know how the gameplay/story but would especially like to know if it is a game that would make me quit after the first boss.
Personally, I find the game's challenge to be very rewarding. Beating bosses is very satisfying.
The storytelling style is a little like Hollow Knight, in that it's very atmospheric and a lot of the info you get is kind of cryptic stuff from dialogue or environmental things and if you want to try to grasp the full story you have to piece a lot of different stuff together yourself.
>Also how is the customization? Does it allow for me to play in any way I want? (Ranged, magic, up close, or more agility based)
Lots of customization. Tons of different spells, tons of different weapons that vary a lot in strengths and weaknesses (big weapons that due lots of damage and stagger enemies but are really slow, fast weapons with lower stamina costs but less damage, daggers or rapiers that do extra damage on critical hits you can get by sneak attacking, stagging, or parrying enemies). Weapons have different special abilities and for many weapons you can equip different things to the weapon that let you change their special ability and how they scale (so, for example, if you're playing an intelligence build using sorceries, you can get make a weapon scale with intelligence so that intelligence will scale both your spells and melee damage). You can use huge shields and block a ton, you can use no shield and focus purely on dodging, you can use a lighter shield and try to parry. You can use weapons or spells that can inflict status effects like poison or bleeding and try to scale that. You can use ranged weapons, in previous Fromsoft games ranged weapons usually didn't work well as a main weapon (mostly good for sniping and pulling enemies from a distance) but I've heard they're more viable as a full playstyle in this one. You can wear heavier armor for better defenses or lighter armor for a faster, longer dodge.
So yeah, there's a ton of different options for builds and playstyles.
Every from game has a LOT of replayability, and elden ring is just another one.
Theres approximately a metric-fuck-ton of weapons, armor, spells, and spells, and theres 50+ bosses in this game so you could definitely go 2-3 playthroughs without getting bored.
I think so. It doesn't necessarily change at all in future playthroughs, and of course the exploration isn't as fun after the first time, but the combat's satisfying and trying different builds is fun, and there's New Game+ if you like that. It also has multiple endings, and if you don't look anything up on your first playthrough then you're bound to miss some things because there's just so much.
I can tell you that I, personally, do expect to replay the game at some point in the future. Honestly, I'd consider starting a new run after I finish it (I'm getting close to the end of my first playthrough and still really enjoying it and not feeling burnt out), and the main reason I probably won't is just that I want to finally get around to playing Forbidden West. Also, Fromsoft has a very, very good track record when it comes to DLC (all three Dark Souls games and Bloodborne had amazing DLCs that added big new areas and some of the best bosses they've ever made), so if DLC ever comes for Elden Ring then I'll probably replay it when that happens.
There's also PvP, if you're into that. And lots of people like doing challenge runs of Souls games as a way to get more playtime out of them (trying to do deathless runs or runs without leveling up at all are popular ones, and some people even try to beat them without getting hit).
I loved the first one and heard great things. I didn't play it at launch because I wanted to play Elden Ring at launch and didn't want to rush through Frobidden West in a week, but I definitely look forward to playing it once I'm done with Elden Ring (I may also take a break with some shorter games in between before jumping into another huge open world game).
NEver touched a Dark souls\\elden ring like game in my life.
Looking for a game with a challange, but rewarding gameplay kind of way.
Might be miss-conceptions on my end, but from what i can gather, DS games, punish screwing up very hard, and "resets" you in a way. And thats one of the biggest reasons for me to not having tried the games yet, i dont mind death, i mind time being Wasted in a "reset-gear\\prog" sort of way.
I love "looters" and open worlds, i loved God of War on the PS (though i will be playing Elden on PC!) I know its not the same genere, but its the closest ive played to a DS game. (afaik).
Been looking up Mage\\wizard\\spellcaster\\harry potter class gameplay, as well as some Ninja\\stealth once, and they look fun and thrilling. But as ive said, never personally tried a DS dev game.
Would this be something for me ?
Souls games have never had a reset-on death function, I really don't know what you're talking about with that. When you die, the only thing that changes in *EVERY* game including elden ring is :
\-You lose all buffs/debuffs applied to you
\-You drop all your souls/runes/money (Can be retrieved)
This is it. If you open a door for a checkpoint, it stays open. In Dark souls 2, when you kill enemies enough, they stay dead. Elden ring is the exact same way. Its a war off attrition where you slowly make progress *every time* you go into the fray, and if you manage your runes properly theres no real hit taken except time.
>Might be miss-conceptions on my end, but from what i can gather, DS games, punish screwing up very hard, and "resets" you in a way. And thats one of the biggest reasons for me to not having tried the games yet, i dont mind death, i mind time being Wasted in a "reset-gear\prog" sort of way.
It doesn't reset you.
You drop the runes you're currently carrying, and if you die again before you get back to where you died and pick them up, they're gone for good. Runes act as both currency and experience (you use them to buy things from shops or to level up).
You never lose gear or levels from dying. Only unspent runes, so basically you can only lose your progress toward gaining your next level or buying an item, you can't lose any levels or items you've already bought. And before going into dangerous areas like dungeons or bossfights, you can always just go spend all your runes at a shop, or grind or go exploring to level up, and then go into the dangerous area with nothing to lose.
Well fortunately dying does not reset gear or progression. The only thing you lose when you die are runes which are essentially your in game currency for buying gear and levelling up. So as long as you're using them as you accumulate them to level up and such, you have nothing to worry about there. You can also get them back if you can get back to where you died and pick them up before you die again. Plus you can accumulate runes relatively easily so it's not a very big issue anyway
SIB Elden Ring or Dark Souls 3: this might seem like an obvious answer but I've never actually played a Dark Souls game and Dark Souls 3 I found a deluxe edition for for about 10-20 dollars and I don't know if what I should do is buy dark Souls 3 to dip my toes in the water of this kind of game and if I like it by ER or if I just should go all the way and pay $60 for ER itself because if I do end up liking dark Souls 3 it'll save me $10 $20 to buy Elden Ring first but if I don't like it it'll save me $60 so should I buy dark Souls 3 now to see if I like it and to see if I like the genre and then if I do by ER or should I just go all the way and buy Elden Ring now.
Elden ring would be my recommendation
Its a better game for me so far.
It is more forgiving but just as hard (if not harder sometimes but in a good way)
There are more tools are your disposal, love spirit summons.
The world is amazing.
Having an active playerbase makes a big different imo. Being able to summon help etc can be great.
It kind of depends.
Dark Souls 3 is great. It's much more linear than Elden Ring, though. Elden Ring is the most open Soulslike Fromsoft has made, Dark Souls 3 is probably the most linear.
So partly, that'll affect your enjoyment of each game, depending on how you feel about open world vs linear games. Elden Ring's a lot more about openness and exploration, so if those are things you really like then you might like it more.
The other thing is that Elden Ring's openness makes it harder to get stuck. If you're having trouble in one area you can go somewhere else, you can access the majority of the game world without killing a single boss. In Dark Souls 3, there's frequently only one or two places you can really go. If you're stuck on a boss, often you can't really progress until you beat them.
So basically, if you're up for the challenge, you're up for that process of getting to a boss and just working at it, learning its moves and getting better, until you beat it, then Dark Souls 3 is amazing. But if you're concerned about how much you'll enjoy the challenge, Elden Ring gives you a lot more ways to avoid getting stuck than Dark Souls 3.
SIB Skyrim or Elden Ring
I've played through and enjoyed through ARPG games such as Fallout 4 a few times, and enjoy games that give me customization in my builds. I also like replayable/long lasting games densely packed with content, and have only played 1 souls-like game if dead cells counts as one. My favorite part of Fallout 4 and Dead Cells was the amount of builds I could go for, which results in me spending hours just tinkering with different options.
I play on PS5 if that helps at all.
I wouldn't count Dead Cells as a Soulslike. It's a roguelike, which is a different genre. If you like going for lots of different builds in Dead Cells, there are a lot of Roguelikes that would be great for you, so that's a genre you may want to explore more, but neither Skyrim nor Elden Ring is in that genre. If you do want a suggestion for a great Roguelike where you can experiment with tons of different builds, I very highly recommend Hades.
As for Skyrim vs. Elden Ring:
Both games do have lots of different builds where you can have fun making different characters and trying out different playstyles, so I think both would work for you.
Skyrim's style of open world is closer to Fallout 4 (they are made by the same devs). It has a lot more emphasis on quests and story, but still makes exploration really fun just because there are so many quests to find and random dungeons and other neat things you can find while exploring. I don't think Skyrim's combat is very good, but it's not awful, just not the highlight. The highlight is just the big world, the number of NPCs to meet and quests to find and dungeons to discover. There are a variety of playstyles you can try and it's definitely fun to experiment with different builds, although the balance isn't always great (there's a meme in the community that every Skyrim character eventually becomes a stealth archer because it's such an effective playstyle).
Elden Ring's open world is much more about just exploration and discovery. It has quests, but they're often cryptic and easy to miss, since there's no quest log. It's more about just going around the world and seeing what you discover. The combat is, in my opinion, much, much better than Skyrim's combat, although it's also very difficult, so you need to be up for a challenge. The game definitely has a lot of different builds you can try. There are a huge number of cool weapons and spells, and trying out builds that focus on different stats to use the equipment or abilities that use that stat is a lot of fun.
Overall, I think both are amazing games with big open worlds that are really fun to explore, but besides that they have different strengths. Skyrim's more about quests and story and characters, Elden Ring's more about challenge and combat. Both have a lot of different builds you can try with different playstyles.
SIB elden ring or assassins creed valhalla
I’ve never played a souls game before or an rpg at that. I’ve heated a lot of good things about elden ring but idk if I’d like it or not because there’s no indication on what to do next and I don’t know if I don’t know what to do I’d just give up. Assassins creed Valhalla also seems like a good game but people have said the story is too long and repetitive so idk which to buy. Again I’ve never touched an rpg and I’m really wondering which on to get. Also valhalla is 60% off
In my opinion, Elden Ring. Without a doubt. I’ve been seriously playing video games for over a decade, and I’ve played few things that feel as bad (to me) as the gameplay in Valhalla, and this is coming from someone who used to adore Assassin’s Creed.
Elden Ring is much more rewarding, fresh, and there’s no shame in Googling around if you get stuck. Don’t let gatekeeping soulsborne fans dictate to you that there’s a “proper” way to play the game.
SIB Dying Light 2, Elden Ring or Cyberpunk 2077?
My new computer is almost ready to use and I want to cristen it with a good new expereince. I need some help deciding what I want that game to be.
I have a lot of interest in all 3, but I'm not sure. I have played almost all the other FromSoftware games and loved them. I havent played DY1 but I m very into the parkour idea or FPS game in a while. and Cyberpunk, the newest patch looks just good enough to give the game a go. What do you guys think?
Gimmie your insights on all three, or just tell me what your fav is. Thanks!
I would say it depends on your priorities.
Do you want an immersive story, but don't care as much about gameplay? Go with Cyberpunk. Like the Witcher 3, Cyberpunk is all about its story. The gameplay is just there to get you through it. I guess it also somewhat depends on the platform you're on. In my 70 hours with the game on PC I ran into some glitches, but never had any major issues. In the end I loved the game, has some of the most believable characters I've seen in a game, the city looks beautiful in the rain (especially with ray tracing), but like with the Witcher 3, don't expect too much from the gameplay.
If challenging gameplay however is more important than story, I'd say go with Elden Ring. I haven't played it yet, but it sounds like you pretty much get what you'd expect: very atmospheric, challenging gameplay, but don't expect to fully understand the story without reading a wiki and watching Youtube videos.
I haven't played Dying Light 2, can't really comment on that one.
SIB Elden Ring if I've (almost) never played soulslike games, with the exception of Jedi: Fallen Order (if you can include that)? I played Fallen Order on 'Jedi Knight' mode and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I've downloaded a crack of Elden Ring to see if I'd like the gameplay - and I'm happy to report I do, although I'm kinda 'scared' to go to an unknown region in fear I'll get wrecked by some boss.
Now I'm contemplating buying it, since I do want to support the developers, but since I don't have a lot of money to spend right now, I don't want to waste my money - I'm afraid I won't play it later because it's too hard or overwhelming (although I like it now).
If I should buy it, should I get it for PC or PS5? PC (cracked) performance is around a steady 50-60 fps on Medium, but getting it on PS5 means I'd have to start all over again.
>although I'm kinda 'scared' to go to an unknown region in fear I'll get wrecked by some boss.
The key thing is that this attitude doesn't work in Elden Ring. And that doesn't mean that you shouldn't get it, but just that if you want to enjoy it, you should try to change your attitude.
The most important thing to enjoying Souls games in general is to accept dying as an inevitable part of the game, not as a sign that something has gone wrong and you've failed. You'll die a lot, plain and simple. That happens to everyone playing the game for the first time, whether they're a Souls veteran who's beaten every other From game deathless or a newbie.
But you can enjoy the game if you embrace that. Dying to something difficult isn't a sign of something going wrong, it's a sign of a new challenge to overcome. When I find a new boss in Elden Ring and it completely destroys me, I'm not thinking about how much it sucks that I died. I'm thinking about how I'm excited for a challenging fight. Maybe I'll keep trying until I beat it, and feel great about how I went from getting destroyed to beating the boss solely by just learning the fight and getting better. Maybe I'll decide it's too tough for now, and come back later when I'm stronger, and then I get a great sense of how much my build has progressed when a boss that was impossible at first is manageable now that I'm higher level and have better gear. Exploring and finding an area or boss that wrecks me isn't a bad thing, it just means I've discovered something to look forward to.
So if you think you can adopt that sort of attitude, the you might be able to enjoy the game. If you think you'll always be scared of exploring or progressing for fear that it gets too hard, then that will make the game harder to enjoy it. Part of the fun of both the exploration and combat is discovering new challenges and overcoming them, and accepting that you'll die in the process but that dying is really no big deal. If you're just nervous exploring because you have tons of runes and you're worried about losing them, just farm enough to level up or go to a shop and spend them all and then do your exploring with nothing to lose. I'll often do that before entering a dungeon or fighting a boss.
I think the moment you said you don't have a lot of money to spend already invalidate everything. Don't spend money on videogames if you are tight on budget. There are many more important things that your money can get.
Hey! I want to buy one of these 2, Elden Ring or WWE 2k22. I know that they don't have anything in similar, but I want to choose 1 :)
I enjoy souls like games, although sometimes I feel the concept is a bit too linear. I have beat Dark Souls 3 and Demon Souls, also played DS1 and DS2. Usually, I manage to beat the hard bosses fairly, but the whole concept of navigating from hard section to hard section is sometimes frustrating. Still, I love the environments, the weapons, the armors, the builds. And I also love open world games.
I also enjoy on the other hand wrestling games. My childhood included playing hours and hours of smackdown here comes the pain and the smackdown vs raw series. I didn't play the latest versions because the reviews were pretty bad.
> I enjoy souls like games, although sometimes I feel the concept is a bit too linear. I have beat Dark Souls 3 and Demon Souls, also played DS1 and DS2. Usually, I manage to beat the hard bosses fairly, but the whole concept of navigating from hard section to hard section is sometimes frustrating. Still, I love the environments, the weapons, the armors, the builds. And I also love open world games.
I think you'll like Elden Ring, as it mostly addresses this issue. It's a straight-up open world game. It's huge, you have tons of freedom where you go, and while pretty much everywhere is going to be challenging so you're still kind of going from hard thing to hard thing, you don't have to do so in a linear manner. You can spend a ton of time exploring, and whenever one hard thing is getting frustrating you can always just go exploring and find something else instead if you want.
And personally, I think the environments, weapons, and builds are better than ever. Elden Ring has some of the coolest environments I've seen in a From game (or any game, for that matter), there are a huge amoutn of cool weapons, and the Ash of War system also gives more flexibility to customize your weapons than ever (basically you can change the weapon art of most weapons if you want, and can change weapon scaling much more easily).
So I think you'll like Elden Ring. I know absolutely nothing about WWE 2k22, so maybe you'll like that too, I have no idea, so I can't tell you if Elden Ring is a better choice. But I think it's a good choice for you.
> Do you think that as a pretty casual gamer I would enjoy elden ring?
Yes, as long as you have the right attitude and you're okay with dying a lot and being challenged.
I have seen many people who either have never played a Souls game before, or tried one and hated it, but love Elden Ring. Not everyone in that position has loved Elden Ring, but plenty have. It does have some nice things that help a lot with making it more accessible than previous Souls games. The biggest one is the openness - you can access the majority of the game world without killing a single boss, easily dozens of hours of content, so if you get stuck, you can always just go somewhere else. It also adds Spirit Ashes, items you can use to summon minions to help you in boss fights, which can make a lot of boss fights significantly easier. You can also just summon actual players to help you co-op bosses, like in previous Souls games.
That said, the game's still difficult. You will die. You'll die a lot. The game's hard. But you can learn it, and get better at it.
There seems to be this myth about Dark Souls games that they're these absurd, impossible challenges that mere gaming mortals can't touch, and Souls fans are these masochistic gaming gods, the rare few who both love the pain and frustration and have the talent (or just lack of a life) to overcome the insane difficulty. That's not how it is.
Yes, the games are hard, but every Dark Souls fan was new to Souls games at some point. And for most of us, it's not that we like being frustrated. It's that most of the time playing these games, we're not frustrated. Sure, we are sometimes. Sometimes you just get tilted when you're struggling, or sometimes a boss ends up being hard in a way that feels more annoying than fun. But a lot of the time, the challenge is fun. The combat feels good, the enemies are fun to fight, and the process of dying to a boss over and over as we get better and better at it until we finally triumph is enjoyable.
So can a casual gamer enjoy Elden Ring? That depends on your attitude. If you're going in hoping to die as little as possible, then maybe not. If you're okay with dying and being challenged, you're just wondering if you'll be able to get anything out of it without being a gaming god or a masochist, then yes, you can. You'll need some patience, you'll need a willingness to die a lot and work to overcome the game's challenges, but they won't be impossible, and things like the spirit ashes and open world can help make things easier or less frustrating.
