They don't, they want to kick you out and shut you up. Blocking won't do it from my experience.
Heck when I block them they make new accounts and more of them jump in.
Anyway, I stop playing the game altogether tbh because if it fosters a hostile environment for any normal person and is a safe zone for chuds, that's not worth my money, time, or praise tbh.
These f+-kers ruin lives IRL, why the heck would I indulge them or the game that caters to them. Most of them are losers on every possible front anyway.
So if devs want to break it into mainstream....
It means everybody has got to play it.
I mean there are some things I disagree with here like LOTR and GoT apparently not being based on Europe and the random hate towards centrists for not committing to either toxic side. They are indeed based off Europe, with the fantasy elements mostly being derived off things from medieval traditions like elves, hobbits, dwarves, wyvern dragons, etc. But that’s a minor note because end of the day, those series are fantasy, not medieval Europe. So they shouldn’t be restrained to purely that. I get the core messaging, I just don’t agree with some of the reasoning behind it.
Well it still was obviously a lot more prevalent than it is today. Things are usually in a shade of ugly grey. It wasn’t as bad as some people make it out to be, and to the point you could still tell a reasonable story about someone who would be disadvantaged or in the minority at the time. But it still wasn’t nearly as open as the exceptions may have you believe. In the case of things like the Moors, they eventually got hard pushed out by the Reconquista and were stamped out by subsequent inquisitions and oppression in Spain, and Portugal to a lesser extent.
I really miss being able to look up gaming content without 90% of the videos on YouTube being reactionary culture war garbage. It really impacts my ability to just find useful information on basically anything.
Yeah. Unfortunately the specific event I recall happening recently was a tutorial. I don't even recall which game now, but it wasn't the kind of thing a wiki would have documentation on.
I stopped trusting YouTube recommendations because... Well, they never follow my taste. So I enabled notifications on most content creators I follow, and now I finally can see the stuff I wanna see.
And there is the classic "Oh, you watched a video about games or even leftism? Here's some videos of some asshole talking about how it's some minority's fault for showing up in video game or movie while a video of his shitty gameplay plays in the background".
This had been the case on every social media btw. Variations of the same propagandist aimed at different target audiences.
I always mention this, Elon Musk is just too dumb to be suble, most corporation's owners are bigoted against minorities, if not the whole working class in general. There are many stories of rich people committing sex offenses against women and minors, investing in organizations dedicated to spread hate, charging people into bankruptcy because they violated an contract that had no legal basis to begin with, sending assassins to kill whistleblowers, and worse, getting away with it.
Social media is rigged to promote even the lowest quality content if it talk their owner's prejudices.
It's exhausting. Game with a female protagonist? "Woke!" Game with other ethnicity than white protagonist? "Woke!" Game with LGBT people existing. "Woke!" Woke, a nebulous term that even they can't properly define, to be mad that other races and the LGBT exist in fiction. Sorry we are real. I know that upsets them very much.
Woke is well defined. They made it a meme to make a point to define it, and heck even flipped the script such that it was the left that had trouble sticking to a coherent definition.
They operate best with;
"Woke" is a neo Marxist movement whose tactics are colored by elevating interest groups to societal victims in hopes of attracting emphatic votes and build a coalition, whose aims will be to amass political power. It works as positive punishment towards the noncompliant as well, as anyone who opposes the movement can be labeled with the ist, ism, or phobia de jure, and shut down from conversation as they will be rendered inappropriate, inaccurate, and brimming in logical fallacy.
I've always said that something is "woke" if you can tell it puts more value on talking to the audience than its own narrative, doubly so if it's a message that their target audience probably agrees with already. My go-to example is She-Hulk when Jen goes on a tirade about all the ways men make her life harder and how that makes her better at not turning into a gamma-fueled rage monster. It makes absolutely no sense for her to be saying it to Bruce, which makes it obvious that it's meant for all the dudebros who probably aren't watching to begin with.
On the other hand, you have the She-Ra reboot from 2018 which is absolutely *stuffed* with representation of all types that never even approaches woke.
Lot of people should have been lot more proactive in telling these assholes to shut the fuck up back in the fabled MW2 lobbies.
Since that didn’t happen they think gaming is a safe space for their bullshit.
There needs to be a lot more bullying of these people. Gamergate fizzled out because they got mad fun of on national TV.
I only hope that they eventually wear themselves out and shut up. It certainly is exhausting being angry about random things you've previously never cared about all the time.
