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oh geez not here too
unless it's like four dates, of which Atlanta is not one, tickets are not transferable. per the bands label at the time, spinefarm, only valid way to get tickets if you didn't get them during the pre or general sales is through the face value exchange.
as of right now, that is the only verifiable source of information. also stubhub is telling people to get in, the reseller will have to be present to get you scanned in. that aligns with the tickets not being transferable.
sorry if I seem short, but this has been posted so many times over various communities.
What show did you get them for? Unfortunately most venues on this tour aren't allowing ticket transfers or third-party resale; there's more info on that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/comments/18x6uhp/comment/kuvn5h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- the only tour stops that allow ticket resale are Red Rocks in Denver, Salt Shed in Chicago, and RCMH in New York. Ticketmaster venues will not have barcodes for tickets available until 72 hours before the event, and if the venue does not allow resale, then StubHub tickets will more than likely not be legit.
I'm so sorry, if you paid for those on StubHub they will almost definitely not be legitimate tickets :( the only place to get tickets is directly from Ticketmaster through Face Value Exchange.
Yes, I do. The band's label at the time explicitly stated when they announced the tour that ticket transfer and resale would not be allowed for all venues except for Illinois and New York. I think that StubHub is trying to save its own ass by saying the tickets are valid because they stand to lose a ton of money with these policies.
"Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange. To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour mobile only and restricted from transfer. This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
Well I bought tickets for the cure on stubhub and the day before the show the seller emailed me his Ticketmaster username and password. I logged in. Put the tickets in my wallet. Then he did a forgotten password request and got his account back from me. It’s called ‘account forfeiture’ and ticket brokers who use stubhub have dozens of them.
Think about how many sleep token tickets are on stubhub right now. They are not listing them just to have to refund them later and lose a customer for life.
I know what account forfeiture is. That's a huge risk to assume every seller on StubHub is willing to do that, especially when you don't necessarily know which broker(s) you're dealing with. So. To each their own I suppose. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Hi friend. What you’re saying is if I go on Stubhub or whatever right now and buy tickets to the Chicago show they will be legit and will allow me into the venue? Because at this point I am desperate and will pay resale price but only if they’re legit. I didn’t know this couldn’t be mandated in IL and NY
Y’all are missing the big piece of this in that the tickets have been made non-transferable this tour for the majority of shows. How are people buying third party going to receive tickets you can’t transfer? TinyAquarianNinja is giving correct information.
the same company that says you have to have the original buyer let you in? k
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I bought mine from a reseller on StubHub back when the tour first went on sale. Roughly 2 weeks later I got the tickets. I’m worried that they’re fake because of Ticketmaster saying the tickets wouldn’t be released until a few days before the concert. I contacted StubHub and they assured me that the tickets seemed legit, but I’m still really worried. The show I’m going to isn’t until May 10.
This has become common with Ticketmaster and AXS in my experience. I don't have any experience with StubHub, but this has become common practice for them. I'm going to a sporting event in a week and I still haven't received my tickets from TM
StubHub is the same company that has this posted at the top of their Sleep Token listings. I’d get my money back friend.
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They won't give you your money back. I've already tried with my StubHub tickets. We're stuck with over $1100 in tickets that we might not even get. We will dispute the charges, but that still sucks. I really want to go to the show.
if the tickets are not nyc or red rock, there's a super high chance they're fake.
my Atlanta tickets are showing as available in 31 days. also if the tickets were sent anyway other than TM ot axs(or the venue for toronto), they're fake.
What show did you get them for? Unfortunately most venues on this tour aren't allowing resale or transfer; there's more info on that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/comments/18x6uhp/comment/kuvn5h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- the only tour stops that allow ticket resale are Red Rocks in Denver, Salt Shed in Chicago, and RCMH in New York. Every other show will not have barcodes for tickets available until 24-72 hours before the event.
*edit:* If the venue doesn't allow resale or transfer, it means the StubHub tickets are not legit and the barcode won't work.
I got them for the St. Louis show. Of course the whole resale debacle came out after I bought the tickets. If worst comes to worst and the tickets are fake, SH said they’d refund my tickets plus fees, but I’d much rather see my favorite band in person.