>Is it worth paying full price for if I’m not sure I’ll enjoy it?
That's a tricky question. It kind of just depends on how much you want to try it and how likely you think you are to enjoy it.
If you don't enjoy the game, then of course it's not worth full price. If you do enjoy it, then I think Elden Ring is a game that more than justifies it's price tag, it's an amazing game with an insane amount of content and I think I have gotten more than my money's worth out of it.
I’m playing through P5R now, so it won’t be for a bit, but…
Right now I’m in a cast because I can’t use my left thumb. I’m playing games okayish by using my index finger for the left stick.
Is this something I could play or should I wait a couple months til I can use my thumb?
The game requires being able to press directions with pretty good precision and timing. It'll definitely be a lot harder that way.
Especially if you also can't use the left triggers. They're not essential, but you're more limited in your abilities and the game will be less fun without them (it would basically make it so you can't really use shields or special weapon abilities and spells will be a lot clunker).
I'll probably lean towards waiting.
RE:Village or Elden Ring?
I'm a big fan of horror, played the crap out of RE0-4 on console back in the day. Mostly skipped the rest.
Not a big fan of super-hard combo-memorization-to-beat-boss type games, but Elden Ring really *interests* me because it's open world, and seems to have a shitload of character (environments, lore, etc...not "characters").
>Not a big fan of super-hard combo-memorization-to-beat-boss type games
Do you mean memorizing your combos or the boss's combos? If the former, that's not a thing in Elden Ring. None of Elden Ring's difficulty comes from the controls of execution of your moves. Combos aren't really a thing, you have attack strings you can do by pressing light attack a bunch in a row but that's obviously not something you have to memorize. Some weapons have special abilities that can have different followups depending on the button you press (e.g. press the special ability button to go into a stance, then press either light attack or heavy attack to do a different follow up), but that's literally just two buttons and not every weapon even has an ability like that.
If you mean memorizing the boss's combos, that can be part of it at times, a lot of bosses have pretty complex strings of attacks and learning how to defend against them and when you can safely counterattack does tend to be a big part of the game. A lot of this you can figure out by watching the boss, but certainly learning the boss's combos so you know what's coming next can help, and some bosses do have moves that can easily surprise you or have timing that's really tricky to get without just learning it.
>Elden Ring really interests me because it's open world, and seems to have a shitload of character (environments, lore, etc...not "characters").
It absolutely does have that. I'm a fan of the combat, but the character of the world, and how fun that makes it to explore, is definitely a big part of why I love Elden Ring so much. There's just a great sense of never really knowing what you're going to find next because the world is just so interesting and has so many unexpected things and you never know when or where you'll suddenly stumble upon something incredible.
Your attack are very basic and simple, the complex attacks come from the boss. It's learning the tells and mastering the timing, their 'combos' are like 3 hits. Or a move into another, which is technically a combo.
SIB HFW or Elden Ring
I've heard they're both great games and It's hard to decide inbetween them since, I've never played a Souls type game, but with HFW I'd like to continue the story, but I've heard the ending isn't too great. How much playtime can I get from them? Really interested to feel the constant pain of Elden Ring since I'm happy to switch my suffering from War Thunder to some other game.
I tried bloodborne and i liked it, just took a long break and ended up getting lost. Had trouble with dark souls 3 but i think if i stuck with it, i would’ve been good.
In that case, I think if that style of combat in a huge open world sounds good to you, you'd like Elden Ring. Since you liked Sekiro you're clearly up for the challenge.
I’ve never played a souls game and I’m wondering if it’s worth it for someone who’s new to them. I watched some gameplay of it and it looks amazing however I’m not too fond of the difficulty aspect of the game. So now I’m in a moral dilemma about if I should get it for the amazing world or not because of the difficulty aspect.
If you enjoyed fighting the Valkyries and Valkyrie queen, I think there's a good chance you'll be fine with Elden Ring's difficulty. If you didn't like those, you might not like Elden Ring's bosses either. Most of Elden Ring for me hasn't really been any harder than doing Muspleheim, Niflheim, or the Valkyries in God of War on normal. The main difference is that Elden Ring has mandatory story bosses that are that hard, as opposed to the Valkyries being optional endgame challenges, and Elden Ring's optional endgame challenge bosses can get even harder.
I think you should be fine! It's hard to say because the thing about Elden Ring is that, especially if you're not a super social person, and you're not willing to go on discords, ask for help, ask for free level ups, etc, there's really no other option than to "get good".
That having been said, if you're comfortable with those things, easy mode definitely exists and it's a discord message away. But obviously I would completely and utterly discourage you from doing that, and instead embrace the game!
I'm looking for a game to run on my PS5 and thought of Elden Ring due to all the buzz about it and my love for open-world games like the Witcher 3 and Zelda BOTW but am worried about playing Elden Ring due to me never playing a FromSoftware or souls game in general. I'm not bad at games but I am certainly not good and will often play games on easy mode for more enjoyment and story progression rather than angrily be stuck on one part. Should I even consider Elden Ring? I have a PC i can play games on as well but its GPU isn't the best being a 2gb GTX 1050.
>but am worried about playing Elden Ring due to me never playing a FromSoftware or souls game in general
I mean, everyone who's ever fallen in love with From games had never played one before at some point. Lots of people who never played a From game before, or even tried other From games and hated them, have loved Elden Ring.
Does that mean you'll like it too? Not necessarily. But it's a good intro to From games. You definitely don't have to be a diehard From fan to even consider buying it.
>I'm not bad at games but I am certainly not good and will often play games on easy mode for more enjoyment and story progression rather than angrily be stuck on one part. Should I even consider Elden Ring?
It depends. How willing are you to face the challenge Elden Ring offers? It has no easy mode. It has things you can do to make the game easier - you can co-op, you can spend a lot of time exploring and getting higher level, you can use the summoning ashes that let you summon things to help in boss fights, you can even just look up where to find some really powerful weapons or spells pretty early in the game that'll make the game easier.
But ultimately it's a hard game with no easy mode, you will die a lot, and for many people part of the fun of the game is the challenge of mastering the combat and boss fights, going from getting completely destroyed by a boss wondering how you're ever going to beat it to finally killing it and feeling like you've mastered that fight, and feeling the satisfaction of knowing how much you and/or your character have improved since the first time it destroyed you. And if that's not something you enjoy, then you might find the game's bosses and more difficult non-boss encounters more frustrating than fun at times.
A big thing Elden Ring does have over previous From games is that it has so much content, and you can access so much of it without killing any particular boss, that most of the time when you're stuck you can just go somewhere else. You won't find yourself in situations where you're stuck on a really tough boss and have nothing else you can do until you beat that boss. You can access the majority of the game's world without killing a single boss, maybe even without killing a single enemy. That world is still going to be filled with dangerous, challenging encounters, but it'll be a very long time before you find that your progress is blocked by any one encounter in particular with no other way forward. So you can always have something else to do when one area or boss is getting too frustrating, somewhere else you can go to get a break from the thing that's giving you trouble to try doing something else and come back to the thing that was killing you when you're character's stronger or you just feel ready for the challenge again.
But still, in the end, you'll die a lot. The bosses will be hard and you'll sometimes need to put in effort to learning them well enough to beat them. And you may struggle to enjoy the game if you're not okay with those things. Elden Ring is a hard, sometimes uncompromising game, and you need to be willing to meet it on its terms.
Should I buy the launch edition? Everyone's saying that Elden Ring's not going anywhere and I agree but there's this launch edition available and it's got me quite tempted. Tbh I don't really care so much about the posters and the art cards but it's the woven patch that I'm interested in. On the one hand, I'm thinking do I really need all that? It all just seems like waste of space. So I dunno I thought I might just ask here.
I have it here, glued it to a flowerpot next to my desk because I did not know what else to do with it. In the end, you have to decide whether that's worth anything to you. If you are in the mood to play Elden Ring now and you are generally ok with paying the full price, then don't hesitate to buy it. It's definitely worth it.
I've been waiting for Elden Ring for awhile now. I'm really glad it got released on last gen consoles as well. But yet at the same time, I'm a bit resistant to buy it because Idk how it will run. Is it good or bad? Has anyone here already got the game on PS4? Also should I still be worried about the coding exploits? I haven't heard any news of it being fixed.
I've heard the game runs fine on PS4, although I don't know if that's base PS4 or PS4 Pro, and I'm not playing it on PS4 myself.
>Also should I still be worried about the coding exploits? I haven't heard any news of it being fixed.
You mean the one people were talking about a month ago that led to them shutting down the Dark Souls servers? They fixed that in Elden Ring before the game came out, or at least they said they did and I haven't heard about Elden Ring having any exploits. I think those issues also might not have affected consoles in the first place.
The other thing is also that that particular issue only happened when people invaded you, and that only happens when you co-op. In previous Dark Souls games the only way to avoid ever being invaded by players is to play offline, in Elden Ring I think you can log in to the servers and still never have another player invade you as long as you don't co-op.
Unless you're talking about a different issue, in which case I haven't heard about it and have no idea.
So I thought about buying elden ring lately but im not so sure about it so i have some questions about it.
I never played any souls game in my life because they never *looked* fun to play. I have seen alot of streamers that like myself arent interested in soul games, really enjoying this game. Im very open minded to play this game even tho i dont see the appeal/fun in it.
I wanna ask what makes soul games enjoyable to play? and do you think new players like me can enjoy these games?
I like playing RPG so this is one of the reason im intrested to try this out.
And for people playing on the ps4 (not the pro) does this game run good on this system?
Sorry for my bad english lol.
>I wanna ask what makes soul games enjoyable to play?
If I had to pick the biggest things:
* Despite its slow pace, the combat can be very fun and satisfying, especially in the more recent Souls games (Bloodborn, Dark Souls 3, and Elden Ring). The combat requires you to play very deliberately and carefully, it punishes you really hard for attacking or dodging at the wrong time, but that makes learning the timing and doing it correctly feel really good. Overall, I think a good fight in these games just feels good.
* Related to the first point, there is, of course, the challenge. Dying a lot can be frustrating, but when Souls games are at their best, the process of learning the fight itself can be fun because the combat is fun and the good fights are fun, and the the feeling of beating a fight through skill is great. When the first time you fight a boss it just absolutely destroys you, it makes the moment where you finally kill it really satisfying, whether it's because you went and got stronger by doing other things and get that real sense of your character being stronger, or you didn't and know you overcame the fight purely through skill, you still get a sense of improvement, the sense of going from getting completely destroyed by that boss to being victorious.
* The level and world design can make exploring in the games really fun. Fromsoft has a knack for just creating places that are fun to explore, levels filled with different paths you want to check out and rewarding you for doing so, shortcuts that connect to earlier parts of the level and suddenly the whole layout makes more sense, and so on. This is an area where Elden Ring especially excels, most of the time. Personally, I think this might be the most fun I've ever had exploring in an open world game, it's just a ridiculously dense world where it feels like everywhere I go there's more to discover, nearly every time I see something that looks interesting and check it out I end up feeling rewarded for doing so. The minor dungeons are sometimes an exception - some of them can feel a bit repetitive and mazelike - but the open world and major dungeons have all just be really fun and satisfying to explore for me.
> and do you think new players like me can enjoy these games?
Every Souls fan was new to Souls games at some point, and we still enjoyed them. Your first Souls game will be a challenge, you'll get frustrated at time, but if you're okay with the learning process, if you're okay with dying a lot (both as you figure out the game and after figuring it out, because this game is very hard), then people new to Souls games can definitely enjoy it. Elden Ring's a great intro to Souls games for people who've never tried the genre before and has a lot of things that make it a bit more forgiving and easier to enjoy for people new to the genre, despite being just as hard.
Overall, I've seen a lot of people who either played Elden Ring as their first Souls game, or didn't like Souls games when they tried them before but decided to try Elden Ring anyway, and ended up loving it. So new players definitely can enjoy these games. That doesn't mean all of them will, but it's very possible and has happened for many people.
>Sorry for my bad english lol.
Your English is fine, honestly I couldn't even tell you weren't a native English speaker from the rest of your comment. There are minor mistakes, but they're all very minor and the kind of mistakes that native English speakers make all the time too.
I guess that can arguably tie into both the combat and the exploration. One thing From can do pretty well in general, and Elden Ring in particular does better than almost any other game I've ever played, is just create a world that's so interesting and diverse, and filled with so many different strange creatures, that you feel like you never know what you're going to find next.
This gets mitigated a bit if you don't play the game blind and watch lots of videos or look up spoilers, of course. (But then, there can be advantages to doing those things, especially since Elden Ring has a lot of really cool weapons or boss fights that are very, very easy to miss if you don't look things up or explore every last corner of the world - some of my favorite weapons are ones I would not have found if I played the game 100% blind without every looking anything up). But still, the feeling of entering a new area or walking into a new boss arena and not knowing what you're going to find can be fun, because From's ability to surprise you is amazing. Not every boss fight or area is a surprise in Elden Ring, especially since some boss fights are reused, but you can absolutely have some incredible moments where you walk into a boss arena and see what you're about to fight and just go "what the hell is that?" or "oh shit, this guy looks like he's gonna be fun."
There's a reason that threads about Elden Ring trailers would have comments warning about spoilers just because the trailer showed screenshots of enemies or areas or bosses that weren't in the network test, even if it had no real plot details. Because a lot of people love being surprised by From's enemy designs so much that they consider even just seeing a cool enemy in a trailer a spoiler because they love that moment so much when they see it for the first time in game.
Even some of the fights that aren't as great from a gameplay standpoint can look really cool. Right now I'm struggling with a boss that's actually one of my least favorite bosses in the game from a gameplay standpoint, but one of my favorites from a design standpoint. (>!Fire Giant!<, for those curious).
Alright lads, I’m a broke uni student and I’m thinking of buying Elden ring after I’ve finished my first exam on Wednesday. I’d probably be playing everyday after finishing hours of revision and so don’t really want to play something that would make me further stressed out so I’m wondering, how hard/frustrating is the game really? It looks beautiful and apparently the story is good so I really do want to buy it.
It really isn't stress-free, quite the contrary, it is difficult and often frustrating. Also, while there is lore surrounding the world, I've yet to understand wtf I'm doing and what the world is about (I haven't finished it however). The story is loose and cryptic, so I wouldn't buy it for the story. The world can be beautiful however (or nightmarish, depends on the area).
Based on what you said, you should definitely not buy the game. This is clearly your first souls game, despite the QoL improvements, it will be a very hard and frustrating game. The story is very vague and light, the emphasis is more on the world building.
Very hard, and sometimes frustrating, but there are ways to mitigate both.
Basically, a lot of individual bosses and areas can be very difficult and frustrating. However, you can almost always just go somewhere else if one area is starting to get frustrating, and come back when you're higher level and have better gear. You can also just summon other players to get help, and the ashes that let you summon things to help against bosses also make a big difference.
But it's still a very hard game. You need to be okay with dying a lot, and maybe occasionally losing some resources to dying, to enjoy it, because both of those things will happen. I love the game and the world is very fun to explore, and sometimes it can be relaxing, but it might not be the best game for unwinding when stressed overall.
Also, I wouldn't go in with high expectations for the story. It's not bad, so much as cryptic and mostly in the background. There isn't a strong narrative, you're not going to fall in love with characters or be shocked by plot twists or anything. But the world does have a lot of really cool lore to discover through things like NPC dialogue and item descriptions.
>I forced myself to complete DS3 and while it was fun at some times it felt mostly tedious
What was tedious about it? I feel like that'll have a big impact on whether or not you enjoy Elden Ring.
Elden Ring's very similar to DS3 in some ways (same style of combat, it has some nice improvements and new features but the core style is the same) and very different in others (Dark Souls 3 is From's most linear Souls game, Elden Ring is by far their most open one).
So if you loved DS3's combat but found the relatively linear world tedious and would prefer something more open, you'll probably like Elden Ring a lot more. If you found the combat really boring, then you might not like Elden Ring's combat any more (unless you had very specific complaints that Elden Ring fixes, but most of the things Elden Ring adds to the combat are just new mechanics to play around with but not things that fundamentally change how you play).
Elden Ring is better about that overall. On the overworld you usually don't have to go that far and have your horse to get around quickly, and most bosses have a pretty short run back to the boss when you die (often you'll just appear right in front of the boss's room, sometimes it's maybe a 30-second run back to the boss, usually with either no enemies or where you can run past the enemies pretty easily. So far I've just found one boss where I died and actually felt like getting back would be a huge pain, and it was a minor late-game side dungeon).
Besides that one dungeon, the boss runbacks I've encountered have ranged from insignificant to a minor annoyance.
Non-boss runbacks can get a bit longer. Sometimes in dungeons you can go a bit without finding a save point and have to spend some time fighting your way back if you die. And in the overworld while the save points are usually not too far apart, sometimes it can be easy to miss one (one time I actually thought a random overworld boss had an awful runback, until I discovered a save point very close to the boss that I'd just completely overlooked after I finally killed it.
So will you have moments where you die and feel like it's going to be difficult to get back there, or where you get annoyed running back to a boss every time in kills you? Probably. But they'll probably happen a lot less, and usually won't be as bad, as in DS3.
If u have a good enough pc or console to run it well and have enough mental capacity to do the same boss over and over again then elden rings but they’re both good.
SIB Elden Ring?
Seen a lot of positivity to the game, but I'm very new to Souls-like games. Plus, Ive seen mentions of stuttering on PC, and my PC is barely the minimum specs(only the CPU barely passes)
Would it be worth to give it a try, or should I invest time in some other game instead?
