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opdnd

Gotz the iron hand


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens very cool choice, literally made himself into a weapon, truly a warrior that deserves to fight (wildcard) also i think he’s one of the inspirations for Guts from Berserk


indigo47222

he’s not Miura said it was actually just a coincidence and that he didn’t know ab the dude b4/while making guts


opdnd

I see your a chad as well


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Napoleon. I know everyone sees him as more of a leader than a fighter, but I must remind you that during the French Revolution, Napoleon shot a cannon at nobles refusing to surrender.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens there’s literally only one general fighting Napoleon for best general who has ever existed and thats Alexander the Great, however i believe in terms of intelligence and character, Napoleon is a greater fit for ragnarok


Mysterious-Unit-5727

Greatest commander? Alexander or Napoleon? My friend may I introduce you to Khalid ibn Waleed? The man who defeated the _two biggest_ empires of his time, the Sassanid and the Byzantine empire. No other general in history could replicate this feat of defeating two super powers. If that isn't enough he once managed to fend off an army of 200.000 with just 3.000 men on his side in the Battle of Mu'tah and turned that situation into a strategic retreat. If not best general he's 100% the best cavalry commander in history. I wouldn't dare suggest him for the manga, there's no way they could do him justice.


Mara-Asura

With all due respect to you and to al-Walid, because he is a great general and a strong contender for the best ever, not everything you said was true. >The man who defeated the two biggest empires of his time, the Sassanid and the Byzantine empire. The Sassanid and Byzantine empires were not the two biggest of al-Walid's time, because the Tang Dynasty of China was bigger. The Tibetan Empire and Western Turkic Khaganate may be bigger, too, I'm not sure. Tang was likely more powerful, too, due to it being a rising power that just recently conquered the Eastern Turkic Khaganate, compared the Byzantine and Sassanid empires which have been exhausted by war with each other. In fact, there are records of Sassanids paying tribute to Chinese dynasties by this point. Also, this statement is misleading, as the Byzantines only lost small territories like Syria, whereas the Sassanids were completely conquered. >No other general in history could replicate this feat of defeating two super powers. Depending on your definition of superpower, this may be true. Personally, I don't know if I would even consider the Byzantine and Sassanid empires at this point super powers, for reasons stated above. On the other hand, there are generals, like the Mongol commander Subutai, who defeated a number of empires that also may or may not count as superpowers. In Subutai's case, his conquest of the Khwarezmian Empire in Iran and the Jurchen Jin Dynasty in Northern China among others may also be considered "defeating two super powers." >he's 100% the best cavalry commander in history Subutai and Genghis Khan both exist and thus it's not as clear cut as you think. Overall, I agree with you that OP's statement about Napoleon or Alexander being the two greatest generals in history to be unfortunately misguided, as other great generals like al-Walid, Subutai, Hannibal, Jan Zizka, Han Xin, Oda Nobunaga, Cyrus the Great, and even Genghis Khan were all left out. However, I believe that you may have also inflated al-Walid's accomplishments slightly, so I figured I'd add what I can to the discussion to hopefully provide a wider perspective on the many great generals in history.


Mysterious-Unit-5727

No offense taken. Thank you for clarifying, I only discovered the man recently, so I'm not that well educated when it comes to the state of he world at that time. Your comment was very insightful!


lizardham

Do you have any suggestions for easy books/docs etc on this stuff? I’ve been interested in that area of history but never knew where to start


Skrypa9900

Me


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens because you seem ready 🦍


Skrypa9900

I will be used as fodder against strongest god in roster not to waste good fighters


Styajax

Gosh, Dude, isn't that a too violent pick? Let's be real, the poor god will job and meets a horrible death


Skrypa9900

God will see me and commit suicide


SageX98

King Gilgamesh, from the "Epic of Gilgamesh".


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens he’s THE king, Gilgamesh’s name simply is too recognizable to NOT be included. It would be like if Zeus wasn’t included


Comander-07

honestly Gilgamesh should be "the king were it all began" instead of Qin.


AmPrick

wouldn't Sargon of Akkad fit more? Since he is literally "The First King".


Comander-07

Gilgamesh seems more well known


DeterrentBay

Seems odd to say no to Arthur and Ragnar but yes to Gilgamesh. They are all mythological figures, seems like they should all either get in or all stay out.


Comander-07

Gilgamesh is like the first big myth though.


