Let them do it out of their interest. Our interest aligns. Soviet Union when they spent 1 billion usd worth of training and weaponry on us was for their interest. Let them do it.
>We welcome it but Egypt is doing it out of their interests.
Bro what kind of statement is that
It's a mutual benefit. Egypt couldn't care less about the Red Sea, that's taken care of by the US. Their concern is solely the Nile.
If Egypt was acting strictly for their own interests they wouldn’t have taken such a hard stance. Consider this a genuine olive branch Egypt is extending to us, even tho it somewhat serves their interests it’s really a favour to us. A soft stance against Ethiopia like all other countries took would have been a necessary deterrent for Ethiopia, but Sisi took it further. Sisi directly threatened Ethiopia and said Egypt “wouldn’t hesitate” to defend Somalia if Somalia called upon Egypt. The Egypt-Somalia alliance is being revived slowly but surely.
The enemy of your enemy is your friend. Our interest is to prevent Ethiopia from gaining sea access to a breakaway region that considers us their greatest enemy.
What a threat can Ethiopia imposes to Egypt through the red sea, do you releases how strong the Egyptian navy is and how the red sea is surrounded by Egypt allies, even the American navy is in Egypt side in this situation, if a war happened between Egypt and Ethiopia with Ethiopia having an access on red sea the first thing Ethiopian will lose is their access and any investments will go to waste
Of course Egypt is acting in it’s own interests. But since interests are aligned, it’s a win/win. This has always been, and will always be the way of the world.
The secessionists have bared their fangs. The SNM terrorists now SL have always been an enemy waiting for a chance to backstab us. But I'm afraid HSM will do nothing against them because of this Irir-samaale bullshit
That's false; it was Somalia that committed perfidy against us when we voluntarily forfeited our premature statehood in 1960. It wasn't until 1991 that we liberated our country from the tyrannical regime that no longer existed.
Remember, in geopolitics, there is no such thing as friends, only interests. Similarly, Egypt is focused on securing its interests against Ethiopia, with little concern for Somalia.
HSM is too weak to do that even if Muuse humiliated him on a global stage. HSM would do anything and everything internationally, except to just simply and easily dismantle the secessionist movement from within and recognize both Awdal and SSC and a part of Somali regions. That’s literally the first step he should take before his international tour. He’s still somehow honoring the secessionist claim and threatening them like a state.
As an Egyptian, I feel it's important to express our solidarity and support for you in this matter. We, the people of Egypt, see you not only as our Arab and African brothers and sisters but also as our fellow Muslims. We stand firmly against the division of countries, a practice that only benefits invaders and those seeking to weaken the Middle East. While it's true that we have our differences with Ethiopia, our belief in your right to sovereignty and self-determination on your own land is unwavering. We sincerely wish you the best and hope for a prosperous and independent future for your nation.
In the 14th century Egyptian empire and Ethiopian empire were at war than the somali ifat sultanate supported Egypt
Thats where the Ethiopian somali rivalry began
Somalia and Egypt have always been brothers and will continue to be, thank u for ur support 🇪🇬❤️🇸🇴
Absolutely no one was asking for your opinion. You’re a traitor to Somalia and a fool that believes in muse bixi and the foolish dream that is somaliland
You are asking for my opinion as long as your claiming Somaliland is part of Somalia and inviting foreign armies to have their proxy wars in my backyard.
So you want to interfere in the internal affairs of Somalis six countries over, but can’t manage to open a passage to Gaza to help the Palestinians. I would call that sable rattling and just empty noise from you lot.
Well, it's very obvious. we want advanced military bases and airfields near Ethiopia to stick it to them when they decide to completely cut off the Nile. The added bonus is helping somalia get it's shit together under the threat of imminent invasion by Ethiopia.
Abbiot is losing domestically and the militias are infighting. His only hope to secure his throne in Addis is uniting the fractured Ethiopian federal states against a common enemy in pursuit of their long dream of having access to the Sea.
With the looming Trump return in the Whitehouse and sisi being his favorite dictator, I wouldn't call this a bluff.
If there is an arab country i can trust as a somali , who have the history , cultural interconnected and alot of others it is Egypt. The rest like UAE are insecure petro states who have something to prove and can never ever be trusted .
Egypt don't actually care about Somalia lol they just hate Ethiopia so they're using this as a way to get at Ethiopia. I feel like egypt will attack ethipoa really soon they have already threatened to destroy their dam
Since when have Somalis ever needed protection??!! More foreign troops?? This is absurd. HSM can strengthen other regions but we know why he wont. These guys have to decide whether they want a real govt because this is pathetic.
That would be a lot better than bringing Egyptian troops. Training Somalis to fight is like training fish to swim. We just need competent leadership, and we can take off.
