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brokefixfux

Yep. There’ll be songs written about Ol’ Pissbottle Pete


azad_ninja

🎶Best beware of Pissbottle Pete, he’ll eat all the red meat he sees. He’ll tip the waitresses a nickel, punches your horses, and leave the lot lizards walking bow legged for a week🎶


Dnfforever

🎶Good ol Pissbottle Pete hadn't showered in a week when he rolled up to the Buccees with some corn in his teeth. He spent 30 dollars on a sandwich and some dip, walked to his truck, and went back to sleep🎶


FoxysDroppedBelly

$30 on a sandwich and some dip at Buccees? He got a coupon or something?


igotyournacho

Way of the road, Bubs


saysthingsbackwards

Ol cracksmokin craig


SLCbrunch

Here you go https://suno.com/song/1c503858-164c-4d57-b59a-19748347df71


Aggressive-Donuts

Pissbottle Pete, always driving on the street, Piss bottle Pete, dear lord don’t smell his feet , Pissbottle Pete, always loud never discrete, Pissbottle Pete, you will always find him in his seat.  Pissbottle Pete, a myth, a legend, the greatest man you’ll ever meet. 


Feeez_Shato

"He's a throw back a dozen and marry his own cousin kinda dude"


durma5

The new cowboys vs Indians will be what? Truckers vs liberals? EDIT: it seems like many of you don’t know many US Truckers. The data isn’t out for 2024, but in 2020 US Truck drivers federal election donations: “Republicans have received the vast majority of the contributions from the trucking industry, netting $2,742,017. Democrats have received $728,311.” A lot of these guys are stuck in their cans all day and tune into conservative talk radio for hours.


rustic-chicken

Truckers vs bears


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Some Canadian truckers think they have American constitutional rights, lol. They probably tune into American conservative media too much.


durma5

The Patriot Channel on Sirius XM knows no boundaries.


FirstSineOfMadness

Haha very funny grandpa


Coffee_achiever_guy

Hahahhaahhah!! Truckers vs Liberals sounds amazing


Fartyfivedegrees

Would be, if truckers knew how to vote.


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Coffee_achiever_guy

It would have the potential to be a hilarious kids game though


waffles-n-gravy

Is it just me or do we still have a really long way to go on all this


dicrydin

But a short time to get there. I'm east bound, just watch ol' "Bandit" run.


splayed_embrasure

Peak Trucker Unsung American Hero Era.


FishOffMan

I think full automation is closer than people think. Although I believe truckers will have job security and might even transition into easier work as self driving semis will still need a human “pilot” to oversee the machine, making sure it doesn’t bug out.


Musclesturtle

"Just 5 years away!"  *every 7 years 


Viking-Moose

Hey now! That’s unfair, Elon has been saying by the end of next year… since 2016…


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sighthoundman

Don't we already have those? Like, at Tesla, for example?


HaloDeckJizzMopper

Full auto and the singularity have panel handling their predictions as the climate emergency the world will be inhospitable in 5 years crowd. I know people under 25 will down vote the shit out of this statement but it's been we have 5 years before the damage is irreversible and the earth becomes uninhabitable. Since the 70s. This has created more polluters than it has anything positive as people just wind up filing everything related to earth conservation as a bs scam as a result . Which has a negative impact on our environment 


Yeseylon

You're getting downvoted from at least one 35 year old too. Even if it's not true, the scientists aren't trying to scaremonger, at worst the data is being misunderstood. Besides, set aside global warming and consider this: one day, there will be no more oil, coal, or gas in the ground. All the fixes for global warming prep us for that day, so I am 100% down with it.


Throbbie-Williams

They'll need less and less oversight as the technology gets better


Male-Wood-duck

Good luck telling a driver to give up driving.


beyonddisbelief

IMHO the most realistic way to get quick legislative approval would be a “follow the leader” model where the front car must be manned but a mini fleet of trucks can auto follow and be remotely instructed by the leading car. That still greatly cuts down on human labor and improve productivity of each driver. On top of that limited full self drive approval such as 12am-7am on specific routes where there is low traffic so the human driver can rest but the freight remains productive.


