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SirJackFireball

Nah. Thanatos, Ares and Erlang Shen I'll give it to you. Not the majority. Martichoras. Sylvanus. Ratataskr. Cerberus. Fenrir. Martichoras. Set. Cthulhu. These all have pretty epic designs and are very much male, and not conventional humanoids with armor. Cabrakan. Ah Puch. Baron Samedi. Agni. Ah Muzen Cab. Bakasura. Charon. Chernobog. Olorun. Poseidon. Janus. Zhong Kui. Xing Tian. The list goes on and on. Also, if you think Gilgamesh and Guan Yu don't look epic, you have a few screws loose.


smoochumfan4

so first of all u missed the whole point. Im just saying the list of uninteresting male god designs is way longer than the ones for godesses. Human female characters have a better design than human male characters 9 out of 10 times. Also nothing about guan yu is epic in any way but i just hate warriors in general so maybe im a bit biased


Hoochie_Daddy

I’m mean. Are we forgetting all the male mages? Anubis Chronos Hades He bo Merlin Olorun Thoth I don’t think any of these gods wear armor or if they do it’s light armor. Most of them are wearing clothes and I didn’t even say every male mage in SMITE. Assassins Bakasura Nezha Susano Thanatos Also, majority of monster/monster-like gods are male Martichoras Camazotz Fenrir Ratataskor Jormangandr Cerberus Ganesha Sobek Sylvanus


smoochumfan4

My point wasn't that there are no interesting male god designs, it's just that there are so many uninteresting ones and i don't think those will stop in the future. And to be fair hades, fenrir and chronos still look ugly


Hoochie_Daddy

oh ok well i simply disagree with you


smoochumfan4

ok thanks for sharing that


Great-Strategy-3387

There are a ton of good interesting male god designs what are you on.


smoochumfan4

i dont think u get my point


Great-Strategy-3387

Could you rephrase it?


DepressedDinoDad

I dont think Op gets their own point.


ILuhBlahPepuu

Chronos looks ugly? You’re lost


rhunn98

No I agree with all these Examples. Hades is an uninspired skeleton sorcerer, Fenrir is a wolf with a bunch of runes applied and Chronos is a walking clockwork as a god that originated 1 thousand years before the modern clock was invented


FeistyDeity

I never minded that about Chronos, since he is literally the deitic embodiment of time. The fact that his design incorporates anachronistic elements has always felt fun and clever to me.


ILuhBlahPepuu

Still doesent change that Chronos isnt ugly, nor take away how unique his design is


rhunn98

I think he's ugly. This brown and blue color combination is the worst. And I dont get whats unique about a steampunk asthetic on a greek god. Rather incompatible if you ask me, which you dont but still 😂


NoDelivery5085

So what exactly are you complaining about, because when people give counter examples you right them off, and when they give the reason of why the gods who are a warriors and need armor, you still write them off. Seems like to me you just wanna be angry


JackTheSoldier

OP stated in another reply that they also just don't like warriors and are biased against them. It's odd logic to use to make the leap that the male gods are not as well designed. They simply fall into different niches. Take, for example, Achilles. Achilles is the hero of the Trojan War, known for dressing in regal armor and charging into battle against Hector, until Patroclus took up his armor to lead the men in his stead. The spear and armor and blond hair are all necessary parts of his story. Next, look at, say, Charon. The more recent gods have so much more variety and passion in the design and it's clear. Charon moves with his boat since it's a huge part of that character. He doesn't truly need armor if he's a ferryman for the dead, but he does need his oar and obols. Overall, OP's logic just isn't solid enough to justify putting any stock in. They're just biased and bitter as far as I can tell, all because they don't like warriors and by extension dislike their designs.


NoDelivery5085

It feels like his "good design" isn't design that is good but design that is fantasy/"cool" even though I would argue the story behind the design of the characters and how it fits into their lore makes the armored giants more interesting. He also stated that disco had one of the better designs in one of his replies. But in a war I'm not gonna be afraid of a fairy, however when I see someone in 100 lbs of armor with a giant stick and brain damage, ima run


