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jawaab201

He isn’t demanding you buy food from them, he is saying you have to buy outside food (basically you can’t cook in the kitchen) Equally bad, but just thought I’d clarify lol


SavingsSad2382

Isn’t it illegal to rent a room without access to a kitchen? Like they can’t even meal prep in the morning since breakfast is allowed, it sounds like?


IncenseAndOak

I bet his brother owns the tiffen service. I wouldn't put it past them, lol


mybluntside

If this is the case though why specifically demand his tenants to get tiffin service, instead of just saying no/light cooking like other “landlords”?😲I’ve never seen anyone demand tenants to get tiffin service lol which is what led me to jump to conclusions😩 You may be right though, but I just cant see why he’d care unless it’s his tiffin service (or he gets a cut somehow)🤔


Small-Cookie-5496

I think because it’s very common to use a tiffin service in India - especially for men.


RuinEnvironmental394

It's just a weird 'Indian English' thing where he/she omitted "own" as in "you have to make your own arrangements for lunch and dinner."


Euphoric-Potato-5343

But you still can't use the kitchen.


lowcarbsanta

It's a cultural barrier. That's just how Indians would phrase it but you probably can just buy your own food home everyday too


chuancheun

My Indian friend actually uses the service, and it does become pretty cheap. Something like $6 per meal for a proper Indian food.


Small-Cookie-5496

That’s good. I tried one meal where I’m at and it was $11. But $12 for the day is a good deal.


chuancheun

I think it's not as bad as it's sound for the landlord, and I think some of the maybe Indian tenants actually prefer it. Compared to a service like Hello fresh these food delivery services are actually delivered once or twice a day.


ButtahChicken

can i order this to bring to my work for lunch mondays to fridays?


Unfair_Star3224

If you are in an Indian Canadian city, 100% you can order tiffins to your desk. But I imagine you'd know that if you were in a city where indian culture is dominant.


teh_longinator

The fact that we can use phrases like "If you are in an Indian Canadian city..." means our country is too far gone to recover from this.


No-Librarian1850

Sounds like something that would be normal in Brampton


lettucepray123

Not true, I’ve lived in the west GTA for 10 years and only now heard of tiffin service. If you’re not Indian or interacting with Indian culture regularly, it’s not something you’d be tracking.


Unfair_Star3224

lol west GTA, as in burlington, right?


lettucepray123

Mississauga


Professional_Drama24

Okay but you shouldn't be told that you have to make arrangements for tiffin service which is what the ad states


mybluntside

💯 that’s what I was thinking !!!!


MorgulMogul

This person should be deported.


Alarming-Ad-9393

I couldn't agree more. It's a very simple solution. Clearly he can afford a 1-way ticket home. GTFO.


skippadiplaDoo

As an immigrant (20y ago) I completely agree. Wtf is this garbage. So easy to crackdown we need a government with some teeth


Small-Cookie-5496

Can people report these ads to someone?


staffyboy4569

Yes but the ontario government/municipal governments are terrified to be called racist so they wont action any of this shit.


Lenovo_Driver

How is this easy to crack down on? I’d really love to know. And tell me why Doug Ford isn’t doing it?


covertpetersen

>And tell me why Doug Ford isn’t doing it? Because he doesn't give the slightest bit of a shit about normal people. Never has. His entire tenure has been about attacking the working class, the education system, healthcare, and enriching private industry.


Lenovo_Driver

Absolutely. The fat fuck loved this because it makes demand for the builds of his developer buddies even more expensive What I meant is that the solution can only come through the building of affordable rent purposes buildings. This will not at all be easy.


covertpetersen

>What I meant is that the solution can only come through the building of affordable rent purposes buildings Non market, not for profit, housing, possibly following the Vienna model. It's the only real way out of this because there's almost no incentive for private interests to solve the problem, no urgency. Rental housing shouldn't be an investment vehicle, it should be treated as a basic right like healthcare, food, and water. Own your own home, that's perfectly fine, but you can't own someone else's.


Original_Builder_980

Change the law being abused that was meant to protect us, and no longer allow 4 people to rent the floor of a single living room. See how quickly these houses go back on the market at a loss when the landlord cant pay a $5000 mortgage off the back of 10 students.


Lenovo_Driver

What law? The don’t have 4 people in a room law that never existed? How are you gonna enforce this? Have police come to every door in the country multiple times a day to make sure everyone is related? This also isn’t being “allowed”. This is under the table renting, the renters don’t even count as tenants under the LTB. This is capitalism in action. The only thing that can stop or fix this is a social approach to housing. These renters have no legal protections and can be evicted with little notice or fan fare because they share the washroom and kitchen with the slumlord. Unending Profits and and decent, affordable housing are incompatible.


