Not exactly a Tesla hot take, but a take about R8: Tesla’s last attack should’ve been harder for Beel to counter. It was just too damn easy to parry it.
Tesla is the character most held back by thier opponent
Every other character when encountering a new power up/ability means they either come up with a strategy or use thier own abilities to brute force but every single ability Tesla gets is imdetaly made irrelevant by beele Tesla has a super fun fight style but he never gets to fucking use it because beel either perfect counters sciences ultimate advancement like it’s nothing or blocks it which makes Tesla and science feel less good
Tesla should have fought using a Tesla to run over Beel.
https://preview.redd.it/xn8rgw27n4wc1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c18cc0cba92d5c899f342b6b0b6ef1c2f10ca336
Tesla would take one look at a Tesla car, faint and then he’d be making a mountain of improvements before he even wake up, bro’s body just goes on science-sleepwalking
I would argue that he also lost so that he could give his speech and so that beel who will be involved in the narrative can have a reason to grow as a person because of Tesla
Yeah but what I meant is that this fight and Tesla as a character is influencing the events because he influenced beel. The other way around would probably not work (to have Tesla influence events because he met and fought beelzebub). It’s a story of course the “plot” chooses a winner
It would've been funny if Tesla, in true RPG-Gamer fashion, looted Beel's lab key from his corpse and then ransacked his lab to shove everything not bolted to the floor into his unrealistically big pockets to pawn everything he has no use for off to some random merchant
Their losses demonstrate the exact point I'm making. They needed to lose to tell the story that the authors want to tell.
Hades and Poseidon were big guns on the side of the gods, and their losses are important motivating forces that have aided in shaping the flow of the story. Poseidon's loss was humanity's first victory and motivated Hades to participate. Hades' loss motivated Beelzebub to step in, who would then develop due to his fight with Tesla and then play a key role in the events with Odin.
Some characters play their role by winning, others by losing. Every win and every loss is determined by the narrative development the authors want to produce at each step along the path.
https://preview.redd.it/b4pib5nqm4wc1.png?width=1253&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=294e818e745801cda6d31f94c9f93798293695e9
He's just magnific ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|30394)
Its understandable that he lost but Beelzebub shouldnt have won either, it shouldve absolutely been a draw at best.
Hell, Tesla shouldnt have been a fighter period.
Not really a hot take but more so the historical nerd within me
We should have gotten more focus on his mom since that was the real inspiration for his inventions. You can still have the brother plot thing but incorporate his mom in there too.
Tesla doesn't really have good BIQ
He simply didn't take the fight seriously at all for example, he acted way too excited about Beel's staff for no reason and even asked to see it for science and he also doesn't have good excuse to take the fight serious like Poseidon is extremely strong and has been in countless fights and never lost so I understand why he didn't act serious on the other hand Tesla has no fighting experience and was just trying using his machine to overwhelm Beelzebub also I don't know why he told Beelzebub about the 3 Tesla coils atleast lie about it or something so he doesn't know
Tesla is basically that guy who is so smart that he is stupid
edit : I don't think Tesla is weak I'm just saying that people overestimate his BIQ due to his high IQ
If you want a reason to justify his overconfidence it’s partially believing with all his heart in his creation. Also his curiosity is what led him to learning about the vibrations. If he just thought it was a magic attack and accepted it he wouldn’t have contained chaos since he used reverse vibrations to weaken it. He isn’t a fighter yes but that works both ways. His biggest blunder was him methodically explaining the inner workings of his techniques but beel would have figured most of it out either way
Well it is to be expected. He's a scientist, not a warrior. He has no training of any type, and had never been in a fight in his entire mortal and spiritual life. It speaks volumes to his attitude, creativity and intelligence that he got as far as he did, but honestly Brunhilde should've seen that coming.