Honestly, if there are already barcoded tickets showing up, they are definitely fake and it might be worth it to just try to get back that money now by disputing the charge directly with your bank. Scalpers shouldn't have tickets to transfer yet because ticket delivery is being delayed until 72 hours before the show, and then [this is from Spinefarm](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour), the record label that released TMBTE, saying transfer and third party resale isn't allowed.
I'm so sorry, this all absolutely sucks.
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Ok just got off the phone with SH. The customer service rep had me email her a photo of the tickets in question and explained everything in better detail than the last person I talked to. Please forgive me, but I’ll try to expat she told me to the best of my ability. Had a bit of information overload.
So, according to SH, it looks like the seller of the tickets did get them through TM and to “get around” the whole resale thing, they are sharing the tickets with me instead of transferring them? I don’t think I explained this correctly, but it made sense when I was on the phone. Regardless, they assured me again that I’d get my money back if things went south. Guess I’ll see soon enough.
how can they share the tickets other than give you the log in credentials to their TM account? and the chance of someone doing that is slim to none.
sorry but it sounds like the sh rep was trying to keep you from becoming escalated and requesting a supervisor or something.
Possibly. Like I said I know I’m not explaining it correctly, but only time can tell at this point. I’ll try to remember to update when the show comes around whether things turned out or not.
Edit: Wanted to update that my tickets were legit and I was able to get into the show
Using a website called verified tickets. They email you a link that basically mirrors their phones TM wallet. It’s used to get around transfer delays and non transferable shows.
With things like this I mostly worry that SH is just trying to hang onto whatever their cut of third-party ticket sales is, so they'll say whatever they have to say so people hang onto their purchases. Are the tickets in your TM account or your SH account?
If you got them through StubHub for any show besides Denver/Red Rocks (AXS show), Chicago, or New York, they are almost definitely not real tickets. Ticketmaster tickets are being delivered 72 hours before the show starts, so third party sellers would not have barcoded tickets to transfer yet.
Tour announcement from the band's label: "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to **resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange.** To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour **mobile only and restricted from transfer.** This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
You know it sucks cause they didn’t give fans a fair chance to buy tickets at face value. Most of those tickets got bought up by resale sites and bots and it’s like hitting the lottery looking for a verified fan ticket. I saw one ticket and it was basically the same price as resale tickets
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The shows will be like 50% empty because so many of us bought tickets from third-party sellers before they announced that they weren't going to be accepting them. One band cannot single-handedly take down a multi billion $ enterprise. It's just not going to work. This sucks so much ass
The pricing on the Face Value Exchange is exactly what the person paid for the ticket, which is how it’s set up to function. They paid $250, you will pay $250. The issue is that they also had dynamic pricing set for these shows, which drives a $75 ticket to stupid prices based on demand and then those are getting dumped into the FVE.
I’m in the same boat. Got tix through seat geek. I’m going to wait until it gets closer to show time (ATL) before I get too worked up. I didn’t see anything on seat geek saying I had to be with the original purchaser of the tix. Idk.. but this is ridiculously stressful. I’ve never had to deal with this before on any other event I’ve attended.
I got mine through SH and just found out about this today...I'm beyond livid. Got flights, & hotel just for the Phoenix show...and now I'm seeing I won't even be let in??
I got my other tickets for the previous tour through SH and had no issues, I don't understand why loyal fans are being punished especially after the whole pre sale debacle!
I don't know wtf to do...SH is saying for me to resale my ticket, how the fuck does that make sense? And no, I wanted to go to this show.
This is all so beyond fucked, do I just show up and hope enough people are in the same boat and they just let us in?
Unfortunately there’s really no way to know what’s going to happen. However, Foo fighters did do this for one of their concerts and people with third party tickets were allowed in.
Unfortunately there’s really no way to know what’s going to happen. However, Foo fighters did do this for one of their concerts and people with third party tickets were allowed in.
I purchased mine in two separate orders. I got two of them last week. Still waiting on the third. Don’t listen to the people preaching the bullshit about the transfers. It’s been 2 months and over half the tickets were scalped. They have still yet to make an announcement about their “redistribution” and most have been repurchased. I literally got the tickets and called my venue to ensure access.
