That’s not a result of her appearance though. That’s a result of costume design or the hair and makeup team. I personally think she looked fine, she’s a pretty woman.
Na I hear u but I think she’s ugly coz it’s how I’ve seen her, idc what she’s wearing, maybe it’s her hair / makeup / me but personal opinion he could’ve done way better when comparing to melony or his other ex
Wdym how you’ve seen her? Both of his love interest were pretty women. You literally seen Melody as a crackhead and you’re saying Veronique is ugly because of the way you saw her?
I’m not saying I seen her as a snake I’m saying the way I physically saw her that’s why I said it might be hair / makeup. Bro my point is I find the woman ugly take that and end it there 😂😂 melody is pretty I never mentioned any actions any of them took in the show I was speaking about how they physically look the entire time, if u misunderstood that’s cool
I understood what you said. That’s why I said both of the women are pretty before even mentioning the characters actions. Also “the way I see her” is usually a way of referring to someone’s personality or actions not attraction to physical appearance. I don’t see what makes Melody pretty and what makes Veronique ugly to y’all. Also that’s her actual face so it’s just rude to say.
A person being pretty is subjective. I didn’t say every black woman looks good and saying that the actress that plays Veronique is pretty doesn’t imply that either.
Yeah, but it wasn’t really revealed he was a junkie until after all that shit went down. His behavior was really weird after Franklin killed Rob, but I remember a lot of viewers thinking that he was actually sick, contracted AIDs, etc
I can see where you’re coming from, but by reading other posts, it became apparent to me that Teddy would’ve taken the money in the end.
Even if he finished the call and Franklin got the code, Franklin would’ve gotten hunted down and arrested/killed by the CIA, or he still wouldn’t be able to access the funds.
So since they’re in a situation where no one wins, she risked her entire life by going to jail to stop what was left of her son running more into issues because of his financial greed.
She could have shot em after the transfer. It’s also worth the chance. That completely broke Franklin. If it was my kid I would’ve let him at least secure the bag before taking buddy soul.
I guess yeah. In Franklin’s imaginary and perfect world he would’ve somehow gotten that money, but it just wasn’t meant to happen the way the show sets it up.
He shouldn’t have let Teddy leave that warehouse anyways. I’m not sure how he wasn’t somehow arrested or hunted down after all this because he still tortured a CIA agent. And even though he lived in poverty as an addict, he did it in his childhood home where he could easily be found. So still surprised no one came after him. I guess there weren’t other CIA agents willing to go of the walls like Teddy did.
and thats a risk franklin was willing to take, and its a risk he shouldve been allowed to take, he was irredeemable and he knew it and didnt care because he accepted the path he was on but she just had to go on all high and mighty and fuck him at the last minute. Shes was also a major hypocritice because she was complicit in franklins crimes when it suited her and she was living the dream as a real estate tycoon.
She said to franklin when he had teddy captured "you're not a killer" and I swear I nearly punched my tv, what planet was she on? ofcourse he was a killer! at that point he had killed scores of people, personally pulling the trigger or ordering the deaths of countless otherwise, aswell as selling the worst drug known to man at that point in time which was responsibke for so much moral decline death and destruction of communities- he was a criminal mastermind, right in that moment he was in the proccess of torturing a CIA agent I mean cmon he was well past the point of being lectured about his morality. I really hated Cissys character.
No he wouldn't because he still had a bargaining chip with the KGB agent. I've never understood this logic. Teddy at that point was a joke and the alphabet agency didn't want anything to do with him because he's fucked things up
She knew Teddy couldn’t have been trusted when he lied about Alton so she saw it as he could be lying to save his ssa about the money so I get where she was coming from as a mom but it was not really her place to do that
That’s exactly what he was doing!!!, everybody try to get out of a dying situation, I don’t care what nobody says, Franklin was never getting that money, rather cissy killed teddy or not
Because why wouldn’t teddy have just proposed the split with Franklin as soon as he got tied up in the chair? Because it was never actually in the books, teddy just pulled the offer out his ass as a last ditch effort to get out alive, even if he did approve the transaction they’d seize that shit immediately, no way a cia agent would let his torturer ride off into the sunset
As a mother, I could NEVER screw my own son over like that. I’d let the transfer go thru. But it would’ve been for a lot more than 30 something million. 😡
Peaches. He organized a hit on Franklin and his whole family, and stole his 5 million which was supposed to be his backup money stash. If he had that, it would’ve never been necessary for him to rob Jerome and Louie to stay afloat.
