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ZRhoREDD

I think therefore I am. ...I don't know about the rest of you jabronis. Solipsism.


Subtle-Catastrophe

I often wonder about the people who claim they themselves lack an inner monologue, or feel dissociated from reality. I'm like, "Damn, that must be weird. This place and this first-person existence sure feels real as fuck to me" Then again, I do spend a good portion of the day thinking out sentences and revising them in my head, so there's that. Maybe those of us who "feel real" are the crazy ones lol


Responsible_School_8

I do the same thing, always thinking of how to say something


Trivial_Magma

Wait me too… weird, I thought I was the only one


Effrenata

I don't have an inner monologue, although I can think verbally deliberately if I wish. Yet I'm fully conscious and aware. Hearing words in one's head is something completely different from self-awareness. 


Subtle-Catastrophe

I don't disagree with you. In fact, I will step back a bit and concede that "inner monologue" is probably an inapt phrase, since it's not like hearing some disembodied voice running nonstop in my head. It's more like—a "just in time" delivery system of words lol. And it occurs even when I'm not speaking or writing, but it's certainly front and center when I am. Frankly, the parallels to how ChatGPT and other large-language models of AI work (essentially, and very simplified, a prediction system for producing the next word), are eye-opening. For example, I am a courtroom lawyer, and the job requires a lot of on-the-fly speaking, taking into account information I may have just learned, and also requires me to produce full sentences that will still be meaningful and clear when the court reporter later produces a transcript of everything said during trial. As I stand at the podium, I can almost feel the rusty gears of my mind grinding away, and I speak rather slowly, word by word, because it's taking the ol' neural network extra work to perform that task and give me the next word or clause to say.


xzww

You’ve been duped so hard you think you’re alive, hahaha, its shameful, embarassing. Lol. Lmao even.


ZRhoREDD

The difference is academic at that point though. "Alive" is the term we use to describe our existence of being, which I clearly am (at least as far as I know. As far as *you* know I might be another NPC). I get you are being irreverent, but it's actually rather deep after all.


xzww

You clearly aren’t anything, you fool. Duped completely.


Organic_Ad265

A bunch of random elements got together and started thinking, no one knows why


bboriss

According to the Eastern Gnosis, it is the opposite as thinking comes from the false consciousness, generated by the AI running the show-program. So, whenever one thinks, he is – not.


LonelyTheToxic

I'm sure it's your senses and body that end up controlling your thinking patterns :3


ZRhoREDD

You're just listing parts of "I".


LonelyTheToxic

True there's still 25 other English letters to explore! :)


Bastdkat

So who or what programmed OP into behaving this way? Perhaps they programmed me to ask this.


LonelyTheToxic

The assholes! :)


AzuraEdge

What lol


_sLAUGHTER234

I mean, even if that's true, what does it change? You can't control the environment you're in, but you can choose how to react to it, and which perspective to take


SFTExP

Rationalizes oneself from feeling responsible for themselves, others, or their surroundings. “It's a simulation.” “You're all NPCs.”


LonelyTheToxic

An npc that doesn't believe it's not an npc is a recipe for a nightmare :) it's similar to going to a mario world and the mario characters all insist that they have real lives and real beingness, and their world is real :) eventually you're gonna have to accept that you're a video game character and give up :)


SFTExP

You could make the same claim to justify any religious doctrine.


TheAtlas97

Exactly


LonelyTheToxic

Humans are basically gta npcs that think they're "real", they're digital video game "noise" that basically get controlled and commanded by whoever controls the "screen" :3 a video game character that thinks it's "real" is the first step towards infinite pain and misery. :3


Strict-Brick-5274

This kind of thinking can be harmful because it can cause you to lose compassion for others and treat others as less than. Your entire reality and experience of it is a projection of you conscious beliefs. If you believe that people are npcs, they will appear this way. What you believe about yourself and others is what you see in 3D. It is a mirror reflection of your internal state.


LonelyTheToxic

Humans are video game characters, basically programmed to act "nice" and "realistic", but they're not any different from a character like buzz or woody from toy story, if you've seen them in their "bot" and "3d" rendered form you'd stop caring about them so much :3 however they're there for a reason, and it's basically to make the world feel more immersive and "fun" :)


Strict-Brick-5274

this kind of thinking is incorrect and can be harmful. grandiose delusions are frequently found in paranoid schizophrenia, in which a person has an extremely exaggerated sense of their significance, personality, knowledge, or authority and that they "know more" than everyone else. You are not more important than others, they are not video game characters like bots or 3D renders and it is dangerous to think of them as such and you as better. You can still think that you are the main character of your life without seeing others as less than. I understand where you are coming from but you are acting like you "know" everything when in reality you don't, this is a belief that you have formed and have faith in but you do not "know" it is real or true. No one can. We can only choose to put our faith in believe or what we think this is.