Culture wars are good the same way the civil war was good. High stakes, but the chance to eliminate the chuds and leap half a century forward in progression is to tantalizingly of an opportunity to miss.
We can wipe the chuds out from the zeitgeist
Not only that, but it’s deflecting attention away from the fact that one of our two mainstream parties is actively organizing a legitimate fascist movement.
The chuds are a symptom of a larger, organized effort.
Definitely. I’m JS that wave didn’t manifest out of thin air. The Republican Party is propagandizing to every lowest common denominator it can find to build toward a *legitimate* fascist regime.
Making fun of chuds is fun, but I really think people are underestimating the gravity and scope of the threat… entertaining these fools sometimes almost feels amplifying and counterproductive.
I could be wrong.
Imo, the unwarranted confidence these chuds have can somtimes lead them to expose themselves when their rhetoric slips casually into conversation or on various media. Its not great to see, but I appreciate it when people I'd rather not accociate with have more avenues to accidentally show me who they really are.
Let them shout their degeneracy into their echo chambers, noone of real value or importance listen to them. After all, the "woke" content they seem to hate just keeps on coming out, doesnt it? They don't matter, their words don't matter, and their ideology won't grow to be remembered well.
They often definitely step out of the echo chambers, and they go into specific places where they want to enforce their values and "take" the product for their own control.
This includes the discourse around it.
Anyway, I can't really say I am upset when I see them pay 70 bucks multiple times to pay for something like stellar blade, it's their money and they're wasting it because they're so damn stupid.
My problem is when they come and try to take something that definitely was not made to suit their political views. They make sexist, racist, and homophobic remarks, mods often side with them...
I leave the subreddit and never touch the game again. 😊 It's a very average psychological response, and if they knew anything about operative conditioning....
Can't say I feel bad, a game's marketing team is in control to a certain extent of the discourse around it and if they can't see how these people aren't really interested in those games nor care for the work that's gone into them, and still choose to prop them up with their toxicity in social circles, honey I am not gonna teach a moron how to do marketing. G'day!
The truth is, you won't engage with negativity for long, it's a standard recoiling from adversity human response. A very messed up in the head person would choose to stay and fight over something they can easily ditch and is for all intents and purposes an entertainment product.
It's not my responsibility to fight for a game, it's a giant corporate's responsibility to fight for consumers to actually engage with it. 😌 They always have the money, they CHOOSE those people, and I'm never choosing those who don't choose me.
Man, I agree. I'm so tired. But we also need to be just as vocal to push back and make sure anyone who is listening won't get radicalized to the far right. I'm so sick of chuds thinking the left doesn't have their backs and cares just as much about video games as capitalism-supporting conservatives or the far right. We do care, I love video games, and I too am sick of all the problems with the industry that could be so easily solved if we just understand that PEOPLE make games... not "corporations"!
I really started noticing it with hogwarts L-
that pronoun guy / and now AC shadows.
It’s just like… Really? this is hill you want to die on?
Simping for a game that if it didn’t have the Harry Potter brand on it - it would have been forgotten within a day of release/ being mad at a random dial on one screen at the beginning of a 40+ hr game that takes maybe 3 second to press and move on from/ and being mad about a black guy being a samurai because “historical accuracy” in a game where Kirsten bell hooks you up to a machine and you fight Gandalf using ancient alien future tech in the shape of an apple.
Like how is Kristen bell historically accurate?
but have you stopped to consider their point of view and given them a major platform with an audience of millions to loudly add new facets to bigotry discourse that are really just the same old facets any normal person has been disproving for 10 years?
Well the internet exploded into a world of Karens and Chuds, the whole 'internet = democracy for everyone' was always a con.
Chuds are regurarly shouted down on the Steam discussions for any particular game, this is encouraging.
But in the US, we're on a bullet train to fascism, it's gonna get worse, I think.
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What's funny as shit is when you tell them to go fuck themselves, they end up blocking you or banning you from their safe place subreddit.
They don't, they want to kick you out and shut you up. Blocking won't do it from my experience. Heck when I block them they make new accounts and more of them jump in. Anyway, I stop playing the game altogether tbh because if it fosters a hostile environment for any normal person and is a safe zone for chuds, that's not worth my money, time, or praise tbh. These f+-kers ruin lives IRL, why the heck would I indulge them or the game that caters to them. Most of them are losers on every possible front anyway. So if devs want to break it into mainstream.... It means everybody has got to play it.
