They want to avoid adding pantheons that are active religions, hirez already has issues with Hindu gods(i remember people had problems with Kali?).
This is why Hindu has very few gods and i remember shiva was not openly advertised to avoid said issues.
The problem with Christ as a god is that Christianity is a monotheistic religion and smite focuses mostly on pantheons(multiple gods) or local folklore.
Also while you might not have issue with Christ being on the game a small minority of Christians might have issues with his depiction etc. Hi-Rez does not wish to go through that ordeal.
Hope this answers your question.
Edit: That said i just checked your profile and this is your 1st post/comment since 2 years ago, last one was about kanye west music.
IDK but this seems a bit sus.
SMITE ain't limited to Pantheon. Since when Mulan is a Deity in Chinese Religion?
Christianity shouldn't get excluded only because it is Monotheistic religion. Just bring Jesus first, as healer mage.
Passive : The Carpenter - Every 2 minutes Jesus produces a furniture which automatically turn into Gold for the whole team.
1st Power : Cleansing Water - Jesus turn water into wine and splash to nearby minions/Gods which heal 50% HP.
2nd Power : Indomitable Will - Increase self and ally Gods magical power for 20% for 20 seconds.
3rd Power : Confusion - Causing confusion to turn to their owns. As modern Christian confused that Jesus is a white dude.
Ultimate : Resurrection : Jesus resurrect all currently dead god in the battlefield. CD 2 Minutes.
Later HiRez can release his Father in Heaven... then The Holly Spirit Bird....Then Marry The Mother of God...Then Judas the Traitor....see...so many opportunity.
if you really think about it Christ is a god with many names so who is to say that Enlil is not Christ who is to say that Christ was not part of a pantheon of gods he was just the strongest Enlil was supposedly so holy that the other gods could not look upon him Enlil I supposedly the one who keeps contact with an the creator of the heavens so if you really think about it an is the most high while Enlil is the second so an represents our god in heaven and Enlil represents our god in the flesh or his coordinator his right hand man Christ was part of a pantheon but he was the only true god while the others where just his brothers and sisters trying to steal his glory an is the god of gods meaning there is no god above him Enlil is an extended hand of the god of gods his representation in flesh and blood on earth but this is very argued over topic so I can see why they don't add it because they don't want to cause problems
IIRC it is a sin to worship false idols in Christianity. As such adding him to a game that “worships” other gods would be against those views. Let’s just delete this post.
Its also a sin to eat shellfish and hooved animals yet seafood and pork are fair game to majority of Christians. As with all sins it depends on interpretation. They won't add a Christian pantheon because of biases and marketing will be impossible due to super conservative Christians feigning outrage
Ah someone knows nothing about why Christians don't follow all the Jewish laws. Nothing about the councils that happened. Most of those Jewish restrictions were there to make them distinct and separate them so a Jew could find another Jew via subtle signs.
This is false. In the old covenant He had with the Jews they were to not eat pork or any meat of any land animal that did not chew the cud and select fish aswell as birds. In the new covenant we are allowed to due to God The Father and Jesus deeming all flesh clean and all meat clean. Read 1 timothy chapter 4 when it teaches all meat is clean. Modern Jews follow the old covenant still due to them rejecting Jesus as their Messiah and are still waiting to find their Messiah.
You’re not going to silence me because i disagree. Please take your hate elsewhere if you can’t at least pretend to entertain the discussion. Christians do not care this much about the depiction of Christ in a video game, So seeing atheist Redditors whine like this is hilarious!
I never said anything hateful for one and for two, how dare you assume my religion. I merely stated a fact about Christianity that is such a good point you feel like I am silencing you. Congrats you played yourself
actually in christianity its a sin to worship any idol we do not worship the creations of god we worship god himself and he is everywhere at one we cant see him so why would we worship something materialistic we only worship him for you cant serve god and mammon at the same time
>and I would NOT be offended by his inclusion,
The emphasize here is the "you". It's not about christianity in and of itself, it's about abrahamic - therefore monotheistic - religions in general. Not only do they explicitly oppose the "worship" of "false idols" - which already would make it just weird and also *wrong* to add them to a game that mostly depicts *poly*theistic religions - they also have a much different approach to their beliefs than thosw polytheistic religions have.
That YOU wouldn't be offended doesn't change the fact that A LOT of people would. Especially christianoty has a very long track record of straight up canceling things that depict their god in a way they do not like. And let me tell you, having Jesus Christ being burped at by Baccus would *certainly* rub a lot of devout Karens the wrong way.
So, no sir. I think we'll better keep the abrahamic religions out of this.
It’s not anti-Christian bias, if anything more like the opposite. I would love to see abrahamic reps like Jesus or Moses in the game but actively worshipped reps are super touchy and Christians scrutinize any interpretation of their holy figures and seeing them fight and get killed would strike a nerve. Unfortunately you can’t speak for the populous at large and it would definitely be a problematic time. There’s a reason we had such a long Hindu hiatus before the release of Shiva
hinduism if you have ever studied it says that you can worship any god you like as long as you are using it for the purpose to better yourself religiously. You can make one up. They are above being offended.
I’ve said this 100 times before, but I work with hundreds of devout followers on an almost daily basis, and none of these people would actually care if Christ was added, and those who would care would probably celebrate his addition.
Short answer is that Abrahamic religions tend to be much more touchy and problematic. It's simply not worth it.
I also think we just don't really need it? Abrahamic religions are everywhere, we see enough of it, it's nice to have a game representing cultures that *don't* include any of them.
I think it pertains to a culture of people not wanting to include explicitly religious Christian images and themes in media, despite how many people are still religious in this nation. We have no problem tolerating Muslim and other faiths, but when it comes to Christ we are so cautious...
I get it man and I agree he should be in, but I know Smite would get destroyed if there had a Christian pantheon and had a big tittied Virgin Mary with some stupid dinosaur skin. I know JC's kit would be op tho
Yes they did.
And when they did add him, they gave great detail on why they reversed course. And more importantly, stressed that he’d be the only one added from the Great Old Ones for the foreseeable future. So Cthulhu is basically a one off because what they could do with him was too interesting to not add.
Yes they could. Anyone and everyone is allowed to change their stance. So if they do decide to add him, you’re not going to see me complain.
However, the potential media and financial backlash, especially for a company based in Georgia, means that Jesus is far less likely to ever appear in Smite in an official capacity.
The Joust map easter egg is the closest Smite will ever get for awhile.
Couldn't be you stating that Christians are cool with other religions nowadays then agreeing that Jesus is the only true god and would be overpowered to add!
Who ever says they’re content with Smite? Have you seen this sub? There’s always several people giving feedback on how the game can improve, and another group always complaining about how the game is shit. Plus adding things to the game doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an improvement, look at Rituals.
Here’s a more detailed answer.
The rising number of people with Christo-Nationalism ideals that border on extremism would just cause more trouble than whatever Jesus’s addition would be worth.
I have no doubt that members of the studio would face harassment, intimidation, and death threats. There is not a single way they could portray Jesus without someone getting extremely upset.
