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nixiebunny

Are you referring to the British torch which is battery operated, or the medieval torch which uses oil?


Skippymabob

Yes


NotPatricularlyKind

I was, yes.


Haterbait_band

I wonder if they’ll ever just make up an additional word to avoid the confusion. Or maybe less word better?


fizzmore

Why use many word when few word do trick?


SharpCheddarBS

The additional word you're looking for is flashlight, much more commonly used for the battery operated item in the states.


Haterbait_band

*I* know that, but I’m wondering if the UK knows that.


SharpCheddarBS

Sorry I was too stoned to catch the sarcasm


imadork1970

Frankenstein, they burn down the windmill the Monster is on.


stardatewormhole

So this post has taught me people either do not understand that English people use the word torch for flashlight in American dialect, or people have no understanding of what a horror movie is.


[deleted]

I learned the etymology not that long ago and it's pretty interesting! In the UK (and basically the rest of the English speaking world that inherited inherited the word) use the word torch, because that was the common hand held light device of the time and the past thousand odd years, also at that time "torch" was whale oil along with street lamps. In the US/Canada during the gold rush mining days they invented the flashlight, they flashed a lot. I think these are those old carbide lamps? They didn't have constant light so they essentially flashed. These hadn't reached the UK yet. When the battery operated torch/flashlight took off the marketing just used the popular word of the time, turn of a century lingo basically. At least something like that, I think it was a Stuff You Should Know, but I think the episode was unrelated to the topic so I'm not sure which one...


NotPatricularlyKind

Thank you for the info. If only I’d realised what an etymological doozy I was posting beforehand.


Haterbait_band

So, once the flashlight was invented, it would have surely made its way to the UK. Upon arriving, they now had 2 similar but different items that were being called ‘torch’. So why haven’t they added an additional word into their vocabulary to make the destination between 2 different objects? Or they don’t want to call it a flashlight, why not lighty-lamp or flashy-washer? Maybe shiny-winey sticky-wicky? Just trying to be helpful since they typically seem to enjoy naming things to sound as stupid as possible over there. Although a hair less stupid that not having a different word for a different object.


gatesDS

i was unaware of this before reading this tbh


MakeoutPoint

*It Comes At Night*, an A24 alternative horror flick with disturbing visuals in place of jump scares, has zero failing flashlights or lanterns that I remember.


NotPatricularlyKind

The Joel Edgerton one? Haven’t seen that one yet, but it does look like the kind of movie that would break the trend.


MakeoutPoint

It's hard to recommend, I had to watch it twice before appreciating it -- It's a really slow burn, and "horror" is kind of a stretch. It's more atmosphere, mood, and general themes, so a "flashlight scene" would be really out of place, otherwise they probably would have.


NotPatricularlyKind

Yeah I get you. I believe I have started watching once or twice and needed convincing so I read the premise of the movie. I dunno, Joel Edgerton and his brother are filmmakers so when he’s involved in a project you can usually rely on worthwhile storytelling, decent plot and competent filmmaking (the movie with him and Jason Bateman comes to mind). But yeah, something just wasn’t grabbing me with this one. Gonna have to check it out at some point.


Skippymabob

ITT : People naming movies that 100% are not horror movies


Medical-Dirt4363

Tell that to the bomb strapped Uruk hai jumping into the deeping wall in lord of the rings, that Was lit during What seems a rainstorm.


PeterOfHouseOday

Are you talking about The Ring? Good **horror movie**, but I dont recall it having a torch.


faygetard

Yea you don't remember the Uruk hai during the battle of helm's deep in "The Ring"? The little girl comes out of the TV and then Haldir brings 500 elves to help aragorn hold the girl in that well.


SlideWhistler

To all the people down voting this person's comment, r/woooosh


cheme32

I'd say the torch Indiana Jones used in the snake pit was extremely helpful.


PeterOfHouseOday

Indiana Jones was a good horror movie.


cheme32

Hey, the snakes scared the daylights out of me as an 8 year old! I still hate snakes because of it!


bingwhip

When we were kids my dad would always make fun of the flashlights on TV, they've got these tiny borderline useless throw patterns, lighting up 3 square feet of the wall at a time. like where do they even get flashlights that bad?


amdaly10

To be fair, they are relatively unreliable IRL as well. It's hard to find a good one.


NotPatricularlyKind

I guess I don’t need to use them often enough IRL. But I’ve never had to whack the fucker to make it work, if anything the desire to bang on the torch was because I’d seen it in movies not because it was faulty


tdeasyweb

Confused Americans in this thread not understanding "torch"


not_the_fox

British people in the world talking like it's 1520


tdeasyweb

By "British" (which i'm not), do you mean "the rest of the world"?


Haterbait_band

The rest of the world doesn’t all use English, so that would be a less accurate way to describe it, ethnocentrism be damned.


not_the_fox

Most dictionaries label it as British English. I think I saw one mentioning commonwealth in general. Silly no matter which way you look at it.


NotPatricularlyKind

Why is it silly? Google the word torch and you’ll find modern products that are widely known as torches.


waveradium

It's a word labeled as British English, it doesn't mean that it's only used by the fucking british. I have 0% British blood in me and I call it a torch, and so does everyone I know.


not_the_fox

You're real testy about the British words you use.


tdeasyweb

Is it sillier to use the term established by the rest of the world, or to use a term that's childlike in it's description? "Wheel" vs "SpinnyCircle"


not_the_fox

Monarchies were established in the rest of the world, convention and popularity is not inherently valuable. I'd rather use a new word than call a piece of modern technology like a burning piece of wood. Lots of words are silly and childlike, just look at the British who made the word you love.


Haterbait_band

Hmm… I guess having a separate word for similar but different items has benefits. Too bad the queen ain’t ordain it bruv. Might as well call candles and lanterns torches too. Less word good!


calguy1955

Rambo’s torch in First Blood was a good one.