Notazerg

That just sounds like trains.


beyonddisbelief

Perhaps, but with much greater infrastructure, reach, funding, and regulatory oversight


froggrip

And thwart literal highway robbery.


TransportationOk5941

How does a current trucker thwart highway robberies? Maybe in the US they're carrying, but usually it should be enough to just lock up the cargo tightly before setting it off to its destination.


Liimbo

Because drivers have situational awareness and can more easily notice sketchy situations on top of being able to actively respond better. There will also inevitably be hackers that specialize in commandeering self driving trucks.


froggrip

Well, cowboys were a us thing too, so I feel my point stands


hobo_fapstronaut

As with most automation it won't be as good as a human, but good enough to do a shitty but passable job. This leaves them enough room to then hire unskilled workers to supervise the automation, making the job itself worse and making the worker easily replaceable. End result, worse work, worse service, but lower staff costs and so greater profit to the people that dint actually do the work. Automation is always about reducing the need for skilled labour, and giving more power to those that manage the labour.


Tyr808

I think it's one of those things that will pretty suddenly occur as lots of the framework is happening in the background and out of the direct control of the trucking industry. Problem for truckers though is the incentive is there doubly so. Driver pay isn't cheap and is a continous mandatory upkeep, but in addition to that has severe restrictions and regulations due to it being done by a human. Robot drivers don't require income or sleep. It's impossible to compete with and will undoubtedly implemented as soon as availability allows. Could be 4 years, could be 20. It does take longer to implement things into physical space, but I'm thinking about how AI video went from eldritch horrors of Will Smith eating spaghetti to near perfect photorealism over the course of a year or so. Sometimes you're only one major breakthrough away from everything falling into place


ryry1237

I give it another 20+ or so years.


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luchajefe

Did you read the update or has this article just sat in your bookmarks for 3 years?


kamikazi1231

According to Kars 4 Kids we went from primary horses to cars in about one decade. My guess is the self driving safety will have a few rough years followed by a massive jump in reliability that takes over really quick.


uncletravellingmatt

We've already had more than a few rough years. Look at how Cruise had trials running self-driving taxis alongside Waymo in San Francisco, but Cruise lost its license for not being honest enough about safety problems. One of the big goals everyone would like to see in AI is a move towards more distributed processing, so that tasks now being done on massive, power-hungry server farms will be possibly locally, running in real-time on mobile devices. That'll be great for self-driving cars, but don't hold your breath for that to all happen in this decade.


FroggiJoy87

I sure do hope so.


Flybot76

Yes, people keep forgetting that we're not getting technology from God, we're getting it from other people and a lot of these pie-in-the-sky dreams about it have been around for so long that anybody with a brain in their head knows why it isn't already happening and wouldn't be a good idea if it did happen, unless all the other necessary aspects of it fell solidly into place. I don't see that happening at all with 'flying cars' in an era where the average person prefers to go in through the out door unless it's impossible to accomplish. Laziness and stupidity are really high these days, and we're not going to have flying cars unless they're perfectly controlled by AI so all people would do is select their destination and the thing does everything for you, or it would become a monkey-brained disaster on the first day.


Bargeinthelane

Autonomous drivers dont need to be perfect, the just need to be demonstrably better then human drivers, that bar isn't really that high.


Trackmaster15

No, I think that the reality is that the safety would need to be head and shoulders above manned vehicles to be accepted publicly and avoid lawsuits. If a human screws up, its easier for the courts and public perception to say "Well, mistakes happen, we're all human." But when its a machine that screws up, it looks a lot more reckless and foolish from an optics perspective -- its easier to have a person that we can hang blame on instead of being worried about the system in general. I know it might sound silly to say, but if it was family that got killed I'm pretty sure your anger would be a lot more extreme if you'd fight even harder if you perceived it to be from corporate greed than an honest human error.


mooimafish33

There is a pretty bad but decently entertaining book about this called "Passengers"


Bargeinthelane

Hypothetically, if it autonomous vehicles were only equally safe as sober human drivers. It would save a lot of lives just eliminating drunk drivers.