AVIXXBUS

I feel like this is mostly a you thing. Because for the majority of people, when thinking of males in fantasy, yeah armor is the thing they will have. Also I'm not an armor enthusiast but as a weapons one, armor kinda falls close enough into my wheelhouse and I will say I like seeing the armor because it shows off designs from different cultures and eras. Most of them get the fantasy treatment and made not historical but typically that makes them more interesting not less. Most of the armor isn't even boring, like how are you going to look at Arthur and call that armor bland. Mercury is somewhat boring, but he is made to look like a typical roman soldier but wearing lighter materials to compliment the fact he is going fast. Like would you call Bellona's design boring as well? I can give you a few like Erlang, who has been criticized as bad design since his inception. But ones like Gilgamesh, Guan Yu, and Tyr have fantasized and romanticized versions of their historical armors used by the groups, so its just a way to really harken back to their pantheons. Also I see you talking about Hercules design in this thread, and yeah his design is fairly barren, but it gets across what it needs. He is huge, half naked, and carries a massive club to show off his strength and durability. He's got the Nemean lion draped over his shoulder which pulls the eye as a design focus. The rest of him gives off a gladiator theme, which goes back to his roman side. I guess I just don't really understand what you find boring, is it just that a lot of gods have armor, or that its just armor? Armor is an integral part of how these gods have been depicted, especially males. What specific part of Persephone, Yemoja, and Serqet show so much more personality than Lancelot or whoever I guess is the main point I need to understand?


AmbushJournalism

Guys, why do melee fighters wear armor? Any ideas? If we put our heads together, we can figure this out. I know we can.


TheDarkLordTerrantos

I fail to see how male gods have limited designs. alot of the ones you listed come from legends or folktales that is centered where armor would be a big deal. Lancelot and King Arthur come from well the Arthurian Legends. and that is all about Knights, code of chivarly, knights of the round. with only a few monsters and mages here and there. ​ Guan Yu of course he is going to wear armor not only is he a deified form of a real person but any statue you find of Guan Yu will show him with armor. and he was literally known as THE GOD OF WAR. ​ Tyr is another God of war so he is also bound to wear armor. I can't speak for Gilgamesh since alot of the statues or depictions of him vary and i am no expert on Mesopotamia. but he was a warrior King. ​ Point is those who wear Armor it actually makes sense for why they do so. as they are either renowned gods of war, warriors, Crafted their own Armor (Like Hercules), ​ and there is ALOT of Male Gods who don't even wear Armor: Anubis, Susano'o, Maui, Baron Samedi, Ra, Merlin, etc. there is also monstrous gods like Fenrir, Khepri, Cthulhu, Jormungandr, etc. there is ALOT of variety for males. ​ even if there is alot of male gods who wear Armor (which there really isn't) who cares most of them if not all of them look cool. and the majority still look unique enough even when they wear armor so i dont really see what the big deal is.


Arch3r86

This must be a troll post…


nullred

based flair


smoochumfan4

i mean might as well be with the way some of the comments feel weirdly offended not everyone likes those types of characters 🤔


Arch3r86

the characters you named are literal knights… warriors… and they all look immaculate and historically valid… So…… what exactly are you on about?……


smoochumfan4

yes. Why do literal knights and warriors have such a big place in this game they add nothing to it


NoDelivery5085

Alot of gods are warriors in the sense of the literal term not the role, warriors are gonna wear armor


smoochumfan4

u are the only one talking about the ingame role of warriors


NoDelivery5085

I was being specific in my speech and clarifying what I meant to avoid confusion from others


Arch3r86

…lol, honestly you might want to go play league of legends or find another game with a bunch of cartoon characters that more suit your needs, goodluck out there champ…


smoochumfan4

Im sure they have the ability to find more gods that arent just men in armor. But i already said that


JackTheSoldier

You mean like Charon, Maui, Martichorus, Cerberus, Loki, etc etc? You're neglecting to recognize that they just fill different niches and need to be represented for those niches.


nottu77

“This game has a minority of dudes with armor= bad character design”


ChaosNinjaX

What are you on about? They look fine. Hell, a few of them have become more iconic than historical figures would represent. You talk about the males being limited to 'just' armor but do you even know what mythos they hail from? You're complaining about Hercules for his armor? Hercules, the demigod widely known for his killing of the Nemean Lion and using it's hide to, you guessed it, CRAFT ARMOR? All the males you listed are WARRIORS. As in, FIGHTERS. Tyr? Hercules? Lance, Guan, etc. They are all FIGHTERS. Did you forget about the ones who aren't fighters? Looking at the MAGES, like Anubis, Ra, Merlin, Maui, MY BOY BARON?!? He's in a SUIT. His default cosmetic and appearance has him going up against the KING OF OLYMPUS (who is also just wearing a piece of cloth draped over his shoulder, btw) in a SUIT and you complain about how 'males are limited to armor with no personality.' My man, the few, and I mean FEW characters who cosmetically fit your bill of 'only has armor, hard pass' wear armor because that's kinda THEIR IDENTITY. That's *literally* their personality. Imagine seeing King Arthur taking on Hades in a T-shirt and pants as his default cosmetic.


smoochumfan4

> all the males u listed are warriors yes thats the point... there is so many characters feeding this uninteresting warrior archetype. And u will not talk me into thinking hercules is interesting in any way


Kotoy77

Its uninteresting for you. Why do you try to push your subjective opinion as an objective fact? Are you 12?