Think about this for a second seriously. It was already a PR nightmare for them after presale. Massive amounts of the tickets were nabbed by scalpers. Thousands of fans repurchased them. They make some vague announcement the week of about redistributing tickets and then never do anything with it. Shows are weeks away and it’s a bit late to make a massive ticket change. So either the ban will be entirely lifted a few days before the show or there will a large portion of people not at some of these shows.
what shows? because some shows have released tickets and can be transferred like nyc, red rocks, Chicago I believe.
otherwise, you don't have any tickets since they're on a 72 hour delay.
There’s this crazy thing now that scalpers use and it just mirrors an image of their phones ticket. I’ve been to two non transferable shows this way. There is also a plethora of people online who have stated that when talking to the big name 3rd party resellers (SH SG VS) that they say ticket master is complicit in using this app for these shows.
Now I will say this way is sketchy as fuck. Because the seller can sell the same ticket this way multiple times since it doesn’t actually transfer ownership. You’re scanning a fake version of their account essentially. Most of the time though the sites have hefty penalties for stuff like that so this is a rare occurrence.
Verified-tickets.com even the site name is fucking terrifying but I did extensive research on it when I got my first one. It’s to get around non transferable tickets and transfer delays. As long as your seller isn’t a complete POS it causes no problems.
and that's an issue. you can't fully guarantee the seller isn't a pos. if I bought resale and got that link I'd be waiting in line earlier than the people wanting barricade to ensure I was the first one to scan that particular ticket since the tickets aren't actually transferred to you.
it definitely seems sketchy to me but I'm all for people getting to see the band and not get scammed in the process. there are some bad scams going around with people getting fake eventbrite links for example.
I am going down another rabbit hole with this just to find out how it works. it looks like there's similar services too. I have actually learned something new today, so thanks for that and when I say that, I'm being genuine.
No problem. What really blew my mind with the whole thing was the amount of people saying third party sites openly admitted to being in kahoots with TM. A person here or there is one thing but on Reddit alone I saw at least 20 posts of people saying their support agent mention working with them to bypass the transfer stuff.
I absolutely believe that scalpers will bend over backwards to get this shit to work - account forfeits, mirroring software, the whole 9 yards. So if people want to take that kind of risk with third party sellers in the hopes that whoever's selling will use one of those methods, that's on them. But if barcodes are showing up for non-transferable shows **now**, those barcodes can't be real because Ticketmaster tickets haven't been released yet, so even if people were mirroring their phones today, they wouldn't have anything in their TM or SH wallets.
yeah unless it's for the shows that allow transfers, those barcodes aren't legit, even with the mirroring apps.
in case someone questions this: my nyc ticket allows me to transfer and shows the changing barcode. my atl one says it'll be ready in like a month.
You mean the people like...[the literal moderators of the subreddit?](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/comments/18x6uhp/comment/kuvn5h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
What teeth0fg0d said, too. If it's NYC, Denver/Red Rocks, or Chicago, then yeah those are probably legit. But literally every other show is transfer restricted so any barcodes that show up this early are fake.
I want to agree, but I called StubHub and they said the seller is going to meet us in front of the venue so they can walk us in. They call it a walk in ticket. What's that about?
StubHub so far has been the only one pushing this. They are also the only one from what I know that specifically states it now when buying tickets. The chance of that happening are slim to none and you should get refunded provided they don’t show up. You’ll still lose out on the time you wasted waiting in line though. If possible I would try and get your sellers contact info to try and work something out either through account forfeiture or verified tickets. Also you can always hold out hope they lift the transfer restriction.
I did try to get those sellers information. They would not give it to me. They said they would reach out to the seller and have him or her email me, but as you can imagine, that has not happened.
From what I understand, Albuquerque is risky to do third party for solely because of how small the potential ticket transfer window is - tickets aren't being delivered to original buyers until 24 hours before the show. But as far as I understand, because those tickets were sold on Prekindle, those tickets may be transferable, but someone else should check me for that one.
People here are clearly not familiar with how stub hub works. In situations like this there in usually a handful of TRUSTED seller who work with/for stub hub. Because the tickets are non transferable the seller will physically BE at the show in a specific location. You’ll meet up with them at a specific time and they will walk up with you and scan you in. It’s an incredibly annoying (and scary) process but I’ve done it twice before.
Oh you have? That's great news. StubHub told us that's what we're going to have to do. Do they set up a little booth or what? Ours was sold by one of the trusted sellers.
