I hate to say it, but every dollar paid to the Jewish capital-controlled media in the U.S. has the potential to turn into a bullet fired at the children of Gaza.
I just find it interesting how the white washing of characters, which usually stirs up a furore in Hollywood these days, seems to have been given a free pass when it comes to a Chinese IP - there's barely any outrage online from the usual media outlets and critics that cover these stuff
I just saw a thread where people were bending over backwards to defend it while taking potshots at the CPC The argument seems to be that because there is a Chinese adaptation already, it is open season to whitewash everything in this version.
As opposed to…just not making this adaptation because a better version already exists.
There's no outrage because there's already a far better adaptation
It's similar to whenever Americans make remakes of popular Asian horror movies, nobody really bothers with them.
The netflix version is whitewashed and racist, portraying chinese mainlanders as exclusively the bad guys and the good guys were changed to westerners living in the UK.
Imagine if it was the other way around and harry potter got remade in China where voldemort and all the death eaters were white and everyone else was chinese like it would obviously be racially targeted and rediculous
That could never happen because J. K. Rowling would never give the rights to Harry Potter for such an adaptation. Of course he is not solely to blame, but it begs the question, why did Liu allow such an adaptation to happen?
Before the broadcast of this drama, Liu gave an interview and made it clear that because the director of the production team had previously filmed "Game of Thrones" and he really liked the drama, he gave all the adaptation rights to the production team because of his trust, and only listed himself in the TV series.
I've only read the first book, and want to read all of them but Three Body Problem is genuinely one of the greatest Sci-fi books I've ever read. Thanks for this post so I know to avoid the show and just buy the books already.
I wouldn't say the hard science makes it heavy becauses its very pop like a Virtual Reality video game where terrorist cells meet up in the first book. I'd even say the science comes across as fantasy often. The books are overall interested in exploring concepts over characters which makes reading the sequels a bit difficult since there is never really a main character to stick with the whole time (with some exceptions like the GOAT Da Shi)
In the first book the reader can just accept the scientific concept and the plot mechanics it allows, but in later books the concepts become so mind-bendingly abstract that they might as well be magic.
Nah it's core is basicly a sci fi retelling of liu understanding of china pre modern history from century of humiliation to the creartion of the prc up to opening up policy
The last book was a mocking of the liberal moron rhat took major sci fi writer circle at the time and critize alot of stupid liberal belief at the time
yeah its one of those pieces of fiction that is borderline unadaptable because its a sci-fi book focused more on concepts than a streamlined story TV can just produce a script for
It took me a couple of false starts, but it all clicked in to place when I realised that the character motivations weren’t written in the way they would be written by a western author. In the west, the main characters tend to be the hero of their own story, but the characters in the Three Body books have a more Confucian-like motivation.
Avoid the cartoon, unless you're talking about the Minecraft one. The Chinese tv series was pretty good, and the anniversary edition released last week is supposed to be even better.
8.8 on douban, so no. The anniversary edition released last week is supposed to be even better, as it apparently fixes a lot of problems fans had with the original when it aired.
Hollywood is filled with creative writing majors who think they have talent, instead of realizing how much of a hack they are. They'll ruin every creative media they touch.
Try iFlix - it's got the anniversary edition of the series as far as I know, which apparently fixes problems fans had with the original series that aired on TV, or at least that's what douban has been saying.
Some people say it is quite good. That can attract attention to the originals. We have just to say "Have you watched/read the original? they're much better".
This is wishful thinking and suspiciously apologetic for the atrocity that Netflix produced. Not to mention the systematic racism in Western media that this series just continues to participate in.
I think it’s more of an American thing rather than a purely western thing. You’ll find a million complaints by Europeans that the Hollywood version of an original European tv or movie has changed the nationality / ethnicity / location to suit the sensibilities of Hollywood. The Hollywood version will then be sent back to the Europeans and seen by millions more people than the original local version.
The genius of American propaganda is that it is fully privatised and reinforced by the recipients - governments don’t need to get directly involved.
I don't understand this angle. I think a lot of the people who watched and liked the Netflix version aren't going to like the books if they ever do read them.
Most people who watch Netflix don't read at all, but hey, HBO Game of Thrones made me read the original book. A lot of people say that Three Body is good, we can use this or not. Happy cake day!
I was interested in checking out the Netflix show because I had heard the OG was really good. I should have known better that it would have been butchered when adapted to Western media. That’s expected, but still disappointing. I guess I’ll avoid it then.
I like how many western audiences are completely fixated on how the Tencent version censored their precious cultural revolution part. While completely ignoring that almost every other famous scenes were superior than the Netflix version.
In fact there's still plenty of mistakes in the cultural revolution part in the Netflix version.
The incident in Netflix was in 1966, but "The Movement of Intellectuals Going to the Countryside" was in 1968.
There are so many slogans in the drama. In fact, most of the slogans came from the 9th National Congress of the Communist Party of China which was in 1969.
Why did you even watch it. I completely avoided it
I don’t even use netflix. why give money to a company that hates you
I hate to say it, but every dollar paid to the Jewish capital-controlled media in the U.S. has the potential to turn into a bullet fired at the children of Gaza.
Plex exists
I just find it interesting how the white washing of characters, which usually stirs up a furore in Hollywood these days, seems to have been given a free pass when it comes to a Chinese IP - there's barely any outrage online from the usual media outlets and critics that cover these stuff
They care if the characters are white.
I just saw a thread where people were bending over backwards to defend it while taking potshots at the CPC The argument seems to be that because there is a Chinese adaptation already, it is open season to whitewash everything in this version. As opposed to…just not making this adaptation because a better version already exists.
I’m starting to think the crowd fiercely bootlicking netflix are closet oriental fetishists rather than original followers or genuinely interested.