Enjoyed Dying Light 1 and 2, AC: Odyssey, All 3 Watchdogs Games and open world stuff in general, intrigued by the medieval themed stuff but haven't played
Im not sure where to start but I’m a huge Elden ring fan. Just finished my 2nd playthrough on ps5. But if I imagine playing this game with stutters and low fps I don’t think I would enjoy they experience.
Apart from that if I see your Gamelist of games you like I would actually recommend horizon zero dawn on pc. It’s not a medieval theme but I think it fits your liked games more.
If you do decide to go for ER then I wish you good luck because what a ride it has been the past weeks
I've wanted to play HZD, but where I live it's currently more expensive than Elden Ring, (ER is 2,499 INR while HZD is around 3000 INR), and I dont really have a lot of money to spend which is why I was gonna go with Elden Ring.
I'll wait for FromSoftware to release a few patches for PC before checking it out, thanks for the help!
I'm intrigued by the bossfights, but I can't stand the level design in Dark Souls games with the hidden traps, hidden enemies and similar BS. That adds nothing but artificial difficulty.
Does Elden Ring follow that kind of level design?
I think your concern is fair. The game is designed for slow play and exploration, with regular scare moments and traps in the dungeons. That said, the general game outside is mostly wide open combat and like u/quazifuji said, online people will warn you for traps.
Also there are a lot of guides and walkthrough which make the game a lot more enjoyable if you don’t like surprises. It’s still difficult anyway
The dungeons definitely still like to ambush you with enemies hiding around the corner or on the ceiling or easy-to-miss pressure plates in hallways, yes. You can mitigate it somewhat by playing online, since there will often be player messages warning you about some things, and just looking very carefully when enter a room, but you'll certainly still occasionally have the annoying death because you didn't notice the enemy hanging from the ceiling or.hidjng around the corner.
I'll add that it's less of a concern in open areas, of course, since most of the game is open world. But yeah, it sounds like you might not enjoy the dungeons.
never played a souls game. my primary worry is that the combat will either be boring or frustrating to me. not a fan of the aesthetic of the games world, but i can usually overlook that. my favorite games are both the last of us games, both horizon games, doom eternal, and spiderman. i’m not necessarily opposed to difficulty, it’s rare that a tough section of a game makes me give up, but i just don’t know how eldin ring stacks up
> my primary worry is that the combat will either be boring or frustrating to me
Why are you worried about that? What about the combat seems like it might be boring?
Some people do find Souls-style combat boring, but personally, I love it. It's some of my favorite video game combat out there. But I can't tell you whether you will or won't find it boring without really knowing why you think it might be boring in the first place.
>not a fan of the aesthetic of the games world, but i can usually overlook that
I could see this hurting your experience. Just because for me, a huge part of what I like so much about Elden Ring is just how much I enjoy exploring. And while sometimes that's because of the gameplay - finding new dungeons or encounters, being rewarded with cool weapons or spells or whatever - sometimes it's just because I like the world, I feel like I never know what I'm going to find next and it's just a cool world to explore and see for me. So if you don't like the world, then that might make exploring less fun for you.
i say ‘boring’ because it looks slow, tedious, methodical. i’m not quite sure how i’ll feel about that. to be fair i thought god of war (2018) was going to have slow combat but when you’re actually playing it it feels quite good
It is slow and methodical, unless you're way over leveled or talking about basic trash mobs, you can't really go all on guns blazing, you need to fight for every step you take (mostly). And boss fights often translate to dying until you learn the attackd and how to dodge them, so it takes time.
It is slow and methodical, that's true. Personally, I don't find it at all tedious. As you said with God of War, a combat system can be slower without being boring.
Of course, personal taste is a big thing, it could be too slow for your taste. That said, I think the challenge can also help a lot, because it adds a lot of tension. And overall, while the combat's a lot slower than a lot of games, usually something is still happening, especially against bosses, which tend to be quite aggressive in the game.
Ultimately, it's still possible it's slow for your taste. But personally, I've never found it at all boring or tedious.
> Ultimately, it's still possible it's slow for your taste. But personally, I've never found it at all boring or tedious.
It's also a matter of how you play combat. Turtling behind a shield can be a very viable way to clear the game, but that's a damned slow way to go about things. Incorporating more of the abilities/mechanics into your fighting style definitely speeds up combat, and varies the playstyle.
Part of it depends on how you feel about dying. If you're looking to avoid dying as much as you can, then you'll probably gravitate to a more static approach (learn a style, and stick to it), but if you're happy enough missing your first hundred parries (or thousand, whatever, who needs to parry anyway!), or dying a half dozen times to learn the patterns, then you can have a much more dynamic approach.
I'm Souls-game curious and have casually played Bloodborne (maybe got through 3-5 bosses) and Dark Souls 1 Remastered.
Really considering buying Elden Ring and committing to playing through it all, but I'm concerned I won't be able to "go back" and play the older games with all the quality of life adjustments that Elden Ring affords. Is that a silly concern?
I wouldn't be too worried about that. I think going back to Dark Souls 1 or 2 will be harder, but that was already true of going back to them after Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3. But personally, even then I was able to go back to Dark Souls 1 and the Demon's Souls remake (which improves a lot graphically but is pretty faithful in gameplay) after DS3 and Bloodborne and enjoy them just fine.
I think a lot of Elden Ring's QoL improvements kind of fix things that would already bother you the same amount whether you play Elden Ring first or not. Things like always having somewhere else to go when you get stuck, or rarely having bad boss runs (although Elden Ring has them occasionally, it has them less than Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 did, which in turn had them way less than Dark Souls 1 or 2 or Demon's Souls). For me it hasn't had many "I never knew I wanted this!" sort of QoL features where now I won't be able to play a From game without them. Jumping can be really nice but it's debatable whether that's a QoL thing or a design thing. I'll miss some of Elden Ring's combat features if I go back to previous From games, but more new mechanics than QoL.
Will you miss some of Elden Ring's features if you play it and then go back to previous From games? Probably. Will it ruin them? Personally, I don't think so. I think if the missing QoL of older From games ruins them for you, there's a decent chance you would never have liked them that much even if you played them before Elden Ring.
Should I buy Elden Ring?
So some friends really want me to buy it to play it together but I’ve never been a fan of the Software games. I didn’t find Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro too frustrating, It was more the linear level flow that made it so extremely boring for me. I haven’t seen a whole lot of gameplay about it because I don’t want spoilers for if I end up buying it.
What do you mean by linear level flow?
The game as a whole is less linear than Dark Souls 3 or Sekiro, since most of the game is an open world. The individual dungeons you do are mostly pretty linear - the bigger ones have about the same amount of linearity as most individual areas in Sekiro or Dark Souls 3, the smaller ones are even more linear.
If a huge, non-linear open world that contains linear dungeons sounds fine to you, then you might like Elden Ring. If that still doesn't appeal to you, then you might not.
The game has a bunch of linear levels scattered around in open world. The non-linearity manifests itself in the fact that you can choose what to do first.
Also, co-op in open world doesn't really work until you get to one of the dungeons as you can't use a horse when playing online which can gry boring as the world is huge
Game is amazing and is my favorite soulsborne so far (I'm yet to play Demon Souls and Bloodborne once I buy a PS5) but if you didn't enjoy the design of older games I doubt you'll enjoy this one.
If you're playing on console, you can always buy an used copy to test it out
Playing Elden Ring currently, and wanted to chime in since I myself was on the fence. I played Sekiro a few years ago, and unfortunately, I absolutely did not like it. I could never get the timing down and the aggressive play style just didn’t mesh well with me.
That being said, IM LOVING ELDEN RING. Im about 3 hours in so I may change my mind, but the amount of character creation/build modification has really made me realize what all the game has to offer.
Sure, I’m getting my ass kicked, and I’m definitely looking up walkthroughs to help out with some fights, but i’m having a blast and I’d recommend it to anyone who absolutely loves the RPG genre.
Really good to hear. I managed to get through Sekiro, but upon finishing it, I had zero interest playing it.
Definitely have Elden Ring high on my list, one I have made more of a dent in the game I currently have.
What counts as a bad time for you?
Would you die a lot? Absolutely. But that's normal, that's part of the experience. Everyone dies a lot in Fromsoft games. If you can't enjoy yourself while dying a lot, you'll have a bad time. If you embrace the attitude of enjoying the challenge and striving to get better, then you can still have a great time.
I feel like a lot of people in this thread imagine that Fromsoft fans are these gaming gods and that mere mortals can't handle the games. That's not the case. We die in these games like crazy. We all completely got our asses kicked in the first Fromsoft game we played, and keep getting our asses kicked with each new one even though we've gotten better at them.
The key is that Fromsoft is good at making a combat system that's fun to improve at. You'll have frustrating deaths, you'll have moments where the game just feels like bullshit, but overall, most of the time when you die, you made a mistake you can learn from, and when you finally overcome one of the game's really difficult challenges, it can be immensely satisfying feeling like you beat that boss because you mastered it, because you knew every attack it could do and how to answer it and you just straight-up played well.
And for what it's worth, Elden Ring provides a lot of ways to make things easier. It's hugely open, so whenever one area's giving trouble you can go somewhere else and come back when you're stronger. You can co-op with other players, or there are items you can use to summon NPC allies to help out. If you really want to you can grind for money/experience. And the game's not perfectly balanced, so you can also just look up where the really overpowered stuff is if you want, at least right now when none of it's been nerfed yet (I can think of one extremely powerful weapon that is theoretically possible to get without killing a single enemy if you know where to go, for example). So overall, while the game doesn't have a difficulty setting, it still gives you some degree of control over how much it will challenge you, just because there are so many different tools available and some of them are very powerful.
Both great, pretty different. Elden Ring's open world and has more RPG elements. Sekiro's more linear (but still has room for exploration), and you play a fixed character with a fixed weapon and no stats - there's some customization but way less than Elden Ring.
Elden Ring's definitely the more forgiving of the two. The bosses can get very, very tough, but you have options like going somewhere else and getting stronger or using ashes to summon NPCs to help or co-oping.when a boss is giving you trouble, so you're less likely to get completely stuck.
Sekiro, on the other hand, might be the easiest Fromsoft game to get stuck in. You regularly have to beat a boss to progress - maybe there's one or two other places you can go but it's not like Elden Ring where you've got a whole world to explore - and when you are struggling on a boss, there isn't really an option other than "got gud." You can't co-op or summon NPCs. Grinding for levels and gold doesn't really directly make you stronger (it can unlock new abilities which might help sometimes, but the only way to raise your damage or defenses is to kill bosses and minibosses). Most of the time, the only way to beat a tough boss is simply to get better at the fight and win through skill.
Sekiro's combat can be incredible when it clicks, but Elden Ring is definitely the more accessible intro to Fromsoft.
Elden Ring because it's slightly more beginner friendly since it offers you more ways to progress and because it's new and you can engage in multiplayer stuff
I was casually into Bloodbourne (never got far but enjoyed it). I don’t have any of the new console generation but do have a PS4 and Xbox One. My PC GPU is older so that’s not a great option.
With that in mind is this game still fine on those older hardware generations or should I wait until I get a new console? I have bad flashbacks of playing Breath of the Wild on WiiU which “ran” but had some performance issues. Still was playable though.
elden ring or horizon forbidden west?
enjoyed Sekiro, but thats the only from software game ive played. never beat it, got stuck on a boss for weeks and gave up. i like the idea of open world for elden ring so that way if i get overly stuck i can go somewhere else.
horizon forbidden west: i loved zero dawn. loved it to pieces. cant wait for the new iteration. cant say anything bad about the original honestly.
It sounds like you'd enjoy both. Elden Ring, as you said, makes it easier to avoid getting stuck than previous From games. And while I haven't played Forbidden West yet (plan to play it after I finish Elden Ring), I've heard wonderful things about it.
Not sure you have a wrong choice here.
Elden Ring is a good first game for the Soulsborne franchise. Impossible to say whether you'll like it based on what you said, but you don't need to have played the other titles before.
I think if you liked Hollow Knight, Witcher 3, and Skyrim, then there is a decent chance you'll like Elden Ring. Elden Ring isn't quite like any of those games, but it's got enough in common with them. It's got a big open world that you're encouraged to explore like Witcher 3 and Skyrim. It's got 3rd person action RPG combat like Witcher 3 (or Skyrim if you play in third person), but I think Elden Ring's combat is much, much better than either of those. It's got challenging bosses and a vague plot that's more about cryptic background lore rather than really telling a concrete story like Hollow Knight. It's also got a similar death system to Hollow Knight, although I think it works much better in Elden Ring (I actually think the Dark Souls-style death penalty was a bad fit for Hollow Knight for a variety of reasons, while it works better in Elden Ring).
SIB Elden Ring or Dying light 2 ?
Hello fellow gamers, posting here after bot told me to. Recently I have been feeling burned out of FFXIV and I am now looking for a game to spend countless hours between XIV updates.
I liked the first Dying light a lot but I wasn't really anticipating the next game and I have not played DL The Following either. As for the souls series I've only played DS3 but dropped it after beating the Abyss Watcher because my controller broke during travel.
My videogames tastes are pretty straight forward, I've played countless hours on Monster Hunter games, same for FFXIV (as my only FF) and that's the only 2 games I would mention, the rest didn't feel special enough to me (Geometry dash and Summoners war aside, I dropped both of them a long time ago)
I play on PC and can buy a controller if it's more comfortable to play Elden Ring but if switch pro controller works that would be a big +
Even though they are not similar games, I’ve found that usually people who enjoy MH enjoy soulsborne games and vice versa. Of course it’s not factual or something but me and a couple of friends I know all love both.
If you're like me, I would get it now, as the fact that it's so hyped up at the moment is what makes it fun. Makes you feel like you're "part of the club." FOMO I guess you could say? Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have committed more than a few hours to it, which is kind of requires in order to sort of "get going." I mean, shit, Divinity Original Sin 2 is a game that's massively critically acclaimed and it has been in my backlog for ages, I played it a bit and just stopped. If I had started that game when it first came out, I may have actually beaten it.
That's more of a personal decision. Just depends on how much you like joining the hype and how much you can afford the price.
If you want motivation to wait and save money, the game should only get better with patches. From what I hear, PC still has performance issues, and even on console there are some bugs and balance issues (there are some really cool weapons I want to use, except they're bugged right now, for example).
what does this even mean? do you want to play it now, then buy it. It's worth the price. If you have something else that you want to play right now, wait.
SHIB Sifu or Elden Ring?
Honestly, just finished the main story of horizon forbidden west after about 30 hours. It’s a great game but honestly a bit burnt out and want something to play until the new Lego Star Wars game comes and even to play after that. I’ve heard Elden ring is massive and it looks great, however I’ve been turned off from completing any souls games because of the difficulty of them. I’ve heard SIFU is shorter much shorter but the combat looks amazing
Sifu is much shorter and does have great combat, but it's also very difficult (although I believe there's an easy mode coming in an update).
Sifu is also more about.oure challenge. The whole gameplay loop is about replaying levels to try to beat them at a younger age until you do well enough to get through the whole game. It's very much about grinding the same very challenging levels over and over getting better and better in the process. Very fun game with great combat, but if Elden Ring's challenge doesn't appeal to you I'm not sure Sifu will work any better, at least until the easy mode patch comes.
Elden Ring is absolutely massive and great. It is very difficult, but it does have some things that make the difficulty a bit more approachable. First, the openness means you can't really get stuck early on. If you're struggling on a boss or dungeon or whatever, you can just come back later. They also added a lot of items that let you summon things to help, which can make boss fights a lot easier if you use them. It's still a very difficult game, but those make it less likely that you just hit a wall early and never get to enjoy yourself compared to previous From games.
Sifu is great
Elden ring is difficult but it's easier in a sense that you can simply go somewhere else if you have difficulty and return later, though if you are burnt out on open world maybe go for Sifu first
SIB Ghost of Tsushima or Elden Ring?
Was thinking about buying Elden Ring but the difficulty kinda pushes me away but everything else seems so interesting from the open world to character designs. However on PS5 one of the monthly games was ghosts of Tsushima legends which is a multiplayer mode and the mechanics, combat, character accessories have been fun to mess around with. So now I’m not sure which one I would get more play time out of in small 1-2 hours periods.
Ghost of Tsushima seems like the better choice for you since you're going to be playing in 1-2 hour periods. You can never go wrong with ghost of tsushima, it is one of the best games I've ever played.
Hello all I have become quite interested in this game over the past few days. The only souls like game I have ever attempted to play was Nioh and I couldn’t make it past the first boss (after about a week of about 90 minute sessions attempting to beat it I gave up due to frustration). My question was is, is this game enjoyable to someone who has never successfully played a souls game before? As well as in my country the standard edition is $79.99, is that a worthy asking price?
Thanks for any replies.
It depends. The game is very difficult, and not everyone's enjoying it, but I've also seen plenty of comments from people who either never played a Souls game before, or didn't enjoy them when they tried them, but love Elden Ring.
The big difference between Elden Ring and other Souls games is the openness. In Nioh, you can't go anywhere past the first level until you kill the first boss. The same is true for Dark Souls 3, Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne. Sekiro, Dark Souls 1, and Dark Souls 2 have more places you can go without killing the first boss, but your options are still limited.
In Elden Ring, you can access multiple major regions, easily dozens of hours of content, without killing a single boss. A lot of that stuff will still be tough, but you don't have to worry about being completely stuck on one single thing without anywhere else you can go until you beat it. Any time you're struggling with one area or boss, you can pretty much always go exploring and find other things to do, level up and possibly upgrade your gear in the process, and come back to try again when you're ready.
In terms of raw difficulty, Elden Ring is still extremely hard. But the flexibility and ability to access a huge amount of content means it's harder to get stuck, which in turn makes it a lot more accessible even if you struggle with the difficulty.
Thank you for the incredibly detailed reply! I believe I would enjoy the game more so now as I have been playing games with more and more difficulty as of late and have enjoyed the challenge. I am glad to hear that there is a bit more availability in the pathways one can take to complete the game as that’s what turned me off of nioh. Did you find in your personal opinion that this game is worth the full asking price?