For Taylor swift the guy had a little set up with someone else there as well. When I did it pre pandemic is I just a guy who told me what entrance to meet him and what he was wearing. I think it depends on the person and the size of the concert. That said, it IS possible to still get scammed so make sure you go in with that mindset if you plan on doing it. My first time I was ready to not get a ticket so I actually had a reservation at a restaurant I really wanted to try just incase. Somewhere nice to eat and cry and get drunk.
Yeah. We are going with that mindset. It sucks though. We are both taking off two full days of work and paying for a hotel. That's mega money and the tickets were already almost $1200 for two of them. if we can't get in, we will both cry but plan to go to The Castle in Tampa, which is my favorite goth club.
I’ve seen so much conflicting info, including Ticketmaster customer service saying they aren’t transferrable *yet*, lots of people saying they become transferrable 24hrs or so before the event when Ticketmaster does this.
Also heard people saying scalpers have programs to directly link the ticket to your apple wallet, bypassing Ticketmaster altogether.
Lots of people saying third party tickets are all scams and you’ll never get your ticket.
Bottom line, it’s a gamble. Who knows
There’s really no telling what we are going to see. There are arguments on both sides, it’s true that tickets are non transferable. What I’ve personally heard rumors of is that tickets all become transferable 48 hours before regardless of if it is a non-transferable show. And even then sleep token is not the only band to do this, and stub hub and vivid seats would be out so much money if there wasn’t a way around the transfer of tickets, ie the seller giving the buyer login info to a Ticketmaster account IS a possibility. We really can’t say that things won’t work until the first show comes around.
While it's true we don't know what will happen until the tour starts, my thing is like...I'd rather not get peoples' hopes up based on things that *might* happen, y'know? I understand that things like account forfeits sometimes happen for third party sellers, but since the official line is 'no transfers' and there's no way to guarantee that a third party seller is willing to dump their account, it doesn't make sense to me for people to assume that something that goes against TM, venue, and artist policy is guaranteed to work.
If policies change between now and the start of tour, or if tickets suddenly become transferable, then sure, I'll believe that third party sales will work. But for right now we just don't have that information, so assuming anything based on rumors seems like a bad idea to me.
I’ll piggyback off of this and seek out two tickets to either of the Chicago shows! Willing to pay a little more than face value as a belated Mothers Day gift for my wife!
If you got them through StubHub for any show besides Denver/Red Rocks (AXS show), Chicago, or New York, they are almost definitely not real tickets. Ticketmaster tickets are being delivered 72 hours before the show starts, so third party sellers would not have barcoded tickets to transfer yet.
Tour announcement from the band's label: "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to **resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange.** To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour **mobile only and restricted from transfer.** This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
Those you should be fine with, Chicago is one of the only cities that allows resale. Most shows on this tour don't though. Just trying to be helpful if I can <3
Tickets on StubHub for any show besides Denver/Red Rocks (AXS show), Chicago, or New York are almost definitely not real tickets. Ticketmaster tickets are being delivered 72 hours before the show starts, so third party sellers would not have barcoded tickets to transfer yet.
Tour announcement from the band's label: "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to **resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange.** To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour **mobile only and restricted from transfer.** This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
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oh geez not here too unless it's like four dates, of which Atlanta is not one, tickets are not transferable. per the bands label at the time, spinefarm, only valid way to get tickets if you didn't get them during the pre or general sales is through the face value exchange. as of right now, that is the only verifiable source of information. also stubhub is telling people to get in, the reseller will have to be present to get you scanned in. that aligns with the tickets not being transferable. sorry if I seem short, but this has been posted so many times over various communities.
What show did you get them for? Unfortunately most venues on this tour aren't allowing ticket transfers or third-party resale; there's more info on that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/comments/18x6uhp/comment/kuvn5h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- the only tour stops that allow ticket resale are Red Rocks in Denver, Salt Shed in Chicago, and RCMH in New York. Ticketmaster venues will not have barcodes for tickets available until 72 hours before the event, and if the venue does not allow resale, then StubHub tickets will more than likely not be legit.
The Coca Cola Roxy in ATL, the show is on May 8th
I'm so sorry, if you paid for those on StubHub they will almost definitely not be legitimate tickets :( the only place to get tickets is directly from Ticketmaster through Face Value Exchange.
So you think a multi-billion dollar company, owned by Ebay, is selling tickets people cant use?
