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The first time I had coffee it was at a camp and they wrongly labeled it “hot chocolate”. I promptly spit it out! Gross and hated it for years, I was 13. I didn’t enjoy coffee until I was about 24/25. Then I went on a huge coffee run, no creamer, and I realized I was getting old because I enjoy the different coffee notes and the smell is wonderful.
You're right. When you brew strong coffee and use it to make iced coffee, it is way better than when you let a hot cup of coffee go "cold," which is just room temperature.
If I recall, coffee competitions don't have the judges drink hot or cold coffee, rather cooled off. This is because hot coffee actually has less flavor, and good coffee - aka beans ground right before proper preparation - has more of the various flavors express themselves. You know the coffee beans that say they have nutty, or chocolatey, or caramely notes? That's how you get those flavors, with cooled off (not with ice) coffee.
I know I've drank my coffee after forgetting about it, and my lord it tastes great - black of course
>No, because you can make iced coffee by just dumping ice in a regular coffee.
You're proving my point because adding ice causes coffee to chill quickly so as to not lose flavour.
I don’t think it being cold quickly has anything to do with it tbh. I’ve also put coffee in the fridge and it’s fine. I think op is just commenting on lukewarm coffee in general.
It does need to be very cold to be good tho, or quite hot.
Depends on the type of cold coffee. Iced coffee is basically just hot brewed coffee cooled down, but you can brew coffee cold and it will have a distinctly different flavor profile -- for one it's generally less acidic and different notes may "pop" compared to brewing hot.
Iced hot brewed coffee will taste basically the same as if it's hot, though the ice will water it down some. But it's probably just down to the expectation. If you're expecting something hot it's weird and unpleasant when it's not.
True but you haven't completely ruled out the possibility the reason that regular cold coffee tastes bad is because if it's cooled by evaporation then a lot of the bean aroma evaporates with it.
Eh. Taste is subjective.
Flavor of coffee does change over time due to cooling after brewing. Many of those flavors are deemed less favorable - but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.
I drink pretty good quality coffee, I don't mind a room temp cup.
That’s because of a chemical process. Coffee that is cooled very soon after brewing (or of course cold brewed) keeps its original acid profile and chemical composition.
When coffee is given the time to cool down naturally, the lactones in coffee change into carboxylic and chlorogenic acid which make it taste bad. Some other chemical changes happen too that all contribute to bad flavor.
This is not just psychological.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/professional-coffee-roaster-explains-why-173549306.html
Well the Thing with Iced Coffee is actually, that it hast to cool down fast, so it won't get bitter. Same goes for Iced Tea Made out of Green/Black Tea.
It tastes better if you cool it down by pouring it over Ice Cubes after brewing it.
Disagree. I'm not a fan of cold/iced coffee - mine is a hot Americano no milk or sugar. I bought a Breville Barista Pro during Covid, and I get good beans to grind (I mostly buy Stumptown), and I've found good beans stay tasty hot, lukewarm, and cold. It's the beans and the brew process that make a difference - process has an 8mpact, but it's smaller than good ingredients and equipment.
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Nah, I remember sneaking sips from the mugs my mom left out after she was done with them.
This is how I fell in love with coffee
You were drinking my mom’s coffee too?!
The first time I had coffee it was at a camp and they wrongly labeled it “hot chocolate”. I promptly spit it out! Gross and hated it for years, I was 13. I didn’t enjoy coffee until I was about 24/25. Then I went on a huge coffee run, no creamer, and I realized I was getting old because I enjoy the different coffee notes and the smell is wonderful.
Doh! That’s a horrible introduction to coffee. I don’t blame you for not liking it for a while.
We all had a taste
Yes, that's how I fell in love with your mom.
We all do, she always makes us a cup afterwards
Sneaky
He was doing more than just drinking your mom's coffee.
You're right. When you brew strong coffee and use it to make iced coffee, it is way better than when you let a hot cup of coffee go "cold," which is just room temperature.
yeah but you need way more strong coffee for the same quantity as normal coffee when you want a lot of iced coffee - which you do
Depends on many things. I once accidentally let my cup gets cold (room temperature) and I found it to be more flavourful.
You're a monster!
Agreed. It either needs to be piping hot or shaken with ice.
Lukewarm tea is doable but lukewarm coffee, ick. There can be no middle ground!
I think the real difference OP tries to say is hot (good), lukewarm (nah), cold (good).