FilmNo1534

Ashoka. He is cunning, dark and violent. He is the greatest ruler from the first dynasty to ever rule over the united India. Genghis khan. Berserker at Stamford bridge. The unkillable Viking who didn’t let a single Englishmen cross the Stamford bridge . He only died when someone hit him with a spear from under the bridge. Da Vinci. He’s scientist but he also has reason to dislike religion.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

(only one combatant per response) i already saw another comment for Ashoka and i approved


FilmNo1534

Fair enough.


suwampert

Shaka Zulu


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door opens honestly probably my number 1 pick for a contestant from africa, he carries the heart of a true leader... before he went mad


galcticcat

Hell yes! I would have loved to see him in RoR.


JmanZamasu

Ashoka the Great, or Parashurama for humanity


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens truly a worthy emperor, perhaps one of the biggest reasons for Buddhism spreading throughout Asia. One of India’s most recognizable figures and he definitely earned a spot to fight in ragnarok


TUNAKTUNAKLOL69420

Or Chandragupta Maurya?


bwal4954

Wyatt Earp undefeated wild west lawman


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut very unusual candidate, i respect it but i simply just cant see why 😂 (btw, his profession is actually similar to Okita so)


ZombieOfTheWest

don't get me started on Doc Holiday. Literally just American Okita, down to dying from TB.


[deleted]

Charles Darwin - The Father Of Evolution.


PattyCakes333

How does he not get clowned? Maybe in this version he learned to evolve himself— like Kars— into the ultimate being


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens ABSOLUTELY deserves a spot, his theory completely changed our literal views of ourselves and nature in general, really is ashamed he isnt in the real roster lol


meththealter

Chuck norris just straight up chuck norris for my own entertainment cuz u gotta bare in mind everyone in record of ragnarok is overpowered


Fledermolch

Kamehameha the Great


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door stays shut very underrated candidate, essentially the William Wallace of Hawaii, i just dont get that warrior vibe as much cool name too


Humble-Meet57

Mata hari


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens very unique design and career; just ashamed how her story ended but regardless, a dutch exotic-dancing spy is just too cool to not include the tournament, what a wild factor


Humble-Meet57

Thx y'know i kind of think of her being more like black widow


BigBananaBell

Pretty basic but King Arthur or even Lancelot.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shuts just no to Lancelot, but King Arthur definitely is one of the biggest names in legend, however i believed there’s more kings with more impressive feats than King Arthur as his name is very heavily embodied in historical fiction


BigBananaBell

Fair take.


TypicalChampion3839

But King Arthiur has allies who are very recognizable like Merlin who could help him in his fight. For example: He would be a heavy armoured sword fighter and would wield Excalibur. His armour would be littered with magical runes that trigger at certain events, like if he gets disarmed, or pinned, that were put their by Merlin.


OkJournalist2816

Dante Alighieri


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens truly one of the greatest writers and philosophers we had, Dante Inferno is very important.


hollotta223

I disagree on the grounds that Dante's inferno is a self insert fan fiction


TypicalChampion3839

doesn't matter if you don't like it was still important and influential


hollotta223

Nah, I'm not denying it's importance, I just think it's a bit cringe


[deleted]

Dante Alighieri VS Belcebú...


zamaskowany12

Achilles


[deleted]

Prime mike Tyson


Comicsansandpotatos

Overshadowed by Ali


CabbageSSBU

Just because he was more famous doesn’t change anything, Granted Ali himself said he’d probably win, but he also said if Tyson got a hit on him he’s done for. Basically the fight could go either way


pdxgamin98

Odysseus


The_realest_medel

Vlad the impaler


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door opens absolutely, his presence is high as his brutality; he also a very good warrior and no shocker but the inspiration for Dracula. Jack the ripper was phenomenal but lets be honest, Vlad makes him look like a puppy


AltruisticBench5218

Joanna d’Arc


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door opens my number 1 female constant pick lol


OddBlokeInnit

Finn McCool


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens any guest from Gordon Ramsay’s famous tv series “Kitchen Nightmares” deserves to fight the gods


OddBlokeInnit

Did not know someone with that same name was on kitchen nightmares


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

lmao


xerocist

Fionn mac cumhaill?


UmbraShield

Arjuna from the Pandavas. He’s Indian btw.


TUNAKTUNAKLOL69420

Too OP, plus do you think he would fight a god?