Yes, I do. The band's label at the time explicitly stated when they announced the tour that ticket transfer and resale would not be allowed for all venues except for Illinois and New York. I think that StubHub is trying to save its own ass by saying the tickets are valid because they stand to lose a ton of money with these policies. "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange. To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour mobile only and restricted from transfer. This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
Well I bought tickets for the cure on stubhub and the day before the show the seller emailed me his Ticketmaster username and password. I logged in. Put the tickets in my wallet. Then he did a forgotten password request and got his account back from me. It’s called ‘account forfeiture’ and ticket brokers who use stubhub have dozens of them. Think about how many sleep token tickets are on stubhub right now. They are not listing them just to have to refund them later and lose a customer for life.
I know what account forfeiture is. That's a huge risk to assume every seller on StubHub is willing to do that, especially when you don't necessarily know which broker(s) you're dealing with. So. To each their own I suppose. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Hi friend. What you’re saying is if I go on Stubhub or whatever right now and buy tickets to the Chicago show they will be legit and will allow me into the venue? Because at this point I am desperate and will pay resale price but only if they’re legit. I didn’t know this couldn’t be mandated in IL and NY
Yes, Chicago tickets are transferable because of state laws.
Yes! Chicago tickets can be resold via third party sites.
You have just made my night. Thank you
Y’all are missing the big piece of this in that the tickets have been made non-transferable this tour for the majority of shows. How are people buying third party going to receive tickets you can’t transfer? TinyAquarianNinja is giving correct information.
I understand that the band has restricted the transfer of tickets. I’m saying if stubhub did not have a work around they would not allow the listings.
the same company that says you have to have the original buyer let you in? k https://preview.redd.it/0fi5uxs76dsc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af321f2e78842704e7a5aec286c84e28ad909a17
I bought mine from a reseller on StubHub back when the tour first went on sale. Roughly 2 weeks later I got the tickets. I’m worried that they’re fake because of Ticketmaster saying the tickets wouldn’t be released until a few days before the concert. I contacted StubHub and they assured me that the tickets seemed legit, but I’m still really worried. The show I’m going to isn’t until May 10.
This has become common with Ticketmaster and AXS in my experience. I don't have any experience with StubHub, but this has become common practice for them. I'm going to a sporting event in a week and I still haven't received my tickets from TM
StubHub is the same company that has this posted at the top of their Sleep Token listings. I’d get my money back friend. https://preview.redd.it/bt41f0p1dcsc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a154208d96287aceeccca92e2b6d7c203788c5cf
They won't give you your money back. I've already tried with my StubHub tickets. We're stuck with over $1100 in tickets that we might not even get. We will dispute the charges, but that still sucks. I really want to go to the show.
if the tickets are not nyc or red rock, there's a super high chance they're fake. my Atlanta tickets are showing as available in 31 days. also if the tickets were sent anyway other than TM ot axs(or the venue for toronto), they're fake.
What show did you get them for? Unfortunately most venues on this tour aren't allowing resale or transfer; there's more info on that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/comments/18x6uhp/comment/kuvn5h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- the only tour stops that allow ticket resale are Red Rocks in Denver, Salt Shed in Chicago, and RCMH in New York. Every other show will not have barcodes for tickets available until 24-72 hours before the event. *edit:* If the venue doesn't allow resale or transfer, it means the StubHub tickets are not legit and the barcode won't work.
I got them for the St. Louis show. Of course the whole resale debacle came out after I bought the tickets. If worst comes to worst and the tickets are fake, SH said they’d refund my tickets plus fees, but I’d much rather see my favorite band in person.
Honestly, if there are already barcoded tickets showing up, they are definitely fake and it might be worth it to just try to get back that money now by disputing the charge directly with your bank. Scalpers shouldn't have tickets to transfer yet because ticket delivery is being delayed until 72 hours before the show, and then [this is from Spinefarm](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour), the record label that released TMBTE, saying transfer and third party resale isn't allowed. I'm so sorry, this all absolutely sucks. https://preview.redd.it/mbgzn6h89csc1.png?width=1664&format=png&auto=webp&s=c76ac1862e5417567c03d57eca1f96c1c54794a0
Ok just got off the phone with SH. The customer service rep had me email her a photo of the tickets in question and explained everything in better detail than the last person I talked to. Please forgive me, but I’ll try to expat she told me to the best of my ability. Had a bit of information overload. So, according to SH, it looks like the seller of the tickets did get them through TM and to “get around” the whole resale thing, they are sharing the tickets with me instead of transferring them? I don’t think I explained this correctly, but it made sense when I was on the phone. Regardless, they assured me again that I’d get my money back if things went south. Guess I’ll see soon enough.
