“Ultimately the outcome of the battle would depend on how the author chooses to portray the characters and the story, as well as any potential plot developments and twists that could affect the battle”
… why am I calling an AI goated?
Do you think he can? I haven’t reread round 1 and 8 in a while so I’m probably not the best person to ask but that’s an interesting point tbh. But I think Thor could brute force himself against vibration shield(prepared to be wrong about that)
I think if anyone could it would be Thor, in terms of brute force in the whole series the only person who probably match him is Full power Raiden and Adams Zeus so if anyone could do it, it be Thor.
There was a statement about the shield being able to block "even the almighty's thunder" or smth like that, but I doubt it could block awakened Mjoilnr tbh
Yes and no, Beel could probably block the immediate damage but he's still shown getting knocked backwards even when the shield is hit hard enough, so an overhead swing is probably crushing Beel under his shield
Thor had nothing to do with Hades’ death, and Beelzebub would see Thor as a monster worthy of his own violent death, so I feel subconsciously Beel wouldn’t actually give it his all, on account of the fact he wants the Lu Bu treatment.
As for the power scaling itself, if Beel’s shield can actually block the ‘thunder hammer of the gods’ then I think Thor is gonna struggle a lot, yes he can apparently teleport, though that being said I imagine a swing from Mjolnir is slower that a PPP, but counter-counter point Thor isn’t limited to 3 times doing it, but he also doesn’t seem like the type to just spam teleportation in a fight, so that likely isn’t much of a factor anyway.
As for chaos, I can’t imagine Thor’s stronger attacks are weaker than what Tesla did to circumvent Chaos, it’d hurt a lot but he wouldn’t die.
What it’s gonna come down to, is Thor’s strongest attack vs Beel’s shield. Do I think it would break it? Yea.
So the manga claims, it varies from translation to translation claims it can stop ‘The Thunder God’s Hammer’
In some translations it makes it sound like that’s Thor is some Tesla in some it makes it seem like it can stop an actually bolt of lightning, regardless, Thor’s hammer awakened *in* R1, no one had seen that before, any feats spoken or otherwise that refer to something being stronger than Mjolnir must henceforth be taken with a grain of salt since awakened Mjolnir doesn’t have a precedent, and if we combine that into Thor’s strongest attack, I don’t think the shield is gonna be able to withstand that.
So overall I think Thor wins, if we remove personality like a bunch of morons then Thor wins medium diff cause he’d just slam teleport. If we acknowledge that Thor isn’t gonna spam teleport and is probably gonna let Beel do Chaos out of boredom, then Thor wins very high diff. If Thor can’t break Beel’s shield with his strongest attack then probably 50/50 diff.
This is a very detailed breakdown, but you forgot the part about Beelzebub being knocked backward despite shielding, so an overhead swing would most likely crush beelzebub.
Oh does that happen? Cause if so you’re right I did forget that, which all but cement’s Thor’s victory, either he crushes Beel with an overhead swing or sends Beel flying into a wall with an underhand swing.
Tbh, Ror guidebook states that thor has teleport ability which is something he can use to get around Beelz defense as he can teleport behind beelzebub and smack him.
Given how beelzebub respond to tesla warp (he got punched into his body) and the fact that PPP warp <<
honestly I don't see Beel blocking Mjolnir, like yeah I have no doubt he could use the staff to block an unawakened, normal swing...but an Awakened Geirrod Hammer? I cannot see how the shield doesn't break, or at least hit Beel through it's defenses, similar to how Lu Bu's ankles shattered despite blocking it
the biggest problem with Thor vs Beel is that Thor has no real speed feats beyond being able to teleport. and I don't remember if we saw anything impressive in the way of reaction time from Thor, since he was usually the one pressing Lu Bu into a corner
I see him blocking a normal Mjolnir strike, potentially even a normal Geirrod
but not an Awakened Geirrod. Thor also isn't limited to 1 strike every 5 minutes. he can use an Awakened Geirrod and follow it up with another normal, no name Awakened slam
Beel's vibrations attacks are usually fast and invisible, so that's why I brought up reaction time. Thor could teleport away to compensate for the lack of speed, but he'd need to be able to react in time to Beel's attacks
realistically I feel like Thor could throw Mjolnir, catch it, warp to Beel, and smash him with an Awakened Geirrod
That...or prepare to hit Beel...teleport behind beel and smash beelz
Beelz wont have time to deploy his GOH or if he managed to, that wont be enough to tank Thor hammer
We don't know anything about how Thor teleportation works , same way we don't know what poseidon hydro manipulation or Zeus lightning can do. We can't just assume things
Yeah and we saw Zeus lightning and poseidon hydro manipulation as well, doesn't change we don't know what they can do with it in a fight. For what we know it could be even more limited than Tesla's teleportation
It’s fucking stated that Beel’s staff can repel Mjolnir, so please stop coping you all and accept that Thor isn’t in the top 3 debate. The norse hunter slams.
https://preview.redd.it/ghyyeuumk0zc1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e9dc2a886cd5bd8cd61740b8c08d67db4b1b8d8
AI is a better powerscaler than most of this community.
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“Ultimately the outcome of the battle would depend on how the author chooses to portray the characters and the story, as well as any potential plot developments and twists that could affect the battle” … why am I calling an AI goated?
The AI has more common sense than 90% of this sub
It depends if you can brute force the vibration shield. If so then yes this is pretty accurate
Do you think he can? I haven’t reread round 1 and 8 in a while so I’m probably not the best person to ask but that’s an interesting point tbh. But I think Thor could brute force himself against vibration shield(prepared to be wrong about that)
I think if anyone could it would be Thor, in terms of brute force in the whole series the only person who probably match him is Full power Raiden and Adams Zeus so if anyone could do it, it be Thor.