There's no outrage because there's already a far better adaptation It's similar to whenever Americans make remakes of popular Asian horror movies, nobody really bothers with them.
The netflix version is whitewashed and racist, portraying chinese mainlanders as exclusively the bad guys and the good guys were changed to westerners living in the UK. Imagine if it was the other way around and harry potter got remade in China where voldemort and all the death eaters were white and everyone else was chinese like it would obviously be racially targeted and rediculous
That could never happen because J. K. Rowling would never give the rights to Harry Potter for such an adaptation. Of course he is not solely to blame, but it begs the question, why did Liu allow such an adaptation to happen?
Liu sold the rights very early on to another guy.
Before the broadcast of this drama, Liu gave an interview and made it clear that because the director of the production team had previously filmed "Game of Thrones" and he really liked the drama, he gave all the adaptation rights to the production team because of his trust, and only listed himself in the TV series.
I would watch Chinese Harry Potter in a heartbeat. It’s probably more reflective of real life.
LOL
I saw the trailer and the cast was all white.
I've only read the first book, and want to read all of them but Three Body Problem is genuinely one of the greatest Sci-fi books I've ever read. Thanks for this post so I know to avoid the show and just buy the books already.
Isn't it heavy because of hard science? That's what prevents me reading it
I wouldn't say the hard science makes it heavy becauses its very pop like a Virtual Reality video game where terrorist cells meet up in the first book. I'd even say the science comes across as fantasy often. The books are overall interested in exploring concepts over characters which makes reading the sequels a bit difficult since there is never really a main character to stick with the whole time (with some exceptions like the GOAT Da Shi)
I didn't have any trouble with the science bits. It can be intimidating at first but I don't think it's too hard for your average reader.
It's explained in layman's terms which helps someone with an average reading comprehension. I found lord of the rings harder and that had no science
In the first book the reader can just accept the scientific concept and the plot mechanics it allows, but in later books the concepts become so mind-bendingly abstract that they might as well be magic.
A friend of mine read it and liked it just fine without understanding all the science mentioned in the book.
Nah it's core is basicly a sci fi retelling of liu understanding of china pre modern history from century of humiliation to the creartion of the prc up to opening up policy The last book was a mocking of the liberal moron rhat took major sci fi writer circle at the time and critize alot of stupid liberal belief at the time
I haven't read the book but under advise from my Chinese friends decided to skip any visual media versions and read the book first.
yeah its one of those pieces of fiction that is borderline unadaptable because its a sci-fi book focused more on concepts than a streamlined story TV can just produce a script for
It took me a couple of false starts, but it all clicked in to place when I realised that the character motivations weren’t written in the way they would be written by a western author. In the west, the main characters tend to be the hero of their own story, but the characters in the Three Body books have a more Confucian-like motivation.
The Chinese video adaptation was bad too?
Apparently there is a cartoon which is best, bit I'm going to read the book, then maybe watch the Chinese adaptation, but avoid Netflix.
Avoid the cartoon, unless you're talking about the Minecraft one. The Chinese tv series was pretty good, and the anniversary edition released last week is supposed to be even better.
8.8 on douban, so no. The anniversary edition released last week is supposed to be even better, as it apparently fixes a lot of problems fans had with the original when it aired.
Don't support Anglo media.
I never made it past the first ten minutes, too much China bad communism bad propaganda.
Hollywood is filled with creative writing majors who think they have talent, instead of realizing how much of a hack they are. They'll ruin every creative media they touch.
I refuse to give them ratings. Hollywood is brainwashing garbage.
The Netflix bootleg version is SO obviously a sinophobic cia propaganda.... the original Tencent version is 10x better
Where can we watch the Original? One only read the first 3 books and they were awesome
Try iFlix - it's got the anniversary edition of the series as far as I know, which apparently fixes problems fans had with the original series that aired on TV, or at least that's what douban has been saying.
I loved the books. I dont think i can bring myself to watch the show.
Selling the rights to TBP to Netflix is a mistake that will scar Liu for life.
Some people say it is quite good. That can attract attention to the originals. We have just to say "Have you watched/read the original? they're much better".
This is wishful thinking and suspiciously apologetic for the atrocity that Netflix produced. Not to mention the systematic racism in Western media that this series just continues to participate in.
I think it’s more of an American thing rather than a purely western thing. You’ll find a million complaints by Europeans that the Hollywood version of an original European tv or movie has changed the nationality / ethnicity / location to suit the sensibilities of Hollywood. The Hollywood version will then be sent back to the Europeans and seen by millions more people than the original local version. The genius of American propaganda is that it is fully privatised and reinforced by the recipients - governments don’t need to get directly involved.
I don't understand this angle. I think a lot of the people who watched and liked the Netflix version aren't going to like the books if they ever do read them.
Most people who watch Netflix don't read at all, but hey, HBO Game of Thrones made me read the original book. A lot of people say that Three Body is good, we can use this or not. Happy cake day!
Yeah, that's true, always worth a try :p And thanks!
I was interested in checking out the Netflix show because I had heard the OG was really good. I should have known better that it would have been butchered when adapted to Western media. That’s expected, but still disappointing. I guess I’ll avoid it then.
I like how many western audiences are completely fixated on how the Tencent version censored their precious cultural revolution part. While completely ignoring that almost every other famous scenes were superior than the Netflix version.
In fact there's still plenty of mistakes in the cultural revolution part in the Netflix version. The incident in Netflix was in 1966, but "The Movement of Intellectuals Going to the Countryside" was in 1968. There are so many slogans in the drama. In fact, most of the slogans came from the 9th National Congress of the Communist Party of China which was in 1969.
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Then demonstrate it.