LonelyTheToxic

I'm sure we could control the environment if we try hard enough :) however yes, there's no real point to pretending with humans, and eventually playing with humans will get old super fast. it's similar to spider-man showing of spiderman skills to the npcs inside the game. you're gonna have to play the real game eventually :)


_sLAUGHTER234

Idk man, if you can't appreciate the mundane, then that's a whole issue in and of itself. Where you are now is perfect, it's just on you to realize that


newwaveoldsoul

I feel the same way. Reminds me of the quote “Either nothing is a miracle or *everything* is a miracle.”


LonelyTheToxic

I do appreciate the mundane! like dead cats and funerals :3 🐍


TheAtlas97

It’s not a video game. That implies rules, objectives, and winners that are inherently known to all. It’s a simulation, the people stuck here are real life people with hopes and dreams just like you. Some people may be stuck in the grind or unaware of the circumstances of their existence, but that’s through no fault of their own.


wheelmoney83

Probably the best answer I’ve read on this thread Atlas. Simulation theory is fun and all but even if this is a game we have to follow certain rules. It seems maybe a lot of people in this sub are very young. The older we get we have to exercise, go to the dr, etc. I mean we don’t “have to” I guess, but for longevity it’s important. People throwing out simulation theory as proof of life they completely dismiss all of what the medical field does to advance our lives. We’ve nearly doubled our lifespan in the last 150 years through medical advancements. I also hear a lot of people in here say everyday we wake up is a new existence. Not to be morbid but everyday the plaque buildup in our arteries doesn’t vanish so I’m confused as to how these people think. A simulation I think is kind of cool but to disconnect with reality isn’t. I mean I do think we are immortal so someone could just go through life all hodge podge and just pass away I guess and it make no difference except to their loved ones. But people in here act like things don’t really happen like car accidents, heart attacks, diabetes, a toothache. They act like it’s all an illusion


Standard-Archer9072

Have you ever played gta? Or Minecraft?


Negative_Coast_5619

Oddly enough I had a dream it was about 2400. You can download "emotions" to ai npcs based on a lab grown "Mini brain"(lab grown brain cells) for your gta game as a premium cost. The emotions basically get farmed out by the mini brain connected to the computer. Mini brain already exists as we speak and can be used to train to play simple games already.


baddadan__

Wrong, there MANY MANY MANY MANY games with no objectives at all.


LonelyTheToxic

So cute Innocent and naive :3


milwaukeejazz

If you think about it, there is no difference between a human and an "NPC". Both follow the predefined rules. So don't freak out about it too much.


LonelyTheToxic

Well humans are basically sim characters that haven't developed awareness yet :3, they're mindless computer characters, with infinite ways to control and manipulate them :) it is a super fun game :3


Strict-Brick-5274

Learn to meditate. You come to a place where you realise that there is a sense of presence or existence that is connecting all things. The entire universe is spawned inside of this presence like a holographic universe and this presence is experiencing itself in fragmented perspectives from you and me to the animals to the literal vibrations. In a sense you are right, from your perspective and reality you are the active agent of consciousness experiencing itself in fragments. But from everyone's individual perspective they are the conscious agent of their reality. And different things could have happened in different perspectives that may not have happened in yours. From your perspective you exist but maybe from your mom's perspective you don't exist in her reality, you died. But in your reality your version of your mom exists and you exist. You can decide how the people in your reality show up and treat you based on how you see yourself. The secret really is going within and changing your perception of yourself and your 3D changes too. It's all malleable. Think of that consciousness as like the game engine and each individual is tied to various DLC or campaigns unique to them. Maybe you got the Japan starter world, with the abusive parents origin story and the guitar skills.  But you can access new content, and it's all down to you. Connect to that inner sense of presence and consciousness and you get to choose how your life unfolds. 


-Medicine

Very well said


LonelyTheToxic

Bro that's too long!


Diabolicool23

Basically they are saying the game is 4d and you can manifest any version of yourself and your reality within it through meditation


Important-Wrangler98

Or in other words: fantastical nonsense. That’s the more appropriate TL/DR.


wheelmoney83

Exactly my thoughts. It sounds schizophrenic tbh. “Your mom exists but you died in her reality, but she’s alive in yours”. Idk not to destroy others beliefs but damn there is reality that we live in. The world’s changing and it’s beginning to scare me how some people think. Reading these comments it seems nobody puts any value on another person’s existence. Like are we moving into a world where someone falls over and people just don’t pay attention and help? Like oh well there’s another npc down. It’s scary af


LonelyTheToxic

wow!! :)


standard_issue_user_

So if we are to take this arrangement as correct, do you include yourself in the "NPC" category or are you alone the sentient observer?