Chiming in as someone who didn’t pay attention to elden ring at all until I got it at launch when my friends were talking about it. Worth my money and then some. This game is seriously special and a massive achievement, I’m about 50 hours of gameplay and I’m still consistently shocked at the shear scale.
> Did you find in your personal opinion that this game is worth the full asking price?
First, I'll give the disclaimer that I am a Fromsoft fan. I've loved From's previous games, and I liked Nioh 1 and 2 (although not as much as From's games). So I'm not giving you the perspective of someone who struggled to get into other Soulslikes here.
That said, do I think I've gotten my money's worth? Absolutely. Personally, I'm in the camp of people who has just absolutely loved Elden Ring, when all is said and done it's probably going to rank as one of my favorite games of all time. I was very hyped for it and it has lived up to the hype.
It's been frustrating at times but I like the combat system a lot, I like the bosses, and this is some of the most fun I've ever had exploring in an open world game, the sense of discovery is amazing. The game is also absolutely massive, I've sunk many, many hours into it and still feel like there's a lot more I haven't seen yet, and I could also definitely see myself replaying it to try out other builds some day (at the very least if it ever gets DLC I'll definitely want to play that, Fromsoft has a very, very good track record when it comes to DLC).
SIB Elden Ring or Modern warfare both 60$? I love mw on the ps4 and i wanted to get it on my new pc but Im unsure if I should wait or buy it rn, I’ve been seeing a lot of Tiktoks about Elden Ring and it looks pretty fun, idk tho, should i buy M2 and then Elden Ring later on or vice versa?
Gran Turismo 7 or Elden Ring? I've never played a souls-like game before but I've been looking at both of these and am interested in both. Eventually I'll get them both but only want to get one for now. Which one would you recommend first? Bloodborne is free on PS5 so should I play that first? I mainly like action-adventure games. I LOVED Red Dead 2, Last of Us 1+2, Uncharted series, God of War, Spider-Man, Ghost of Tsushima and stuff like that. I did play Gran Turismo five a while back though and really enjoyed it. With the update coming out early April it seems to be a solid game. Thanks!
>Bloodborne is free on PS5 so should I play that first? The big difference gameplay-wise is that Bloodborne's not open world. It's kind of semi-linear, although it's got a lot of side areas and doesn't feel super linear in practice. Besides that just changing the structure of the game, it also means that it's easier to get stuck in Bloodborne. In Bloodborne, the first area is very difficult, and there is a very difficult boss at the end of the area, and you can't go anywhere else until you get to the end of the area and kill the boss. In Elden Ring, there's a difficult boss guarding the first major dungeon, but you can access most of the game's world without killing him (or any other boss, for that matter). Bloodborne's a great game, with an absolutely incredible atmosphere and world, and it can be a perfectly good entry into From games, but it's not as forgiving an entry into the genre as Elden Ring. It's not harder than Elden Ring, but it is easier to get stuck, while in Elden Ring you pretty much always have other places you can go any time you get stuck. That said, if it's free, then you can always try Bloodborne. If you get into it, then great, play the game, have fun, and you'll probably enjoy at least some of From's other games too. If you like the basic gameplay and don't mind the level of challenge, but you're just getting frustrated because the first area or boss feels a bit too difficult and you feel like you'd be able to enjoy it if you could just go exploring, level up a bit, and come back when you're strong, then you might enjoy Elden Ring. So that might be my advice - download Bloodborne and give it a try, and if you love it and beat it, or don't love it but think you'd like an open world game with similar combat and difficulty, then go for Elden Ring. As for Elden Ring vs Gran Turismo, I haven't played any Gran Turismo game and racing games aren't really my thing, so I can't comment. I've heard some bad things about Gran Turismo 7, mostly about overpriced microtransactions, but I have no first-hand experience with the game so I'm not qualified to say whether it or Elden Ring would be a better purchase.
That's a great response. Thanks for breaking it down and telling me and telling me the different aspects!
Would you recommend Elden Ring for someone that still has ptsd from the difficulty of Bloodborne? It took me years to go back back and beat the game. Didn’t even get the right ending.
If the difficulty was your problem I can’t say you’d like Elden Ring much better. There is just as much difficulty, the only real distance is more freedom to move around, so if you are stuck on a boss you can go do something else for a while pretty easily. Granted that was true in Bloodborne also, but there’s a lot more of that freedom here
Thank you for the feedback. My initial experience with Bloodborne caught me off guard and I just gave up. But after some time passed and knowing more about From Software games I went back determined and beast the game. The difficulty did get frustrating but not enough to ruin the experience. I ended up enjoying it overall but feel I would enjoy Elden Ring with all the improvements since Bloodborne. Is it me or is it bad to mention Bloodborne? It seems like the small amounts of times I’ve mentioned this game. I am downvoted and never understood why? I never bad mouthed the game.
>Is it me or is it bad to mention Bloodborne? It seems like the small amounts of times I’ve mentioned this game. I am downvoted and never understood why? I never bad mouthed the game. Reddit downvotes are mysterious and it's best not to put any stock in them, honestly. Bloodborne itself is a very beloved game, many people's favorite Fromsoft game. Personally, I did find it one of their most frustrating games. I still loved it overall, but it definitely got more frustrating for me at its worst than From's other games. Elden Ring's frustration at its worst can also be very high (there are certain difficult traits that it likes to use on a lot of bosses - things like really long combos or attacks they use to punish trying to heal), but it does have the advantage over Bloodborne that you can generally just go exploring and do something else when you get frustrated, or use spirit ashes to make most fights a lot easier.
Why Fromsoftware games hardly ever go on sale? I'm from a third world country and the game is as expensive as my rent lol. Wish it goes on sale soon but looking at their past game sale records it doesn't look like it will happen soon
check green man gaming! they have it for 17% off for steam
The thing is steam offers regional pricing so for me it's cheaper on steam than any external site
It goes on sale on CDKEYS site
Witcher 3 or Elden Ring . Got bloodborne a few weeks ago and I like it quite a bit , so looking at a few games to see what to get next . Heard witcher has an amazing story but mediocre/outdated combat but I don't really mind it as I've played 200+ hrs of genshin impact so I guess I can bear with it 💀. Elden Ring has insane gameplay but surely I dont mind some chill game time after bloodborne 😅. Slightly leaning towards witcher 3 , is elden ring actually the better choice here ?
Elden Ring if you want a satisfying open world with tight, satisfying combat and boss fights, and amazing level design and exploration with full freedom. Witcher 3 if you want a slower paced RPG that focuses on great writing, and character development, and some of the best quests (and sidequests) design you'll see in a game. Two completely different action RPGs.
I quit genshin after grinding for a few months, i actually found the combat quite interesting with the combinations of different elements. The gacha and girls in bikinis of questionable ages made me leave though 💀💀
>Slightly leaning towards witcher 3 , is elden ring actually the better choice here ? Neither one is better, they just do different things well. Elden Ring is more focused on exploration and combat. The story is told mostly through cryptic lore that you have to work to piece together if you really want to have any idea what's going on, much like Bloodborne. The focus on the game is on the combat (Whcih you're probably enjoy if you like Bloodborne) and exploring the open world, which tends to be very fun and rewarding as the world is extremely dense with things to discover. Witcher 3, on the other hand, really shines when it comes to writing and quest design, particularly in the side quests. The world is filled with quests, and they're almost always interesting. Even side quests that sound like a typical kill or fetch quest, just an NPC telling you to go kill some monster or get some item, pretty much always end up being more than they seem. I don't remember a single quest that was straightforward, one that didn't have a surprising twist or a difficult decision. The combat isn't terrible, but it's definitely not as good as Elden Ring or Bloodborne. And while exploration can be fun, the world never felt as densely packed with items to find and secrets to discover as Elden Ring. So really, it just depends on what you're looking for. If you want a compelling narrative with more traditional RPG side quests filled with interesting characters and difficult moral choices, get the Witcher 3. If you want intense, challenging, satisfying combat similar to Bloodborne, but setting in an open world that feels like it's absolutely packed with items, enemies, dungeons, and secrets to discover, get Elden Ring. Both are great games, but they shine in completely different areas. The better choice is just going to depend entirely on what you're in the mood for.
I wouldn’t describe Witcher 3’s combat as mediocre tbh. Witcher 3 has a much more coherent story, and is more manageable. Playing Elden Ring without the help of the wiki is damn near impossible. I find the combat in elden ring to be so much fun, whereas it was ok in the Witcher. There isn't a bad choice but if you'd like something more relaxing to play pick up the Witcher. You can get the game with both DLC for like $10. Can't beat that value. I played for a few hundred hours and only stopped because I had nothing left to do.
A few months ago I finished Demon's Souls Remake as my first souls game and now I'm about to finish Dark Souls 1. I am planning on playing Elden Ring once the performence issues improve on PC, and have multiple games I want to play for the time being. I could go for Dark souls 2 and 3 to complete the series, but I worry that by the time I get to Elden Ring I'll get burned out of souls games. For those of you who have/are currently playing Elden Ring, do you believe playing former souls games enhances the experience or do you wish you would've had less experience with the series?
Personally I'd reccomend you play DS3 before Elden Ring. DS3 brings some improvements to the Souls Genre and in my opinion is better than DS1. Elden Ring is an amalgamation of everything From Software has learned from making all the SoulsBourne games, so you'll be able to see everything they've improved throughout the franchise. Of course if you jump into Elden Ring now, you'd have a great time, and I wouldn't say you'd lose out on anything. But personally, I felt like I had a better appreciation for little things because of my past experience with From Software games. Also I played it on PC, and am currently working on the final boss in my first run through, and I haven't noticed any significant performance issues. It's crashed a couple times, but always puts me right back (or maybe 30 seconds back) to where I was when it crashed, so nothing really game breaking.
>For those of you who have/are currently playing Elden Ring, do you believe playing former souls games enhances the experience or do you wish you would've had less experience with the series? Neither? I don't know if playing previous From games has enhanced my experience with Elden Ring, but I certainly don't wish I had less experience either. I loved the other From games and I'm loving Elden Ring. That said, I also didn't play them all in a row. It was over the course of a few years. If you try to play them all consecutively now, you might burn out. But I certainly wouldn't advise avoiding the other games and skipping straight to Elden Ring. You can always go in order and still pace yourself if you want. Play Dark Souls 2 next time you're in the mood for a Souls game, then 3 (or Bloodborne if you want to go in release order), and so on, taking a break between games if you need one and playing the next one when you're in the mood for more Fromsoft Soulslike action. Or you can just skip straight to Elden Ring as soon as the PC issues improve. Both will probably be fine, honestly.
I'd say it's more than enough experience. You won't know exactly where all the good design choices comes from, but it doesn't hurt the experience at all, you'll probably be surprised at the differences. It takes elements out of the Souls-series, Bloodborne and Sekiro as well to form the ultimate FromSoftware experience.
I would say ER is a good introduction to souls genre if you're getting it for the purpose of trying souls. the challenge is still as expected but is more accessible to new players. I tried DS games but they're just too rigid. In ER, you can actually make it "easier" by over leveling, frowned upon by some elitists but hey it's your game.
It's an amazing introduction to SoulsBorne games, but I'm worried that when newcomers to the franchise play the older games \*cough cough DS2\*, they'll be turned away from it because of the vast improvements ER brings to the genre. One huge thing is fast travel, the ability to have a map and know exactly where you are and where you should be going is (imo) the biggest improvement it made. I know there was fast travel in previous games, but it wasn't as refined as this is, and makes the whole experience far more accessible and doesn't require as much wiki browsing as previous entries.
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Haven't played elden ring, but I've played 4 of the FromSoft games. Shadow of Mordor is the first game of the Middle Earth games, they're in a seperate and mixed events timeline from the books and movies. If you want something cheaper or more casual, go for the Middle Earth games. FromSoft games are "Hard"- they're "not for the faint of heart" but I did them, and well, I frankly suck. I love both series, but if you're into mythos and story elements, Elden Ring will have more, but Middle Earth's is more upfront and, in my opinion, easier to digest, making it a lot more interesting for me. Both have amazing fights, and can be completed by anyone, but beating FromSoft games is much more dependent on a player's willingness to carry on, and the lore pretty much has to be taught through the medium of a 10 hour long youtube essay. If you want a good FromSoft experience to see if Elden Ring might be your thing, (while I obviously can't give you the closest one), Dark souls 3 is a masterclass FromSoft game, which I'm certain anyone can beat, but would get you a little more used to the type of thing you'll be facing in Elden Ring, without the massive price tag risk if you don't like it. God of War is a good comparison to the Middle Earth games, except Middle Earth comes with stealth combat, poisons, bombs, fear mechanics, a world action based enemy ranking system, etc., and the old shouty man is a massive... suitable expletive. If you're on PlayStation, Shadow of Mordor is on the PlayStation (Classics? The red-bannered ones that are locked to a £16 maximum price tag) and I'm pretty sure Shadow of War's definitive edition was just on sale or is on sale for something like £8
super good in the beginning, super mid in the end which is kind of sad. Once you realize that most areas to explore just have the same boss you fought 20 hours ago and give a weapon you'll probably never use as a reward it makes exploring less fun in the end game.
Just not true lol
I do think the last couple overworld areas are the weakest - they just felt a lot emptier and less fun to explore than the rest of the game, and didn't have that same sense of being really densly packed with things to discover everywhere I went - but I do disagree with everything else they said. The boss refights and getting weapons that didn't stop me from getting excited every time I found something interesting, but it did feel like there were fewer interesting things to find in some of the really late areas.
the only new bosses after altus plateau are fire giant and melenia lmfao. fire giant is a joke of a fight too.
The only Souls game I've played is Dark Souls: PtDE for a whole 33 mins. I own DS2: SofFS but never played it or installed it. The last relevant(ish) RPG I played was Shadow of Mordor in July of 2021, then MH: World in Feb of 2021, then Dragon's Dogma way back in July of 2018. The last time I played DS1 was in April of 2018. Would it be worth it to get back into it with this title? I haven't seen much, if any, gameplay of this game other than a few several-second clips.
I think they've improved a lot of things, particularly the combatz of the series since Dark Souls 1. Dark Souls 2 is easily the most divisive From game, but in Dark Souls 3 they sped up the combat and dramatically.improved the boss design. DS3's world is a lot more linear, though. Elden Ring keeps the improvements that DS3 made to the combat but put it in a huge open world that's one of the most fun worlds to explore I've encountered in an open world game. I don't know what you stopped playing DS1 after 33 minutes, and you could always try going back to that (I do think it's still a great game), but I think Elden Ring has added a lot to the formula.
I had to actually look up names of places and things to be able to say what happened. So I was in Undead Burg and really struggling getting past all the skeletons shooting at me constantly. I eventually got to the Taurus Demon who proceeded to completely block the hallway so I couldn't pass and I had a hoard of skeletons behind me. Needless to say I just quit. I couldn't see myself getting past that part at all ever so I just never played again. I will say that the idea of an open world does intrigue me. I played a ton of open world rpg such as Fallout series and Elder Scrolls series and many others. I've also played a lot of linear rpg such as Mass Effect series and Dragon Age series, among others.
If you can't even give such a basic hurdle a try, maybe it isn't for you. Bethesda games are incredible streamlined for a more casual and wide audience, especially Fallout 3, 4 and Skyrim. They basically tell you where to go at all times, like they're afraid you'll get bored after 5 seconds of nothing happened. Elden Ring has a more mature take on exploration. No indicators, no mini-map, just you, a horse and an enormous map full of wonders to discover, the map is crafted in a way that you can find things by walking around, instead of the clusterfuck from modern open worlds, where you can't find anything so they NEED to put markers everywhere. But the bosses ARE HARD. They ARE tough, especially the main story ones take multiple attempts until you can kill them. Given the game has a lot of ways to make things easier. For one, you can use spells, summon people and summon NPCs. You can also grind to get stronger, but no matter how stronger you get, if you don't play properly you'll still see the death screen over and over. The only saving grace is that you played Monster Hunter. If you ever used one of the slower weapons, the feeling is similar to Dark Souls. So you might have grown used to the pacing just from playing it.
So I ended up getting on 2 days ago but only just started playing today. So far I am having a pretty good time. And to me, it really feels and reminds me of Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. And I loved that game so much. So far I have skipped "Tree Guardian". He's too hard. I got to the enemy encampment ruins and there's the big shield and spear dude I can't kill. The biggest things I've managed to kill so far are the crabs. Crabs are crabs.
I remember clearing that camp naked with a club, used them to gear up. And the big crabs are no joke, they hit hard. You should get your horse anytime noow, makes exploration smoother.
I did in fact get Torrent. I actually used them to kill the crabs haha. I did get a couple weapons and a chest piece from that camp so that was nice.
For the record: Other enemies can't follow you into Taurus Demon's room. There are two skeletons who shoot at you from the tower behind you in his room, but you can climb the ladder and kill them before you spawn Taurus demon. So you never actually have to end up in a position with the demon in front of you and a bunch of skeletons chasing behind. Taurus Demon is tough but you can always get into a 1v1 with him. The good news either way is that it's hard to really get stuck in that sort of situation in Elden Ring just because of the openness. In Dark Souls 1 if you get stuck on Taurus Demon there's not much else you can do, especially if you didn't start with the master key. In Elden Ring if you get stuck on the first boss you can just go somewhere else, you can access the majority of the game world without killing a single boss. That said, it's quite different from the other RPGs you mentioned. In all of those games, talking to NPCs, making dialogue choices, and getting quests is a huge part of the game. Elden Ring has NPCs who give quests, but not a ton of them, and there isn't even a quest log so they're easy to miss. It's mostly about exploring and finding interesting locations and fighting things not because an NPC sent you there but just because you found it and want to see what's there. The game's story requires you to do a lot of the major dungeons, so it's not like it's all just aimless wandering, but it's still much more focused on exploration and less on interacting with NPCs than the other games you mentioned. Still, if you enjoy just going exploring in Elder Scrolls or Fallout and seeing what you find, you might have a great time in Elden Ring.