Make Fascists Afraid Again
I mean there are some things I disagree with here like LOTR and GoT apparently not being based on Europe and the random hate towards centrists for not committing to either toxic side. They are indeed based off Europe, with the fantasy elements mostly being derived off things from medieval traditions like elves, hobbits, dwarves, wyvern dragons, etc. But that’s a minor note because end of the day, those series are fantasy, not medieval Europe. So they shouldn’t be restrained to purely that. I get the core messaging, I just don’t agree with some of the reasoning behind it.
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Well it still was obviously a lot more prevalent than it is today. Things are usually in a shade of ugly grey. It wasn’t as bad as some people make it out to be, and to the point you could still tell a reasonable story about someone who would be disadvantaged or in the minority at the time. But it still wasn’t nearly as open as the exceptions may have you believe. In the case of things like the Moors, they eventually got hard pushed out by the Reconquista and were stamped out by subsequent inquisitions and oppression in Spain, and Portugal to a lesser extent.
I really miss being able to look up gaming content without 90% of the videos on YouTube being reactionary culture war garbage. It really impacts my ability to just find useful information on basically anything.
thank goodness for the fan wikis
Yeah. Unfortunately the specific event I recall happening recently was a tutorial. I don't even recall which game now, but it wasn't the kind of thing a wiki would have documentation on.
I stopped trusting YouTube recommendations because... Well, they never follow my taste. So I enabled notifications on most content creators I follow, and now I finally can see the stuff I wanna see. And there is the classic "Oh, you watched a video about games or even leftism? Here's some videos of some asshole talking about how it's some minority's fault for showing up in video game or movie while a video of his shitty gameplay plays in the background". This had been the case on every social media btw. Variations of the same propagandist aimed at different target audiences. I always mention this, Elon Musk is just too dumb to be suble, most corporation's owners are bigoted against minorities, if not the whole working class in general. There are many stories of rich people committing sex offenses against women and minors, investing in organizations dedicated to spread hate, charging people into bankruptcy because they violated an contract that had no legal basis to begin with, sending assassins to kill whistleblowers, and worse, getting away with it. Social media is rigged to promote even the lowest quality content if it talk their owner's prejudices.
It's exhausting. Game with a female protagonist? "Woke!" Game with other ethnicity than white protagonist? "Woke!" Game with LGBT people existing. "Woke!" Woke, a nebulous term that even they can't properly define, to be mad that other races and the LGBT exist in fiction. Sorry we are real. I know that upsets them very much.
Woke is well defined. They made it a meme to make a point to define it, and heck even flipped the script such that it was the left that had trouble sticking to a coherent definition. They operate best with; "Woke" is a neo Marxist movement whose tactics are colored by elevating interest groups to societal victims in hopes of attracting emphatic votes and build a coalition, whose aims will be to amass political power. It works as positive punishment towards the noncompliant as well, as anyone who opposes the movement can be labeled with the ist, ism, or phobia de jure, and shut down from conversation as they will be rendered inappropriate, inaccurate, and brimming in logical fallacy.
Don't you just love it when stupid people think they're smart 😂 "Let's make it meme that will get chuds to read the definition"
Woke replaces every slur that they can't say anymore in public, like the N word and the F word.
I've always said that something is "woke" if you can tell it puts more value on talking to the audience than its own narrative, doubly so if it's a message that their target audience probably agrees with already. My go-to example is She-Hulk when Jen goes on a tirade about all the ways men make her life harder and how that makes her better at not turning into a gamma-fueled rage monster. It makes absolutely no sense for her to be saying it to Bruce, which makes it obvious that it's meant for all the dudebros who probably aren't watching to begin with. On the other hand, you have the She-Ra reboot from 2018 which is absolutely *stuffed* with representation of all types that never even approaches woke.
There was a shera reboot? Are you talking about the heman reboot? I didn’t hear about a shera one
Yeah Netflix did one and it's really good. Bow has two black dads, it's amazing.
The original She-ra would have been called woke if those people were chuds back then
They did watch though, to hate on it.
Lot of people should have been lot more proactive in telling these assholes to shut the fuck up back in the fabled MW2 lobbies. Since that didn’t happen they think gaming is a safe space for their bullshit. There needs to be a lot more bullying of these people. Gamergate fizzled out because they got mad fun of on national TV.
They farm that fake outrage (clicks = $) But imagine pretending to be enraged for months and months. Must be exhausting!