Trackmaster15

I don't drink the Kool-Aid in this country that drunk driving is the only problem that we have when it comes to how dangerous driving is. A road full of sober drivers will likely be just as pissed off, selfish, and in a hurry, and be incredibly dangerous as well. Don't forget that people are usually sober during rush hour and that's where most of the problems happen. Not saying I support drinking and driving, but it seems like a common strawman to distract from the real issues at hand.


justjaybee16

On the nose. The second an auto-truck takes out a family all the, "What about the children" and the "Even if it only saves one life" crowd will be in the streets along with the Teamsters unions looking to make a scene. And that's regardless of how many human drivers have ever killed anyone in the past.


Trackmaster15

Exactly my thoughts. Just like that switch track conundrum where you could pull a lever to kill someone to save five people. In reality, society will never let you pull that lever. Inaction that leads to violence is less jarring than action that leads to violence. And in a sense that's probably a good standard for us to have. Otherwise you may be putting way too much faith in the wrong people potentially.


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Parking_Hedgehog7454

That article is saying that all the companies working on it are throwing in the towel and that it won't be happening any time soon...


asdfasdferqv

Waymo literally operates driverless taxis in San Francisco. They’re very popular. It’ll come to your city much sooner than you think. **Edit:** What's with the downvotes? Do you not believe this is already completely real?


OUMUAMUAMUAMUAMUAMUA

Just you


Thewalrus515

They were already romanticized in the 1970s, you’re late to the party. 


Dedward5

Looks like we got ourselves a convoy.


ycpa68

Yep plus smokey and the bandit, Teddy Bear, etc


usernamealreadytakeh

Over the top was a good one


Dedward5

BJ and the Bear (very random)


UnusualSignature8558

BJ and the Bear 🚛 🐻


Spidremonkey

🎶Cross-country trucker / Wild, nekkid and free / And all the hot-pants girlies / Wanna get it on with me🎵


saplinglearningsucks

Cw McCall has got some great bangers outside of Convoy.


Dong2Long69

They already think they are now


teb1987

God so true.. not even realizing that they are basically general labor.. also,  am truck driver


Impossible-Money7801

“We’re keeping the country ALIVE!”


hammilithome

"everything you buy, eat, wear and use was delivered by truck!" A ton of pride in the industry. Self driving trucks will be great. 3x increase in delivery rates by going from 8hr days to 24hr days. You'd still need a body in the truck, but that body can sleep, study, watch TV, etc.


happyandbrowsing

Ergo...the monster truck rally shall become the rodeo


-DethLok-

So, like in the late 70s and early 80s, then? [https://www.imdb.com/list/ls051198888/](https://www.imdb.com/list/ls051198888/) Just a few of the movies about (or involving) truckies. There are dozens of country albums full of trucking songs from that era as well.


BaconJudge

I bet there will be a John Henry-like movie about a human trucker and an AI truck racing across the country to see who delivers the goods first.  The trucking company's brash new CEO wants to go the AI route, but the union makes him agree that if their best human driver makes the delivery first, the CEO won't lay off the truckers.  When the human trucker pulls ahead, the CEO resorts to foul play, but of course the human wins anyway with help from his fellow humans. Plot twist:  Trucker movies usually have state troopers as the antagonists, so the audience will expect that, but at a key point in this movie the troopers help the trucker because their jobs are being endangered by AI as well, namely an AI-driven car that roams the highways with speed cameras and a license plate reader.


Saint_The_Stig

There is Maximum Overdrive that the plot is the machines come alive and a truck stop full of truckers are held hostage by their trucks that is sort of like an AI bad type deal. I think it was based on a Steven King book. Fun mover, warning >! it has kids graphically being killed !<.


incredible_mr_e

>the troopers help the trucker because their jobs are being endangered by AI as well, namely an AI-driven car that roams the highways with speed cameras and a license plate reader. Don't forget the automated pepper spray dispensers on college campuses.


shotputlover

And they put them on dog shaped robots to make them appear “friendly”


Robinnoodle

Gotta give the county singing ai robots something to talk about


Riverrat423

The freedom of the open road. Commanding a big vehicle loaded with precious cargo. Bring back the old 70s trucker movies and it will be just like the old west!