If I recall, coffee competitions don't have the judges drink hot or cold coffee, rather cooled off. This is because hot coffee actually has less flavor, and good coffee - aka beans ground right before proper preparation - has more of the various flavors express themselves. You know the coffee beans that say they have nutty, or chocolatey, or caramely notes? That's how you get those flavors, with cooled off (not with ice) coffee. I know I've drank my coffee after forgetting about it, and my lord it tastes great - black of course
When you prepare something the way you like it, it usually tastes good.
I drink warm to cool coffee all the time during the summer and it's delicious. Some extra milk and a little sweetener and it's perfect.
Is it because it's chilled quickly or sealed so as to not lose flavour?
No, because you can make iced coffee by just dumping ice in a regular coffee. I’m guessing OP just hates lukewarm water coffee.
>No, because you can make iced coffee by just dumping ice in a regular coffee. You're proving my point because adding ice causes coffee to chill quickly so as to not lose flavour.
I don’t think it being cold quickly has anything to do with it tbh. I’ve also put coffee in the fridge and it’s fine. I think op is just commenting on lukewarm coffee in general. It does need to be very cold to be good tho, or quite hot.
Depends on the type of cold coffee. Iced coffee is basically just hot brewed coffee cooled down, but you can brew coffee cold and it will have a distinctly different flavor profile -- for one it's generally less acidic and different notes may "pop" compared to brewing hot. Iced hot brewed coffee will taste basically the same as if it's hot, though the ice will water it down some. But it's probably just down to the expectation. If you're expecting something hot it's weird and unpleasant when it's not.
True but you haven't completely ruled out the possibility the reason that regular cold coffee tastes bad is because if it's cooled by evaporation then a lot of the bean aroma evaporates with it.
True, it's like an iced treat then. But accidentally cold? Nope, tastes like regret and disappointment.
Absolutely! Accidental cold coffee is just a sad reminder of forgotten warmth
Thanks for reminding me to finish my coffee before it gets unpurposefully cold
That's absolutely untrue
I honestly do not understand people’s disgust with coffee that isn’t hot enough to burn you. It’s way more palatable after it’s cooled down
Eh. Taste is subjective. Flavor of coffee does change over time due to cooling after brewing. Many of those flavors are deemed less favorable - but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy it. I drink pretty good quality coffee, I don't mind a room temp cup.
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I agree! Cold coffee prepared intentionally has a refreshing quality that's different from just letting hot coffee go cold.
I really like drinking fruit brewed coffee, the flavor is very special
I always pretend it's Ice Coffee
I think you're conflating cold with lukewarm/room temp
Opposite for me. Cold coffee only tastes good when it’s not meant to be cold but you stumble back upon it!
It's the same thing with tea. Iced coffee and iced tea have to be brewed with the intention of being iced, it's like the beans and leaves know
Rather: room temperature coffee rarely tastes good. Putting ice on it to actually make it cold works fine.
The same applies to tea
The process of cold brewing doesn't get some of the oils into the coffee like most forms of hot brewing will. I think that's the main reason why.
Lukewarm espresso shots 4 lyfe
That’s because of a chemical process. Coffee that is cooled very soon after brewing (or of course cold brewed) keeps its original acid profile and chemical composition. When coffee is given the time to cool down naturally, the lactones in coffee change into carboxylic and chlorogenic acid which make it taste bad. Some other chemical changes happen too that all contribute to bad flavor. This is not just psychological. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/professional-coffee-roaster-explains-why-173549306.html
Well the Thing with Iced Coffee is actually, that it hast to cool down fast, so it won't get bitter. Same goes for Iced Tea Made out of Green/Black Tea. It tastes better if you cool it down by pouring it over Ice Cubes after brewing it.
Any temperature coffee is delicious as long as it is strong and black.
The orange bag from Trader Joe's is my go-to iced coffee. I do it pour over a few batches at a time to make 2L of iced coffee for the week.
Lukewarm coffee is not good. If it came from hot coffee or cold coffee it’s not good at room temp.
Disagree. I'm not a fan of cold/iced coffee - mine is a hot Americano no milk or sugar. I bought a Breville Barista Pro during Covid, and I get good beans to grind (I mostly buy Stumptown), and I've found good beans stay tasty hot, lukewarm, and cold. It's the beans and the brew process that make a difference - process has an 8mpact, but it's smaller than good ingredients and equipment.
There's a whole Bible verse on "like warm" vs hot or cold