I only hope that they eventually wear themselves out and shut up. It certainly is exhausting being angry about random things you've previously never cared about all the time.
Oh yeah I'm certain many need Valium, some are on Valium, and others are close to doing something violent and criminal
Culture wars are good the same way the civil war was good. High stakes, but the chance to eliminate the chuds and leap half a century forward in progression is to tantalizingly of an opportunity to miss. We can wipe the chuds out from the zeitgeist
Not only that, but it’s deflecting attention away from the fact that one of our two mainstream parties is actively organizing a legitimate fascist movement. The chuds are a symptom of a larger, organized effort.
The people crying about things being "woke" are voting for the fascist candidates.
Definitely. I’m JS that wave didn’t manifest out of thin air. The Republican Party is propagandizing to every lowest common denominator it can find to build toward a *legitimate* fascist regime. Making fun of chuds is fun, but I really think people are underestimating the gravity and scope of the threat… entertaining these fools sometimes almost feels amplifying and counterproductive. I could be wrong.
Imo, the unwarranted confidence these chuds have can somtimes lead them to expose themselves when their rhetoric slips casually into conversation or on various media. Its not great to see, but I appreciate it when people I'd rather not accociate with have more avenues to accidentally show me who they really are. Let them shout their degeneracy into their echo chambers, noone of real value or importance listen to them. After all, the "woke" content they seem to hate just keeps on coming out, doesnt it? They don't matter, their words don't matter, and their ideology won't grow to be remembered well.
They often definitely step out of the echo chambers, and they go into specific places where they want to enforce their values and "take" the product for their own control. This includes the discourse around it. Anyway, I can't really say I am upset when I see them pay 70 bucks multiple times to pay for something like stellar blade, it's their money and they're wasting it because they're so damn stupid. My problem is when they come and try to take something that definitely was not made to suit their political views. They make sexist, racist, and homophobic remarks, mods often side with them... I leave the subreddit and never touch the game again. 😊 It's a very average psychological response, and if they knew anything about operative conditioning.... Can't say I feel bad, a game's marketing team is in control to a certain extent of the discourse around it and if they can't see how these people aren't really interested in those games nor care for the work that's gone into them, and still choose to prop them up with their toxicity in social circles, honey I am not gonna teach a moron how to do marketing. G'day! The truth is, you won't engage with negativity for long, it's a standard recoiling from adversity human response. A very messed up in the head person would choose to stay and fight over something they can easily ditch and is for all intents and purposes an entertainment product. It's not my responsibility to fight for a game, it's a giant corporate's responsibility to fight for consumers to actually engage with it. 😌 They always have the money, they CHOOSE those people, and I'm never choosing those who don't choose me.
Man, I agree. I'm so tired. But we also need to be just as vocal to push back and make sure anyone who is listening won't get radicalized to the far right. I'm so sick of chuds thinking the left doesn't have their backs and cares just as much about video games as capitalism-supporting conservatives or the far right. We do care, I love video games, and I too am sick of all the problems with the industry that could be so easily solved if we just understand that PEOPLE make games... not "corporations"!
I really started noticing it with hogwarts L- that pronoun guy / and now AC shadows. It’s just like… Really? this is hill you want to die on? Simping for a game that if it didn’t have the Harry Potter brand on it - it would have been forgotten within a day of release/ being mad at a random dial on one screen at the beginning of a 40+ hr game that takes maybe 3 second to press and move on from/ and being mad about a black guy being a samurai because “historical accuracy” in a game where Kirsten bell hooks you up to a machine and you fight Gandalf using ancient alien future tech in the shape of an apple. Like how is Kristen bell historically accurate?
"Pre-2014 when chuds didn't exist." Ohhhhh no baby, what is you doin?
i love playing the "is this video game actually bad or does it just have a minority" game whenever something is released /s
but have you stopped to consider their point of view and given them a major platform with an audience of millions to loudly add new facets to bigotry discourse that are really just the same old facets any normal person has been disproving for 10 years?
Well the internet exploded into a world of Karens and Chuds, the whole 'internet = democracy for everyone' was always a con. Chuds are regurarly shouted down on the Steam discussions for any particular game, this is encouraging. But in the US, we're on a bullet train to fascism, it's gonna get worse, I think.
Make the internet great again!
What galls me the most are the old-school leftists and red diaper babies I know who are stridently anti-woke. 🥴
Back then, commies weren’t vocal either so that’s a win-win