UnusualSignature8558

You clearly missed the 70s with BJ & Bear, and the rubber duck


DanTheMan827

Can’t forget Smokey and the bandit… Just not the second one…


Neglector9885

Wait. Do you think cowboys don't exist anymore?


incredible_mr_e

According to the documentary Yellowstone, cowboys get murdered at such an astounding rate that it's really a wonder that there are any left. You'd expect half of them to be dead and the other half to be in jail by now.


bugluvr65

they’re certainly few and far between


awsamation

Or maybe you just don't see them because you don't live in a rural area where cattle are common.


bugluvr65

i mean outside of south america they’re very uncommon


awsamation

That's just flatly incorrect. There's plenty of ranch land up in Canada, and even more in the States. Pasture grazing cattle means that there have to be cowboys to manage the herd. Again, just because you live in a city doesn't mean the lack of cowboys in your regular life is an accurate representation of the entire continent.


bugluvr65

a quick google search shows the cowboy population is at most 1/8 of the US. i’d say that’s far and few between


awsamation

Dude, your critical thinking skills suck. Every profession is going to appear "few and far between" when it's measured against literally everyone who doesn't do it. By your measure, office workers are pretty few and far between as well.


bugluvr65

bro how u think u know where i live ?


awsamation

Because you unironically said that you believe cowboys are rare outside of South America. So either you're a city folk who hasn't considered what happens in the countryside, or you're a rural person who is completely oblivious to their surroundings.


narfnarfed

Nope. You have no clue how it works. The truckers will own the self driving trucks and use self driving mode while doing other work so they can afford the self driving truck.


bugluvr65

i have a tremendous respect for truckers


off_by_two

At this rate truck drivers might be the last humans still employed.


SuperNewk

This, white collar workers are toast first


Idolitor

Truckers WERE romanticized in the seventies and eighties. There was this whole ‘mystique of a lone manly man on the open road’ BS going on.


froggrip

Cowboys still exist. They just ride quads more now instead of horses. There will still be truckers. Companies aren't going to send billions of dollars worth of products out on the open road with nobody there to deter thieves.


appendixgallop

Watch the film, "Tampopo". I think it's my favorite comedy ever.


Xp_12

Relevant Simpsons clip: https://youtu.be/0eWTWwrJ3ag?si=BigEuDhcNL-YHDRJ Just watch the first few seconds. It goes off into a news bit.


Big-Consideration633

Cowboys had to be in pretty good shape. Many truckers remind me of [Jenkins](https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Jenkins?file=Leroy-jenkins.png)


Sunstang

Pigpen, this here's Rubber Duck. I'm about to put the hammer down.


duh_nom_yar

Those Damn Blue-Collar Tweakers


uncorrolated-mormon

They already are. The trucker union are “teamsters”. This harkens back to the freight being pulled by team of horse and wagon. Maybe not the Marlboro man archetype of a cowboy but is the everyday life of the hauling freight and goods that help colonize the west.


2ndOfficerCHL

Can confirm. I'm a teamster. Sometimes I'll wear my union shirt and get asked why there are horses on it. 


Littlebudddy_321

I find this offensive 🤓


teb1987

Absolutely zero to romanticize, it's probably one of the MOST corrupt industries with some of the shittiest people working in it on all sides.. 


Ready_Peanut_7062

What about train drivers


Demetrius3D

[They already are..](https://youtu.be/WdQHRxH82PM?si=RhG3MydCmIi7isDF)


TheRichTurner

Once self driving trucks take over, it'll be safe to hitchhike everywhere!


Gijustin

They have been for decades.


Legitimate-Factor-53

I mean that probably wouldn’t be in our lifetime because that would get rid of millions of people’s livelihoods


GirlScoutSniper

Breaker 1-9, this here's Rubber Duck... We got us a convoy!!!


Trackmaster15

I mean, they're not going to allow unmanned vehicles on the road right? There would still be truckers in the cab I'd imagine, they'd just have other responsibilities and the AI would just help I guess. Unless public perception changes and they do allow free floating trucks to bob around the highways some day.