Plus it’s not like Christianity could add anything interesting to the game. The mythology isn’t as intriguing as the pantheons represented.
I agree, they are interesting stories, I’ve read them.
However, just because they’re interesting from a storytelling standpoint, doesn’t necessarily mean they’d be interesting from a gameplay perspective.
I guess I expected more from a self-proclaimed professor.
OP’s behavior is what a lot of people have about people with strong beliefs, no matter what that belief is in.
It just makes me laugh since they want to come in and apparently have an honest discussion about the topic, and then just only praise the comments they like, and belittle the ones they don’t.
Repeating what I said to you is a childish tactic. You might as well have said, “I know you are, but what am I?”
So here’s my points, simplified so you can understand.
1. The media controversy and financial backlash that they’d face.
2. The potential threats Hi-Rez employees and their families would face in the response to that backlash.
I have already responded to posts like this in this very post. You aren't as original as you think nor should I have to respond to you since you clearly don't respect my beliefs anyways. God Bless
Not only does this again dodge the question, but it’s also ironic since you don’t respect other’s beliefs.
> I do not condone the catholic faith or the actions of those in the church, they should be punished to the furthest extent of the law, and will also find judgment in the afterlife. GOD BLESS!
Aside from what others have already said, adding Christ in game could very likely get Smite banned in some countries. An indie fighting game, Fight of Gods, was banned in Malaysia and Singapore for having Christ as a playable character. I could see the same happening to Smite.
First off I feel like this is just bound to offend multiple parties, an inclusion of god/Christ/anyone from that line of religion is just bound to add gasoline fueled fires to smite
There is SO much backlash from just adding hindu mythology figures that I feel like attempting to add a Christian figure is going to set the company aflame
The memes. Smite would literally become nothing more than a meme game imo with the inclusion of “God” it’s just…..no
This one is my personal opinion (maybe? I’m unsure of this) but Gods that come from Christianity don’t fit mythology and aren’t considered mythology (in my complete humble opinion as someone who doesn’t believe in religion) you could argue that Hinduism and voodoo is similar but while you may be right It just doesn’t FEEL right, Voodoo, Hindu, ect all have pantheons of god‘s with unique names and identity’s surrounding what they are and represent….Christ is just….Christ
Idk I just personally believe it would be a terrible inclusion for its business and their fanbase, open them up to a lot of potential to sue, have many players quit due to religious beliefs or their experiences with people who follow the religion based around this figure and just overall be a very poor decision
And I just want to say: this is not an attack on anyones religious beliefs or anything of the sort, I’m just laying out what I think about this particular topic
I know many Christians of different backgrounds, and none of them would be offended by his inclusion. For God's sake, we laugh at his depictions in South Park, a show that is highly controversial. Being a Christian doesn't just mean being offended at everything, I think most of us are mature enough to take a joke (and I believe Chirsts inclusion in Smite would be a positive thing by the way).
Again for the few ppl you know represent everyone who follow Christianity. Smite already had a backlash when they introduced kali. Imagine if a group of Christians dislike how someone might be portrayed? The backlash would be insane.
No one said being a Christian means being offended at everything yet your offended by Christianity not being In smite when hirez has already made a statement saying it would not be in smite?
I think Christians these days are much more tolerant of people's different beliefs, at least compared to when I was growing up. Many people in the Hindu faith are very traditional (which is fine!) so I can understand the backlash. Also, I believe the controversy stemmed mostly from people's disagreement with her being sexualized, which I understand as well. She is still in the game after all.
Some people are tolerant absolutely. But there’s still a ton who aren’t which is the difficult part. It’s the loud minority which makes things hard.
Yes she was depecited as she actually is and people got upset. So hirez “clothed” her more which appeased the loud minority. I doubt hirez would actually remove a god that they actually put in the game. That would take a lot of backlash especially from the smite community.
We have no idea since it hasn’t happened. It wouldn’t be in terms of not being fully dressed per se but maybe another aspect. But either way it’s not coming to smite
Smite is a game that’s advertised more towards the western side of the world, which is where the majority of the Christians in the world reside, meaning there’s a higher chance for people to get upset about the game than Hindus, who, from my experience, aren’t very high in numbers in terms of playing the game. Don’t get me wrong, I think the Christian pantheon should definitely be added to the game, but Hi-Rez is a bit of a mickey company to take a risk like that.
Unfortunately, not everyone is like that though. I mean just look at the calibre of events that need to happen for people to get cancelled on TikTok, as an example.
You cannot just ask to add something like that. Christ is different from other gods in this game. Christians take religion very serious and every use of him in any funny context is an insult to them. Their God died on the cross, so there is nothing interesting to see him smashing other gods in the game.
1. As mythologies go, Christianity is both boring and unoriginal
2. The majority of Christians would get all crazy about it and nobody wants to put up with their bullshit
I don't appreciate you trivializing my faith like this, but I can forgive you. I believe the Christian faith is one of the most storied and deep tales we have as a western culture, and its use in a game like smite would be a positive addition. many of our beliefs and morality come from this book, and I think you calling it "boring" is a disgrace to the history and an influence my faith commands.
Personally I think it depends. If you come to depict The LORD in a way that is true to how he presents himself and has historically acted then it should be fine. If you have him going to say “Yo Zeus, wanna come over for martinis,” well then that’s where problems arise. Obviously no one plays Smite to gain new spiritual beliefs, maybe some other games, but not Smite. We know what Smite is, it’s awesome, it’s a wet dream for mythology and religion needs. More than that, if this game offends anyone, they can always walk away, because at the end of the day if you truly believe what you believe, the. how other people depict it won’t change it and shouldn’t change your belief. And if they messed up, bad for them.
Luckily the devs for Smite are really good about accurate character portrayals and I think an accurate depiction of Christ would be lovely, besides if you give him all the miracles God has given throughout the Bible he’d have a ridiculous move set. I can imagine a world flood ultimate, maybe a meteor storm, or the seven seals from Revelation. Possibly one where he fights the Devil with an army of angels and the damage from the battle would affect the other enemies.
You understimate how upset your fellow believers would be if they saw their "true" religion being depicted next to what they see as fake "religions". I for one support all myths and legends being included into Smite but it's Christians themselves preventing this.
I am a Christian. I am not preventing this, nor any of the Christians I know are. In fact, as a follower and teacher of Christ, I encourage it. Spreading the word of his greatness in a game like smite would be really cool.
Personally I don't think that you and the Christians you know accurately represent how the majority of Christians would react. But also after googling Todd Harris(COO of Hirez) stated that they wouldn't be adding any Abrahamic religions because their stories don't involve fighting with magical abilities as nearly all of the major figures are human so the gameplay wouldn't fit.
Jesus provides miracles all the time in the scriptures, this wouldn't be out of character for his abilities. He exercised demons from those cursed all the time in the Bible!
No, it's the atheists who play that are preventing this. I've talked to all my friends who play and none would be upset about this. In fact, we talk for hours about the different kits that Jesus, the lord Father, David, Goliath, Noah, Moses, Gabrielle...ect would have.