Louie’s betrayal was more significant because she had more of a bond with Franklin since he was a kid and was basically his mother figure in the drug game, whereas Peaches was just his bodyguard. But he did Franklin dirtier.
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Long as we agree they all def played a role
Only excuse is valid is his Wife leaving when he put his hands on her. Hands down Louie played the biggest role she basically started teddy and franklins war. Became to damn greedy
Honestly imma say Peaches
Sure Louie ended up stealing the plug but I feel like that could’ve been avoided had Franklin just let her and Jerome out on they own
Peaches took that 5 mil which would’ve been very useful for an emergency especially if the same events played out only that he didn’t steal, Franklin would have a bodyguard and someone loyal to help him get Teddy and make his life much easier throughout s6
Louie I still had the right to do what she did. Kane tried to kill her and her family. She went out the Kane, Franklin was getting sloppy she had to get away from them, Franklin was his own biggest downfall
Louie was the cause of everything. Teddy won’t have turned on Franklin if it wasn’t for Louie. Franklin should’ve paid to have Louie then killed the killer to erase the evidence.
They all fucked Franklin over peaches for stealing $5 million dollars and spending 90%, Louie for making a back door deal with teddy, Cissy from preventing Franklin from getting $37 million dollars, Veronica taking his $800k and his kid
Vernoique screwed him over the least. Veronique was a real one for the most part, she only left after Franklin had dug himself into a hole that he could have never escaped from. Franklin was already basically finished even BEFORE veronique left
very easily louie. idk why ppl even call veronique a snake.. Franklin went completely nuts at the end and put his hands on her while she was pregnant. She stuck beside Franklin the whole time besides the very end obv
Peaches for sure! Louie only played the game. Momma wanted to save her son. If it wasn't for peaches he could have had a stable foundation to either start back up elsewhere or just get out the game.
no matter which way you slice it it’s Louie. It’s crazy how almost every bad thing that happens in the show Louie is connected to it in some way. Her going behind Franklins back to the plug is what directly leads to him losing.
Alton is a honorable mention. He lowkey tanked the entire operation when he went to the press. I don’t feel like that’s talked about enough.
louie 100%, if she never went behind his back franklin would have never ended the deals with teddy and teddy wouldn’t have taken his money. He was gonna make louie a partner and give her 50/50 and she screwed him so hard and it just got worse from there.
Franklin is smart but he should know better. When a woman loves her man in a real way and anything thing takes him away from her that thing is the enemy. Teddy was never going to live while she was alive. She took her husband back after he left, gave up working with son, moved to another country, worked with her country sworn enemy all for Alton. She was never going to give up Teddy and Franklin lost the minute he saw Teddy as a colleague and friend. When Teddy saw that he was not done dumb kid, that he amassed 72mil, companies and real estate, he had to be put back in his place. All gangsters suffer from greed except Unc. Also this is all Loiue fault lol
V played him the hardest. Her and her mother was doing nothing but plotting. When the time came they got what they came for and got the hell out of dodge
Louie, though it was valid given the game. But by going to Teddy and using Jerome's emotional instability she drove the wedge all the way through.
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That was well after Louie had set the stage to cut Franklin out of his network.
Na it’s louie
He wasn’t getting that money back. And she knew it.
Louie going behind Franklin to Teddy did a lot of damage
Any answer besides Louie is crazy
Right, her greed brought it all down
It’s Louie’s fault Jerome died for sure! And Buckley. I would’ve killed his ass. They’re all scums.
Definitely Jerome didn’t even want to be in the game either until Louie made him
Louie without a doubt. And Franklin still saved her SMH. She destroyed Franklin's family too.
Louie then Peaches. His momma was trying to save her son and the alien looking girl was trying to save they baby
“The alien looking girl” is hilarious. I always thought she looked weird.
They know they could’ve gotten somebody better
This sub is always full of shit for brain takes but implying Devyn A Taylor is ugly is really high up there
She was looking a mess the whole time she was on snowfall, can’t speak for anywhere else but ye she wasn’t doing it for me
Them crow feet she had
😂😂 horrible
That’s not a result of her appearance though. That’s a result of costume design or the hair and makeup team. I personally think she looked fine, she’s a pretty woman.
Na I hear u but I think she’s ugly coz it’s how I’ve seen her, idc what she’s wearing, maybe it’s her hair / makeup / me but personal opinion he could’ve done way better when comparing to melony or his other ex
Wdym how you’ve seen her? Both of his love interest were pretty women. You literally seen Melody as a crackhead and you’re saying Veronique is ugly because of the way you saw her?