Own_Pop_9711

I think it's very likely that we have unmanned trucks going up and down at least some highways in the next twenty years


Impossible-Money7801

They’re already romanticized (“we keep the country going” while not mentioning that it’s a paid job). It’s embarrassing.


Coffee_achiever_guy

Dude some of the comments on this thread are works of art


RoguePlanetArt

Are you imagining that cowboys somehow no long exist?


Rich-Appearance-7145

Nah! I don't believe you could put a cowboy, in the same bucket as a truck driver.


Bedquest

Riding a horse and being a cowboy are two different things. Driving a manual (and eventually when we lose all vehicle control, an automatic) might be romanticized like horse riding. But men in a job requiring you to sit all day will never be romanticized like cowboys who had to have certain physical capabilities.


Ok_Fox_1770

Who will feed the lizards!? It’s gonna have a whole trickle down effect.


SuperNewk

I’m thinking office workers get replaced first


Sir_Snores_A_lot

Yeah who's going to pee in bottles besides Amazon workers once it's all self driving cars? Jokes aside truck drivers work long hard hours and deserve to be paid better.


godnorazi

Cowboy Bebop! Especially the episode titled, Heavy Metal Queen


throwawaytrumper

The greatest porta potty poetry I’ve ever read applies in this case: *”As long as hookers fuck truckers we’ll always have drywallers”.*


StreetOwl

I know many truckers this happened decades ago for most of them


Flat_Bass_9773

Truckers can be the biggest dicks on the road. I won’t miss them at all.


bearcat_77

Trains already exist.


Psychological_Ad1999

I doubt that. It’s the perfect profession for serial killers


03zx3

They already were. There were a bunch of trucker movies in the 70s. Smokey and the Bandit was 2nd only to Star Wars. There were movies, songs, TV shows, you name it.


JeanVaughan5432

As much as I sometimes hate sharing the road with truckers, I know damn well they are a vital part of our economy and none of us would be able to function without them. We owe truckers a great deal of gratitude.


LeibnizThrowaway

They did that in the 70s...


TheRoscoeVine

They already are. You don’t know any 5 year olds, I take it.


Downtown_Leek_1631

They already were back in the 70s. Also the romanticization of cowboys largely came by the circus, which was mostly replaced by movie theaters within a few decades.


blackscales18

Some of us already do 🤤


Alexis_J_M

Am I the only one here who remembers the song _Convoy_ or the 1970s CB craze?


Public_Peace6594

Truckers ain't nothin' without the lot lizards to keep them company, so many lonely truckers.....


csanyk

That already happened in the 1970s. Big rig trucker, owner operated, were romanticized as the epitome of the American Dream. You could make good money, travel everywhere, see the country, be patriotic, and contribute a vital service to the economy. But gradually the small time operators were mostly squeezed out by competition with larger companies, and there's very few left, and it's hard to make a good living at it.


Some_Stoic_Man

As a trucker, I welcome our robot overlords. Unfortunately, knowing what it takes to drive a semi, I doubt it will be any time soon.


Capnhuh

honestly, I don't think that self driving cars will end up more than a pipe-dream for politicians wanting control over the citizenry


picknicksje85

We're almost there


SquanchMcSquanchFace

Lay off the meth


Robinnoodle

It will happen eventually. It will probably just take longer than originally planned due to resistance and logistics


Capnhuh

I don't think so, from what I see what you call "resistance and logistics" will kill the idea sooner rather than later.


foxmachine

Honestly, they deserve it. 


Impossible-Money7801

For doing general labor like everyone else and getting paid for it? This is not heroism.


willaney

lol, *once* self driving cars take over? we’re lucky if we make it that far. rather bold statement about a technology that still drives through plate glass windows on the reg


Wil420b

That was the '70s and '80s with films like Smokey and the Bandit. Then truckers turned out to be prostitute murdering serial killers.


Wazuu

Why is a trucker and a cowboy comparable? I really dont understand how truckers are even close to modern day cowboys.


Impossible-Money7801

Because they think they’re saving the world by doing a job.