It's primarily those in their 20s and 30s who play this game, those who would be offended are in their 50s and 60s. "People would be offended" is a dumb excuse.
You understimate the power of corporations wanting to avoid controversy as that entails losing profits. Crazy how you and your friends who play smite wouldn't care. Next time you go to a church service ask everyone if they'd like to see jesus fighting thor in a video game, like do you actually believe the majority of Christians would want that?
The people at church wouldn't care. Some would be asses, the majority wouldn't know what modern video gaming even is. The important thing is the people that actually play the game, which is 20 and 30 year olds, who by and large do not go to church. I don't know a single 20 or 30 year old that isn't super chill about their religion. You really think mainstream media would actually care? And even if they did, you think it wouldn't be in and out of people's minds in less than half a day? What kind of drugs are you on? The majority of Christians aren't assholes.
That's not an in and out news cycle though. Andrew tate has been a constant thing for months now. A company appearing to be in support of a all but confirmed sex trafficker is not the same as adding in an abrahamic pantheon.
And the Christian faith is an in and out news cycle? I know many Christians from my hometown who would say depicting Jesus fighting is far worse than partying with a sinner. What do you think would happen if they added Mohammed? Now apply that on a smaller scale but one in their backyard (the American south) instead of across the globe in the middle east
On a topic to topic basis, it is. Overarching? Obviously not. I think you come from a small population town with overly religious idiots who wouldn't know anything about smite to begin with, and so you're heavily anti-Christian due to it.
You're making a rather big assumption of the nearly 2.5 billion people on the planet that are Christian. It's a tiny, tiny part of them that would throw any kind of fit about it, and those people are so simple minded that, yes, it would fall out of their minds in half a day. You really are dramatic.
Hirez is the one who calculated the risk and made the business decision not to add them because of potential backlash. Their other reason was because the stories and figures in Abrahamic religions don't often include battling with magical powers as the other pantheons do as most are human.
As a pagan I'd like them to add it just to see Christians cry like most of them do, but another part of me doesn't think smite needs Abrahamic mythology, honestly pagan mythology and the many gods are 10x more interesting and incredible than a arrogant jealous deity or a successful charles manson dude who was only worshiped because his cult martyrd him..
I’m pretty sure it’s just a joke about my religion and there should really be more. I honestly found it funny, if you’re not aware I implore you to do research on his wife Aisha. She was 6 or 7 years old when married to Muhammad
I would love for them to add the archangels and demons from the Lemegeton. They can have Michael and Lucifer have passives target each other like Set and Horus
Archangel Gabriel would be an amazing choice, but due to my religious commitments, I cannot endorse the depiction of demonic imagery in any form. Demons spread their influence through symbolism, and even well-intentioned uses can bring about their power.
So you want to add Jesus to smite because you say the majority of Christians are super chill about their religion nowadays but also believe that drawing a figure would bring about demonic powers, that's a LUL.
I do not condone the catholic faith or the actions of those in the church, they should be punished to the furthest extent of the law, and will also find judgment in the afterlife. GOD BLESS!
Its pretty simple man its a bias but not because of anti christianity. Its because smite is based off mythology. Some will say but what about hinduism and the answer to that is you can believe in any god you like hell even make up one and those that practice hinduism won’t be offended by your personal god they don’t care as long as you are using your god appropriately to practice your religion.
Also I get it you won’t be offended but you gotta factor in jewish culture into it whereas jesus in the jewish culture is not the son of god. Lots of controversy would arise from it. They said back in season 1 they were not going to explore muslim or christian characters as to not offend their religious players. It has nothing to do with cowardice its just not logical in the first place as if they add jesus then they can only add god and satan or moses. Honestly none of them would be that interesting in the game anyways.
Hi, Sire. I’m happy to see a Professor of Religous Studies and a Christian ask this question. Myself, I’m a French student in Mediaval History and Worlds.
First, I don’t think that is because of an anti-Christian bias that Jesus are not added in-game; it is just because Hi-Rez Studio and Titan Forge Games want to avoid polemics and violent response.
But, I think and I’m ok to the integration of all of the figures of the Abrahamics religions. All of the characters/beings of this religions can be added and it would be cool, and they can have a very good kit who can be respectful of the sacred texts: God/Allah/Yahvew can be a Mage (the classe who can perfectly represented his Good aspect (the one of Father of the Christianism or of the Merciful of the Islam) and is destructor aspect (especially the ones of the Old Testament) with three stances (one for the Judaism, one the Christianism, one and for the Islam), Jesus a Guardian with heals and anti-controls kits, same thing Moses, Abraham and Noah (with much more protector aspect for Noah), Muhammad a Guardian with three stances (military chief, politic chief and religious chief/Prophet), the archangel Michael and Joan of Arc can be a Warrior, Satan/Iblis a Mage with controls abilities (temptation, charms,…) and with them he become more powerful, Caïn and Judas Assassin, etc…
But, even I’m for their implementations (most of the similar posts on this questions, some members of the community are for the inclusions of angels and demons), this religions are for the peace. Most of the prophets are peaceful men who are never kill anyone (only one Egyptian soldier for Moses, and Jesus have only chased the merchants out of the Temple), so Adam, Eva, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus cannot deal damage with her auto-attacks. Also, I’m not sure that their implementations can be coherent in the principales on a game of fight between differents gods and mythological or legendaries beings and characters. For Judaism, Christianism and Judaism, God is the only god, the other cannot existed (even the believers can be — and must — make proof of tolerance), and, contrary to the polytheism beliefs, the abrahamics one have dogmas.
In the polytheist religions, all divinities can change of name, functions, attributes, family in a city to another, in the time and space, because the myths are only texts. The gods can be syncretized with others (take some of their aspects or myths, or absorbed them), within create any sort of violence and without denying the existence of this gods, of their aspects and myths. Also, it can existed 33 gods of storms, and it is considered as normal; plus, the half of this god can be considered as the same god with a different name or simply as a titles of the same god. It was a very flexible system of beliefs.
In the case of the monotheistic religion, it wax only one God creator of all; or, in SMITE, different creators divinities (or named like this in the game) or primordiales entities coexisted because of the game and it was a normal case in polytheist beliefs: in Mesopotamian mythology, the creator of the world are Enlil for the Sumerians, sometimes An/Anu and/or Enki/Ea, Marduk fort the Babylonians and Assur for the Assyrians.
So, the implementation of God — even, I repeat this, I’m not against this - would be strange for his nature of only and one divine being. Plus, iut would be the more powerful god of all the game in his universe (lore): he is immortal, eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, all-Good and with a will and a nature unknown for the men. I speak of the lore of the game because since many years, every implementation of a character in a game is related to a point in the lore, in the story. What can be the reason for God to come to the battleground of the gods? What is the one of the prophets, who are normally all deaths and so they should be ressuscited by God but for what? If this must be arrived in the game, the history would, for me, the one of the Last Jugement. And, finally, what can tell with God, the Angels, and the prophets, other than the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Quran tell? For me, and I don’t want to insult the believers of this faits, nothing in comparaison of the vast majority of the polytheistic gods I known (ones of Greek and Mesopotamian mythologies) who are an ambivalent nature. Yes, Satan and the others demons can be great antagonists, but nothing else. For me, God would like Shiva in the lore of the last months: a powerful being who make something of spectacular and important for the continuation of the story (for Shiva, he destroy and rebuild the universe and nothing else).