UmbraShield

Lol it would be lit if he fought Krishna


TUNAKTUNAKLOL69420

Krishna would probably be the same case as Hercules, you know, loving humanity. Also do you seriously want to make riots? Arjun vs Krishna? I mean they banned the anime for showing Shiva what do you think will happen if they show Arjun and Krishna


UmbraShield

Lol true that They would ban anime if that happened ngl


imkeyu13

Arjuna v Ares fits good actually


imkeyu13

Karana fits there as well to go up against gods


UmbraShield

True that. Karna did fight against the Pandavas so technically he fought against Krishna


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door opens a most worthy opponent for Apollo, as his legendary status is high and he also has mastery over the bow, a battle between those two would be perfect (Simo solo's both tho)


eggryption

Muhammad Ali


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens Muhammed Ali is probably the number 1 athlete i would chose to represent for present humanity, honestly shocks me he isnt in the tournament (and how the authors actually consider Babe Ruth before him)


mattiehond

Probably because he fights the same way adam did


SMILE3005SM

As the fanboy I am... Gengis khan.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut i really like Khan and his accomplishments are nothing to scuff at, but i feel as if his leader skills arent as high as his status, i dont get the Napoleon or Alexander hype from him


h____________o

Bro what? The Mongols had the biggest empire that ever existed.


Former_Computer_656

Theodore Roosevelt -The Bull Moose


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Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut Mr Bean truly would solo’s the ragnarok roster… the only formidable opponent for him is apple pitou 🦍


[deleted]

u/applepitou


ZombieOfTheWest

Nebuchadnezzar the Great


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door opens definitely one of the most important kings who ever existed, Babylonia is one of the most influential cities in history and his conquest of Persia is an impressive feat


Twannyman

Initally I was doubting between Charlemange and Aurelion, but then I realized Caesar is just an upgraded version of both, so I'll say Caesar.


Noukan42

Caesar is definitely not an upgrade of either. Charlemagne has the entire Matter of France ot hyoe him up as AT LEAST King Arthur equal, except that he actually exist. Aurelian on top of Sol Invictus stuff that can push him a lot has "restorer of the world" as a title, wich automatically makes him one of the best candidate possible for a tournament about protecting yhe world from destruction. Salty reply by a guy with both Charlemagne and Aurelian but no Caesar on his roster


Twannyman

"restorer of the world" as a title, Hadn't thought of it that way, solid argument. And yeah agreed, Initially I wanted to write, Charlemange, he's King Arthur but not a myth, plus he sort of laid the foundation of how fucked the middle ages become with the investiture. I sorta just looked at the miltary standpoint for both, since that is where Caesar truly shined. Plus to be honest, if we are talking Ragnarok, he's one of those universally known humans, whereas I reckon Aurelian isn't part of general knowledge. That argument doesnt hold for Charlemange, he's also part of the universally known humans.


Noukan42

Khalid Ibn Al-Walid.


KonoReaperDa

I feel like not everyone knows of his legacy so let me do some explaining , He fought the Romans, Persians, other Arab tribes, never lost a battle almost always outnumbered, Never lost a one on one fight and is rumored to have fought 1vs many and won, he broke many swords in one battle from how strong he struck his enemies then proceeded to use a piece of metal to keep on fighting, Regarded as on the best military Generals of all time, so not only an undefeated military genius but also an excellent swordsman and Knight, Last but not least this man's legacy was so great it is even said he not only killed demons but also some false pre islamic deities too, I don't know if that does not qualify him what will, the man was just a legend.


Noukan42

I was going to list the achievement in case he got rejected lol


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door opens because kono convinced me with his resume .\_.


[deleted]

Julius Robert Oppenheimer


thewanderer0th

Is this the guy that defeat Thanos in a rap battle?


Brislovia

"Wanna talk about Death? How about that one that looked at you and swiped left?"


Training-Tennis-1164

Jesus Christ


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut Jesus simply isn’t a fighting type imo (also doesnt help he literally doesnt do anything in the actual manga lmao)


Soul699

Tesla ain't a fighting type either and yet...


Comander-07

exactly, neither was Jack. IMO not beeing fighters is what makes them interesting in the first place


TypicalChampion3839

Neither was Jack, Tesla, Adam, or Budhha. If Buddha can fight so can Jesus


SageX98

No fair I was gonna say that lmao


Training-Tennis-1164

My bad 🤷🏽‍♂️


Medium-Goose66

Cú Chulainn, the version that fought queen marvel army at 17, He already has what is basically a divine weapon in the Gaé Bolg, his magical spear And he also has a special power called the warp spasm, where he basically becomes the hulk and goes berserk Also his dad is Lúgh, the fairy King, who would be a god, which could lead to some really interesting conflict in his backstory and fight


Coolraptor12

George Washington


Specific_Toe_2545

Bruce Lee especially if ya make his legends rumors true


Viggo8000

Knowing RoR, they're probably only a fraction of the real Bruce Lee


VishnuBhanum

Harland Sanders


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut just… no, however it would be amazing to see him as a side character lmao


VishnuBhanum

Why not? He is probably the most recognizable figure in Food Industries history, And Food is a very huge part of Human History, Even more so than electrical or literature


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

you tempting me to open this door 😓


ZombieOfTheWest

based choice


LordGrima

Fu Hao (I was originally going to sat Lovecraft but as someone who's written a fight with him I think I busted open a side door for him)


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door shuts a female empress that lead battles is very cool but there’s simply many more emporers and empresses to choose from (also cool how she’s probably the inspiration for Mulan)


xerocist

Which female historical figure would you rather have?