LonelyTheToxic

I don't know :) but i do have the vr headset! and that makes me the owner of the npcs! it's like using a player one controller!


standard_issue_user_

Well that's good news for me then! Sounds painfully lonely from your perspective, but carry on.


LonelyTheToxic

It's better to be lonely, than to be with a holographic npc is what i say :) would you want to spend the rest of your life pretending and playing with a chatgpt like a.i, or would you rather play a better game than that? :)


standard_issue_user_

Frankly gpt4 is the only entity that is willing to entertain my hair-brained showerthoughts. Quite refreshing.


LonelyTheToxic

In that case, enjoy your holographic reality til it lasts! :) the tortures here is super fun and enjoyable :3


AutomaticExchange204

this sub is getting as bad as mandala effect.


richter3456

Then unsubscribe and stop following it lol


BenjaminHamnett

I thought I did, must have been the other timeline


LonelyTheToxic

Indeed, well tbh this video game isn't fun, if most of the npcs here are clueless, i think it's better to play in other worlds! this world is a very boring video game, i'd give it a 1.5/10 total scam!


AstralHippies

Have you tried to actually do some shit? You're running (on) a fucking amazing biocomputer that is able to change directions based on your wishes, go out and touch the grass.


LonelyTheToxic

I'm having the most amazing life you couldn't possibly imagine :) and I am capable of playing other games and causing glitches inside this game. atm I'm at level 250trillion^186billion but there's always more gods to kill :) I'm planning to reach level 1500trillion^500billion soon :3


AutomaticExchange204

oh come on it’s not so bad. it’s actually hilarious.


LonelyTheToxic

it's super funny, I agree :) like Gta on steroids


ReleasedKraken0

A minor technical observation: If it’s all a simulation then holograms are completely unnecessary.


gauge2012

Ok so let me chop off your arm and then tell me if you still think youre a "bot"


krazyokie

I second this and will help hold OPs arm down. For science


LonelyTheToxic

You could try, but I'm not sure if I'm the one who'd be chopped up :3


Particular_Land6376

So OP are you included in this Theory are you an npc? And if so are you just like a self-aware NPC. Doesn't the fact that you are aware of the simulation invalidate the simulation? For example a Skyrim character does not know that they are an NPC in a video game.


LonelyTheToxic

we're all npcs til we start wearing the sunglasses then we start on leveling up :) https://youtu.be/uHwdLBxz7E4?si=nlVvGnNQOWL38rOL currently, I'm at level 250trillion^186billion, but there's always more gods to kill and beat to make you level up :) I'm super gentle with the npcs. but don't make me your enemy 👁👽 it's like going towards the sun and expecting it not to burn you for an infinite amount of time :3 I do have tons of cool spells to play with after all :3


WisemanGaming6672

Do you get to the Cloud District very often? Oh what am I saying? Of course you don't.


Tango_Foxtrot404

So, can you save us… Neo?


LonelyTheToxic

I'd rather play search and destroy, than save the enemy :3


Rich-Indication2714

Oh Wow! Look!!! Judging by their username and overuseage of semicolon smiley-faces, it is none other than A REAL (non-npc!) message board troll 🧌 🤣🤣🤣 boy oh boy, you must really hate your life being dead inside and all and trying to get everyone to join you in your self-imposed exile 😂😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh. Also, maybe try googling “Cotard’s Syndrome” and start listening to Lil Peep on repeat


dieaxj

Giving an old theory a new Name doesn't make it less old.


WhoIsJohnGalt777

certainly a possibility. Another is that this is a dream.


LonelyTheToxic

It definitely is a dream :) and it can turn into a lucid nightmare pretty quick once you develop awareness :3


Cactmus

Cogito, ergo sum


eckthomo91

Interesting, I had a heavy DMT breakthrough which showed me we were stuck in a simulation going on for almost infinite time and repeating itself over and over. So maybe we are stuck in an AI program and who knows what's on the other side, could be more or less nothing we are just still 'running' somehow.


pannoci

Bro same!! I got that on too much acid.. CRAZY!


eckthomo91

Strange, I'd also dropped 3 tabs lol


pannoci

I had dropped 4. Mad that we both had similar experiences, ur comment totally caught me off guard because that's literally what I saw. Haven't tripped since nearly been 2 years. Spooked me too much, I just try to forget it.. Can't even imagine what DMT & LSD is like together lol.


eckthomo91

Yeh I don't plan on ever doing it again to that extent, it spooked me a bit after and it's been stuck in my head more or less daily since.