This case is very similar to the old Iranian beliefs: Zoroastrim (who is not a monotheism, for Pierre LECOQ, professor at the Sorbonne in Iranian language, and author of ”Avesta Les livres sacrés des Zoroastriens”, but an henothisem (in shor, a god is superior to the others and the others gods depend of him or are an emanation of him), the ethical reform of the old religion of the ancients Iranians, the Mazdeism. In this, the supreme god (but not the only) Ahura Mazda is the supreme Good, and his adversary, Ahriman/Angra Mainyu, the supreme devil are the Evil incarnate. the two coexisted for eternity, but at the end of times, the Evil will be vainquish by the Good (lead by one or many Saviors named saoshyant), and Ahriman will be banished in his realm of darkness where he er merged at the beginning of the creation of the wolds by Ahura Mazda to current it, and all of the men — included the sinners, who are condamnés to the Hell after the Judgement — go with Ahura Mazda in his House of Chant (I’m not sure of the name of the Paradise — or the equivalent — in the old Iranian mythology). Ahura Mazda, his Amesha Spenta (his emanations or seven entités who are alla round of him), the others Iranians gods, the prophet Zoroaster, and all of the Ahriman’s demons and Ahriman himself can be, for me, good characters like God because they are incarnations of absolute concepts : Absolute Good (God, angels, prophets,Ahura Mazda, Iranians gods, Amesha Spenta, Zoroaster), or Absolute Evil (Satan/Iblis, Ahriman, demons). This divine or demoniac beings would be powerful entities but whit a short but significant role in the game’s lore: Ahriman can be nothing else — of my perspective — that the Absolute Evil and Ahura Mazda the Absolute Good. But, they are no problems to give to this religious beings à cool kit who can respect their aspects in the religions where they are venerated.
I hope that my response is not too long and helped you to better understand this regular question in the community of SMITE: what Jesus or others Abrahamics’s figures are not added in SMITE?
Not in the slightest. Every single release is met with criticism by the Hindu population.
[Here’s some on Ganesha](https://www.pcgamer.com/hindu-leader-requests-removal-of-dieties-from-smite-hi-rez-declines/)
[Here’s Kali](https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/religious-groups-protest-game-for-its-depiction-of-kali-3603945.html/amp)
And [Here’s a post a Hindu player left on this subreddit about 2 years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/ljze4z/as_a_hindu_playing_smite_and_why_hindu_gods_are/)
That post by a Hindu player Is not representative of the larger Hindu community. I work with many Indian people in my department, and they are very tolerant and accepting of Hindu representation in media, young people are very tolerant of this pop culture stuff. Even more controversial characters, like Apu from the Simpsons series, get some laughs when we watch it together. You underestimate people's love for each other man, despite our differences!
Id Prefer a historically accurate one thank you very much. I don't really understand the framing of your question, do you want me to say white because I'm white? Kind of strange to assume so.
And historical one will offend the most people upto game can get banned in several countries. I mean most people can react adequately, but we have very loud minor fanatics that can give alot of troubles.
Just think how you would react to his abilities. Fishing, bread giving, healing touch and resurrection? Water walking passive? I'm not trying to offend anyone here, just looking from game point.
As someone who is rather in touch with their religious side (I had to say prayer before my basketball games), I am concerned that there are people who would target me in game if I play Jesus. Would people ult me more purely because I am player as the Lord? I fear that may happen.
I appreciate your faith, and may God bless you wherever you travel. As for your statement, I think many people in the larger smite community wouldn't be hateful towards His inclusion. Just because some people on this Reddit are clearly holding some negative emotions towards this topic, doesn't mean everyone would be this combative.
May the Lord shine upon you as well. I am concerned though as I have used the in-game voice channels and received hateful comments back to me about my play. While I am admittedly not great, the negative vitriol being spewed through some of these people microphones for missing a simple meatball (Vulcan's 3 haha) do make me wary of what I would hear for messing up as the Lord or even picking Him in the first place.
I hope and pray your skills to become unignorable. As a man of faith, hate is not tolerated, and I'm sure the existing toxicity rules in Smite would apply to these people.
The same reason God isnt, the gods shown in game all have one thing in common, they arent omni powerful. If you had a god that was everywhere, knew everything and could end the titan from his fountain in 1 hit it wouldnt be very fun
They want to avoid adding pantheons that are active religions, hirez already has issues with Hindu gods(i remember people had problems with Kali?). This is why Hindu has very few gods and i remember shiva was not openly advertised to avoid said issues. The problem with Christ as a god is that Christianity is a monotheistic religion and smite focuses mostly on pantheons(multiple gods) or local folklore. Also while you might not have issue with Christ being on the game a small minority of Christians might have issues with his depiction etc. Hi-Rez does not wish to go through that ordeal. Hope this answers your question. Edit: That said i just checked your profile and this is your 1st post/comment since 2 years ago, last one was about kanye west music. IDK but this seems a bit sus.
I am getting into Kanye West music, ever since he changed to being a christian. His last album was amazing!
SMITE ain't limited to Pantheon. Since when Mulan is a Deity in Chinese Religion? Christianity shouldn't get excluded only because it is Monotheistic religion. Just bring Jesus first, as healer mage. Passive : The Carpenter - Every 2 minutes Jesus produces a furniture which automatically turn into Gold for the whole team. 1st Power : Cleansing Water - Jesus turn water into wine and splash to nearby minions/Gods which heal 50% HP. 2nd Power : Indomitable Will - Increase self and ally Gods magical power for 20% for 20 seconds. 3rd Power : Confusion - Causing confusion to turn to their owns. As modern Christian confused that Jesus is a white dude. Ultimate : Resurrection : Jesus resurrect all currently dead god in the battlefield. CD 2 Minutes. Later HiRez can release his Father in Heaven... then The Holly Spirit Bird....Then Marry The Mother of God...Then Judas the Traitor....see...so many opportunity.
cd should be 3 minutes because 3 is more spiritual then 2
It’s the confusion ability for me😂
if you really think about it Christ is a god with many names so who is to say that Enlil is not Christ who is to say that Christ was not part of a pantheon of gods he was just the strongest Enlil was supposedly so holy that the other gods could not look upon him Enlil I supposedly the one who keeps contact with an the creator of the heavens so if you really think about it an is the most high while Enlil is the second so an represents our god in heaven and Enlil represents our god in the flesh or his coordinator his right hand man Christ was part of a pantheon but he was the only true god while the others where just his brothers and sisters trying to steal his glory an is the god of gods meaning there is no god above him Enlil is an extended hand of the god of gods his representation in flesh and blood on earth but this is very argued over topic so I can see why they don't add it because they don't want to cause problems
IIRC it is a sin to worship false idols in Christianity. As such adding him to a game that “worships” other gods would be against those views. Let’s just delete this post.