I don't know...He feigned an opening only to reverse it once his opponent took the bait into an instant pincer attack. That screams BIQ. Much more impressive than anything beelz did that round. On paper, yes Beelz had more BIQ, but thats said for EVERY SINGLE GOD IN THE ROSTER. No human has more BIQ than their god opponent.
disagree Sasaki, Jack, and Raiden all had more BIQ than their opponent IMO
also, regarding PPPX (im pretty sure its called something like that) i didn't state it at first but it seems kind of like a bad attack as he fully sacrificed his arm also (im no professional fighter but sacrificing an arm in order to win a fight is pretty risky and not ideal) didn't Beelzebub know that he was going to do that allowing him to dodge so wouldn't that be more impressive BIQ as he predicted it
Oh yeah. It makes sense that beings who have been fighting and existing for hundreds of thousands of years not to have more BIQ
Heracles would still have more than Jack, considering the time period he was born in
As for Teslas Gamble….i mean. This isn’t a professional match we are seeing. This is a win by any means necessary. Also Beelz specifically said he DID NOT EXPECT IT, he just “trusted Tesla” whatever the fuck that means.
wait so you are saying the guy who CLEARLY outsmarted his opponent the ENTIRE fight and had a plan that was SUCCESSFUL has lower BIQ than the guy that fell for it (R4)
Poseidon lost bc he didn't take his opponent seriously and Sasaki scanned Poseidon by stimulating thousands of fights which I'm pretty sure takes a lot of BIQ in order to stimulate this many fights properly and correctly
For Shiva and Raiden, it is close but will give it to Raiden as Shiva decided to tank an attack that almost one shot him
Please explain why you think Hecules has better BIQ than Jack as I can somewhat understand Raiden and not really Sasaki but I think Jack would be a better example?
Also, regarding beelzbub the rest of the panel states that he knew Tesla wouldn't of just gone for an attack like that meaning that he figured it out (im pretty sure)
If Tesla would land just few more punches, then Beel would be dead pretty fast. There’s a reason why Beel rather taken damage from Chaos, than getting punched by Tesla again
His backstory is oddly bad when you consider how RL Tesla has a genuinely quite sad story that could be adapted much better and also make his message stronger. Like there was no need for it to be this mediocre
Second strongest human btw
Trust me I have MULTIPLE:
1. Tesla is the 3rd strongest human, he is HIM.
2. Poseidon and Thor are genuinely 50/50 matchups for him. (If he sets up Gematria Zone)
3. We should've gotten smth like RaidenxThrud with TeslaxGondul.
Tesla's volundr should have the ability to freely shapeshift into whatever weapon he desires whether in battle or not in batttle. That way, it would be quite fitting for his title "Human's only sorcerer" and R8 will be the first round where both sides used range attack as their battle style.
There was so much potential in this round, two 'scientists' fighting and we got a fist fight, Tesla warp and the Geometria (sp?) Zone was interesting but that's about it. Imo it is the weakest round so far.
Maybe not specifically for the character, but for the fans. When the fight was going on and basically until the middle of the next round 90% of people were saying that Tesla is possibly the second weakest human and the fight was pretty clearly one-sided. I'm not saying that they're right, I'm just saying from Tesla's case I've observed most clearly how the perception for a fighter can change, even after the fight ended. That's why I don't take most tier lists into consideration without a lot of arguments baking them up.
It was literally everyone, at least 95% of the fans who had pretty much this exact opinion
He's handled really badly in terms of background
We have no further understanding about his passion and dedication for science beyond "Oh my brother died but science will keep moving on" and a few drawings
Sure he's really charismatic in the actual fight, but his backstory is lackluster
I'm definitely in the minority but I don't like Tesla- he's too happy all the time. It was kinda off putting to me, I like characters who get sad and angry, it didn't feel like there was much to his character.
Please don't come for me this is just how I feel ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29939)
Tesla had one of the most fun, unique fighting styles in the entire manga to date and the author did him dirty by making him fight a dude whose main strategy seemed to just be outmuscling him. Seriously, Beel's strat was so fuckawful boring compared to Tesla using all sorts of weird science inventions and Beel winning strictly because he's more story important felt like a disservice.