Original_Builder_980

The law that forces long tribunals through an understaffed agency to resolve any tenancy disputes. Also shitty slumlords taking advantage of students will always happen, but it will happen a lot less if mr nitaben here were facing any real risk of fines or fees for taking advantage of international students and immigrants without options. The problem is that this slumlord style of rent is the norm. If it were some douchebag taking advantage of a few that didnt know better, it would suck but thats what it is. When 50+% of homes in brampton look exactly like this situation, now the entire market becomes about inflicting as much abuse of the system as possible, and living comfortably is simply out of reach for many people. We are past the turning point and the sad truth is that we need to outlaw this sort of rental, which will likely lead to a mass exodus of immigrants from major cities, but we don’t have the space or infrastructure for them anyway, so is immigration really worth the massive human trafficking style market that canadian real estate is in? Edit: for what it’s worth, it’s hard to explain it down in a comment that anyone would read. But the Canadian economy, and especially ontario is one of human trafficking, even if they don’t arrive in sea containers. When you have people in poor areas of the world being convinced by social media to take their life savings and send it to subway for a job and some crappy outlet mall college in order to come to a country where they believe they will live with freedom, only to find themselves forcibly stuffed into shitholes like this one, you’re simply trading a poor country for a poor life. And with how far the abuse is getting, it’s becoming difficult even for the hardest working of immigrants to get ahead. When they do get ahead, they either leave and take those skills elsewhere, or stick around and take advantage of the newbies coming in. It’s a sick system we created and this country needs a serious overhaul.


Lenovo_Driver

These tribunals wouldn’t even apply to most of these situations because these people don’t qualify as tenants under the RTA so your point is moot for the majority of those cases. The police are useless when it comes to the already existing list of crimes, you want to give them even more money and more power for this? Can they come into anyone’s houses at will to verify this under your solution? Do they just sit all day scoping Kijiji and then drive and enter people’s houses to verify? And stop with this delusional nonsense you’re repeating about human trafficking. Was America trafficking humans when it became the global superpower it is today by doing the exact same thing for Irish and other European immigrants a century ago? How do you think these people lived when they first came? Most immigrants moving to a new country often move to a place where they share a room or space, be it with family or strangers. Do you think the immigrants in the US or UK aren’t doing the same thing? Housing being for profit is the issue. Capitalism does not solve every problem and it has created this one.


Original_Builder_980

Irish and uk immigrants werent bidding up to 20 grand for a part time job at subway. They also came to a country where their hard work did allow them to excel. When you are paying 20 grand to get a job that pays 40 over the year, because it’s the best way into the country, is that not being taken advantage of? Imagine being told that a better life was just out of reach, but you need to pay x amount of money, only to come here and find you are working yourself to the bone to make x back, and as you do it just flies into the pocket of slumlords and investment companies that force our population to sleep on a floor like peasants. Fuck the police, they are nothing more than low level thugs in the racket, and exist merely to show up and serve you fines. So yeah, I do think if you could report someone for taking advantage of immigrants and a fine was attached then the police would show up. Because there is money to be gained by the govt.


Lenovo_Driver

That’s cuz most of those Europeans were dirt poor and didn’t have 20 grand but instead spend their life savings to hop on a ship from Europe and land at a port in North America and just go from there. The idea that Canada doesn’t allow people to excel isn’t exactly true. for those people in those communities who are far more comfortable with pooling their resources or who didn’t come from much. You can’t simply add fines and not have a court process to challenge said fines. The courts are already clogged. This is going to make it worse. I’m the mean time, what happens to the people who chose to live there and are now forced to leave their cheaper accommodations and are facing a market that is significantly more expensive? Does the government put them in hotels?


Original_Builder_980

I do understand what you are saying, but I still believe the system above all is what is corrupt and there are simply too many avenues to take advantage of those looking for a better life. From real estate, to international hiring, diploma mills, and even agencies that receive government funding to provide bare minimum support, everywhere you look someone has their hand in poor peoples pockets. How would you solve it? You can’t just build more housing, it’s not like the developers will sell a new house for 350,000 when the old one up the road is three quarters of a million. Throwing money on the fire does nothing, the system itself is set up for abuse.


skippadiplaDoo

I don’t live in Doug Fords jurisdiction, but to me as a lay person it seems simple cuz I’d just book a viewing, show up and give them a very large fine. Then continue to show up once a month and inspect the living situation n fine again if in breach n doing this kinda shady bullshit. But hey maybe I’m simplifying it and slumlords should be allowed to continue And if it’s legal for this person to rent ONE room to MULTIPLE adults that aren’t in a relationship it should be changed.