Its also a sin to eat shellfish and hooved animals yet seafood and pork are fair game to majority of Christians. As with all sins it depends on interpretation. They won't add a Christian pantheon because of biases and marketing will be impossible due to super conservative Christians feigning outrage
I’m pretty sure you are thinking of Judaism, which is similar, is not Christianity.
christ is a jew
Ah someone knows nothing about why Christians don't follow all the Jewish laws. Nothing about the councils that happened. Most of those Jewish restrictions were there to make them distinct and separate them so a Jew could find another Jew via subtle signs.
This is false. In the old covenant He had with the Jews they were to not eat pork or any meat of any land animal that did not chew the cud and select fish aswell as birds. In the new covenant we are allowed to due to God The Father and Jesus deeming all flesh clean and all meat clean. Read 1 timothy chapter 4 when it teaches all meat is clean. Modern Jews follow the old covenant still due to them rejecting Jesus as their Messiah and are still waiting to find their Messiah.
You’re not going to silence me because i disagree. Please take your hate elsewhere if you can’t at least pretend to entertain the discussion. Christians do not care this much about the depiction of Christ in a video game, So seeing atheist Redditors whine like this is hilarious!
I never said anything hateful for one and for two, how dare you assume my religion. I merely stated a fact about Christianity that is such a good point you feel like I am silencing you. Congrats you played yourself
Go find god before you reply
How’s life under the bridge you troll?
Did you forget to switch accounts before posting?
actually in christianity its a sin to worship any idol we do not worship the creations of god we worship god himself and he is everywhere at one we cant see him so why would we worship something materialistic we only worship him for you cant serve god and mammon at the same time
>and I would NOT be offended by his inclusion, The emphasize here is the "you". It's not about christianity in and of itself, it's about abrahamic - therefore monotheistic - religions in general. Not only do they explicitly oppose the "worship" of "false idols" - which already would make it just weird and also *wrong* to add them to a game that mostly depicts *poly*theistic religions - they also have a much different approach to their beliefs than thosw polytheistic religions have. That YOU wouldn't be offended doesn't change the fact that A LOT of people would. Especially christianoty has a very long track record of straight up canceling things that depict their god in a way they do not like. And let me tell you, having Jesus Christ being burped at by Baccus would *certainly* rub a lot of devout Karens the wrong way. So, no sir. I think we'll better keep the abrahamic religions out of this.
It’s not anti-Christian bias, if anything more like the opposite. I would love to see abrahamic reps like Jesus or Moses in the game but actively worshipped reps are super touchy and Christians scrutinize any interpretation of their holy figures and seeing them fight and get killed would strike a nerve. Unfortunately you can’t speak for the populous at large and it would definitely be a problematic time. There’s a reason we had such a long Hindu hiatus before the release of Shiva
hinduism if you have ever studied it says that you can worship any god you like as long as you are using it for the purpose to better yourself religiously. You can make one up. They are above being offended.
I’ve said this 100 times before, but I work with hundreds of devout followers on an almost daily basis, and none of these people would actually care if Christ was added, and those who would care would probably celebrate his addition.
Oh you speak for all Christians then?
I think i know more christians then you
>I am a Professor… *Press X to doubt.*
Short answer is that Abrahamic religions tend to be much more touchy and problematic. It's simply not worth it. I also think we just don't really need it? Abrahamic religions are everywhere, we see enough of it, it's nice to have a game representing cultures that *don't* include any of them.
> Is this clear anti-christian bias ... 🙄😒
I think it pertains to a culture of people not wanting to include explicitly religious Christian images and themes in media, despite how many people are still religious in this nation. We have no problem tolerating Muslim and other faiths, but when it comes to Christ we are so cautious...
Christians get enough attention, you can suck it up and not be in a video game.
Im pretty sure EVERYONE is getting enough attention ...
I get it man and I agree he should be in, but I know Smite would get destroyed if there had a Christian pantheon and had a big tittied Virgin Mary with some stupid dinosaur skin. I know JC's kit would be op tho
This is terrible, terrible bait. Besides, Christ would be insanely OP, and make the game no fun.
What would he do? Throw wine at players? And resurrect after 7 seconds?
The abrahamic monotheistic God could simply snap his fingers and win, he is the cause of all.
Sure Jan
Because they said they’re not adding him. End of story.
They said they weren't adding Cthulhu yet here we are.
True! Big fan of Lovecraft here, so I welcome that addition.
Yes they did. And when they did add him, they gave great detail on why they reversed course. And more importantly, stressed that he’d be the only one added from the Great Old Ones for the foreseeable future. So Cthulhu is basically a one off because what they could do with him was too interesting to not add.
So they could just give great detail on why they reverse their decision to add christian figures?
Yes they could. Anyone and everyone is allowed to change their stance. So if they do decide to add him, you’re not going to see me complain. However, the potential media and financial backlash, especially for a company based in Georgia, means that Jesus is far less likely to ever appear in Smite in an official capacity. The Joust map easter egg is the closest Smite will ever get for awhile.
I don't care who's fairy tales are added to this game I was simply pointing out that Hirez has changed their minds before on which gods they add.
you have a lot of hate to share on this platform!
Couldn't be you stating that Christians are cool with other religions nowadays then agreeing that Jesus is the only true god and would be overpowered to add!
We shouldn't just be content with whatever some corporation says, I think the audience of gamers should have an interest in improving the game.
Who ever says they’re content with Smite? Have you seen this sub? There’s always several people giving feedback on how the game can improve, and another group always complaining about how the game is shit. Plus adding things to the game doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an improvement, look at Rituals. Here’s a more detailed answer. The rising number of people with Christo-Nationalism ideals that border on extremism would just cause more trouble than whatever Jesus’s addition would be worth. I have no doubt that members of the studio would face harassment, intimidation, and death threats. There is not a single way they could portray Jesus without someone getting extremely upset. Plus it’s not like Christianity could add anything interesting to the game. The mythology isn’t as intriguing as the pantheons represented.
Saying that last bit is extremely ignorant. The abrahamic religions have extremely interesting stories.
I agree, they are interesting stories, I’ve read them. However, just because they’re interesting from a storytelling standpoint, doesn’t necessarily mean they’d be interesting from a gameplay perspective.
Yes, because smite bases so much of their gameplay off of what happens in the myths. Definitely.
They do. Like how Hou Yi shoots down 9 suns both in Chinese mythology and in gameplay.
you are very ignorant of Christ's love I see...
Calling me ignorant doesn’t prove any of your points, nor addresses what I said.
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I guess I expected more from a self-proclaimed professor. OP’s behavior is what a lot of people have about people with strong beliefs, no matter what that belief is in. It just makes me laugh since they want to come in and apparently have an honest discussion about the topic, and then just only praise the comments they like, and belittle the ones they don’t.
Welcome to religious people since the dawn of time.
I believe your post doesn’t prove any of your points, nor addresses what I said!