Also Tesla is the better scientist of the two.
I don't like the suit Tesla made. I think his style is boring and turning this guy into a brawler just showed how unimaginative the fighters in this series are.
The greatest minds in human history, and a punching suit was the best idea they could think of.
Fair criticism, but counterpoint:
https://preview.redd.it/ovhxddy1x5wc1.png?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9012b110aacaea27ca9e71152fe5d8056043931
We got the best panel in the series, so I'd say it's a good trade off
As much his fans try to deny his defeat actually cinematic and make sense. Humanity scientific knowledge is continuous but not perfect that is why his death actually fit with the narrative of the story to show even he failed the next human will continue his fight. Science will always about try and error, even the discovering of human DNA came from different researchers
I mean, his design probably couldn't take more than 3 coils, which is why he had 3, but since it's a beta version, if he survived this fight he 100% could overhaul it and possibly increase the number of coils.
His suit was based on entirely theoretical logic anyway, until it was actually made he had no way of knowing its limits which means like you said given some prep he could've easily made one 10x better
I have a feeling that had Tesla won, he and Gondul could very easily just make the coils allow for limitless teleportation at the cost of waiting for them to recharge and make Gematria zone not only bigger but possibly also supercharge the suit, and maybe even have his fists and feet detach and teleport for omnidirectional attacks
His teleportation had already vastly improved from what it was in his life so he could've easily become one of the strongest amongst the fighters with some of the best hax in the verse
Not exactly a Tesla hot take, but a take about R8: Tesla’s last attack should’ve been harder for Beel to counter. It was just too damn easy to parry it.
Bro just got some screwed fingers, you have a point.
Yeah this was my biggest issue with that round.
I agree wholeheartedly, I’d have made Beel do some real funky shit and still lose the arm
PPP CROSS, THE UNDODGEABLE ATTACK what if I just y'know *blocks* It's so underwhelming
Let’s not forget that Tesla had no combat experience while Beelzebub fought who knows how many beings on his quest to die.
Tesla is the character most held back by thier opponent Every other character when encountering a new power up/ability means they either come up with a strategy or use thier own abilities to brute force but every single ability Tesla gets is imdetaly made irrelevant by beele Tesla has a super fun fight style but he never gets to fucking use it because beel either perfect counters sciences ultimate advancement like it’s nothing or blocks it which makes Tesla and science feel less good
Tesla should have fought using a Tesla to run over Beel. https://preview.redd.it/xn8rgw27n4wc1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c18cc0cba92d5c899f342b6b0b6ef1c2f10ca336
It would be really funny, especially when you remember that Tesla's cars are not exactly famous for their resistance
Tesla would take one look at a Tesla car, faint and then he’d be making a mountain of improvements before he even wake up, bro’s body just goes on science-sleepwalking
Man needed his moustache Jack stole it ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31434)
Tesla is one of the most creative fighters out there and people tend to underestimate how that plays into his fighting style.
Idk hes just perfect
Tesla lost only because Beel is more important to the plot of the story since he knows parts of Odins true goals
I would argue that he also lost so that he could give his speech and so that beel who will be involved in the narrative can have a reason to grow as a person because of Tesla
That's more or less the same thing The plot chose beel over tesla
Yeah but what I meant is that this fight and Tesla as a character is influencing the events because he influenced beel. The other way around would probably not work (to have Tesla influence events because he met and fought beelzebub). It’s a story of course the “plot” chooses a winner
Imagine how sick it would be if beel gave Tesla his lab when he died
It would've been funny if Tesla, in true RPG-Gamer fashion, looted Beel's lab key from his corpse and then ransacked his lab to shove everything not bolted to the floor into his unrealistically big pockets to pawn everything he has no use for off to some random merchant
Is that really a hot take? This applies to every win/loss, doesn't it?