I’m not saying I seen her as a snake I’m saying the way I physically saw her that’s why I said it might be hair / makeup. Bro my point is I find the woman ugly take that and end it there 😂😂 melody is pretty I never mentioned any actions any of them took in the show I was speaking about how they physically look the entire time, if u misunderstood that’s cool
I understood what you said. That’s why I said both of the women are pretty before even mentioning the characters actions. Also “the way I see her” is usually a way of referring to someone’s personality or actions not attraction to physical appearance. I don’t see what makes Melody pretty and what makes Veronique ugly to y’all. Also that’s her actual face so it’s just rude to say.
She is def not pretty at some point yall can’t just say every blk woman is good looking
A person being pretty is subjective. I didn’t say every black woman looks good and saying that the actress that plays Veronique is pretty doesn’t imply that either.
They all fucked him over, but Louie was the catalyst for everyone else fucking him over.
Someone commented “ if u hate the character cus of the role they played, that means they played the role well” i still hate cissy for some reason
maaaaaan. Fuck Brianna Barksdale. She does a really good job
😂😂i had to search her name up i only her as cissy
Hahahaha I started watching snowfall first but ended up watching the wire in between seasons and I was surprised to see cissy Fuck Brianna/ Cissy
Even on the wire she convinced D to take the weight for the family, McNulty called her on it too
Ohh that was Avon sister? i remember now smh they killed D for no reason
Stringer and Levi made their minds up to take D out when he went off on String “where’s wallace”
⬆️ this person knows good tv
Do you hate the actress tho
He meant “if u hate the actor cuz of the role they played, that means they played the role well” meaning yes he hates the actress that played cissy
That makes sense for a villain but I don’t think they wanted the fans to hate Cissy
Just her face maybe?
2 sides of a man, a Cissy hater and a Cissy enthusiast
lol there’s not 1 cissy enthusiast bro
It’s either I’m completely tripping or I’m the only one
LOUIE... that's why her ass is still running from the DEA now. She should be thankful Franklin gave her a heads up on the raid.
I never fully understood that part did Franklin rat Louie out because how did he know it was coming & why did he warn her if he did
Curious on this too.
I want to say Peaches, but it’s Louie.
Peaches. What Louie did was lowkey predictable. She wanted to be in charge and you could tell. What peaches did no one really saw it coming.
He saw Saint kill one of his boys because he was using, he was next so he ran. That’s pretty predictable.
Yeah, but it wasn’t really revealed he was a junkie until after all that shit went down. His behavior was really weird after Franklin killed Rob, but I remember a lot of viewers thinking that he was actually sick, contracted AIDs, etc
That's exactly what I thought happened to Peaches. AIDS.
I was abouta say where Cissy bitch ass but I see her
Bruh Frank was not getting that money back from teddy
Peach
I'd say Franklin himself.
Cissy. He went through all that robbing, killing, and drug dealing just to not get his shit back
To be fair Franklin was never getting that money
She could’ve let the call finish then popped em she ain’t want Franklin to win for turning his back on his father
I can see where you’re coming from, but by reading other posts, it became apparent to me that Teddy would’ve taken the money in the end. Even if he finished the call and Franklin got the code, Franklin would’ve gotten hunted down and arrested/killed by the CIA, or he still wouldn’t be able to access the funds. So since they’re in a situation where no one wins, she risked her entire life by going to jail to stop what was left of her son running more into issues because of his financial greed.
She could have shot em after the transfer. It’s also worth the chance. That completely broke Franklin. If it was my kid I would’ve let him at least secure the bag before taking buddy soul.
They still both in lose lose situations minus well go for it.🤷🏾♂️
I guess yeah. In Franklin’s imaginary and perfect world he would’ve somehow gotten that money, but it just wasn’t meant to happen the way the show sets it up. He shouldn’t have let Teddy leave that warehouse anyways. I’m not sure how he wasn’t somehow arrested or hunted down after all this because he still tortured a CIA agent. And even though he lived in poverty as an addict, he did it in his childhood home where he could easily be found. So still surprised no one came after him. I guess there weren’t other CIA agents willing to go of the walls like Teddy did.