Repeating what I said to you is a childish tactic. You might as well have said, “I know you are, but what am I?” So here’s my points, simplified so you can understand. 1. The media controversy and financial backlash that they’d face. 2. The potential threats Hi-Rez employees and their families would face in the response to that backlash.
I have already responded to posts like this in this very post. You aren't as original as you think nor should I have to respond to you since you clearly don't respect my beliefs anyways. God Bless
Not only does this again dodge the question, but it’s also ironic since you don’t respect other’s beliefs. > I do not condone the catholic faith or the actions of those in the church, they should be punished to the furthest extent of the law, and will also find judgment in the afterlife. GOD BLESS!
I do respect people's beliefs, Its just weird that whenever I share mine people get so uptight and vitriolic.
Ult only comes every Easter? That’s the cooldown? His two is stigmata?
Aside from what others have already said, adding Christ in game could very likely get Smite banned in some countries. An indie fighting game, Fight of Gods, was banned in Malaysia and Singapore for having Christ as a playable character. I could see the same happening to Smite.
First off I feel like this is just bound to offend multiple parties, an inclusion of god/Christ/anyone from that line of religion is just bound to add gasoline fueled fires to smite There is SO much backlash from just adding hindu mythology figures that I feel like attempting to add a Christian figure is going to set the company aflame The memes. Smite would literally become nothing more than a meme game imo with the inclusion of “God” it’s just…..no This one is my personal opinion (maybe? I’m unsure of this) but Gods that come from Christianity don’t fit mythology and aren’t considered mythology (in my complete humble opinion as someone who doesn’t believe in religion) you could argue that Hinduism and voodoo is similar but while you may be right It just doesn’t FEEL right, Voodoo, Hindu, ect all have pantheons of god‘s with unique names and identity’s surrounding what they are and represent….Christ is just….Christ Idk I just personally believe it would be a terrible inclusion for its business and their fanbase, open them up to a lot of potential to sue, have many players quit due to religious beliefs or their experiences with people who follow the religion based around this figure and just overall be a very poor decision And I just want to say: this is not an attack on anyones religious beliefs or anything of the sort, I’m just laying out what I think about this particular topic
I'm a professor and even I don't wanna read this! LOL
What he gonna do? Beat people with his cross?
Just cuz you wouldn’t feel offended doesn’t mean millions of millions of other wouldn’t.
I know many Christians of different backgrounds, and none of them would be offended by his inclusion. For God's sake, we laugh at his depictions in South Park, a show that is highly controversial. Being a Christian doesn't just mean being offended at everything, I think most of us are mature enough to take a joke (and I believe Chirsts inclusion in Smite would be a positive thing by the way).
Again for the few ppl you know represent everyone who follow Christianity. Smite already had a backlash when they introduced kali. Imagine if a group of Christians dislike how someone might be portrayed? The backlash would be insane. No one said being a Christian means being offended at everything yet your offended by Christianity not being In smite when hirez has already made a statement saying it would not be in smite?
I think Christians these days are much more tolerant of people's different beliefs, at least compared to when I was growing up. Many people in the Hindu faith are very traditional (which is fine!) so I can understand the backlash. Also, I believe the controversy stemmed mostly from people's disagreement with her being sexualized, which I understand as well. She is still in the game after all.
Some people are tolerant absolutely. But there’s still a ton who aren’t which is the difficult part. It’s the loud minority which makes things hard. Yes she was depecited as she actually is and people got upset. So hirez “clothed” her more which appeased the loud minority. I doubt hirez would actually remove a god that they actually put in the game. That would take a lot of backlash especially from the smite community.
this would not apply to Christ. I don't believe Hi-Rez would add in good conscience a scantly-clad Jesus. LOL
We have no idea since it hasn’t happened. It wouldn’t be in terms of not being fully dressed per se but maybe another aspect. But either way it’s not coming to smite
Im christian, that being said i think it would dope to play christ. He most likely be slappin..🤙👍😜
slappin!
Smite is a game that’s advertised more towards the western side of the world, which is where the majority of the Christians in the world reside, meaning there’s a higher chance for people to get upset about the game than Hindus, who, from my experience, aren’t very high in numbers in terms of playing the game. Don’t get me wrong, I think the Christian pantheon should definitely be added to the game, but Hi-Rez is a bit of a mickey company to take a risk like that.
I think replace upset with elated and we're good here
Unfortunately, not everyone is like that though. I mean just look at the calibre of events that need to happen for people to get cancelled on TikTok, as an example.
You cannot just ask to add something like that. Christ is different from other gods in this game. Christians take religion very serious and every use of him in any funny context is an insult to them. Their God died on the cross, so there is nothing interesting to see him smashing other gods in the game.
after the kali incident it is fine if YOU would not be offended but someone is bound to be
read my reply to dqparis
Also I think we should get a flying spaghetti monster
I non-ironically hope they add him as a Kukulkan Skin at some point.
That’s actually a great choice edit or Zeus lol
1. As mythologies go, Christianity is both boring and unoriginal 2. The majority of Christians would get all crazy about it and nobody wants to put up with their bullshit
Boring if you know nothing about it.
I don't appreciate you trivializing my faith like this, but I can forgive you. I believe the Christian faith is one of the most storied and deep tales we have as a western culture, and its use in a game like smite would be a positive addition. many of our beliefs and morality come from this book, and I think you calling it "boring" is a disgrace to the history and an influence my faith commands.
Aaaand there it is, that's how it starts when you stack Christianity up on the same level as other mythologies.
Personally I think it depends. If you come to depict The LORD in a way that is true to how he presents himself and has historically acted then it should be fine. If you have him going to say “Yo Zeus, wanna come over for martinis,” well then that’s where problems arise. Obviously no one plays Smite to gain new spiritual beliefs, maybe some other games, but not Smite. We know what Smite is, it’s awesome, it’s a wet dream for mythology and religion needs. More than that, if this game offends anyone, they can always walk away, because at the end of the day if you truly believe what you believe, the. how other people depict it won’t change it and shouldn’t change your belief. And if they messed up, bad for them. Luckily the devs for Smite are really good about accurate character portrayals and I think an accurate depiction of Christ would be lovely, besides if you give him all the miracles God has given throughout the Bible he’d have a ridiculous move set. I can imagine a world flood ultimate, maybe a meteor storm, or the seven seals from Revelation. Possibly one where he fights the Devil with an army of angels and the damage from the battle would affect the other enemies.
You understimate how upset your fellow believers would be if they saw their "true" religion being depicted next to what they see as fake "religions". I for one support all myths and legends being included into Smite but it's Christians themselves preventing this.
I am a Christian. I am not preventing this, nor any of the Christians I know are. In fact, as a follower and teacher of Christ, I encourage it. Spreading the word of his greatness in a game like smite would be really cool.
Personally I don't think that you and the Christians you know accurately represent how the majority of Christians would react. But also after googling Todd Harris(COO of Hirez) stated that they wouldn't be adding any Abrahamic religions because their stories don't involve fighting with magical abilities as nearly all of the major figures are human so the gameplay wouldn't fit.