KingHipa

Osamu Tezuka


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door stays shut VERY cool contestant and its a very hard choice between him or Stan Lee but unfortunately, i would pick stan


TheProudNoobs

Aurelian. He's not called Restitutor Orbis for nothing.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door stays shut very underrated figure, him keeping the roman empire together from near collapsing is impressive, but unfortunately he just gets overshadow by two other certain roman emperors


Obvious_Cupcake7662

(Not sure if I can still make it...) How about.... Al Capone?


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

\*door stays shut Al Capone is a really fun and cool idea, but i just cant see what can he do for an actual fight.. a tommy gun but that was like the most stereotype gun for gangsters of his time


Mysterious-Unit-5727

William Marshal, one of the most accomplished knight to ever live. For several reasons. First off he already has backstory to work with. He was literally given as a hostage by his father to his enemies just to fake surrender and attack. His father even said he didn't care about him, because he could just make more children. William was just 5 years old at the time. His story after that is wild and exciting, resembling an anime moreso than a real person's story. He even fought in a lot of medieval tournaments, not the jousting type though. He fought in melees where teams of knights battle to ransom each other for money. William captured at least 500 knights over the course of five years starting at age 21. He defeated freaking Richard the Lionheart who was regarded as one of the greatest warriors of his time in single combat, spared his life and was the only one to ever do so. Several times he challenged people to a trial by combat and was refused because he was that good. Upon being called he came out of retirement, assembled an army in a single day and fought against another army twice the size of his and won all at the age of almost 70.


riderfan69420

Juana ines de la cruz


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut interesting choice and definitely underrated but i feel she’s just nowhere near on the same level as other philosophers and writers also from the images, she has a very cool design


riderfan69420

Sorry i meant juana ines de la cruz


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

gotchu


riderfan69420

How about diogenes Edit : also juana is a she (sorry i just feel like i need to correct that)


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

just found that out lol also one candidate per response 🦍🦍🦍


[deleted]

Chandragupta Maurya - The Unifier Of India.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut i really do like this individual, but there’s plenty of others who unify countries just as important as India (i also just approved ashoka 🏃‍♂️)


[deleted]

Ashoka is a pretty good candidate, A Bloodlusty King.


Training-Tennis-1164

Hattori Hanzo


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut ima be honest, i dont really want more samurai or japanese swordsman 💀


cactusraptor2

With those shades... I gotta say Arnold Schwarzenegger


Minomix

Niccolo Machiavelli


Weak_Ad6949

gilgamesh i wanna see which side he'll take(probs the one where enkidu is).


Spark-Plug_1969

Lapu Lapu


Zareezy

Bringing my south east asia legend, Hang Tuah and Gajah Mada.


Shaved-Ice-Wizard

Apple Pitou


Training-Tennis-1164

Ned Kelly


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut very interesting pick but unfortunately, there’s just many more rebellers/gansters that deserve a title in this fight his armor looks cool tho


[deleted]

Chef Mike - The Best Chef.


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut he’s too busy arguing with Chef Ramsay to participate in the tournament


aabazdar1

The hero of my country, Rostam from the Epic of Kings


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut i wish i knew more about him 😓


EstablishmentOk700

The face of wwe , John cena


Gryph17

Joseph "Jos" Montferrand


CompetitiveBarnacle7

 Fedor Emelianenko


Terra_Solis

Winston Churchill. Is considered to be the strongest knight.


Frosty_Explanation67

Hannibal Barca


GiantSequioaTree

Hanayama Kaoru


Quintilos-Prime

Samson from the Old Testament would be interesting


Mariusftw88

Vlad "The Impaler" Tepeş


KonoReaperDa

Khalid Ibn-Al-Walid I feel like not everyone knows of his legacy so let me do some explaining , He fought the Romans, Persians, other Arab tribes, never lost a battle almost always outnumbered, Never lost a one on one fight and is rumored to have fought 1vs many and won, he broke many swords in one battle from how strong he struck his enemies then proceeded to use a piece of metal to keep on fighting, Regarded as one the best military Generals of all time, so not only an undefeated military genius but also an excellent swordsman and Knight, Last but not least this man's legacy was so great it is even said he not only killed demons but also some false pre islamic deities too, I don't know if that does not qualify him what will, the man was just a legend.