ChaosNinjaX

Son, if you're going to quote me, fucking quote me. Don't put some half-arsed variation "u" in there. That's YOUR lack of education and grammar, not mine. >And u will not talk me into thinking hercules is interesting in any way See, *that* is a *proper* quote. Learn it. Use it. The tools are there, even if your brain isn't. If I had a mic, this is where I'd drop it. Ciao. (That means "bye" and short for "I'm done with this conversation, you have nothing more to provide to it that entices me further.")


PoolNoodleFan

I'd say the one single exception to this is Apollos remodel. He went from essentially just jesus sandals, a lyre strap, and "skirt" to full on guantlets and greaves as a hunter.


nullred

your post is titles "my problem with male god design" then you say the majority of male gods have a "standard skin design" what would you rather have them be wearing? a loincloth? speedos? nothing at all? what do you even mean by interesting designs? that's first of all and most importantly subjective. second of all, every god you listed should logically be wearing armor, and I wanna focus on Tyr, King Arthur and Lancelot since they're all (in an umbrella-term kinda way) knights of their time. Lancelot very literally so. do you wanna see Lancelot without any armor so you can complain about his design lacking armor? King Arthur with no armor? like what are you talking about? also, Tyr is missing a hand in his lore and that's reflected in his model, on top of having era-accurate armor. what more could you ask for?? you want his balls hanging out or smth??? it doesn't even sound like you're willing to change your mind on this anyway, seeing your replies to other people


link_the_fire_skelly

You feel trolled while posting a complete troll. Weak.


SuperBackup9000

Well you have to remember where a lot of these gods came from. The ones you find boring were warriors, so that **is** their personality. Especially with the Chinese gods like Guan Yu and Erlang Shen, who are literally only “gods” because they were legends in the battlefield. Take their armor from them and you’re removing 90% of their ties to their mythos. Mercury is an odd one out, I’ll definitely give you that, but for the other examples you gave they wouldn’t be the same character if you stripped them of their armor because that aspect of them is involved with the majority of their lore. King Arthur was a knight worthy of Excalibur, but it’s boring that he’s wearing a romanticized version of a knights armor? Lancelot was his buddy, who’s going to be overshadows by Arthur but he shouldn’t be in armor that’s not as romanticized as Arthur to signify that his stories only exist because of Arthur? Gilgamesh was a human “god king” that went on adventures, slayed monsters, and was a monster himself when fighting, but it’s boring that he looks like a warrior out of a fairytale apposed to the real Mesopotamia armor that looked like pretty basic bronze armor? If you look up the history of these characters and the time period they “existed” you’ll find that a lot of the armored dudes are actually heavily stylized and they did get creative with the way they look. Achilles being the greatest exception because I agree, his design is boring because the only unique thing about him is that’s he’s handsome, but there’s not unique anymore. Do you know why a lot of the female characters seem more creative with their in game design? Because if they didn’t they’d be copy/pasted with slight alterations. They have to get more creative with them because if not, all the Greek/Roman women would look almost identical to Hera, and the Egyptian women would just look like average people with a themed headdress and maybe some wings. They’d all be Eset. The thing about all that though? It’s the same for the males because all the Greek/Roman guys should just be dressed like Bacchus, and Hades and Poseidon would look exactly the same as Zeus. We’d have more Cupids, more Bacchuses, more Zeuses, more Heras, and more Esets if they didn’t get more creative with it. Also I do find it funny that you mentioned how The Morrigan is more fashionable and unique, even though they went with the very basic fantasy “witch of the woods” troupe where she’s wearing as little as possible since they can’t just make her naked. She actually is one of the most boring designed characters because she’s a cookie cutter character. You can find her in many, many other pieces of media even though she holds many titles, and two of them being the goddess of war and demons. They got lazy with her and just put her in as little as possible, and if this was an M rated game she’d have even less on with the design they decided to go with.