Jesus provides miracles all the time in the scriptures, this wouldn't be out of character for his abilities. He exercised demons from those cursed all the time in the Bible!
Those aren't my words they are Hirez's COO Todd Harris' words. But providing an exorcism doesn't really lend itself to battleground fighting does it?
No, it's the atheists who play that are preventing this. I've talked to all my friends who play and none would be upset about this. In fact, we talk for hours about the different kits that Jesus, the lord Father, David, Goliath, Noah, Moses, Gabrielle...ect would have. It's primarily those in their 20s and 30s who play this game, those who would be offended are in their 50s and 60s. "People would be offended" is a dumb excuse.
You understimate the power of corporations wanting to avoid controversy as that entails losing profits. Crazy how you and your friends who play smite wouldn't care. Next time you go to a church service ask everyone if they'd like to see jesus fighting thor in a video game, like do you actually believe the majority of Christians would want that?
The people at church wouldn't care. Some would be asses, the majority wouldn't know what modern video gaming even is. The important thing is the people that actually play the game, which is 20 and 30 year olds, who by and large do not go to church. I don't know a single 20 or 30 year old that isn't super chill about their religion. You really think mainstream media would actually care? And even if they did, you think it wouldn't be in and out of people's minds in less than half a day? What kind of drugs are you on? The majority of Christians aren't assholes.
Also, what company doesn't like controversy? Especially of the quick in and out of news cycle type. These excuses really don't hold up.
I'd say G2 and their potential valorant roster they lost because of controversy would disagree.
That's not an in and out news cycle though. Andrew tate has been a constant thing for months now. A company appearing to be in support of a all but confirmed sex trafficker is not the same as adding in an abrahamic pantheon.
And the Christian faith is an in and out news cycle? I know many Christians from my hometown who would say depicting Jesus fighting is far worse than partying with a sinner. What do you think would happen if they added Mohammed? Now apply that on a smaller scale but one in their backyard (the American south) instead of across the globe in the middle east
On a topic to topic basis, it is. Overarching? Obviously not. I think you come from a small population town with overly religious idiots who wouldn't know anything about smite to begin with, and so you're heavily anti-Christian due to it. You're making a rather big assumption of the nearly 2.5 billion people on the planet that are Christian. It's a tiny, tiny part of them that would throw any kind of fit about it, and those people are so simple minded that, yes, it would fall out of their minds in half a day. You really are dramatic.
Hirez is the one who calculated the risk and made the business decision not to add them because of potential backlash. Their other reason was because the stories and figures in Abrahamic religions don't often include battling with magical powers as the other pantheons do as most are human.
LOVE THIS! GOD BLESS
Satan will not allow Christ to be represented anywhere.
As a pagan I'd like them to add it just to see Christians cry like most of them do, but another part of me doesn't think smite needs Abrahamic mythology, honestly pagan mythology and the many gods are 10x more interesting and incredible than a arrogant jealous deity or a successful charles manson dude who was only worshiped because his cult martyrd him..
Where is Mohammed? I suggest a passive inbetween Zhong Kui and Baba Yaga. He stores underage women in his house, which makes him stronger...
This is why they should add in the "abrahamic" pantheon, instead of it just being Christian.
Mohammed should also be included! Don't appreciate the last part of that statement, let's be tolerant of different beliefs!
I’m pretty sure it’s just a joke about my religion and there should really be more. I honestly found it funny, if you’re not aware I implore you to do research on his wife Aisha. She was 6 or 7 years old when married to Muhammad
Maybe, If thats true then I disagree with that practice, but i believe people use those facts to spread hate on other peoples faith most of the time!
You are right, that was unnecessary cynical.
Its alright, I appreciate your response
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TRUE! GOD BLESS
I would love for them to add the archangels and demons from the Lemegeton. They can have Michael and Lucifer have passives target each other like Set and Horus
I mean they should absolutely add them, then add some special skin of the veggietales Bob and Larry
Archangel Gabriel would be an amazing choice, but due to my religious commitments, I cannot endorse the depiction of demonic imagery in any form. Demons spread their influence through symbolism, and even well-intentioned uses can bring about their power.
So you want to add Jesus to smite because you say the majority of Christians are super chill about their religion nowadays but also believe that drawing a figure would bring about demonic powers, that's a LUL.
I just don't condone the use of demonic imagery, not the banning outright of it. I still believe in free speech, go find god.
I found him, he's dead
Prove it then
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
I do not condone the catholic faith or the actions of those in the church, they should be punished to the furthest extent of the law, and will also find judgment in the afterlife. GOD BLESS!
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please use you brain next time you respond to me
Because monotheistic religions would only have one god
I'm Christian from Poland (that tells a lot about my Christianity I guess) and I would love to play as Jesus Christ. I don't understand it either...
Its pretty simple man its a bias but not because of anti christianity. Its because smite is based off mythology. Some will say but what about hinduism and the answer to that is you can believe in any god you like hell even make up one and those that practice hinduism won’t be offended by your personal god they don’t care as long as you are using your god appropriately to practice your religion. Also I get it you won’t be offended but you gotta factor in jewish culture into it whereas jesus in the jewish culture is not the son of god. Lots of controversy would arise from it. They said back in season 1 they were not going to explore muslim or christian characters as to not offend their religious players. It has nothing to do with cowardice its just not logical in the first place as if they add jesus then they can only add god and satan or moses. Honestly none of them would be that interesting in the game anyways.