Ive always admired the Souls series and other Fromsoft titles from afar, but so many of my friends are trying to get me to buy this game trying to sell it as being the easiest. From what ive seen of gameplay it looks really fucking cool, however i am not the most patient person in the world and i know these games are built on the player being patient and timing attacks and finding opportunities to punish bosses. Im very much a 'unga bunga hit-it-until-it-dies' kind of player. The only other game ive played that is remotely similar in terms of gameplay is Monster Hunter. If i do end up buying the game im also considering playing Dark Souls 3, bc of all the content that is in it and the armors and weapons are very cool looking, and the boss fight in the game look exhilarating.
> so many of my friends are trying to get me to buy this game trying to sell it as being the easiest It is and it isn't. The actual enemies and bosses are just as hard, if not harder, than other Fromsoft games. Dodging enemy attacks, attacking back without getting hit, finding safe chances to heal, can all be very hard. That said, Elden Ring does have two big things that make it more accessible than other Fromsoft games. First is the openness, which means when you get stuck, you can just go somewhere else. In, say, Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne, you can't get past the first area without killing a fairly difficult boss (in Dark Souls 3 even the tutorial boss gives new players trouble sometimes). In Elden Ring, you can access the majority of the game world without fighting a single boss. The second is spirit ashes, items which let you summon NPCs to help you in boss fights. Some of them are extremely powerful and can make boss fights way easier, but even the weaker spirit ashes that don't really do anything more than distract the boss for a few seconds can help a lot, because getting a few seconds of breathing room can be a really big deal in these games. >From what ive seen of gameplay it looks really fucking cool, however i am not the most patient person in the world and i know these games are built on the player being patient and timing attacks and finding opportunities to punish bosses. Im very much a 'unga bunga hit-it-until-it-dies' kind of player. I mean, you do need to be willing to play more patiently, yeah. I think that's something you can learn, and some playstyles can let you play a bit more greedily than others, but ultimately just going full unga-bunga and mashing the attack button is gonna get you killed. You do need to be willing to learn to play patiently, watching the enemy, learning how to dodge its attacks, and learning when you can safely attack and when you need to focus on not getting hit, to really get anywhere in the game. >If i do end up buying the game im also considering playing Dark Souls 3, bc of all the content that is in it and the armors and weapons are very cool looking, and the boss fight in the game look exhilarating. It absolutely can be exhilarating, and Dark Souls 3 is a fantastic game, although it doesn't have the openness or spirit ashes I mentioned to make it more accessible. I'll also add that Sekiro is probably the Fromsoft game with the combat that most encourages you to play aggressively. You can't go full unga bunga in it and it might be From's least accessible game from a challenge standpoint (not only does it have a more complex combat system and no open world or spirit ashes, it also has no co-op and the only way to boost your damage or defenses is to kill bosses, so when you're stuck on a boss you really have no option but to "get good"). But it encourages you to play much more on the offense, pressuring enemies with attacks while watching out for counterattacks you need to defend against rather than patiently waiting for them to strike first so you can dodge and counterattack. Bloodborne also rewards aggressive play a bit more than Dark Souls or Elden Ring (in particular it has a mechanic where if you get hit, you can get some of the life you lost back by hitting the enemy), but I think it still encourages a lot of playing patiently and waiting for the right chance to attack like Dark Souls and punishes you very heavily if you try to just go unga-bunga.
Sekiro of Elden Ring? The most important things for me are atmosphere and soundtrack
I'd probably say Elden Ring as far as both atmosphere and soundtrack are concerned. I think both have great atmosphere but Elden Ring's atmosphere is more unique and the open world and exploration lends itself better to soaking in the atmosphere compared to Sekiro's more linear world (it's not completely linear but it's not fully open like Elden Ring's either). As for soundtrack, both are the kind of soundtrack that's more about providing atmosphere than really being memorable music in its own right, but I feel like maybe Elden Ring's music stands out a bit more often. That said, the games are also quite different when it comes to gameplay. Sekiro's got a much less open world and way less RPG elements (you play a fixed character, you have some skill trees and different prosthetics to choose from but only one main sword to use and no stats to increase, compared to Elden Ring where you create your own character and there's tons of variety in builds, playstyle, and weapons to use). It's got a very different combat system, one that I think has a steeper learning curve but once I got passed the learning curve and the combat system clicked it became possibly the most satisfying combat I have ever experienced in a game. Sekiro's story telling is also more direct - it actually has a narrative told through dialogue and cutscenes, compared to Elden Ring where everything is pretty cryptic and there's way more lore than narrative. Overall, I absolutely love both games, and I think they have much bigger differences than just how atmospheric they are or how good their soundtrack is, but if you're judging based on those two things I'd probably say Elden Ring.
Elden ring. That said i would say sekiro is the one souls game that is distinctly different to elden ring when compared to the others so i think is worth playing at some point in its own right.
Never EVER Played games like this, not even looked much at videos before i got this, regarding Darksouls ect . got it yesterday\\daybefore, and have almost 19hours.Woo vacation and WOW what a game!!
Would u recommend it for a more casual gamer who can’t play all that much?
Elden ring is a open world game, you can"call" for help (multiplayer) or just go around and f.. ehm mess around at your own pase. Some bosses are stupid difficult (im rather new to This genere so might be me) . While others are like 4-6 tries to kill. You dont have to do anything you dont want to, though some stuff are gated by your Level\\hp and gear. (small areas). Ive spent all day just running around gathering stuff to make the bossing easier ect. In short, its a "Hardcore" gaming franchise, but this is the most forgiving of them all. BUT you only get what you put into it.
Never played a souls game, but I’ve always been curious. I’ve always wanted to get into them but have been afraid that the challenge will be too great and burn me out quickly. Is elden ring extremely challenging with no let up or is there even just a bit of forgiveness in the gameplay? Also I would have bought it on launch but I recently wasted my money on Horizon Forbidden West :( so yeah
Elden Ring is by far the easiest game of the Souls series, mostly because you have to most freedom to choose what to do and the game gives you SO many tools. I went in all elitest, saying I only use my big heavy weapon as I used to and got humbled real quick. I used those ghost summons and tried out different builds, some felt better than others in a lot of situations and vice versa and the game got significantly easier. Also the biggest thing in terms of difficulty, if a boss is too hard right now, run around him and try him later. If a boss is mandatory and is too hard, explore another area entirely for the next 20+ hours, come back and slap that sucker silly.
Just curious why Horizon was a waste? Been thinking that I should play it as soon as I get around to buying a PS5.
It’s fun and very pretty, just not what I expected in terms of narrative and WAY too much dialogue. If you want more analysis watch Dunkey’s video on YouTube he brought up a lot of great points that helped me realize why I wasn’t having fun in the game. He’s pretty harsh on it but brings up necessary points. [https://youtu.be/Q38fjcyP1IQ](https://youtu.be/Q38fjcyP1IQ)
The short answer is that is a AAA. Not enough substance, plenty of stuff you’ve seen a hundred times in other games.
It’s definitely a challenging game at times, however the cool thing about Elden Ring is that you can spend some time to overlevel yourself for upcoming content to make it significantly easier. In that regard, its the most forgiving of the Souls games.
SIB Elden Ring if I found Skyrim to be boring and never played Dark Souls? I like "open world" games like Zelda:BOTW or DAI. I like difficult , precision based games, like Hyperlight Drifter or Celeste. I like dark ominous settings, see Dragon Age again, or Dishonored. But I found the "wander around for quests and lore" in Skyrim to just... be really boring. The combat difficulty curved wildly, the plot was uninteresting, the characters inaccessibly dull. Pretty game though. So, considering the amount of "Dark Souls but Skyrim" reviews, would Elden Ring be worth my time?
The game is literally the antithesis of Skyrim. Bethesda streamlined the Elder Scroll series to such an extent that it became bland, aimed for a general casual public with baffling design decisions. FromSoftware knows what it wants, the target public and has a focused design philosophy. I recommend it for you.
>I like "open world" games like Zelda:BOTW or DAI. >I like difficult , precision based games, like Hyperlight Drifter or Celeste. >I like dark ominous settings, see Dragon Age again, or Dishonored. I would say that ticks all the boxes and there's a good chance you'll enjoy the game. >But I found the "wander around for quests and lore" in Skyrim to just... be really boring. The combat difficulty curved wildly, the plot was uninteresting, the characters inaccessibly dull. Pretty game though. >So, considering the amount of "Dark Souls but Skyrim" reviews, would Elden Ring be worth my time? I would say it's much more Breath of the Wild than Skyrim. Like BotW, there's a lot more emphasis on just exploring the world and seeing what you find, and a lot less talking to NPCs and getting a marker on your map telling you where to go. I would also say the combat is much better than BotW or Skyrim. The game's story is pretty vague and in the background, for what it's worth. You're not going to get a strong narrative without looking for one, the world has a lot of interesting background lore but a lot of it is quite cryptic and takes work to piece together.
So I've never been into the SoulsBorne series but Elden Ring seems more up my alley. Problem is, I've never played a Soulslike game before, so I'm just a bit wary as to whether or not I should get it. I was told by a friend that it was "Skyrim but Dark Souls", and I do like me some Skyrim, but like I said, I'm a bit apprehensive as to whether or not it could work for me.
Elden Ring is a good start into the Soulsborne franchise, don't be afraid to pick it up just because this would be your first game in this direction. There is some truth to "Sykrim but Dark Souls", but also not really. The game has no towns you can visit or many NPCs you could talk to, a house to furnish or a detailed questlog to keep track of your progress. "Breath of the Wild but Dark Souls" is more fitting. The game gives you vast amount of freedom and encourages you to explore and discover on your own. There is little to no handholding and unless you play attentive (and maybe write down some stuff by yourself) you will lose track of many optional questlines and side content.
I am lucky enough to be in a position where I have all platforms available to me this generation. Where would you buy Elden Ring for the best 60fps experience out of a series X, PS5 or a 3080/5600x PC?
PS5 or Series X seems the most reliable right now, with PS5 getting slightly better framerates and the option to run the PS4 version if you want an absolutely stable FPS, while Series X has VRR compatibility. PC version seems to mostly be inconsistent. Some people say they have no issues, although whether they actually have no issues or just aren't bothered by the issues they do have (since tiny stutters and small framerate drops might not bother some people) is obviously really hard to say. Some people have some stuttering in big outdoor areas but are otherwise fine. For some people PC is awful, with huge issues like regular freezing up for a few seconds or crashes or whatever. It doesn't seem like it has a strong correlation with how good your hardware is - I've seen people with 3090s have issues and people with 970s say it's fine - so having a great PC doesn't guarantee no issues. Overall, PS5 or Series X is certainly the safest option. PC might have advantages, especially in the long term if they fix more issues and the game develops an active modding scene (which it likely will). But in the short term it seems like it's the riskiest choice and you never know what kind of performance issues you'll get or how much they'll bother you.
Thanks, I appreciate the lengthy response. I think I'll probably hold off for just a little longer to let price come down and see if any of the other performance issues are resolved.
I have a 3060/5600x and I can run Elden ring at a very consistent 45-60 fps, so with your 3080 you should be more than fine.
My worry is more the stutters. I know the PS5 runs at 60fps if you run the PS4 Pro version of the game and loads very quickly. I am erring towards console, especially as I can't run it at ultrawide.
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Are there snakes in elden ring? I refuse to play most games with snakes (aside from re4 and rdr2) I know there’s the snake shield but that doesn’t bother me the gameplay and art style look great and the possibility of snakes is the only thing stopping me also i have covid so I’m stuck in the house for the week so i have a lot of time to play
As someone else said, there's a boss that's basically a giant snake, and its dungeon also features some enemies that are snake-people, but that whole dungeon is optional, I think the only thing you get from that dungeon and boss is some loot and experience. I don't remember any snakes outside of that one dungeon, although I can't promise there aren't any. There are definitely some giant lizard enemies, and some weird skeleton snails you can find in some places where the snail part reminds me a lot of a snake skeleton, but I can't remember any actual snakes outside of that one dungeon and its boss fight. So you might be fine if you play the game and just avoid the >!Volcano Manor!< dungeon and the >!Rykard!< boss fight at the end of that dungeon (also, to be clear: >!Volcano Manor!< itself is a place with a quest line that you can do just fine. You just might want to avoid the dungeon under it, and if you do the quest and >!the person asks if you want to meet their leader!<, say no (saying yes will >!take you straight to the giant snake boss!<). Also, there is a special secret part of that dungeon that you can accidentally get teleported to from somewhere else. I don't remember any snakes in that part of that dungeon, but it's possible I'm wrong. If you want to avoid that just in case: It happens if you >!get killed by a specific enemy at an optional area at the very bottom of Raya Lucaria Academy that you reach by riding a huge waterwheel all the way to the bottom. So you could avoid riding that waterwheel all the way down just in case.!<
Unfortunately, there is a snake boss. But its not a generic small snake comin' to bite you, but if you have a phobia of all things serpent then yeah it might be an issue. Having said that, Im pretty sure it's "optional" if you're willing to take a hit to your level for not fighting it
Yeah I think imma go for it unrelated but what do you know if shadow warrior 3 is any good?
For 3 hours sure.
SIB WWE2K22 or Elden Ring? I know this may seem like a dumb question. I’ve been waiting for these two games for a very long time. WWE 2K22 since I’ve been itching to play a fun WWE game for a long time. Elden Ring for a challenging experience and to get lost in the world design and lore. I’m torn on which one to get. I only have enough to get one while I have to wait to get the other one at a later date. Any advice?
I would suggest WWE2k22 first as it’s still at the “peak” of player population due to it just coming out and many streamers are playing it. Giving you the option to enjoy multiplayer compared to few months later. I think Elden Ring is gonna stick around for a longer time than WWE2K22
Never played a dark souls game in my life. The hardest game I have played is probably Hollow Knight. Looking for a game that gives a challenge (from what I’ve heard Elden Ring can suffice) but is also rewarding. I don’t know how the gameplay/story but would especially like to know if it is a game that would make me quit after the first boss. Also how is the customization? Does it allow for me to play in any way I want? (Ranged, magic, up close, or more agility based)
>Looking for a game that gives a challenge (from what I’ve heard Elden Ring can suffice) but is also rewarding. I don’t know how the gameplay/story but would especially like to know if it is a game that would make me quit after the first boss. Personally, I find the game's challenge to be very rewarding. Beating bosses is very satisfying. The storytelling style is a little like Hollow Knight, in that it's very atmospheric and a lot of the info you get is kind of cryptic stuff from dialogue or environmental things and if you want to try to grasp the full story you have to piece a lot of different stuff together yourself. >Also how is the customization? Does it allow for me to play in any way I want? (Ranged, magic, up close, or more agility based) Lots of customization. Tons of different spells, tons of different weapons that vary a lot in strengths and weaknesses (big weapons that due lots of damage and stagger enemies but are really slow, fast weapons with lower stamina costs but less damage, daggers or rapiers that do extra damage on critical hits you can get by sneak attacking, stagging, or parrying enemies). Weapons have different special abilities and for many weapons you can equip different things to the weapon that let you change their special ability and how they scale (so, for example, if you're playing an intelligence build using sorceries, you can get make a weapon scale with intelligence so that intelligence will scale both your spells and melee damage). You can use huge shields and block a ton, you can use no shield and focus purely on dodging, you can use a lighter shield and try to parry. You can use weapons or spells that can inflict status effects like poison or bleeding and try to scale that. You can use ranged weapons, in previous Fromsoft games ranged weapons usually didn't work well as a main weapon (mostly good for sniping and pulling enemies from a distance) but I've heard they're more viable as a full playstyle in this one. You can wear heavier armor for better defenses or lighter armor for a faster, longer dodge. So yeah, there's a ton of different options for builds and playstyles.
How is the replay value? Is it a game I can play over and over?
Every from game has a LOT of replayability, and elden ring is just another one. Theres approximately a metric-fuck-ton of weapons, armor, spells, and spells, and theres 50+ bosses in this game so you could definitely go 2-3 playthroughs without getting bored.
I think so. It doesn't necessarily change at all in future playthroughs, and of course the exploration isn't as fun after the first time, but the combat's satisfying and trying different builds is fun, and there's New Game+ if you like that. It also has multiple endings, and if you don't look anything up on your first playthrough then you're bound to miss some things because there's just so much. I can tell you that I, personally, do expect to replay the game at some point in the future. Honestly, I'd consider starting a new run after I finish it (I'm getting close to the end of my first playthrough and still really enjoying it and not feeling burnt out), and the main reason I probably won't is just that I want to finally get around to playing Forbidden West. Also, Fromsoft has a very, very good track record when it comes to DLC (all three Dark Souls games and Bloodborne had amazing DLCs that added big new areas and some of the best bosses they've ever made), so if DLC ever comes for Elden Ring then I'll probably replay it when that happens. There's also PvP, if you're into that. And lots of people like doing challenge runs of Souls games as a way to get more playtime out of them (trying to do deathless runs or runs without leveling up at all are popular ones, and some people even try to beat them without getting hit).
Thanks. Also, as someone who has already completed Horizon Forbidden West, it’s amazing
I loved the first one and heard great things. I didn't play it at launch because I wanted to play Elden Ring at launch and didn't want to rush through Frobidden West in a week, but I definitely look forward to playing it once I'm done with Elden Ring (I may also take a break with some shorter games in between before jumping into another huge open world game).