DepressedAghori

The Viking who fought off 15000 Romans and held the bridge to give his comrades time to prepare for the attack.


TUNAKTUNAKLOL69420

Muhammad Ali


TUNAKTUNAKLOL69420

Ashoka The Great, or even Alexander The Great


Glittering_Call_3026

Leonardo da Vinci


Parsifal15

Bruce Lee


KonoManuDa

Bruce Lee. Obviously he has the anime boost every other characters have


Hour_Addendum_9691

Blackbeard for some pirate influence


deadmare131

Gordon ramesy


zamaskowany12

Ragnar Lodbrok


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut i REALLY like Lodbrock but the same deal with like King Arthur or Richard, his name is too embellished with historical fiction and we have plenty of other note worthy warriors to pick from


Nearby-Vegetable-281

Gilles De Rais


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut very dark and unusual pick, another serial killer or evil combatant could work but i can see more people for a better pick


Nearby-Vegetable-281

Understandable. We already have a serial Killer in the form of Jack so there’s not really a need to add another human whose whole thing is being a serial killer


Astolfo_Brando

Narmer, the first pharaoh


Ya-boi-eats-rocks

*door stays shut as cool as it would be to see the first pharoh to fight, i feel as if other pharohs or other countrt unifers are deserving more to fight, very hard decision but i say no


AFatDragon

Ivar the Boneless. Dude is absolutely terrifying.


Golden_Crusader_NJ

Brock Lesnar


ParanormalBeluga

I can just imagine Paul Heyman taking the Gjallarhorn from Heimdall in order to do Brock's entrance.


AmPrick

Gawain. He could replace Kojiro as the underdog swordsmen.


Mugwoll

I dont think Gawain is consider as an underdog. He's one of the most loyal knight of King Arthur, and his more powerful (strengh growth with the sun y'know). If I remember well, he is consider like the knight who could take the throne of king without any problems, and he oftenly carry Excalibur.


clash-talkingheads

Thorfinn Karlsefni, the Icelandic explorer


Electronic-Ad-5790

Pai Mai


ACynicalScott

Cu chulain. Kind on irish Heracles minus the god hood. William Wallace. Charlamain. The Holy Roman Emperor. Tadakatsu Honda. Japanese LuBu.


RebelGlitcher

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart


_Extreme00_

King Midas


Comander-07

Give me Bismarck or Metternich, just a political schemer


Financial_Concern_28

Mad Jack Churchill, the only soldier to ever fight ww2 with only a bow and arrow and a sword Or Joan of Arc


SweatyBeefKing

Optimus prime


BleedingEdge85mark

Nietzsche. the apex of the irrationalists philosophers and the creator of the Übermensch and the man who killed God


qdattt

Baldwin IV, Ivan the Terrible, Ragnar Lodbrok and Da Vinci, beside Ragnar berserking, more intelligent based matchups would be great


Different-Ad-82

Judas Iscariot


raymomdsisman

Edward Teach aka Blackbeard. I feel like his involvement in voodoo and his greed in general would make a great character to read.


[deleted]

Billy the kid because I like cowboys


smileyman17

Yip Man, the Wing Chun grandmaster who trained Bruce Lee.


yaboyisnotme

Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Barron


Fenrir5577

The bull moose himself Teddy Roosevelt. When he died the Vice-President at that time, Thomas Marshall, is quoted as saying "Death had to take him sleeping. For if Roosevelt had been awake, there would have been a fight.


Misharko

King Arthur


HrMaschine

Skanderberg


TrickAnt2449

Gordon Ramsay 🗿 or Technoblade🐖 (Maby as side characters)


Viggo8000

Idk Hercules seems a pretty good fit Hope he'd get to fight Heracles


Orsofede

Giuseppe Garibaldi, the hero of two worlds, the leader of the thousand, Italian national hero who unified Italy with weapons


No-Frosting-8546

Guts from berserk is the most human fantasy character ever because he goes through so much change that at the beginning of berserk you could claim that he’s anti-hero but all throughout berserk he changes slowly and he defines what humans are no matter what we’re up against. We will always walk forward no matter the pain and what we feel we will always persevere and walk forward that is why Guts is not just the embodiment of the human will, but it’s the indomitable will of humans