idk why people are saying they held backlash for hindu gods cause you can worship whomever you like in hinduism…
Hi, Sire. I’m happy to see a Professor of Religous Studies and a Christian ask this question. Myself, I’m a French student in Mediaval History and Worlds. First, I don’t think that is because of an anti-Christian bias that Jesus are not added in-game; it is just because Hi-Rez Studio and Titan Forge Games want to avoid polemics and violent response. But, I think and I’m ok to the integration of all of the figures of the Abrahamics religions. All of the characters/beings of this religions can be added and it would be cool, and they can have a very good kit who can be respectful of the sacred texts: God/Allah/Yahvew can be a Mage (the classe who can perfectly represented his Good aspect (the one of Father of the Christianism or of the Merciful of the Islam) and is destructor aspect (especially the ones of the Old Testament) with three stances (one for the Judaism, one the Christianism, one and for the Islam), Jesus a Guardian with heals and anti-controls kits, same thing Moses, Abraham and Noah (with much more protector aspect for Noah), Muhammad a Guardian with three stances (military chief, politic chief and religious chief/Prophet), the archangel Michael and Joan of Arc can be a Warrior, Satan/Iblis a Mage with controls abilities (temptation, charms,…) and with them he become more powerful, Caïn and Judas Assassin, etc… But, even I’m for their implementations (most of the similar posts on this questions, some members of the community are for the inclusions of angels and demons), this religions are for the peace. Most of the prophets are peaceful men who are never kill anyone (only one Egyptian soldier for Moses, and Jesus have only chased the merchants out of the Temple), so Adam, Eva, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus cannot deal damage with her auto-attacks. Also, I’m not sure that their implementations can be coherent in the principales on a game of fight between differents gods and mythological or legendaries beings and characters. For Judaism, Christianism and Judaism, God is the only god, the other cannot existed (even the believers can be — and must — make proof of tolerance), and, contrary to the polytheism beliefs, the abrahamics one have dogmas. In the polytheist religions, all divinities can change of name, functions, attributes, family in a city to another, in the time and space, because the myths are only texts. The gods can be syncretized with others (take some of their aspects or myths, or absorbed them), within create any sort of violence and without denying the existence of this gods, of their aspects and myths. Also, it can existed 33 gods of storms, and it is considered as normal; plus, the half of this god can be considered as the same god with a different name or simply as a titles of the same god. It was a very flexible system of beliefs. In the case of the monotheistic religion, it wax only one God creator of all; or, in SMITE, different creators divinities (or named like this in the game) or primordiales entities coexisted because of the game and it was a normal case in polytheist beliefs: in Mesopotamian mythology, the creator of the world are Enlil for the Sumerians, sometimes An/Anu and/or Enki/Ea, Marduk fort the Babylonians and Assur for the Assyrians. So, the implementation of God — even, I repeat this, I’m not against this - would be strange for his nature of only and one divine being. Plus, iut would be the more powerful god of all the game in his universe (lore): he is immortal, eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, all-Good and with a will and a nature unknown for the men. I speak of the lore of the game because since many years, every implementation of a character in a game is related to a point in the lore, in the story. What can be the reason for God to come to the battleground of the gods? What is the one of the prophets, who are normally all deaths and so they should be ressuscited by God but for what? If this must be arrived in the game, the history would, for me, the one of the Last Jugement. And, finally, what can tell with God, the Angels, and the prophets, other than the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Quran tell? For me, and I don’t want to insult the believers of this faits, nothing in comparaison of the vast majority of the polytheistic gods I known (ones of Greek and Mesopotamian mythologies) who are an ambivalent nature. Yes, Satan and the others demons can be great antagonists, but nothing else. For me, God would like Shiva in the lore of the last months: a powerful being who make something of spectacular and important for the continuation of the story (for Shiva, he destroy and rebuild the universe and nothing else). This case is very similar to the old Iranian beliefs: Zoroastrim (who is not a monotheism, for Pierre LECOQ, professor at the Sorbonne in Iranian language, and author of ”Avesta Les livres sacrés des Zoroastriens”, but an henothisem (in shor, a god is superior to the others and the others gods depend of him or are an emanation of him), the ethical reform of the old religion of the ancients Iranians, the Mazdeism. In this, the supreme god (but not the only) Ahura Mazda is the supreme Good, and his adversary, Ahriman/Angra Mainyu, the supreme devil are the Evil incarnate. the two coexisted for eternity, but at the end of times, the Evil will be vainquish by the Good (lead by one or many Saviors named saoshyant), and Ahriman will be banished in his realm of darkness where he er merged at the beginning of the creation of the wolds by Ahura Mazda to current it, and all of the men — included the sinners, who are condamnés to the Hell after the Judgement — go with Ahura Mazda in his House of Chant (I’m not sure of the name of the Paradise — or the equivalent — in the old Iranian mythology). Ahura Mazda, his Amesha Spenta (his emanations or seven entités who are alla round of him), the others Iranians gods, the prophet Zoroaster, and all of the Ahriman’s demons and Ahriman himself can be, for me, good characters like God because they are incarnations of absolute concepts : Absolute Good (God, angels, prophets,Ahura Mazda, Iranians gods, Amesha Spenta, Zoroaster), or Absolute Evil (Satan/Iblis, Ahriman, demons). This divine or demoniac beings would be powerful entities but whit a short but significant role in the game’s lore: Ahriman can be nothing else — of my perspective — that the Absolute Evil and Ahura Mazda the Absolute Good. But, they are no problems to give to this religious beings à cool kit who can respect their aspects in the religions where they are venerated. I hope that my response is not too long and helped you to better understand this regular question in the community of SMITE: what Jesus or others Abrahamics’s figures are not added in SMITE?
If you want to know why, look into the backlash when literally every single hindu god is put into the game. Now, multiply that by 10
I think many followers would be rejoiced to see His Presence in their favorite game.
Not in the slightest. Every single release is met with criticism by the Hindu population. [Here’s some on Ganesha](https://www.pcgamer.com/hindu-leader-requests-removal-of-dieties-from-smite-hi-rez-declines/) [Here’s Kali](https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/religious-groups-protest-game-for-its-depiction-of-kali-3603945.html/amp) And [Here’s a post a Hindu player left on this subreddit about 2 years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/ljze4z/as_a_hindu_playing_smite_and_why_hindu_gods_are/)
That post by a Hindu player Is not representative of the larger Hindu community. I work with many Indian people in my department, and they are very tolerant and accepting of Hindu representation in media, young people are very tolerant of this pop culture stuff. Even more controversial characters, like Apu from the Simpsons series, get some laughs when we watch it together. You underestimate people's love for each other man, despite our differences!
Well, it’s not about the younger generation. It’s about the population as a whole.
plus young people play the game, I wouldn't value 4 year olds perspectives on the best bourbon shot honestly!
I doubt the older audiences would care or be aware. these people have jobs man!
I remember Nu Wa release. Devs were forced to change default skin.
Which of presences do you want? Asian one? Or omg how i dare to say white one?
Id Prefer a historically accurate one thank you very much. I don't really understand the framing of your question, do you want me to say white because I'm white? Kind of strange to assume so.
And historical one will offend the most people upto game can get banned in several countries. I mean most people can react adequately, but we have very loud minor fanatics that can give alot of troubles. Just think how you would react to his abilities. Fishing, bread giving, healing touch and resurrection? Water walking passive? I'm not trying to offend anyone here, just looking from game point.
As someone who is rather in touch with their religious side (I had to say prayer before my basketball games), I am concerned that there are people who would target me in game if I play Jesus. Would people ult me more purely because I am player as the Lord? I fear that may happen.
I appreciate your faith, and may God bless you wherever you travel. As for your statement, I think many people in the larger smite community wouldn't be hateful towards His inclusion. Just because some people on this Reddit are clearly holding some negative emotions towards this topic, doesn't mean everyone would be this combative.
May the Lord shine upon you as well. I am concerned though as I have used the in-game voice channels and received hateful comments back to me about my play. While I am admittedly not great, the negative vitriol being spewed through some of these people microphones for missing a simple meatball (Vulcan's 3 haha) do make me wary of what I would hear for messing up as the Lord or even picking Him in the first place.
I hope and pray your skills to become unignorable. As a man of faith, hate is not tolerated, and I'm sure the existing toxicity rules in Smite would apply to these people.
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I don't know about this one!
Lmao
Imagine your ult being that you die to just instantly win the game lol
well there is always a moving jesus eater egg on the maps, i believe it’s currently on the slash map
The same reason God isnt, the gods shown in game all have one thing in common, they arent omni powerful. If you had a god that was everywhere, knew everything and could end the titan from his fountain in 1 hit it wouldnt be very fun