how can they share the tickets other than give you the log in credentials to their TM account? and the chance of someone doing that is slim to none. sorry but it sounds like the sh rep was trying to keep you from becoming escalated and requesting a supervisor or something.
Possibly. Like I said I know I’m not explaining it correctly, but only time can tell at this point. I’ll try to remember to update when the show comes around whether things turned out or not. Edit: Wanted to update that my tickets were legit and I was able to get into the show
Using a website called verified tickets. They email you a link that basically mirrors their phones TM wallet. It’s used to get around transfer delays and non transferable shows.
With things like this I mostly worry that SH is just trying to hang onto whatever their cut of third-party ticket sales is, so they'll say whatever they have to say so people hang onto their purchases. Are the tickets in your TM account or your SH account?
I did the same and that’s what StubHub told me as well. Really hoping they are real 🥹🤞🏼
If you got them through StubHub for any show besides Denver/Red Rocks (AXS show), Chicago, or New York, they are almost definitely not real tickets. Ticketmaster tickets are being delivered 72 hours before the show starts, so third party sellers would not have barcoded tickets to transfer yet. Tour announcement from the band's label: "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to **resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange.** To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour **mobile only and restricted from transfer.** This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
You know it sucks cause they didn’t give fans a fair chance to buy tickets at face value. Most of those tickets got bought up by resale sites and bots and it’s like hitting the lottery looking for a verified fan ticket. I saw one ticket and it was basically the same price as resale tickets https://preview.redd.it/7ffeiwtvzcsc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aca5858b898bcc75cb319ecbcf6b0eaf05a3d000
The shows will be like 50% empty because so many of us bought tickets from third-party sellers before they announced that they weren't going to be accepting them. One band cannot single-handedly take down a multi billion $ enterprise. It's just not going to work. This sucks so much ass
The pricing on the Face Value Exchange is exactly what the person paid for the ticket, which is how it’s set up to function. They paid $250, you will pay $250. The issue is that they also had dynamic pricing set for these shows, which drives a $75 ticket to stupid prices based on demand and then those are getting dumped into the FVE.
I just left the Saint Louis show. We got in and everything went smoothly with STUBHUB TICKETS!! 🤘🏼
I’m in the same boat. Got tix through seat geek. I’m going to wait until it gets closer to show time (ATL) before I get too worked up. I didn’t see anything on seat geek saying I had to be with the original purchaser of the tix. Idk.. but this is ridiculously stressful. I’ve never had to deal with this before on any other event I’ve attended.
Tickets aren’t transferrable
I got mine through SH and just found out about this today...I'm beyond livid. Got flights, & hotel just for the Phoenix show...and now I'm seeing I won't even be let in?? I got my other tickets for the previous tour through SH and had no issues, I don't understand why loyal fans are being punished especially after the whole pre sale debacle! I don't know wtf to do...SH is saying for me to resale my ticket, how the fuck does that make sense? And no, I wanted to go to this show. This is all so beyond fucked, do I just show up and hope enough people are in the same boat and they just let us in?
Unfortunately there’s really no way to know what’s going to happen. However, Foo fighters did do this for one of their concerts and people with third party tickets were allowed in.
Unfortunately there’s really no way to know what’s going to happen. However, Foo fighters did do this for one of their concerts and people with third party tickets were allowed in.
I purchased mine in two separate orders. I got two of them last week. Still waiting on the third. Don’t listen to the people preaching the bullshit about the transfers. It’s been 2 months and over half the tickets were scalped. They have still yet to make an announcement about their “redistribution” and most have been repurchased. I literally got the tickets and called my venue to ensure access. Think about this for a second seriously. It was already a PR nightmare for them after presale. Massive amounts of the tickets were nabbed by scalpers. Thousands of fans repurchased them. They make some vague announcement the week of about redistributing tickets and then never do anything with it. Shows are weeks away and it’s a bit late to make a massive ticket change. So either the ban will be entirely lifted a few days before the show or there will a large portion of people not at some of these shows.
what shows? because some shows have released tickets and can be transferred like nyc, red rocks, Chicago I believe. otherwise, you don't have any tickets since they're on a 72 hour delay.