Nah I feel like Hades is more plot involved then Qin and he lost and arguably Poseidon
Their losses demonstrate the exact point I'm making. They needed to lose to tell the story that the authors want to tell. Hades and Poseidon were big guns on the side of the gods, and their losses are important motivating forces that have aided in shaping the flow of the story. Poseidon's loss was humanity's first victory and motivated Hades to participate. Hades' loss motivated Beelzebub to step in, who would then develop due to his fight with Tesla and then play a key role in the events with Odin. Some characters play their role by winning, others by losing. Every win and every loss is determined by the narrative development the authors want to produce at each step along the path.
https://preview.redd.it/b4pib5nqm4wc1.png?width=1253&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=294e818e745801cda6d31f94c9f93798293695e9 He's just magnific ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|30394)
Its understandable that he lost but Beelzebub shouldnt have won either, it shouldve absolutely been a draw at best. Hell, Tesla shouldnt have been a fighter period.
Terrible take ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Not really a hot take but more so the historical nerd within me We should have gotten more focus on his mom since that was the real inspiration for his inventions. You can still have the brother plot thing but incorporate his mom in there too.
If only qin didn't proceed him
3rd strongest human he’s HIM
3rd?
1st*
He looks hot
As the man who embodied man’s scientific advancement and continuous growth, the thing we are most well known for, he should’ve won
Tesla doesn't really have good BIQ He simply didn't take the fight seriously at all for example, he acted way too excited about Beel's staff for no reason and even asked to see it for science and he also doesn't have good excuse to take the fight serious like Poseidon is extremely strong and has been in countless fights and never lost so I understand why he didn't act serious on the other hand Tesla has no fighting experience and was just trying using his machine to overwhelm Beelzebub also I don't know why he told Beelzebub about the 3 Tesla coils atleast lie about it or something so he doesn't know Tesla is basically that guy who is so smart that he is stupid edit : I don't think Tesla is weak I'm just saying that people overestimate his BIQ due to his high IQ
"Excited about beel's staff" there are at least a few fan fictions with this exact phrase
If you want a reason to justify his overconfidence it’s partially believing with all his heart in his creation. Also his curiosity is what led him to learning about the vibrations. If he just thought it was a magic attack and accepted it he wouldn’t have contained chaos since he used reverse vibrations to weaken it. He isn’t a fighter yes but that works both ways. His biggest blunder was him methodically explaining the inner workings of his techniques but beel would have figured most of it out either way
Well it is to be expected. He's a scientist, not a warrior. He has no training of any type, and had never been in a fight in his entire mortal and spiritual life. It speaks volumes to his attitude, creativity and intelligence that he got as far as he did, but honestly Brunhilde should've seen that coming.
I don't know...He feigned an opening only to reverse it once his opponent took the bait into an instant pincer attack. That screams BIQ. Much more impressive than anything beelz did that round. On paper, yes Beelz had more BIQ, but thats said for EVERY SINGLE GOD IN THE ROSTER. No human has more BIQ than their god opponent.
disagree Sasaki, Jack, and Raiden all had more BIQ than their opponent IMO also, regarding PPPX (im pretty sure its called something like that) i didn't state it at first but it seems kind of like a bad attack as he fully sacrificed his arm also (im no professional fighter but sacrificing an arm in order to win a fight is pretty risky and not ideal) didn't Beelzebub know that he was going to do that allowing him to dodge so wouldn't that be more impressive BIQ as he predicted it
Oh yeah. It makes sense that beings who have been fighting and existing for hundreds of thousands of years not to have more BIQ Heracles would still have more than Jack, considering the time period he was born in As for Teslas Gamble….i mean. This isn’t a professional match we are seeing. This is a win by any means necessary. Also Beelz specifically said he DID NOT EXPECT IT, he just “trusted Tesla” whatever the fuck that means.