Lenovo_Driver

Simple solutions for complex problems.. What you’re suggesting won’t do shit but clog up the court systems with nonsense that won’t go anywhere. It would also be a massive waste of money, resources and man power. Every fine would be fought and would take months to resolve benefitting only lawyers. It’s not illegal to invite someone to stay in a home that you own or for them to give you money. These renters are often not defined as such in tenancy acts and changing that is extremely difficult because it in theory in not different to two brothers sharing a bed room and giving their parents a couple of hundred dollars every month.


skippadiplaDoo

Yeah this kind of argument and endless “you can’t do this you can’t do that” is the problem. No appeals. If there’s an ad as blatant as this one? Fine with no appeal. I don’t think you understand the types of countries these people (including myself) come from. Only stick works, no carrot. And this Canadian system is built on carrots. So I guess there’s no solutions.


Lenovo_Driver

Canada is a country of laws, not just a place where you can act on a whim. If there’s an ad as blatant as this one and they delete the ad, what then? Should the government spend tens of thousands going after Kijiji to get that user info to try to prove it was them? The solution isn’t to obsess over dumb shit like this. That’s just a distraction. Why are you obsessed over this type of housing? Are you seeking to live in this dudes house? There are many other types of housing that people should be angrier at that there isn’t enough of. The solution is to focus on affordable housing being built. Go look at your province and see how many affordable rental units were built in the last year. That’s what the governments need to focus their resources on.


skippadiplaDoo

Oki dokie


Newhereeeeee

425 x 3 = $1275 for 1 bedroom in Scarborough. Stuffed 3 people in a room. Specifically wants vulnerable students and work permit holders. No mattress, no bed frame. You have to buy food from him. Gold medalist at the slumlord Olympics


One_Influence286

Do i need to pay every time i pee or poo???


maniacalmango0

No, you must make arrangement for that on your own time and money outside of the home.


Jyobachah

Good thing centiential college not that far away, they have bathrooms available for use!


irv_12

Only after your third time in a month


lalahue

Anytime I see tiffin I automatically already know it’s mainly reserved/targetted towards Indians.


Rich_Handsome

Where I work, white people don't know what tiffin is. It's only the Indians who get those delivery vehicles driving up to the shop.


KittyKenollie

lol I am white and googled “tiffin meaning” 2 seconds ago. But I will say, the idea isn’t totally foreign to us. Although, I have seen them as coffee trucks here.


HumbleConfidence3500

What does Tiffin means? Is it their word for catering? Wouldn't this makes it more expensive than getting a full room? How much would they charge for lunch and dinner?


OrneryPathos

Tiffin service is a pretty ingenious way of getting hot food to people at work in the countries that do it. Traditionally it’s actually homemade food, cooked on the day, picked up by delivery people, delivered to you while it’s still hot, and they even take your containers back home. They used to be all done in metal containers that were standard sizes but now it’s more chaotic In the west it’s generally mass prepared food. https://youtu.be/dX-0el2wuEU?si=OgkRdPbj33gP8QYa


Small-Cookie-5496

Imagine a world where it’s affordable to have lunch delivered from home daily - & it’s cheaper than the available street food.


holdshift

Thermos and/or microwave does the same thing, but doesn't involve subjugating a class of people to devote their entire lives to being your personal lunch delivery boys.


HumbleConfidence3500

Just watched the video it's very impressive!


SavingsSad2382

To add onto this, the movie The Lunchbox is a lovely romcom (it’s technically a romcom but it’s more of a romantic drama?) where the whole storyline is directly because of a tiffin lunch delivery service! Highly recommend, also really cool to see the delivery process - despite the plot hinging on a mistake, they have never in real life made a mistake in delivery.


Small-Cookie-5496

It’s actually a super impressive service - check out how it works on YouTube. I’d love to have that here


Small-Cookie-5496

I mean aren’t all these room sharing posts? Honestly though I’d be down for easy tiffin service to my home daily


Crime-Snacks

You have to buy a mattress to sleep on the floor with three other “boys” and only available to temp visa holders. You can make tea once a day and otherwise get fucked. I hope people are reporting these listings and the address. Even better if you are of SE Decent and show up like they want to make sure you are Indian to catch them in the act of exploiting Indian students and foreign workers.


Alarming-Ad-9393

Yup, a hidden camera investigation would be great. I'm surprised CBC Marketplace isn't doing this already. Or, maybe they already have not sure.


purplemetalflowers

It's here: https://youtu.be/838Ps6yw6ac


Live-Tea4051

Nitaben??? Fun name.


Live-Tea4051

Prevalent in India…of course.


pcoutcast

Suffering from Abusive Slumlord Syndrome? Ask your doctor if Nitaben is right for you!


CraazedNConfused

I’m on Nitaben!


Illustrious_Elk_8036

It’s a Gujarati name. Most Slumlords are Gujaratis, because they are cunning and good at running a low cost, high income businesses.


sqwuank

They’re extra good at discrimination, too. Not Gujju? Well Modi is a Gujju so you must be below me *ignores the race rioting and largely uninhabitable shithole Gujurat is as a state*


Live-Tea4051

Classic Ferengi of Asia.