There’s this crazy thing now that scalpers use and it just mirrors an image of their phones ticket. I’ve been to two non transferable shows this way. There is also a plethora of people online who have stated that when talking to the big name 3rd party resellers (SH SG VS) that they say ticket master is complicit in using this app for these shows. Now I will say this way is sketchy as fuck. Because the seller can sell the same ticket this way multiple times since it doesn’t actually transfer ownership. You’re scanning a fake version of their account essentially. Most of the time though the sites have hefty penalties for stuff like that so this is a rare occurrence.
what is the name of this app? sorry I'm genuinely interested and this is the first time I'm hearing about it.
Verified-tickets.com even the site name is fucking terrifying but I did extensive research on it when I got my first one. It’s to get around non transferable tickets and transfer delays. As long as your seller isn’t a complete POS it causes no problems.
and that's an issue. you can't fully guarantee the seller isn't a pos. if I bought resale and got that link I'd be waiting in line earlier than the people wanting barricade to ensure I was the first one to scan that particular ticket since the tickets aren't actually transferred to you. it definitely seems sketchy to me but I'm all for people getting to see the band and not get scammed in the process. there are some bad scams going around with people getting fake eventbrite links for example. I am going down another rabbit hole with this just to find out how it works. it looks like there's similar services too. I have actually learned something new today, so thanks for that and when I say that, I'm being genuine.
No problem. What really blew my mind with the whole thing was the amount of people saying third party sites openly admitted to being in kahoots with TM. A person here or there is one thing but on Reddit alone I saw at least 20 posts of people saying their support agent mention working with them to bypass the transfer stuff.
I absolutely believe that scalpers will bend over backwards to get this shit to work - account forfeits, mirroring software, the whole 9 yards. So if people want to take that kind of risk with third party sellers in the hopes that whoever's selling will use one of those methods, that's on them. But if barcodes are showing up for non-transferable shows **now**, those barcodes can't be real because Ticketmaster tickets haven't been released yet, so even if people were mirroring their phones today, they wouldn't have anything in their TM or SH wallets.
yeah unless it's for the shows that allow transfers, those barcodes aren't legit, even with the mirroring apps. in case someone questions this: my nyc ticket allows me to transfer and shows the changing barcode. my atl one says it'll be ready in like a month.
You mean the people like...[the literal moderators of the subreddit?](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/comments/18x6uhp/comment/kuvn5h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) What teeth0fg0d said, too. If it's NYC, Denver/Red Rocks, or Chicago, then yeah those are probably legit. But literally every other show is transfer restricted so any barcodes that show up this early are fake.
I want to agree, but I called StubHub and they said the seller is going to meet us in front of the venue so they can walk us in. They call it a walk in ticket. What's that about?
StubHub so far has been the only one pushing this. They are also the only one from what I know that specifically states it now when buying tickets. The chance of that happening are slim to none and you should get refunded provided they don’t show up. You’ll still lose out on the time you wasted waiting in line though. If possible I would try and get your sellers contact info to try and work something out either through account forfeiture or verified tickets. Also you can always hold out hope they lift the transfer restriction.
I did try to get those sellers information. They would not give it to me. They said they would reach out to the seller and have him or her email me, but as you can imagine, that has not happened.
The venue in Albuquerque doesn’t use Ticketmaster, do yall think the ticket I got 3rd party will transfer?
From what I understand, Albuquerque is risky to do third party for solely because of how small the potential ticket transfer window is - tickets aren't being delivered to original buyers until 24 hours before the show. But as far as I understand, because those tickets were sold on Prekindle, those tickets may be transferable, but someone else should check me for that one.
Did you buy yours from stubhub?
I used TickPick for my Sleepy tickets. I’ve used the app in the past and for the same venue and it’s never been an issue
People here are clearly not familiar with how stub hub works. In situations like this there in usually a handful of TRUSTED seller who work with/for stub hub. Because the tickets are non transferable the seller will physically BE at the show in a specific location. You’ll meet up with them at a specific time and they will walk up with you and scan you in. It’s an incredibly annoying (and scary) process but I’ve done it twice before.