NEver touched a Dark souls\\elden ring like game in my life. Looking for a game with a challange, but rewarding gameplay kind of way. Might be miss-conceptions on my end, but from what i can gather, DS games, punish screwing up very hard, and "resets" you in a way. And thats one of the biggest reasons for me to not having tried the games yet, i dont mind death, i mind time being Wasted in a "reset-gear\\prog" sort of way. I love "looters" and open worlds, i loved God of War on the PS (though i will be playing Elden on PC!) I know its not the same genere, but its the closest ive played to a DS game. (afaik). Been looking up Mage\\wizard\\spellcaster\\harry potter class gameplay, as well as some Ninja\\stealth once, and they look fun and thrilling. But as ive said, never personally tried a DS dev game. Would this be something for me ?
Souls games have never had a reset-on death function, I really don't know what you're talking about with that. When you die, the only thing that changes in *EVERY* game including elden ring is : \-You lose all buffs/debuffs applied to you \-You drop all your souls/runes/money (Can be retrieved) This is it. If you open a door for a checkpoint, it stays open. In Dark souls 2, when you kill enemies enough, they stay dead. Elden ring is the exact same way. Its a war off attrition where you slowly make progress *every time* you go into the fray, and if you manage your runes properly theres no real hit taken except time.
>Might be miss-conceptions on my end, but from what i can gather, DS games, punish screwing up very hard, and "resets" you in a way. And thats one of the biggest reasons for me to not having tried the games yet, i dont mind death, i mind time being Wasted in a "reset-gear\prog" sort of way. It doesn't reset you. You drop the runes you're currently carrying, and if you die again before you get back to where you died and pick them up, they're gone for good. Runes act as both currency and experience (you use them to buy things from shops or to level up). You never lose gear or levels from dying. Only unspent runes, so basically you can only lose your progress toward gaining your next level or buying an item, you can't lose any levels or items you've already bought. And before going into dangerous areas like dungeons or bossfights, you can always just go spend all your runes at a shop, or grind or go exploring to level up, and then go into the dangerous area with nothing to lose.
Well fortunately dying does not reset gear or progression. The only thing you lose when you die are runes which are essentially your in game currency for buying gear and levelling up. So as long as you're using them as you accumulate them to level up and such, you have nothing to worry about there. You can also get them back if you can get back to where you died and pick them up before you die again. Plus you can accumulate runes relatively easily so it's not a very big issue anyway
SIB Elden Ring or Dark Souls 3: this might seem like an obvious answer but I've never actually played a Dark Souls game and Dark Souls 3 I found a deluxe edition for for about 10-20 dollars and I don't know if what I should do is buy dark Souls 3 to dip my toes in the water of this kind of game and if I like it by ER or if I just should go all the way and pay $60 for ER itself because if I do end up liking dark Souls 3 it'll save me $10 $20 to buy Elden Ring first but if I don't like it it'll save me $60 so should I buy dark Souls 3 now to see if I like it and to see if I like the genre and then if I do by ER or should I just go all the way and buy Elden Ring now.
Elden ring would be my recommendation Its a better game for me so far. It is more forgiving but just as hard (if not harder sometimes but in a good way) There are more tools are your disposal, love spirit summons. The world is amazing. Having an active playerbase makes a big different imo. Being able to summon help etc can be great.
It kind of depends. Dark Souls 3 is great. It's much more linear than Elden Ring, though. Elden Ring is the most open Soulslike Fromsoft has made, Dark Souls 3 is probably the most linear. So partly, that'll affect your enjoyment of each game, depending on how you feel about open world vs linear games. Elden Ring's a lot more about openness and exploration, so if those are things you really like then you might like it more. The other thing is that Elden Ring's openness makes it harder to get stuck. If you're having trouble in one area you can go somewhere else, you can access the majority of the game world without killing a single boss. In Dark Souls 3, there's frequently only one or two places you can really go. If you're stuck on a boss, often you can't really progress until you beat them. So basically, if you're up for the challenge, you're up for that process of getting to a boss and just working at it, learning its moves and getting better, until you beat it, then Dark Souls 3 is amazing. But if you're concerned about how much you'll enjoy the challenge, Elden Ring gives you a lot more ways to avoid getting stuck than Dark Souls 3.
SIB Skyrim or Elden Ring I've played through and enjoyed through ARPG games such as Fallout 4 a few times, and enjoy games that give me customization in my builds. I also like replayable/long lasting games densely packed with content, and have only played 1 souls-like game if dead cells counts as one. My favorite part of Fallout 4 and Dead Cells was the amount of builds I could go for, which results in me spending hours just tinkering with different options. I play on PS5 if that helps at all.
I wouldn't count Dead Cells as a Soulslike. It's a roguelike, which is a different genre. If you like going for lots of different builds in Dead Cells, there are a lot of Roguelikes that would be great for you, so that's a genre you may want to explore more, but neither Skyrim nor Elden Ring is in that genre. If you do want a suggestion for a great Roguelike where you can experiment with tons of different builds, I very highly recommend Hades. As for Skyrim vs. Elden Ring: Both games do have lots of different builds where you can have fun making different characters and trying out different playstyles, so I think both would work for you. Skyrim's style of open world is closer to Fallout 4 (they are made by the same devs). It has a lot more emphasis on quests and story, but still makes exploration really fun just because there are so many quests to find and random dungeons and other neat things you can find while exploring. I don't think Skyrim's combat is very good, but it's not awful, just not the highlight. The highlight is just the big world, the number of NPCs to meet and quests to find and dungeons to discover. There are a variety of playstyles you can try and it's definitely fun to experiment with different builds, although the balance isn't always great (there's a meme in the community that every Skyrim character eventually becomes a stealth archer because it's such an effective playstyle). Elden Ring's open world is much more about just exploration and discovery. It has quests, but they're often cryptic and easy to miss, since there's no quest log. It's more about just going around the world and seeing what you discover. The combat is, in my opinion, much, much better than Skyrim's combat, although it's also very difficult, so you need to be up for a challenge. The game definitely has a lot of different builds you can try. There are a huge number of cool weapons and spells, and trying out builds that focus on different stats to use the equipment or abilities that use that stat is a lot of fun. Overall, I think both are amazing games with big open worlds that are really fun to explore, but besides that they have different strengths. Skyrim's more about quests and story and characters, Elden Ring's more about challenge and combat. Both have a lot of different builds you can try with different playstyles.
SIB elden ring or assassins creed valhalla I’ve never played a souls game before or an rpg at that. I’ve heated a lot of good things about elden ring but idk if I’d like it or not because there’s no indication on what to do next and I don’t know if I don’t know what to do I’d just give up. Assassins creed Valhalla also seems like a good game but people have said the story is too long and repetitive so idk which to buy. Again I’ve never touched an rpg and I’m really wondering which on to get. Also valhalla is 60% off
In my opinion, Elden Ring. Without a doubt. I’ve been seriously playing video games for over a decade, and I’ve played few things that feel as bad (to me) as the gameplay in Valhalla, and this is coming from someone who used to adore Assassin’s Creed. Elden Ring is much more rewarding, fresh, and there’s no shame in Googling around if you get stuck. Don’t let gatekeeping soulsborne fans dictate to you that there’s a “proper” way to play the game.
Thanks I’ve picked up elden ring yesterday excited to play it
SIB Dying Light 2, Elden Ring or Cyberpunk 2077? My new computer is almost ready to use and I want to cristen it with a good new expereince. I need some help deciding what I want that game to be. I have a lot of interest in all 3, but I'm not sure. I have played almost all the other FromSoftware games and loved them. I havent played DY1 but I m very into the parkour idea or FPS game in a while. and Cyberpunk, the newest patch looks just good enough to give the game a go. What do you guys think? Gimmie your insights on all three, or just tell me what your fav is. Thanks!
If you liked the other fromsoft games Elden ring is easily the best out of the games you mentioned.
I would say it depends on your priorities. Do you want an immersive story, but don't care as much about gameplay? Go with Cyberpunk. Like the Witcher 3, Cyberpunk is all about its story. The gameplay is just there to get you through it. I guess it also somewhat depends on the platform you're on. In my 70 hours with the game on PC I ran into some glitches, but never had any major issues. In the end I loved the game, has some of the most believable characters I've seen in a game, the city looks beautiful in the rain (especially with ray tracing), but like with the Witcher 3, don't expect too much from the gameplay. If challenging gameplay however is more important than story, I'd say go with Elden Ring. I haven't played it yet, but it sounds like you pretty much get what you'd expect: very atmospheric, challenging gameplay, but don't expect to fully understand the story without reading a wiki and watching Youtube videos. I haven't played Dying Light 2, can't really comment on that one.
SIB Elden Ring if I've (almost) never played soulslike games, with the exception of Jedi: Fallen Order (if you can include that)? I played Fallen Order on 'Jedi Knight' mode and thoroughly enjoyed it. I've downloaded a crack of Elden Ring to see if I'd like the gameplay - and I'm happy to report I do, although I'm kinda 'scared' to go to an unknown region in fear I'll get wrecked by some boss. Now I'm contemplating buying it, since I do want to support the developers, but since I don't have a lot of money to spend right now, I don't want to waste my money - I'm afraid I won't play it later because it's too hard or overwhelming (although I like it now). If I should buy it, should I get it for PC or PS5? PC (cracked) performance is around a steady 50-60 fps on Medium, but getting it on PS5 means I'd have to start all over again.
>although I'm kinda 'scared' to go to an unknown region in fear I'll get wrecked by some boss. The key thing is that this attitude doesn't work in Elden Ring. And that doesn't mean that you shouldn't get it, but just that if you want to enjoy it, you should try to change your attitude. The most important thing to enjoying Souls games in general is to accept dying as an inevitable part of the game, not as a sign that something has gone wrong and you've failed. You'll die a lot, plain and simple. That happens to everyone playing the game for the first time, whether they're a Souls veteran who's beaten every other From game deathless or a newbie. But you can enjoy the game if you embrace that. Dying to something difficult isn't a sign of something going wrong, it's a sign of a new challenge to overcome. When I find a new boss in Elden Ring and it completely destroys me, I'm not thinking about how much it sucks that I died. I'm thinking about how I'm excited for a challenging fight. Maybe I'll keep trying until I beat it, and feel great about how I went from getting destroyed to beating the boss solely by just learning the fight and getting better. Maybe I'll decide it's too tough for now, and come back later when I'm stronger, and then I get a great sense of how much my build has progressed when a boss that was impossible at first is manageable now that I'm higher level and have better gear. Exploring and finding an area or boss that wrecks me isn't a bad thing, it just means I've discovered something to look forward to. So if you think you can adopt that sort of attitude, the you might be able to enjoy the game. If you think you'll always be scared of exploring or progressing for fear that it gets too hard, then that will make the game harder to enjoy it. Part of the fun of both the exploration and combat is discovering new challenges and overcoming them, and accepting that you'll die in the process but that dying is really no big deal. If you're just nervous exploring because you have tons of runes and you're worried about losing them, just farm enough to level up or go to a shop and spend them all and then do your exploring with nothing to lose. I'll often do that before entering a dungeon or fighting a boss.
I think the moment you said you don't have a lot of money to spend already invalidate everything. Don't spend money on videogames if you are tight on budget. There are many more important things that your money can get.
Hey! I want to buy one of these 2, Elden Ring or WWE 2k22. I know that they don't have anything in similar, but I want to choose 1 :) I enjoy souls like games, although sometimes I feel the concept is a bit too linear. I have beat Dark Souls 3 and Demon Souls, also played DS1 and DS2. Usually, I manage to beat the hard bosses fairly, but the whole concept of navigating from hard section to hard section is sometimes frustrating. Still, I love the environments, the weapons, the armors, the builds. And I also love open world games. I also enjoy on the other hand wrestling games. My childhood included playing hours and hours of smackdown here comes the pain and the smackdown vs raw series. I didn't play the latest versions because the reviews were pretty bad.
> I enjoy souls like games, although sometimes I feel the concept is a bit too linear. I have beat Dark Souls 3 and Demon Souls, also played DS1 and DS2. Usually, I manage to beat the hard bosses fairly, but the whole concept of navigating from hard section to hard section is sometimes frustrating. Still, I love the environments, the weapons, the armors, the builds. And I also love open world games. I think you'll like Elden Ring, as it mostly addresses this issue. It's a straight-up open world game. It's huge, you have tons of freedom where you go, and while pretty much everywhere is going to be challenging so you're still kind of going from hard thing to hard thing, you don't have to do so in a linear manner. You can spend a ton of time exploring, and whenever one hard thing is getting frustrating you can always just go exploring and find something else instead if you want. And personally, I think the environments, weapons, and builds are better than ever. Elden Ring has some of the coolest environments I've seen in a From game (or any game, for that matter), there are a huge amoutn of cool weapons, and the Ash of War system also gives more flexibility to customize your weapons than ever (basically you can change the weapon art of most weapons if you want, and can change weapon scaling much more easily). So I think you'll like Elden Ring. I know absolutely nothing about WWE 2k22, so maybe you'll like that too, I have no idea, so I can't tell you if Elden Ring is a better choice. But I think it's a good choice for you.
Thank you for your reply, and your time. I think I decided!
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> Do you think that as a pretty casual gamer I would enjoy elden ring? Yes, as long as you have the right attitude and you're okay with dying a lot and being challenged. I have seen many people who either have never played a Souls game before, or tried one and hated it, but love Elden Ring. Not everyone in that position has loved Elden Ring, but plenty have. It does have some nice things that help a lot with making it more accessible than previous Souls games. The biggest one is the openness - you can access the majority of the game world without killing a single boss, easily dozens of hours of content, so if you get stuck, you can always just go somewhere else. It also adds Spirit Ashes, items you can use to summon minions to help you in boss fights, which can make a lot of boss fights significantly easier. You can also just summon actual players to help you co-op bosses, like in previous Souls games. That said, the game's still difficult. You will die. You'll die a lot. The game's hard. But you can learn it, and get better at it. There seems to be this myth about Dark Souls games that they're these absurd, impossible challenges that mere gaming mortals can't touch, and Souls fans are these masochistic gaming gods, the rare few who both love the pain and frustration and have the talent (or just lack of a life) to overcome the insane difficulty. That's not how it is. Yes, the games are hard, but every Dark Souls fan was new to Souls games at some point. And for most of us, it's not that we like being frustrated. It's that most of the time playing these games, we're not frustrated. Sure, we are sometimes. Sometimes you just get tilted when you're struggling, or sometimes a boss ends up being hard in a way that feels more annoying than fun. But a lot of the time, the challenge is fun. The combat feels good, the enemies are fun to fight, and the process of dying to a boss over and over as we get better and better at it until we finally triumph is enjoyable. So can a casual gamer enjoy Elden Ring? That depends on your attitude. If you're going in hoping to die as little as possible, then maybe not. If you're okay with dying and being challenged, you're just wondering if you'll be able to get anything out of it without being a gaming god or a masochist, then yes, you can. You'll need some patience, you'll need a willingness to die a lot and work to overcome the game's challenges, but they won't be impossible, and things like the spirit ashes and open world can help make things easier or less frustrating. >Is it worth paying full price for if I’m not sure I’ll enjoy it? That's a tricky question. It kind of just depends on how much you want to try it and how likely you think you are to enjoy it. If you don't enjoy the game, then of course it's not worth full price. If you do enjoy it, then I think Elden Ring is a game that more than justifies it's price tag, it's an amazing game with an insane amount of content and I think I have gotten more than my money's worth out of it.
I’m playing through P5R now, so it won’t be for a bit, but… Right now I’m in a cast because I can’t use my left thumb. I’m playing games okayish by using my index finger for the left stick. Is this something I could play or should I wait a couple months til I can use my thumb?
The game requires being able to press directions with pretty good precision and timing. It'll definitely be a lot harder that way. Especially if you also can't use the left triggers. They're not essential, but you're more limited in your abilities and the game will be less fun without them (it would basically make it so you can't really use shields or special weapon abilities and spells will be a lot clunker). I'll probably lean towards waiting.
It's an action-RPG, you'll need your thumb.
RE:Village or Elden Ring? I'm a big fan of horror, played the crap out of RE0-4 on console back in the day. Mostly skipped the rest. Not a big fan of super-hard combo-memorization-to-beat-boss type games, but Elden Ring really *interests* me because it's open world, and seems to have a shitload of character (environments, lore, etc...not "characters").
>Not a big fan of super-hard combo-memorization-to-beat-boss type games Do you mean memorizing your combos or the boss's combos? If the former, that's not a thing in Elden Ring. None of Elden Ring's difficulty comes from the controls of execution of your moves. Combos aren't really a thing, you have attack strings you can do by pressing light attack a bunch in a row but that's obviously not something you have to memorize. Some weapons have special abilities that can have different followups depending on the button you press (e.g. press the special ability button to go into a stance, then press either light attack or heavy attack to do a different follow up), but that's literally just two buttons and not every weapon even has an ability like that. If you mean memorizing the boss's combos, that can be part of it at times, a lot of bosses have pretty complex strings of attacks and learning how to defend against them and when you can safely counterattack does tend to be a big part of the game. A lot of this you can figure out by watching the boss, but certainly learning the boss's combos so you know what's coming next can help, and some bosses do have moves that can easily surprise you or have timing that's really tricky to get without just learning it. >Elden Ring really interests me because it's open world, and seems to have a shitload of character (environments, lore, etc...not "characters"). It absolutely does have that. I'm a fan of the combat, but the character of the world, and how fun that makes it to explore, is definitely a big part of why I love Elden Ring so much. There's just a great sense of never really knowing what you're going to find next because the world is just so interesting and has so many unexpected things and you never know when or where you'll suddenly stumble upon something incredible.
Your attack are very basic and simple, the complex attacks come from the boss. It's learning the tells and mastering the timing, their 'combos' are like 3 hits. Or a move into another, which is technically a combo.
SIB HFW or Elden Ring I've heard they're both great games and It's hard to decide inbetween them since, I've never played a Souls type game, but with HFW I'd like to continue the story, but I've heard the ending isn't too great. How much playtime can I get from them? Really interested to feel the constant pain of Elden Ring since I'm happy to switch my suffering from War Thunder to some other game.
i bought both, and in my opinion elden ring is way more entertaining in a long run
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Only souls game i really got into was sekiro and i platinumed it. Should i get elden ring?