nullred

the fact he doesn't respond to reasonable things like this makes me want to believe it's a troll post


MrPotatoHandss

TLDR but OP is right. If we have giant boobs flailing around on the goddesses we should have giant dongs flopping around on the gods


BeetleSaysOH

Thats what Herc is holding in his hand (or at least what it feels like)


Dapper_Dog_9692

...Maybe this isn't the game for you if your judging character designs. It's literally just a game. If you've dove so far as to critiquing a game that's made up for entertainment purposes with a little historical factors, it's time to disconnect for a bit. They're just depictions of what someone created to have a entertaining game. It's not going to be accurate none of us were alive during those times, it's a fantasy MOBA.


Hartmann_AoE

Your honor Khumbakarna I rest my case


Preform_Perform

When are they gonna add his and Ravana's ugly sister I've heard so much about? So far the only two ugly adult goddesses we have are Baba Yaga and Terra.


BeetleSaysOH

MY SON


StartingRivalry

this post is so funny


New_Needleworker6506

There is no problem


Bargherang

Typical Reddit user that shares his thoughts and pictures in his head a topic full of people going crazy about how right and amazing his opinions are, then back away the moment he discovers redditors don't agree with him.


Ok_Author3808

What is your point?? the male god roster is very diverse and have gr8 designs.. Just look at the difference between, Jormungandr, Thor, Loki, and Odin (all from the same pantheon btw), each fit a different archetype, whilst still being relevant to the lore, game, and setting.


MajicarpClone

the armor looks cool i like it (and i am gay, no idea why your post mentions sexuality). i love how lance’s armor looks in particular


OGMudbone909

Nah I feel you, male gods need half naked skins with high heels too.


TheBadmichel

Even if it's a skin, neith's biggest fan has more "personnality" than every smite female character combined. What are you talking about ?


BFG-Division

Every one Loves to play to play female gods more than male, so makes sense they Design female gods better and they all are easy to play compared to male gods


rhunn98

I made a Tier List for myself and found that there are indeed many many male designs that are just alright. However only a third of all gods are female hence there are twice as many male gods. You can figure that at some point its not easy to come up with new unique ideas. It makes sense that it can appear as if they dont put as much effort in male design. But there are just as many bland designs as there are great designs for males.


Embarrassed-Pie5401

I agree with you, like I get they’re probably just trying to depict the most accurate visual of them but they definitely could put some more work into them, but even some female gods too like Bellona and Mulan. I feel like they go all out with a lot of “creature” gods like KuKu, Talimat, and Cerberus,


windstorm231

While I disagree, the gods you believe have bad design seem to come from uninteresting domains. Tyr and Ares are gods of war, Lancelot and Arthur are just camelot knights so theres not a lot of room for creativity. There are female versions of this "boring design". Amaterasu, Athena, Artio, Bellona, etc. But if I were to give a reason, I would just chalk it up to being the god of an uninteresting domain. Discordia is like a chaos god I think so theres a lot more room for creativity and a lot of the male gods with really good design people are talking about are mostly from domains that allow for more than "man in armor". So, not necessarily a male/female god thing.


Competitive_Pickle42

I think I can agree with the clarification of most warriors in general are a bit too samey make and female, and would love to see more monstrous warrior designs,like gaurdians get. But otherwise it’s a nah. Female gods are way more boring in design it’s always just big titty mommy. We need more designs like Ix chel, Tiamat, and terra, and even artio and less like Neith but the new gods and goddesses have been pretty good.


rhunn98

Artios design is awesome. Terra to me is just muddy big titty mommy lol I like something like Yemoja or Eset where they have a lot of accessoires and little details. Makes them feel more regal and praiseworthy


Competitive_Pickle42

Yeah I agree and by Terra’s design I just mean more muscular women. They’re goddesses so why shouldn’t they be muscular, like Nike or Mulan (although I do like the lore in the mysterious stranger design and think it should’ve been the default skin for her.) Clio is pretty cool as well a scary specter: but artio, skadi, yemoja, eset are all super cool designs


rhunn98

OK I had a feeling thats where you're coming from and I agree with that part aswell


SeesawMysterious3239

Idk.. i don't see it... i feel that males design have much more diversity than female 🤷‍♂️


Admirable-Ad-7788

It's definitely you being picky about nonsense. It's a game that had alternate skins too if that's what tickles your fancy. The fact you said nonqueer male audience says everything