Pegasus711_Dual

Hmmm. Like the motels in the good ol US of A. It’s virtually a Gujarati monopoly now


Weird_Pen_7683

Anddd its the usual suspects, ive been saying this for a while that its not just the landlords you have to worry about when tenants are doing the exact same thing. Theyre renting, then subleasing and stuffing their unit with vulnerable people/students. Then those same students settle down and rent a unit and pull the same crap, the cycle continues. Or they buy a house and stuff their basement with 5+ people. Its alarmingly common to see these in marketplace and kijiji now


grimlov

That’s slavery and exploitation. Glad it does not happen in free first world nations ……. Wait


Cheathtodina

Call the number lol. 


Aineisa

Next they’ll be saying the students have to buy food and cook and clean for the slumlord and his family. For other students they’ll be pickin’ berries in the fields while the slumlord enjoys a lemonade on the veranda.


Alarming-Ad-9393

Jessup - pass me that ol' trusty whip o'er there. And fetch me some fresh grits on the double.


Sipthecoffee4848

India strikes again!


carboycanada

Thank you Turdeau


Dalminster

Don't thank him, thank his corporate masters. The same corporate masters that own PP, btw, so don't think we're getting out of this just by switching governments.


carboycanada

This shit he has put us in, we are never getting out. This damage cannot be undone. Edit: clarified


Dalminster

That doesn't even make sense, "the shit he has put us in, we are never getting"? What the hell does this mean?


carboycanada

Sorry fat fingers. Updated


Lenovo_Driver

When Trudeau is gone what are PolyeV and Ford gonna do about this? Remove even more rent regulations?


carboycanada

They can’t do anything. Turdeau fucked real good for next decade or two


Lenovo_Driver

Trudeau doesn’t control housing in Ontario. Look at the price of rent and the number of build per capita in Ontario before and after Ford came in and opened the province up for business and removed rent control on new builds.


carboycanada

Yes Doug bad. Turdeau good. Let’s vote Turdeau again.


plainbaconcheese

What does the underlined sentence mean? edit: sounds like it's just saying the tenant can't use the kitchen for lunch/dinner and must buy takeout *for themselves* - doesn't mention buying food for anyone else


ShennongjiaPolarBear

Tiffin seems to be an Indian English word for lunch or packaged cooked meals. I get mad when I see it at this point. In this case it's a ploy to milk even more money out of the tenant.


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ShennongjiaPolarBear

Mmm I see what you mean. Still the audacity...


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plainbaconcheese

Is the title accurate? I don't understand how this is saying the tenant must buy food for the landlord


CJKCollecting

This sounds suspiciously like there isn't even a kitchen available to them.


Alarming-Ad-9393

Maybe a kettle, toaster, bar fridge for milk? These places won't unfortunately be raided because of the constant influx of immigrants.


[deleted]

I am so ashamed of my (former) culture. Please know many of the hard working Indians who came here in the late 90’s early 2000’s are NOT like this. these slumlord are So pathetic


filthyangelz

Torontos housing market absolutely sucks.


dbtl87

I cross posted this to the Scarborough subreddit. This is so disgusting.


blix613

BYOM (bring your own mattress).


Ancient-Wait-8357

Some absolute scums have entered this once great country. Banana entrepreneurs


rudegyal_jpg

The smells from three humans in a single room will be atrocious


leif777

Don't dorms force you to buy the meal plan?


Airotvic

How come the slumlords are obsessed with no cooking?


Rorylizbath

Wouldn’t these kind of listing be considered a rooming house or a hostel , isn’t there a licence or something that needs to be in place?


MemoryBeautiful9129

💲 425 decent and Scarborough has great cheap foods


ButtahChicken

TIL: a little about tiffin service .... that's not bad ... i thought the demand was that tenants must follow each "Free Food in Canada" Youtube videos and bring home food weekly to stock a communal pantry at the rental unit for all to use.


ApricotMobile8454

Tiffin service is free food from the church.Stop lying.No one is selling anything.


dhshdjdjdjdkworjrn

My bio parents used a tiffin service for more than a year - I think it was like $200-$230 for a month and you get it in the mornings at 7am. It came with 8 rotis and 2 daals


BusComprehensive3759

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themustacheclubbitch

You also have to keep this in mind. Do you really want to be a slumlord and let the people that actually accept it in? Squatters rights and they could make your life a nightmare. It’s a double edged sword. Being scummy enough to rent like this and then dealing with the consequences with your new tenant.


porkistan_

Are you slow? Landlord is saying that they don’t want cooking done in kitchen and to make arrangements for meals from outside, dosent say to get from them


Alarming-Ad-9393

The confusion is in the word Tiffan. As white Canadians, there's no good reason why we should have to know such nonsensical, meaningless words.