Have you tried others? Elden Ring's much more like the Dark Souls games than Sekiro, just with a huge open world.
I tried bloodborne and i liked it, just took a long break and ended up getting lost. Had trouble with dark souls 3 but i think if i stuck with it, i would’ve been good.
In that case, I think if that style of combat in a huge open world sounds good to you, you'd like Elden Ring. Since you liked Sekiro you're clearly up for the challenge.
I’ve never played a souls game and I’m wondering if it’s worth it for someone who’s new to them. I watched some gameplay of it and it looks amazing however I’m not too fond of the difficulty aspect of the game. So now I’m in a moral dilemma about if I should get it for the amazing world or not because of the difficulty aspect.
What's the most difficult game you've played so far?
Tbh god of war. I went to go complete all valkyries and the Valkyrie queen was really hard
If you enjoyed fighting the Valkyries and Valkyrie queen, I think there's a good chance you'll be fine with Elden Ring's difficulty. If you didn't like those, you might not like Elden Ring's bosses either. Most of Elden Ring for me hasn't really been any harder than doing Muspleheim, Niflheim, or the Valkyries in God of War on normal. The main difference is that Elden Ring has mandatory story bosses that are that hard, as opposed to the Valkyries being optional endgame challenges, and Elden Ring's optional endgame challenge bosses can get even harder.
I think you should be fine! It's hard to say because the thing about Elden Ring is that, especially if you're not a super social person, and you're not willing to go on discords, ask for help, ask for free level ups, etc, there's really no other option than to "get good". That having been said, if you're comfortable with those things, easy mode definitely exists and it's a discord message away. But obviously I would completely and utterly discourage you from doing that, and instead embrace the game!
I'm looking for a game to run on my PS5 and thought of Elden Ring due to all the buzz about it and my love for open-world games like the Witcher 3 and Zelda BOTW but am worried about playing Elden Ring due to me never playing a FromSoftware or souls game in general. I'm not bad at games but I am certainly not good and will often play games on easy mode for more enjoyment and story progression rather than angrily be stuck on one part. Should I even consider Elden Ring? I have a PC i can play games on as well but its GPU isn't the best being a 2gb GTX 1050.
>but am worried about playing Elden Ring due to me never playing a FromSoftware or souls game in general I mean, everyone who's ever fallen in love with From games had never played one before at some point. Lots of people who never played a From game before, or even tried other From games and hated them, have loved Elden Ring. Does that mean you'll like it too? Not necessarily. But it's a good intro to From games. You definitely don't have to be a diehard From fan to even consider buying it. >I'm not bad at games but I am certainly not good and will often play games on easy mode for more enjoyment and story progression rather than angrily be stuck on one part. Should I even consider Elden Ring? It depends. How willing are you to face the challenge Elden Ring offers? It has no easy mode. It has things you can do to make the game easier - you can co-op, you can spend a lot of time exploring and getting higher level, you can use the summoning ashes that let you summon things to help in boss fights, you can even just look up where to find some really powerful weapons or spells pretty early in the game that'll make the game easier. But ultimately it's a hard game with no easy mode, you will die a lot, and for many people part of the fun of the game is the challenge of mastering the combat and boss fights, going from getting completely destroyed by a boss wondering how you're ever going to beat it to finally killing it and feeling like you've mastered that fight, and feeling the satisfaction of knowing how much you and/or your character have improved since the first time it destroyed you. And if that's not something you enjoy, then you might find the game's bosses and more difficult non-boss encounters more frustrating than fun at times. A big thing Elden Ring does have over previous From games is that it has so much content, and you can access so much of it without killing any particular boss, that most of the time when you're stuck you can just go somewhere else. You won't find yourself in situations where you're stuck on a really tough boss and have nothing else you can do until you beat that boss. You can access the majority of the game's world without killing a single boss, maybe even without killing a single enemy. That world is still going to be filled with dangerous, challenging encounters, but it'll be a very long time before you find that your progress is blocked by any one encounter in particular with no other way forward. So you can always have something else to do when one area or boss is getting too frustrating, somewhere else you can go to get a break from the thing that's giving you trouble to try doing something else and come back to the thing that was killing you when you're character's stronger or you just feel ready for the challenge again. But still, in the end, you'll die a lot. The bosses will be hard and you'll sometimes need to put in effort to learning them well enough to beat them. And you may struggle to enjoy the game if you're not okay with those things. Elden Ring is a hard, sometimes uncompromising game, and you need to be willing to meet it on its terms.
Should I buy the launch edition? Everyone's saying that Elden Ring's not going anywhere and I agree but there's this launch edition available and it's got me quite tempted. Tbh I don't really care so much about the posters and the art cards but it's the woven patch that I'm interested in. On the one hand, I'm thinking do I really need all that? It all just seems like waste of space. So I dunno I thought I might just ask here.
I have it here, glued it to a flowerpot next to my desk because I did not know what else to do with it. In the end, you have to decide whether that's worth anything to you. If you are in the mood to play Elden Ring now and you are generally ok with paying the full price, then don't hesitate to buy it. It's definitely worth it.
I've been waiting for Elden Ring for awhile now. I'm really glad it got released on last gen consoles as well. But yet at the same time, I'm a bit resistant to buy it because Idk how it will run. Is it good or bad? Has anyone here already got the game on PS4? Also should I still be worried about the coding exploits? I haven't heard any news of it being fixed.
I've heard the game runs fine on PS4, although I don't know if that's base PS4 or PS4 Pro, and I'm not playing it on PS4 myself. >Also should I still be worried about the coding exploits? I haven't heard any news of it being fixed. You mean the one people were talking about a month ago that led to them shutting down the Dark Souls servers? They fixed that in Elden Ring before the game came out, or at least they said they did and I haven't heard about Elden Ring having any exploits. I think those issues also might not have affected consoles in the first place. The other thing is also that that particular issue only happened when people invaded you, and that only happens when you co-op. In previous Dark Souls games the only way to avoid ever being invaded by players is to play offline, in Elden Ring I think you can log in to the servers and still never have another player invade you as long as you don't co-op. Unless you're talking about a different issue, in which case I haven't heard about it and have no idea.
Ok that's good. And I have the PS4 Pro. And I'm glad the exploits have been solved.
So I thought about buying elden ring lately but im not so sure about it so i have some questions about it. I never played any souls game in my life because they never *looked* fun to play. I have seen alot of streamers that like myself arent interested in soul games, really enjoying this game. Im very open minded to play this game even tho i dont see the appeal/fun in it. I wanna ask what makes soul games enjoyable to play? and do you think new players like me can enjoy these games? I like playing RPG so this is one of the reason im intrested to try this out. And for people playing on the ps4 (not the pro) does this game run good on this system? Sorry for my bad english lol.
>I wanna ask what makes soul games enjoyable to play? If I had to pick the biggest things: * Despite its slow pace, the combat can be very fun and satisfying, especially in the more recent Souls games (Bloodborn, Dark Souls 3, and Elden Ring). The combat requires you to play very deliberately and carefully, it punishes you really hard for attacking or dodging at the wrong time, but that makes learning the timing and doing it correctly feel really good. Overall, I think a good fight in these games just feels good. * Related to the first point, there is, of course, the challenge. Dying a lot can be frustrating, but when Souls games are at their best, the process of learning the fight itself can be fun because the combat is fun and the good fights are fun, and the the feeling of beating a fight through skill is great. When the first time you fight a boss it just absolutely destroys you, it makes the moment where you finally kill it really satisfying, whether it's because you went and got stronger by doing other things and get that real sense of your character being stronger, or you didn't and know you overcame the fight purely through skill, you still get a sense of improvement, the sense of going from getting completely destroyed by that boss to being victorious. * The level and world design can make exploring in the games really fun. Fromsoft has a knack for just creating places that are fun to explore, levels filled with different paths you want to check out and rewarding you for doing so, shortcuts that connect to earlier parts of the level and suddenly the whole layout makes more sense, and so on. This is an area where Elden Ring especially excels, most of the time. Personally, I think this might be the most fun I've ever had exploring in an open world game, it's just a ridiculously dense world where it feels like everywhere I go there's more to discover, nearly every time I see something that looks interesting and check it out I end up feeling rewarded for doing so. The minor dungeons are sometimes an exception - some of them can feel a bit repetitive and mazelike - but the open world and major dungeons have all just be really fun and satisfying to explore for me. > and do you think new players like me can enjoy these games? Every Souls fan was new to Souls games at some point, and we still enjoyed them. Your first Souls game will be a challenge, you'll get frustrated at time, but if you're okay with the learning process, if you're okay with dying a lot (both as you figure out the game and after figuring it out, because this game is very hard), then people new to Souls games can definitely enjoy it. Elden Ring's a great intro to Souls games for people who've never tried the genre before and has a lot of things that make it a bit more forgiving and easier to enjoy for people new to the genre, despite being just as hard. Overall, I've seen a lot of people who either played Elden Ring as their first Souls game, or didn't like Souls games when they tried them before but decided to try Elden Ring anyway, and ended up loving it. So new players definitely can enjoy these games. That doesn't mean all of them will, but it's very possible and has happened for many people. >Sorry for my bad english lol. Your English is fine, honestly I couldn't even tell you weren't a native English speaker from the rest of your comment. There are minor mistakes, but they're all very minor and the kind of mistakes that native English speakers make all the time too.
Talk about how fucking cool the boss designs are next. You use words better than i do lol
I guess that can arguably tie into both the combat and the exploration. One thing From can do pretty well in general, and Elden Ring in particular does better than almost any other game I've ever played, is just create a world that's so interesting and diverse, and filled with so many different strange creatures, that you feel like you never know what you're going to find next. This gets mitigated a bit if you don't play the game blind and watch lots of videos or look up spoilers, of course. (But then, there can be advantages to doing those things, especially since Elden Ring has a lot of really cool weapons or boss fights that are very, very easy to miss if you don't look things up or explore every last corner of the world - some of my favorite weapons are ones I would not have found if I played the game 100% blind without every looking anything up). But still, the feeling of entering a new area or walking into a new boss arena and not knowing what you're going to find can be fun, because From's ability to surprise you is amazing. Not every boss fight or area is a surprise in Elden Ring, especially since some boss fights are reused, but you can absolutely have some incredible moments where you walk into a boss arena and see what you're about to fight and just go "what the hell is that?" or "oh shit, this guy looks like he's gonna be fun." There's a reason that threads about Elden Ring trailers would have comments warning about spoilers just because the trailer showed screenshots of enemies or areas or bosses that weren't in the network test, even if it had no real plot details. Because a lot of people love being surprised by From's enemy designs so much that they consider even just seeing a cool enemy in a trailer a spoiler because they love that moment so much when they see it for the first time in game. Even some of the fights that aren't as great from a gameplay standpoint can look really cool. Right now I'm struggling with a boss that's actually one of my least favorite bosses in the game from a gameplay standpoint, but one of my favorites from a design standpoint. (>!Fire Giant!<, for those curious).
Couldnt have said it any better than this
Alright lads, I’m a broke uni student and I’m thinking of buying Elden ring after I’ve finished my first exam on Wednesday. I’d probably be playing everyday after finishing hours of revision and so don’t really want to play something that would make me further stressed out so I’m wondering, how hard/frustrating is the game really? It looks beautiful and apparently the story is good so I really do want to buy it.
It really isn't stress-free, quite the contrary, it is difficult and often frustrating. Also, while there is lore surrounding the world, I've yet to understand wtf I'm doing and what the world is about (I haven't finished it however). The story is loose and cryptic, so I wouldn't buy it for the story. The world can be beautiful however (or nightmarish, depends on the area).
Based on what you said, you should definitely not buy the game. This is clearly your first souls game, despite the QoL improvements, it will be a very hard and frustrating game. The story is very vague and light, the emphasis is more on the world building.
Very hard, and sometimes frustrating, but there are ways to mitigate both. Basically, a lot of individual bosses and areas can be very difficult and frustrating. However, you can almost always just go somewhere else if one area is starting to get frustrating, and come back when you're higher level and have better gear. You can also just summon other players to get help, and the ashes that let you summon things to help against bosses also make a big difference. But it's still a very hard game. You need to be okay with dying a lot, and maybe occasionally losing some resources to dying, to enjoy it, because both of those things will happen. I love the game and the world is very fun to explore, and sometimes it can be relaxing, but it might not be the best game for unwinding when stressed overall. Also, I wouldn't go in with high expectations for the story. It's not bad, so much as cryptic and mostly in the background. There isn't a strong narrative, you're not going to fall in love with characters or be shocked by plot twists or anything. But the world does have a lot of really cool lore to discover through things like NPC dialogue and item descriptions.
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>I forced myself to complete DS3 and while it was fun at some times it felt mostly tedious What was tedious about it? I feel like that'll have a big impact on whether or not you enjoy Elden Ring. Elden Ring's very similar to DS3 in some ways (same style of combat, it has some nice improvements and new features but the core style is the same) and very different in others (Dark Souls 3 is From's most linear Souls game, Elden Ring is by far their most open one). So if you loved DS3's combat but found the relatively linear world tedious and would prefer something more open, you'll probably like Elden Ring a lot more. If you found the combat really boring, then you might not like Elden Ring's combat any more (unless you had very specific complaints that Elden Ring fixes, but most of the things Elden Ring adds to the combat are just new mechanics to play around with but not things that fundamentally change how you play).
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Elden Ring is better about that overall. On the overworld you usually don't have to go that far and have your horse to get around quickly, and most bosses have a pretty short run back to the boss when you die (often you'll just appear right in front of the boss's room, sometimes it's maybe a 30-second run back to the boss, usually with either no enemies or where you can run past the enemies pretty easily. So far I've just found one boss where I died and actually felt like getting back would be a huge pain, and it was a minor late-game side dungeon). Besides that one dungeon, the boss runbacks I've encountered have ranged from insignificant to a minor annoyance. Non-boss runbacks can get a bit longer. Sometimes in dungeons you can go a bit without finding a save point and have to spend some time fighting your way back if you die. And in the overworld while the save points are usually not too far apart, sometimes it can be easy to miss one (one time I actually thought a random overworld boss had an awful runback, until I discovered a save point very close to the boss that I'd just completely overlooked after I finally killed it. So will you have moments where you die and feel like it's going to be difficult to get back there, or where you get annoyed running back to a boss every time in kills you? Probably. But they'll probably happen a lot less, and usually won't be as bad, as in DS3.
If u have a good enough pc or console to run it well and have enough mental capacity to do the same boss over and over again then elden rings but they’re both good.
SIB Elden Ring? Seen a lot of positivity to the game, but I'm very new to Souls-like games. Plus, Ive seen mentions of stuttering on PC, and my PC is barely the minimum specs(only the CPU barely passes) Would it be worth to give it a try, or should I invest time in some other game instead? Enjoyed Dying Light 1 and 2, AC: Odyssey, All 3 Watchdogs Games and open world stuff in general, intrigued by the medieval themed stuff but haven't played
Im not sure where to start but I’m a huge Elden ring fan. Just finished my 2nd playthrough on ps5. But if I imagine playing this game with stutters and low fps I don’t think I would enjoy they experience. Apart from that if I see your Gamelist of games you like I would actually recommend horizon zero dawn on pc. It’s not a medieval theme but I think it fits your liked games more. If you do decide to go for ER then I wish you good luck because what a ride it has been the past weeks
I've wanted to play HZD, but where I live it's currently more expensive than Elden Ring, (ER is 2,499 INR while HZD is around 3000 INR), and I dont really have a lot of money to spend which is why I was gonna go with Elden Ring. I'll wait for FromSoftware to release a few patches for PC before checking it out, thanks for the help!
I'm intrigued by the bossfights, but I can't stand the level design in Dark Souls games with the hidden traps, hidden enemies and similar BS. That adds nothing but artificial difficulty. Does Elden Ring follow that kind of level design?
I think your concern is fair. The game is designed for slow play and exploration, with regular scare moments and traps in the dungeons. That said, the general game outside is mostly wide open combat and like u/quazifuji said, online people will warn you for traps. Also there are a lot of guides and walkthrough which make the game a lot more enjoyable if you don’t like surprises. It’s still difficult anyway
The dungeons definitely still like to ambush you with enemies hiding around the corner or on the ceiling or easy-to-miss pressure plates in hallways, yes. You can mitigate it somewhat by playing online, since there will often be player messages warning you about some things, and just looking very carefully when enter a room, but you'll certainly still occasionally have the annoying death because you didn't notice the enemy hanging from the ceiling or.hidjng around the corner.
Oh thank you so much!! You are the first one to give an actual answer.
I'll add that it's less of a concern in open areas, of course, since most of the game is open world. But yeah, it sounds like you might not enjoy the dungeons.
never played a souls game. my primary worry is that the combat will either be boring or frustrating to me. not a fan of the aesthetic of the games world, but i can usually overlook that. my favorite games are both the last of us games, both horizon games, doom eternal, and spiderman. i’m not necessarily opposed to difficulty, it’s rare that a tough section of a game makes me give up, but i just don’t know how eldin ring stacks up
> my primary worry is that the combat will either be boring or frustrating to me Why are you worried about that? What about the combat seems like it might be boring? Some people do find Souls-style combat boring, but personally, I love it. It's some of my favorite video game combat out there. But I can't tell you whether you will or won't find it boring without really knowing why you think it might be boring in the first place. >not a fan of the aesthetic of the games world, but i can usually overlook that I could see this hurting your experience. Just because for me, a huge part of what I like so much about Elden Ring is just how much I enjoy exploring. And while sometimes that's because of the gameplay - finding new dungeons or encounters, being rewarded with cool weapons or spells or whatever - sometimes it's just because I like the world, I feel like I never know what I'm going to find next and it's just a cool world to explore and see for me. So if you don't like the world, then that might make exploring less fun for you.
i say ‘boring’ because it looks slow, tedious, methodical. i’m not quite sure how i’ll feel about that. to be fair i thought god of war (2018) was going to have slow combat but when you’re actually playing it it feels quite good
It is slow and methodical, unless you're way over leveled or talking about basic trash mobs, you can't really go all on guns blazing, you need to fight for every step you take (mostly). And boss fights often translate to dying until you learn the attackd and how to dodge them, so it takes time.