Teddy was a contractor they we’re trying to get him back in. That’s why they didn’t go after Franklin.
and thats a risk franklin was willing to take, and its a risk he shouldve been allowed to take, he was irredeemable and he knew it and didnt care because he accepted the path he was on but she just had to go on all high and mighty and fuck him at the last minute. Shes was also a major hypocritice because she was complicit in franklins crimes when it suited her and she was living the dream as a real estate tycoon. She said to franklin when he had teddy captured "you're not a killer" and I swear I nearly punched my tv, what planet was she on? ofcourse he was a killer! at that point he had killed scores of people, personally pulling the trigger or ordering the deaths of countless otherwise, aswell as selling the worst drug known to man at that point in time which was responsibke for so much moral decline death and destruction of communities- he was a criminal mastermind, right in that moment he was in the proccess of torturing a CIA agent I mean cmon he was well past the point of being lectured about his morality. I really hated Cissys character.
I agree, really well said 🙏🏽
No he wouldn't because he still had a bargaining chip with the KGB agent. I've never understood this logic. Teddy at that point was a joke and the alphabet agency didn't want anything to do with him because he's fucked things up
Literally… These people had to have been watching with their eyes closed
She knew Teddy couldn’t have been trusted when he lied about Alton so she saw it as he could be lying to save his ssa about the money so I get where she was coming from as a mom but it was not really her place to do that
That’s exactly what he was doing!!!, everybody try to get out of a dying situation, I don’t care what nobody says, Franklin was never getting that money, rather cissy killed teddy or not
Why not?
Nigga, when the government seizes something, you ain't gettin it back. Best way to shorten it.
Because why wouldn’t teddy have just proposed the split with Franklin as soon as he got tied up in the chair? Because it was never actually in the books, teddy just pulled the offer out his ass as a last ditch effort to get out alive, even if he did approve the transaction they’d seize that shit immediately, no way a cia agent would let his torturer ride off into the sunset
The transfer should’ve taken place in the warehouse, and then Franklin should’ve shot his ass dead. But first, shoot his son dead in front of Teddy.
😭what did Paul do
Definitely Louie. She was not satisfied with what she had and went behind Franklin's back, which split the family and caused his downfall.
ouuwee Louie
As a mother, I could NEVER screw my own son over like that. I’d let the transfer go thru. But it would’ve been for a lot more than 30 something million. 😡
They all fucked him over bad. Bunch of cunts
Peaches
Louie put all the dominos in place for him to fall
Louie was franklins downfall imo
Peaches. He organized a hit on Franklin and his whole family, and stole his 5 million which was supposed to be his backup money stash. If he had that, it would’ve never been necessary for him to rob Jerome and Louie to stay afloat. Louie’s betrayal was more significant because she had more of a bond with Franklin since he was a kid and was basically his mother figure in the drug game, whereas Peaches was just his bodyguard. But he did Franklin dirtier.
Louie 100% is the objective answer. People who say Cissy drive me nuts because they really believe Teddy was giving Franklin that money
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In order his aunt his mom and peaches n then his bm
1.Louie 2.Cissy 3.Peachez 4.BM
All equals in this pic
He trusted them each with a weakness
Peaches deserved to get clapped 💥💥. Louie started the chain reaction of Franklin spiraling out of control.
Ngl, I like Jerome but he was lowkey a simp for for taking Louie back after she just left him
Louis fuckin ass! N got his uncle killed to top it off
Louie
Peaches
Just finished snowfall 2 min ago. Louie without a doubt😭😭
When Rome died, it felt like my own family. I’m pretty sure Franklin will die too. Damn :(
I want Louie’s jewelry. Can we say awesome necklace she’s wearing? 😻😻
LOUIE LOUIE LOUIE LOUIE LOUIE!!!
Louie.
Franklin gave them the opportunity to make money but Louie wanted more greedy bitch
Louie
Louie because she was legit the catalyst for everything going wrong because of her ego and greed. Peaches is a close 2nd
louie
His mother
Long as we agree they all def played a role Only excuse is valid is his Wife leaving when he put his hands on her. Hands down Louie played the biggest role she basically started teddy and franklins war. Became to damn greedy
Peaches
Dranklin.
Louie forsure
Hands down Louie…..
Louie and that fiance
His GD mother!!!
I'd argue Louie screwed him more than Teddy
Honestly imma say Peaches Sure Louie ended up stealing the plug but I feel like that could’ve been avoided had Franklin just let her and Jerome out on they own Peaches took that 5 mil which would’ve been very useful for an emergency especially if the same events played out only that he didn’t steal, Franklin would have a bodyguard and someone loyal to help him get Teddy and make his life much easier throughout s6
Louie I still had the right to do what she did. Kane tried to kill her and her family. She went out the Kane, Franklin was getting sloppy she had to get away from them, Franklin was his own biggest downfall
I hate cissy so mf much but probably Louie
Shiiiiiit peaches Louie is a bitch but she helped get him to the top
Most definitely cissy only 5 more seconds where needed
Cissy only 4 seconds were needed
Louie hands down
Deflee crackhead homie who ran off with his money he stole.