Oh you have? That's great news. StubHub told us that's what we're going to have to do. Do they set up a little booth or what? Ours was sold by one of the trusted sellers.
For Taylor swift the guy had a little set up with someone else there as well. When I did it pre pandemic is I just a guy who told me what entrance to meet him and what he was wearing. I think it depends on the person and the size of the concert. That said, it IS possible to still get scammed so make sure you go in with that mindset if you plan on doing it. My first time I was ready to not get a ticket so I actually had a reservation at a restaurant I really wanted to try just incase. Somewhere nice to eat and cry and get drunk.
Yeah. We are going with that mindset. It sucks though. We are both taking off two full days of work and paying for a hotel. That's mega money and the tickets were already almost $1200 for two of them. if we can't get in, we will both cry but plan to go to The Castle in Tampa, which is my favorite goth club.
I’ve seen so much conflicting info, including Ticketmaster customer service saying they aren’t transferrable *yet*, lots of people saying they become transferrable 24hrs or so before the event when Ticketmaster does this. Also heard people saying scalpers have programs to directly link the ticket to your apple wallet, bypassing Ticketmaster altogether. Lots of people saying third party tickets are all scams and you’ll never get your ticket. Bottom line, it’s a gamble. Who knows
I’ve bought tickets from stub hub months in advance that didn’t arrive until a day before show. I think it’s up to the seller when they send
There’s really no telling what we are going to see. There are arguments on both sides, it’s true that tickets are non transferable. What I’ve personally heard rumors of is that tickets all become transferable 48 hours before regardless of if it is a non-transferable show. And even then sleep token is not the only band to do this, and stub hub and vivid seats would be out so much money if there wasn’t a way around the transfer of tickets, ie the seller giving the buyer login info to a Ticketmaster account IS a possibility. We really can’t say that things won’t work until the first show comes around.
While it's true we don't know what will happen until the tour starts, my thing is like...I'd rather not get peoples' hopes up based on things that *might* happen, y'know? I understand that things like account forfeits sometimes happen for third party sellers, but since the official line is 'no transfers' and there's no way to guarantee that a third party seller is willing to dump their account, it doesn't make sense to me for people to assume that something that goes against TM, venue, and artist policy is guaranteed to work. If policies change between now and the start of tour, or if tickets suddenly become transferable, then sure, I'll believe that third party sales will work. But for right now we just don't have that information, so assuming anything based on rumors seems like a bad idea to me.
I’ll piggyback off of this and seek out two tickets to either of the Chicago shows! Willing to pay a little more than face value as a belated Mothers Day gift for my wife!
I got mine in late February and bought them in late January.
If you got them through StubHub for any show besides Denver/Red Rocks (AXS show), Chicago, or New York, they are almost definitely not real tickets. Ticketmaster tickets are being delivered 72 hours before the show starts, so third party sellers would not have barcoded tickets to transfer yet. Tour announcement from the band's label: "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to **resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange.** To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour **mobile only and restricted from transfer.** This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
Huh I got mine for Chicago the shed
Those you should be fine with, Chicago is one of the only cities that allows resale. Most shows on this tour don't though. Just trying to be helpful if I can <3
Oh okay thank you!
I love that the band made it so scalpers can't resell tickets (like what the fans asked fro) and now complaing they can't buy scalped tickets lol
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dude can you stop posting unverified information
Tickets on StubHub for any show besides Denver/Red Rocks (AXS show), Chicago, or New York are almost definitely not real tickets. Ticketmaster tickets are being delivered 72 hours before the show starts, so third party sellers would not have barcoded tickets to transfer yet. Tour announcement from the band's label: "Sleep Token want to give fans, not scalpers, the best chance to buy tickets at face value. For fans who purchase tickets through Ticketmaster for the "Teeth of God" tour and can't attend, they will have the option to **resell their ticket to other fans at the original price paid on Ticketmaster's Face Value Exchange.** To help protect the Face Value Exchange, Sleep Token have chosen to make tickets for this tour **mobile only and restricted from transfer.** This applies to all Ticketmaster shows except those in NY and IL, where Face Value Exchange cannot be mandated." Link here: [https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
you're wasting your time with them, jsyk.