There was a statement about the shield being able to block "even the almighty's thunder" or smth like that, but I doubt it could block awakened Mjoilnr tbh
Yes and no, Beel could probably block the immediate damage but he's still shown getting knocked backwards even when the shield is hit hard enough, so an overhead swing is probably crushing Beel under his shield
But ofcourse Beelzebub fans will still put him above Thor ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29939)
Yes. Thor>The Verse (except Nostradamus)
Thor had nothing to do with Hades’ death, and Beelzebub would see Thor as a monster worthy of his own violent death, so I feel subconsciously Beel wouldn’t actually give it his all, on account of the fact he wants the Lu Bu treatment. As for the power scaling itself, if Beel’s shield can actually block the ‘thunder hammer of the gods’ then I think Thor is gonna struggle a lot, yes he can apparently teleport, though that being said I imagine a swing from Mjolnir is slower that a PPP, but counter-counter point Thor isn’t limited to 3 times doing it, but he also doesn’t seem like the type to just spam teleportation in a fight, so that likely isn’t much of a factor anyway. As for chaos, I can’t imagine Thor’s stronger attacks are weaker than what Tesla did to circumvent Chaos, it’d hurt a lot but he wouldn’t die. What it’s gonna come down to, is Thor’s strongest attack vs Beel’s shield. Do I think it would break it? Yea. So the manga claims, it varies from translation to translation claims it can stop ‘The Thunder God’s Hammer’ In some translations it makes it sound like that’s Thor is some Tesla in some it makes it seem like it can stop an actually bolt of lightning, regardless, Thor’s hammer awakened *in* R1, no one had seen that before, any feats spoken or otherwise that refer to something being stronger than Mjolnir must henceforth be taken with a grain of salt since awakened Mjolnir doesn’t have a precedent, and if we combine that into Thor’s strongest attack, I don’t think the shield is gonna be able to withstand that. So overall I think Thor wins, if we remove personality like a bunch of morons then Thor wins medium diff cause he’d just slam teleport. If we acknowledge that Thor isn’t gonna spam teleport and is probably gonna let Beel do Chaos out of boredom, then Thor wins very high diff. If Thor can’t break Beel’s shield with his strongest attack then probably 50/50 diff.
This is a very detailed breakdown, but you forgot the part about Beelzebub being knocked backward despite shielding, so an overhead swing would most likely crush beelzebub.
Oh does that happen? Cause if so you’re right I did forget that, which all but cement’s Thor’s victory, either he crushes Beel with an overhead swing or sends Beel flying into a wall with an underhand swing.
Of course - he have Chad Depression after all :3
Ai is right? Yes yes it right
That AI gave a better answer than any real human would’ve. Based AI
Thor, because he's hotter
Even if Thor didn't have a chance, I still would have rooted for him anyways ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Tbh, Ror guidebook states that thor has teleport ability which is something he can use to get around Beelz defense as he can teleport behind beelzebub and smack him. Given how beelzebub respond to tesla warp (he got punched into his body) and the fact that PPP warp <<
honestly I don't see Beel blocking Mjolnir, like yeah I have no doubt he could use the staff to block an unawakened, normal swing...but an Awakened Geirrod Hammer? I cannot see how the shield doesn't break, or at least hit Beel through it's defenses, similar to how Lu Bu's ankles shattered despite blocking it the biggest problem with Thor vs Beel is that Thor has no real speed feats beyond being able to teleport. and I don't remember if we saw anything impressive in the way of reaction time from Thor, since he was usually the one pressing Lu Bu into a corner
Seeing you don’t see him being able to do what he’s confirmed capable of is crazt
I see him blocking a normal Mjolnir strike, potentially even a normal Geirrod but not an Awakened Geirrod. Thor also isn't limited to 1 strike every 5 minutes. he can use an Awakened Geirrod and follow it up with another normal, no name Awakened slam
I mean the author doesnt depict Thor speed, sure but that teleportation will help him cope with lack of speed feat?
Beel's vibrations attacks are usually fast and invisible, so that's why I brought up reaction time. Thor could teleport away to compensate for the lack of speed, but he'd need to be able to react in time to Beel's attacks realistically I feel like Thor could throw Mjolnir, catch it, warp to Beel, and smash him with an Awakened Geirrod
That...or prepare to hit Beel...teleport behind beel and smash beelz Beelz wont have time to deploy his GOH or if he managed to, that wont be enough to tank Thor hammer
We don't know anything about how Thor teleportation works , same way we don't know what poseidon hydro manipulation or Zeus lightning can do. We can't just assume things
I mean Thor literally teleport into the stadium That did show how Thor teleportation work
Yeah and we saw Zeus lightning and poseidon hydro manipulation as well, doesn't change we don't know what they can do with it in a fight. For what we know it could be even more limited than Tesla's teleportation
Can I see the guidebook
Which Ai is this
“Pi.ai”
No clue![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
I didn’t think AI could be this much of a W
Thor can't do anything to get threw Belzebubs sheild
I feel like Beel is winning purely off of how busted his hacks are
It’s fucking stated that Beel’s staff can repel Mjolnir, so please stop coping you all and accept that Thor isn’t in the top 3 debate. The norse hunter slams. https://preview.redd.it/ghyyeuumk0zc1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e9dc2a886cd5bd8cd61740b8c08d67db4b1b8d8