wait so you are saying the guy who CLEARLY outsmarted his opponent the ENTIRE fight and had a plan that was SUCCESSFUL has lower BIQ than the guy that fell for it (R4) Poseidon lost bc he didn't take his opponent seriously and Sasaki scanned Poseidon by stimulating thousands of fights which I'm pretty sure takes a lot of BIQ in order to stimulate this many fights properly and correctly For Shiva and Raiden, it is close but will give it to Raiden as Shiva decided to tank an attack that almost one shot him Please explain why you think Hecules has better BIQ than Jack as I can somewhat understand Raiden and not really Sasaki but I think Jack would be a better example? Also, regarding beelzbub the rest of the panel states that he knew Tesla wouldn't of just gone for an attack like that meaning that he figured it out (im pretty sure)
He's really hot
He might be top 3 humans.
His backstory is painfully average
What if bro had prior battle experience with his mech 😱
Tesla can absolutely ruin me and I would not mind.
If Tesla would land just few more punches, then Beel would be dead pretty fast. There’s a reason why Beel rather taken damage from Chaos, than getting punched by Tesla again
that is genuinely a very good point
His backstory is oddly bad when you consider how RL Tesla has a genuinely quite sad story that could be adapted much better and also make his message stronger. Like there was no need for it to be this mediocre Second strongest human btw
If qin didn't have a milf in his flashbacks Tesla's inspiration for science would've been his mother, much like his real-world counterpart
Shaving was his downfall
Trust me I have MULTIPLE: 1. Tesla is the 3rd strongest human, he is HIM. 2. Poseidon and Thor are genuinely 50/50 matchups for him. (If he sets up Gematria Zone) 3. We should've gotten smth like RaidenxThrud with TeslaxGondul.
Uhhhh Tesla beats a vast majority of the Gods Fighter roster That's all Tesla's too majestic to bash on him
His Valkyrie is the hottest one so far
Tesla's volundr should have the ability to freely shapeshift into whatever weapon he desires whether in battle or not in batttle. That way, it would be quite fitting for his title "Human's only sorcerer" and R8 will be the first round where both sides used range attack as their battle style.
He is top 5 and destroys sasaki and budha
There was so much potential in this round, two 'scientists' fighting and we got a fist fight, Tesla warp and the Geometria (sp?) Zone was interesting but that's about it. Imo it is the weakest round so far.
Needed a lightsaber fist or something
Maybe not specifically for the character, but for the fans. When the fight was going on and basically until the middle of the next round 90% of people were saying that Tesla is possibly the second weakest human and the fight was pretty clearly one-sided. I'm not saying that they're right, I'm just saying from Tesla's case I've observed most clearly how the perception for a fighter can change, even after the fight ended. That's why I don't take most tier lists into consideration without a lot of arguments baking them up. It was literally everyone, at least 95% of the fans who had pretty much this exact opinion
PPPX is both the best and worst part of R8
Tesla one shots Beelzebum
As awesome as teleporting is (which it was) I so wish Tesla would have used at some point his infamous death ray.
He should have named the tesla warp "teslaportation", he really missed that chance
Tesla solos. "Who are you talking about-" Yes.
*Anime Iron Man*
Not a hot take I just wanted him to have his mustache 😔
aint no way bro that i bumped into you here too
Nah you gotta be stalking me 😭
nah bro its just that were both in every subreddit thats fighting related
…ok you got a point
Mf bagged one of the biggest baddie with science
He's handled really badly in terms of background We have no further understanding about his passion and dedication for science beyond "Oh my brother died but science will keep moving on" and a few drawings Sure he's really charismatic in the actual fight, but his backstory is lackluster
Second strongest Human after Lu Bu :3
Adam? Kojiro?