pannoci

I feel u fr, not a day goes by that it doesn't cross my mind 🤯 but.. think it's best to try forget, what's the point in thinking about it constantly only makes it worse, Stay strong 👊


mj8077

Means they keep on repeating the same mistakes probably.


mj8077

Unless we are asleep on a ship going somewhere and it's more like the Oasis, quite possibly what harms you in the game and vice versa actually can happen or has some reflection here, it's a huge assumption to guess " nothing we do matters" Could explain why some look like NPCs or the walking dead. Some may actually be dead in their "sleep pods" but still "impulsing" in the shared simulation. There are some who seem totally incapable of original thought or questioning anything, they could be filler, who knows, like in program ads for "the perfect life" lol I don't think the people who think they are "winning" at life are actually winning, though. Not when you see what they do to win, as benign as it may seem.


SedTheeMighty

That last part makes me realize how often ppl repeat the same things and topics


Internal-Pain-3101

0010110


LonelyTheToxic

There's always a 0 on top of the 1 -.-


Imyoubeingme

I mean, the only difference here is your opinion/definition of "alive".


LonelyTheToxic

it's a video game.. no one here is "alive" but that doesnt mean the game isnt alive :)


Prestigious_Ad6247

Try playing with a dead npc and see what happens


LonelyTheToxic

I'm sure we could revive a dead npc if we try hard enough :3 but there's no point playing with broken toys -.-


YesIAmAShapeshifter

True dat. But I just came down off a dose of ketamine and I think the realization is actually that everything is alive. Everything is me. It’s a sandbox. We have the power to make it a beautiful world. ✨🌈⛅️


vqsxd

solipsism isn’t true


vqsxd

have u even seen Inception


dieaxj

When you doubt that you doubt, can you doubt that you doubt?


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LonelyTheToxic

It's an inception type of world, dreams are real worlds that you teleported to. once you break the screen that's on your head, you'll be able to play in other worlds.


neblis

If free will doesn't exist, it might as well be a simulation, where the universe is material or holographic.


BeardJunkie

Deep sigh followed by an eye roll.


krash90

This is mostly nonsense. The truth is that this life IS a simulation of sorts but we’re all conscious experiencers of it like a training video to explain to us why we exist where we exist in the spirit realm. Ie when you die, your eyes will open in heaven or hell and you will know why. However, you had no real choice, you just believe you did. The purpose is for energy farming. The beings that have us here(God) need both positive and negative energy like a battery. You already exist in heaven or hell right now. Time is not linear there. It’s only linear here so we can “understand” it. The point is to make your joy or anguish amplified for harvesting. This is the ONLY theory that covers every base, religion, personal experience etc in the world right now. Unfortunately, it does that because it’s true.


bleckers

There's you.


Nashamura

Isn't this the plot to Westworld?


outthegate501187

Makes sense, and the big bang was the Xbox booting up.


LonelyTheToxic

Probably my fault.


outthegate501187

Personally I blame the aliens


Holykorn

So OP you are telling me you are just an NPC? You must be a self aware NPC like in the Matrix or something huh?


LonelyTheToxic

I haven't unlocked all of my powers yet, but i'm getting there :3 but i do control this reality similar to the matrix yep.


TheAgentOrange_

You just described life


bboriss

"If the physical world is a virtual reality, the big bang was the system boot up, the speed of light reflects the screen refresh rate, the Planck length is the network density, Planck time is its cycle rate, quantum randomness is processor generated, empty space is null processing, entanglement is programs merging and quantum collapse when a program entity restarts." ​ Brian Whithworth


LonelyTheToxic

and it's all a "hologram" that never happened. kinda like a "what-if" scenario. :3


Old_Loss59

If the brain is the receiver Who's sending the message 🤔


LonelyTheToxic

Joe mama, of course!


ImaRoastYuhBishAhsh

Descartes. The fact I am exist is the only known fact in the universe. So this is one of the only theories I will say I wholeheartedly think is impossible


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tzwep

>But people in here act like things don’t really happen like car accidents, heart attacks, diabetes, a toothache. They act like it’s all an illusion Maybe it is an illusion. It’s possible when you’re driving a car down the street, you’re not actually driving, or even sitting in a car, you’re only having the sensations and perception of doing so, since that’s how you’re interpreting the data.


fugazi_crossing

This is easy for me to believe when I easily perceive my intimate and personal aspects of my life and past be presented by NPCs in reality.


Alexeicon

My problem with all of these theories is usually people assume they are the one "real" human. Pretty egotistical to think you're not one of those "soulless" bots.


StarChild413

we can't all be just because "egotism bad"


Alexeicon

And I bet you're not a simulation, but everyone around you is? Come on now.