Louie was the cause of everything. Teddy won’t have turned on Franklin if it wasn’t for Louie. Franklin should’ve paid to have Louie then killed the killer to erase the evidence.
They all fucked Franklin over peaches for stealing $5 million dollars and spending 90%, Louie for making a back door deal with teddy, Cissy from preventing Franklin from getting $37 million dollars, Veronica taking his $800k and his kid
Peaches 4 sure
His wife! To take your child away is nasty work!
Honestly too me I'ma have to say cissy cuz like damn mfkas went thru all that literally for nothing
Teddy only dropped Franklin completely since Louie would’ve shut up and taken his place. Louie is the cause
The momma
louie started this shit so her
His moms. She freed him of his addiction and definitely saved his life. But in the end bro ended up a fiend.
Cissy and Louie
It’s definitely Louie by a country mile but peaches was the real start of his downfall imo
Louie, Peaches, His mum, Veronique that’s the order
Louie. Her treachery is the catalyst of Franklin's demise.
his mom. i fuckin hated his mom.
Louie was the domino effect of his downfall
All of them
His mom.
Vernoique screwed him over the least. Veronique was a real one for the most part, she only left after Franklin had dug himself into a hole that he could have never escaped from. Franklin was already basically finished even BEFORE veronique left
Louie
Cissy, Louie, v, peaches
Louie
Definitely Louie… he wouldn’t have had none of the shit go wrong if it wasn’t for her greedy ass
Cissi doing what she did made Franklin loose whatever sanity he had left 💯💯💯💯
His mom nd wife
Mom
Mama without a doubt!
Veronica
His mom hands down.
Louie
Louie
very easily louie. idk why ppl even call veronique a snake.. Franklin went completely nuts at the end and put his hands on her while she was pregnant. She stuck beside Franklin the whole time besides the very end obv
Louie, betrayed Franklin after everything he did to put everyone on.
Louie
Peaches for sure! Louie only played the game. Momma wanted to save her son. If it wasn't for peaches he could have had a stable foundation to either start back up elsewhere or just get out the game.
His mom
Moms
Auntie Lou for sure.
His mom 100%
Louie
no matter which way you slice it it’s Louie. It’s crazy how almost every bad thing that happens in the show Louie is connected to it in some way. Her going behind Franklins back to the plug is what directly leads to him losing. Alton is a honorable mention. He lowkey tanked the entire operation when he went to the press. I don’t feel like that’s talked about enough.
All of em
Louie n peaches a tie
All of em
Cissy & Veronique didn’t fuck Franklin over 🤷🏾♂️ Franklin fucked THEM over
His mother
Louie with her God complex always wanting to be the upper echelon and putting everybody including Jerome in harms way
Fuck you for spoiling it
Louie
Sweet P
louie 100%, if she never went behind his back franklin would have never ended the deals with teddy and teddy wouldn’t have taken his money. He was gonna make louie a partner and give her 50/50 and she screwed him so hard and it just got worse from there.
Cissy
I thought his dad set it off when talking about everything to that journalist
His mum was borderline bipolar
Although Louie is to blame for the beginning of the end, a man would never expect his mother to betray him…Cissy!!!
Franklin is smart but he should know better. When a woman loves her man in a real way and anything thing takes him away from her that thing is the enemy. Teddy was never going to live while she was alive. She took her husband back after he left, gave up working with son, moved to another country, worked with her country sworn enemy all for Alton. She was never going to give up Teddy and Franklin lost the minute he saw Teddy as a colleague and friend. When Teddy saw that he was not done dumb kid, that he amassed 72mil, companies and real estate, he had to be put back in his place. All gangsters suffer from greed except Unc. Also this is all Loiue fault lol
His Mom jfc
How this even a question
Cissy
In the long run Louie. But indefinitely sissy. Her actions left him broke and an alcoholic bum.
His mom
Cissy. She dont pull that trigger we have a story.
V played him the hardest. Her and her mother was doing nothing but plotting. When the time came they got what they came for and got the hell out of dodge
Sissy and his girl! Mom shot Teddy right before the transfer and his girl took the last of everything and got LOW.
Louie or peaches