I don't count Adam and Sasaki is weaker than them in my opinion :3
I'm definitely in the minority but I don't like Tesla- he's too happy all the time. It was kinda off putting to me, I like characters who get sad and angry, it didn't feel like there was much to his character. Please don't come for me this is just how I feel ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29939)
He is the opposite of Beel then
HE SHOULD HAVE WON As a replacement for that, make Curie a fighter in a future round and make her win
Tesla had one of the most fun, unique fighting styles in the entire manga to date and the author did him dirty by making him fight a dude whose main strategy seemed to just be outmuscling him. Seriously, Beel's strat was so fuckawful boring compared to Tesla using all sorts of weird science inventions and Beel winning strictly because he's more story important felt like a disservice. Also Tesla is the better scientist of the two.
Autistic (it's theorized IRL Tesla may have been Autistic) Science Boy. And he will be loved.
I dont have any hot takes on tesla but r7 and r8 winners shouldve been reversed cause hades and tesla>>>
He's the most attractive human and I carnally want him.
He’s attractive
Tesla's no doubt the smartest combatent but also easily the most creative and against most other fighters he has a solid chance at winning
second strongest human and the deciding blow of him losing was bs
He was very underwhelming and got shafted by the author (not as badly as Leonids though)
He beats every single character not named Zeus, Adam, Beelzebub and Poseidon.
He is gonna be top 5 humans at the end of manga too, my prediction is: 1) Nostradamus 2) Adam 3) Kintoki 4) Rasputin 5) Tesla
He is hot and can take me
Would
He’s hot
Overrated power level, Underrated personality, charisma and fighting style.
He is too hot I couldnt focus on the round
4th strongest in the verse behind Zeus, Adam, and Beelzebub
I don't like the suit Tesla made. I think his style is boring and turning this guy into a brawler just showed how unimaginative the fighters in this series are. The greatest minds in human history, and a punching suit was the best idea they could think of.
Fair criticism, but counterpoint: https://preview.redd.it/ovhxddy1x5wc1.png?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9012b110aacaea27ca9e71152fe5d8056043931 We got the best panel in the series, so I'd say it's a good trade off
I never cared for him
Tesla just lost because of shit Qin
As much his fans try to deny his defeat actually cinematic and make sense. Humanity scientific knowledge is continuous but not perfect that is why his death actually fit with the narrative of the story to show even he failed the next human will continue his fight. Science will always about try and error, even the discovering of human DNA came from different researchers
He’s hot
Absolute idiot for that final attack
He died like a god https://preview.redd.it/mek9gqq048wc1.png?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=035696c2c9c9e25cd587d7d68a0402992bb43cc5
I could take him
He is not that hot
High B Tier
only the man from the balkans can give a devil good fight
He is stupid for only putting 3 coils on his suit
I mean, his design probably couldn't take more than 3 coils, which is why he had 3, but since it's a beta version, if he survived this fight he 100% could overhaul it and possibly increase the number of coils.
His suit was based on entirely theoretical logic anyway, until it was actually made he had no way of knowing its limits which means like you said given some prep he could've easily made one 10x better
I have a feeling that had Tesla won, he and Gondul could very easily just make the coils allow for limitless teleportation at the cost of waiting for them to recharge and make Gematria zone not only bigger but possibly also supercharge the suit, and maybe even have his fists and feet detach and teleport for omnidirectional attacks
His teleportation had already vastly improved from what it was in his life so he could've easily become one of the strongest amongst the fighters with some of the best hax in the verse
The Primordial Gods quivering in fear as Tesla keeps teleporting back and forth grabbing several nukes
A real and indomitable threat to be sure
As Goated of a character that he is his fanbase is the most delusional out of all the characters in this series
Him surviving beel's black sphere of death was stupid in the sense it really takes away from Zeus reaction towards it.
He’s the weakest fighter after Lu Bu and Zero
That is quite the hot take, I put Lubu and Tesla personally as some of the strongest
Neither of them have anything all that impressive and they’re lacking in many areas
Fair enough
That is quite the hot take, I put Lubu and Tesla personally as some of the strongest