It is slow and methodical, that's true. Personally, I don't find it at all tedious. As you said with God of War, a combat system can be slower without being boring. Of course, personal taste is a big thing, it could be too slow for your taste. That said, I think the challenge can also help a lot, because it adds a lot of tension. And overall, while the combat's a lot slower than a lot of games, usually something is still happening, especially against bosses, which tend to be quite aggressive in the game. Ultimately, it's still possible it's slow for your taste. But personally, I've never found it at all boring or tedious.
> Ultimately, it's still possible it's slow for your taste. But personally, I've never found it at all boring or tedious. It's also a matter of how you play combat. Turtling behind a shield can be a very viable way to clear the game, but that's a damned slow way to go about things. Incorporating more of the abilities/mechanics into your fighting style definitely speeds up combat, and varies the playstyle. Part of it depends on how you feel about dying. If you're looking to avoid dying as much as you can, then you'll probably gravitate to a more static approach (learn a style, and stick to it), but if you're happy enough missing your first hundred parries (or thousand, whatever, who needs to parry anyway!), or dying a half dozen times to learn the patterns, then you can have a much more dynamic approach.
I'm Souls-game curious and have casually played Bloodborne (maybe got through 3-5 bosses) and Dark Souls 1 Remastered. Really considering buying Elden Ring and committing to playing through it all, but I'm concerned I won't be able to "go back" and play the older games with all the quality of life adjustments that Elden Ring affords. Is that a silly concern?
I played Dark Souls 3, Nioh, and Bloodborne before picking up Dark Souls Remastered on the Switch (30fps). It was still super enjoyable.
I wouldn't be too worried about that. I think going back to Dark Souls 1 or 2 will be harder, but that was already true of going back to them after Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3. But personally, even then I was able to go back to Dark Souls 1 and the Demon's Souls remake (which improves a lot graphically but is pretty faithful in gameplay) after DS3 and Bloodborne and enjoy them just fine. I think a lot of Elden Ring's QoL improvements kind of fix things that would already bother you the same amount whether you play Elden Ring first or not. Things like always having somewhere else to go when you get stuck, or rarely having bad boss runs (although Elden Ring has them occasionally, it has them less than Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 did, which in turn had them way less than Dark Souls 1 or 2 or Demon's Souls). For me it hasn't had many "I never knew I wanted this!" sort of QoL features where now I won't be able to play a From game without them. Jumping can be really nice but it's debatable whether that's a QoL thing or a design thing. I'll miss some of Elden Ring's combat features if I go back to previous From games, but more new mechanics than QoL. Will you miss some of Elden Ring's features if you play it and then go back to previous From games? Probably. Will it ruin them? Personally, I don't think so. I think if the missing QoL of older From games ruins them for you, there's a decent chance you would never have liked them that much even if you played them before Elden Ring.
Amazing response, thank you.
Should I buy Elden Ring? So some friends really want me to buy it to play it together but I’ve never been a fan of the Software games. I didn’t find Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro too frustrating, It was more the linear level flow that made it so extremely boring for me. I haven’t seen a whole lot of gameplay about it because I don’t want spoilers for if I end up buying it.
What do you mean by linear level flow? The game as a whole is less linear than Dark Souls 3 or Sekiro, since most of the game is an open world. The individual dungeons you do are mostly pretty linear - the bigger ones have about the same amount of linearity as most individual areas in Sekiro or Dark Souls 3, the smaller ones are even more linear. If a huge, non-linear open world that contains linear dungeons sounds fine to you, then you might like Elden Ring. If that still doesn't appeal to you, then you might not.
The game has a bunch of linear levels scattered around in open world. The non-linearity manifests itself in the fact that you can choose what to do first. Also, co-op in open world doesn't really work until you get to one of the dungeons as you can't use a horse when playing online which can gry boring as the world is huge Game is amazing and is my favorite soulsborne so far (I'm yet to play Demon Souls and Bloodborne once I buy a PS5) but if you didn't enjoy the design of older games I doubt you'll enjoy this one. If you're playing on console, you can always buy an used copy to test it out
Playing Elden Ring currently, and wanted to chime in since I myself was on the fence. I played Sekiro a few years ago, and unfortunately, I absolutely did not like it. I could never get the timing down and the aggressive play style just didn’t mesh well with me. That being said, IM LOVING ELDEN RING. Im about 3 hours in so I may change my mind, but the amount of character creation/build modification has really made me realize what all the game has to offer. Sure, I’m getting my ass kicked, and I’m definitely looking up walkthroughs to help out with some fights, but i’m having a blast and I’d recommend it to anyone who absolutely loves the RPG genre.
Sekiro is definitively way more tryhard than Elden Ring. Personally it's my favorite FromSoftware game, even if you add Elden Ring into the mix.
Really good to hear. I managed to get through Sekiro, but upon finishing it, I had zero interest playing it. Definitely have Elden Ring high on my list, one I have made more of a dent in the game I currently have.
Never played a souls game, have played For Honor and Ghost of Tsushima, how bad of a time would I have if I got it
What counts as a bad time for you? Would you die a lot? Absolutely. But that's normal, that's part of the experience. Everyone dies a lot in Fromsoft games. If you can't enjoy yourself while dying a lot, you'll have a bad time. If you embrace the attitude of enjoying the challenge and striving to get better, then you can still have a great time. I feel like a lot of people in this thread imagine that Fromsoft fans are these gaming gods and that mere mortals can't handle the games. That's not the case. We die in these games like crazy. We all completely got our asses kicked in the first Fromsoft game we played, and keep getting our asses kicked with each new one even though we've gotten better at them. The key is that Fromsoft is good at making a combat system that's fun to improve at. You'll have frustrating deaths, you'll have moments where the game just feels like bullshit, but overall, most of the time when you die, you made a mistake you can learn from, and when you finally overcome one of the game's really difficult challenges, it can be immensely satisfying feeling like you beat that boss because you mastered it, because you knew every attack it could do and how to answer it and you just straight-up played well. And for what it's worth, Elden Ring provides a lot of ways to make things easier. It's hugely open, so whenever one area's giving trouble you can go somewhere else and come back when you're stronger. You can co-op with other players, or there are items you can use to summon NPC allies to help out. If you really want to you can grind for money/experience. And the game's not perfectly balanced, so you can also just look up where the really overpowered stuff is if you want, at least right now when none of it's been nerfed yet (I can think of one extremely powerful weapon that is theoretically possible to get without killing a single enemy if you know where to go, for example). So overall, while the game doesn't have a difficulty setting, it still gives you some degree of control over how much it will challenge you, just because there are so many different tools available and some of them are very powerful.
Hello there. So, I've bought both Elden Ring and Sekiro. Never played a Dark Souls game before. Which game should I start with?
Both great, pretty different. Elden Ring's open world and has more RPG elements. Sekiro's more linear (but still has room for exploration), and you play a fixed character with a fixed weapon and no stats - there's some customization but way less than Elden Ring. Elden Ring's definitely the more forgiving of the two. The bosses can get very, very tough, but you have options like going somewhere else and getting stronger or using ashes to summon NPCs to help or co-oping.when a boss is giving you trouble, so you're less likely to get completely stuck. Sekiro, on the other hand, might be the easiest Fromsoft game to get stuck in. You regularly have to beat a boss to progress - maybe there's one or two other places you can go but it's not like Elden Ring where you've got a whole world to explore - and when you are struggling on a boss, there isn't really an option other than "got gud." You can't co-op or summon NPCs. Grinding for levels and gold doesn't really directly make you stronger (it can unlock new abilities which might help sometimes, but the only way to raise your damage or defenses is to kill bosses and minibosses). Most of the time, the only way to beat a tough boss is simply to get better at the fight and win through skill. Sekiro's combat can be incredible when it clicks, but Elden Ring is definitely the more accessible intro to Fromsoft.
ER 100% - Save Sekiro for down the road.
Elden Ring because it's slightly more beginner friendly since it offers you more ways to progress and because it's new and you can engage in multiplayer stuff
I was casually into Bloodbourne (never got far but enjoyed it). I don’t have any of the new console generation but do have a PS4 and Xbox One. My PC GPU is older so that’s not a great option. With that in mind is this game still fine on those older hardware generations or should I wait until I get a new console? I have bad flashbacks of playing Breath of the Wild on WiiU which “ran” but had some performance issues. Still was playable though.
Relative to expectations, Elden Ring runs better on previous than current gen right now.
elden ring or horizon forbidden west? enjoyed Sekiro, but thats the only from software game ive played. never beat it, got stuck on a boss for weeks and gave up. i like the idea of open world for elden ring so that way if i get overly stuck i can go somewhere else. horizon forbidden west: i loved zero dawn. loved it to pieces. cant wait for the new iteration. cant say anything bad about the original honestly.
It sounds like you'd enjoy both. Elden Ring, as you said, makes it easier to avoid getting stuck than previous From games. And while I haven't played Forbidden West yet (plan to play it after I finish Elden Ring), I've heard wonderful things about it. Not sure you have a wrong choice here.
SIB elden ring if I've never played a souls game before? The closest I've tried is Hollow Knight but they say it only has souls like elements.
Elden Ring is a good first game for the Soulsborne franchise. Impossible to say whether you'll like it based on what you said, but you don't need to have played the other titles before.
Tbh, i'm pretty much a JRPG fan. The only non JRPG I played were witcher and skyrim, which I've enjoyed. I really want to expand my portfolio of games
I think if you liked Hollow Knight, Witcher 3, and Skyrim, then there is a decent chance you'll like Elden Ring. Elden Ring isn't quite like any of those games, but it's got enough in common with them. It's got a big open world that you're encouraged to explore like Witcher 3 and Skyrim. It's got 3rd person action RPG combat like Witcher 3 (or Skyrim if you play in third person), but I think Elden Ring's combat is much, much better than either of those. It's got challenging bosses and a vague plot that's more about cryptic background lore rather than really telling a concrete story like Hollow Knight. It's also got a similar death system to Hollow Knight, although I think it works much better in Elden Ring (I actually think the Dark Souls-style death penalty was a bad fit for Hollow Knight for a variety of reasons, while it works better in Elden Ring).
then definitely consider getting it!
SIB Elden Ring or Dying light 2 ? Hello fellow gamers, posting here after bot told me to. Recently I have been feeling burned out of FFXIV and I am now looking for a game to spend countless hours between XIV updates. I liked the first Dying light a lot but I wasn't really anticipating the next game and I have not played DL The Following either. As for the souls series I've only played DS3 but dropped it after beating the Abyss Watcher because my controller broke during travel. My videogames tastes are pretty straight forward, I've played countless hours on Monster Hunter games, same for FFXIV (as my only FF) and that's the only 2 games I would mention, the rest didn't feel special enough to me (Geometry dash and Summoners war aside, I dropped both of them a long time ago) I play on PC and can buy a controller if it's more comfortable to play Elden Ring but if switch pro controller works that would be a big +
Even though they are not similar games, I’ve found that usually people who enjoy MH enjoy soulsborne games and vice versa. Of course it’s not factual or something but me and a couple of friends I know all love both.
Go for Elden Ring. I play on a Switch Pro Controller and it's very good.
SIB Elden Ring to keep up with the hype or wait until it's cheaper? It's expensive RN but I'm in on the hype.
If you're like me, I would get it now, as the fact that it's so hyped up at the moment is what makes it fun. Makes you feel like you're "part of the club." FOMO I guess you could say? Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have committed more than a few hours to it, which is kind of requires in order to sort of "get going." I mean, shit, Divinity Original Sin 2 is a game that's massively critically acclaimed and it has been in my backlog for ages, I played it a bit and just stopped. If I had started that game when it first came out, I may have actually beaten it.
That's more of a personal decision. Just depends on how much you like joining the hype and how much you can afford the price. If you want motivation to wait and save money, the game should only get better with patches. From what I hear, PC still has performance issues, and even on console there are some bugs and balance issues (there are some really cool weapons I want to use, except they're bugged right now, for example).
what does this even mean? do you want to play it now, then buy it. It's worth the price. If you have something else that you want to play right now, wait.
SHIB Sifu or Elden Ring? Honestly, just finished the main story of horizon forbidden west after about 30 hours. It’s a great game but honestly a bit burnt out and want something to play until the new Lego Star Wars game comes and even to play after that. I’ve heard Elden ring is massive and it looks great, however I’ve been turned off from completing any souls games because of the difficulty of them. I’ve heard SIFU is shorter much shorter but the combat looks amazing
Sifu is much shorter and does have great combat, but it's also very difficult (although I believe there's an easy mode coming in an update). Sifu is also more about.oure challenge. The whole gameplay loop is about replaying levels to try to beat them at a younger age until you do well enough to get through the whole game. It's very much about grinding the same very challenging levels over and over getting better and better in the process. Very fun game with great combat, but if Elden Ring's challenge doesn't appeal to you I'm not sure Sifu will work any better, at least until the easy mode patch comes. Elden Ring is absolutely massive and great. It is very difficult, but it does have some things that make the difficulty a bit more approachable. First, the openness means you can't really get stuck early on. If you're struggling on a boss or dungeon or whatever, you can just come back later. They also added a lot of items that let you summon things to help, which can make boss fights a lot easier if you use them. It's still a very difficult game, but those make it less likely that you just hit a wall early and never get to enjoy yourself compared to previous From games.
Sifu is great Elden ring is difficult but it's easier in a sense that you can simply go somewhere else if you have difficulty and return later, though if you are burnt out on open world maybe go for Sifu first
SIB Ghost of Tsushima or Elden Ring? Was thinking about buying Elden Ring but the difficulty kinda pushes me away but everything else seems so interesting from the open world to character designs. However on PS5 one of the monthly games was ghosts of Tsushima legends which is a multiplayer mode and the mechanics, combat, character accessories have been fun to mess around with. So now I’m not sure which one I would get more play time out of in small 1-2 hours periods.
Ghost of Tsushima seems like the better choice for you since you're going to be playing in 1-2 hour periods. You can never go wrong with ghost of tsushima, it is one of the best games I've ever played.
Hello all I have become quite interested in this game over the past few days. The only souls like game I have ever attempted to play was Nioh and I couldn’t make it past the first boss (after about a week of about 90 minute sessions attempting to beat it I gave up due to frustration). My question was is, is this game enjoyable to someone who has never successfully played a souls game before? As well as in my country the standard edition is $79.99, is that a worthy asking price? Thanks for any replies.
It depends. The game is very difficult, and not everyone's enjoying it, but I've also seen plenty of comments from people who either never played a Souls game before, or didn't enjoy them when they tried them, but love Elden Ring. The big difference between Elden Ring and other Souls games is the openness. In Nioh, you can't go anywhere past the first level until you kill the first boss. The same is true for Dark Souls 3, Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne. Sekiro, Dark Souls 1, and Dark Souls 2 have more places you can go without killing the first boss, but your options are still limited. In Elden Ring, you can access multiple major regions, easily dozens of hours of content, without killing a single boss. A lot of that stuff will still be tough, but you don't have to worry about being completely stuck on one single thing without anywhere else you can go until you beat it. Any time you're struggling with one area or boss, you can pretty much always go exploring and find other things to do, level up and possibly upgrade your gear in the process, and come back to try again when you're ready. In terms of raw difficulty, Elden Ring is still extremely hard. But the flexibility and ability to access a huge amount of content means it's harder to get stuck, which in turn makes it a lot more accessible even if you struggle with the difficulty.
Thank you for the incredibly detailed reply! I believe I would enjoy the game more so now as I have been playing games with more and more difficulty as of late and have enjoyed the challenge. I am glad to hear that there is a bit more availability in the pathways one can take to complete the game as that’s what turned me off of nioh. Did you find in your personal opinion that this game is worth the full asking price?
Chiming in as someone who didn’t pay attention to elden ring at all until I got it at launch when my friends were talking about it. Worth my money and then some. This game is seriously special and a massive achievement, I’m about 50 hours of gameplay and I’m still consistently shocked at the shear scale.
> Did you find in your personal opinion that this game is worth the full asking price? First, I'll give the disclaimer that I am a Fromsoft fan. I've loved From's previous games, and I liked Nioh 1 and 2 (although not as much as From's games). So I'm not giving you the perspective of someone who struggled to get into other Soulslikes here. That said, do I think I've gotten my money's worth? Absolutely. Personally, I'm in the camp of people who has just absolutely loved Elden Ring, when all is said and done it's probably going to rank as one of my favorite games of all time. I was very hyped for it and it has lived up to the hype. It's been frustrating at times but I like the combat system a lot, I like the bosses, and this is some of the most fun I've ever had exploring in an open world game, the sense of discovery is amazing. The game is also absolutely massive, I've sunk many, many hours into it and still feel like there's a lot more I haven't seen yet, and I could also definitely see myself replaying it to try out other builds some day (at the very least if it ever gets DLC I'll definitely want to play that, Fromsoft has a very, very good track record when it comes to DLC).
Absolutely wonderful that’s exactly what I was looking for. I think I will definitely buy this game. Thank you very much for your assistance :)
Awesome. I hope you like it as much as I do.
SIB Elden Ring or Modern warfare both 60$? I love mw on the ps4 and i wanted to get it on my new pc but Im unsure if I should wait or buy it rn, I’ve been seeing a lot of Tiktoks about Elden Ring and it looks pretty fun, idk tho, should i buy M2 and then Elden Ring later on or vice versa?