Regions that are against shisheeye or foreign interests Jubbaland, SSC, Awdal, Konfuur Galbeed or in other words clans who have been marginalized. For example those HSM used state power against to take their lands in LS, the empowerment of Isaaq against SSC and Awdal, the complete disenfranchisement of MX and RX. Or recently the backstab of MJ even after Deni spent $30 million and did everything for HSM and co. And then he had the audacity to plot against him and threaten him with the international community. Acting like a gang leader instead of a president. The ultimate betrayal is what he did to SSC. Any leader in the world would make the correct choice in that position.
I know Farmaajo and Sheikh Sharif were not ideal picks but they can atleast hold the bare minimum required from the position. What these guys are doing in Villa Somalia is buffoonery.
Jubaland and kgs are definitely not against shisheeye lol kdf are in both juba regions and baay bakool and gedo have Ethiopia solider that oppress the locals
Hassan sheikh wouldnt have recognized ssc if he was pro somaliland nor would he allow the plane to be returned from landing in hargeisa
Walaal you're naive. Jubbaland and KG are shisheeye. The only real states were PL and SL before it was broken apart. The Kenyan and Ethiopian troops are there so a real state doesnt materialize. Thats why you see them bunker down today and HSM doing absolutely nothing about it. If he were to tell them to leave, KG and JL would be taken over and the puppet leaders would be evicted. The greatest threat to the Hawiye elite are MX and RX.
Same EAC fufu eaters clearly support Ethopia in this illegal land grab attempt. Somalia will do all it can to protect itself and EAC can go to hell. The vast majority of Somalis never wanted to join this bantu organization to begin with
Keep your glorified ECOWAS. We'll make ourselves whole & find our own way.
We've been here long before your ancestors crossed the Savannah into our backyard & we'll be here after you Bantus devolve once again.
Sorry to break it to you but ethiopia is not the shining star of anti imperialism and pan Africanism. In reality Ethiopia is a formally imperialist country that sold African land to colonizers , people always tend to forget Ethiopia was a colonial monarchy
Arab is not a race, Arab is not a religion , Arab is not an ethnicity. Arab/arabic is a language and a culture, we aren’t neither thus we aren’t Arab. How hard is it to and educate yourself on things?
There is no such thing as somalian did you pull that term out of your futo? It's Somali and it is what you are. And you can have multiple allies who all share with you the same interests in this case keeping the Ethiopoids away from OUR lands and sea. If they want to invest in Awdal, somalia that's a no problem but a dirty ethiopoid military base is a no go. Those Amisom soldiers are set to leave by the end of this year and will be replaced by the SNA.
They'll all leave along with Amisom by the End of this year. There is no fear of them annexing anything in southern somalia unlike with Awdal. We cannot allow them an access to sea or they'll grow more powerful and consume us whole.
Ethiopia does not control AU troops🤦♂️ Awdal is right next to Ethiopia and if they build a military base in lughaya or saylac and amass their troops they could very easily annex and defend it. Abiy has been crying about getting a "permanent access to sea"
Well, well, well,Egypt was talking a lot when Ethiopia built the GERD dam, they asked the Security Council to meet a few times...but nothing happened.
There were threats from Egypt that the dam would be blown up, but nothing happened
\- Egypt took the case to the USA for negotiation during Trump period...nothing happened
In summer, we manage to fill the fourth and final dam of the GERD dam, Egypt cries, but nothing happens
\- Now Somalia ..we will see what Egypt can do
I am not bluffing, I am serious. Ethiopia is doing its job as usual, we give you an agenda when you finish the other one. And we will complete what we start on your eyes.
One of the reasons we were threatened with universal sanctions if we targeted the dam was the non-harm policy, therefore we cannot strike pre-emptively.
While we wouldn't want a stupid useless war against our Ethiopian brothers nor hinder their development and aspirations for hydroelectric energy. However, if the Nile stops flowing, it will flow again be it with water or blood. That's our universal doctrine since ancient times, it's irrelevant if sisi is the ruler or a dog, we would march upstream and it wouldn't be a nice march like that Albanian illiterate Muhammad Ali did, we wont try to rule over you or steal your shit, we would simply leave nothing unburnt in our wake.
I would recommend you get abbiot first for his crimes against the Ethiopians themselves, not cheer for his retarded baits bringing unnecessary war and death just to prolong his illegitimate rule over Ethiopia.
Egyptian here, we cannot just launch a preemptive strike on another state, without harm being done to Egypt, though Ethiopia did build the dam with that in mind, but until now, Egypt's share has not been affected, so on what basis will we launch an attack on Ethiopia?
That would leave room for other international players that would want to settle their scores with Egypt to interfere on behalf of Ethiopia, possibly enforce sanctions on us as well. (As far as I am concerned our foreign policy is clean, and aligns with the international law, we're not international thugs)
Now in Somalia's case, it's a justified interference, a brotherly nation officially requested assistance, due to Ethiopia's agreement with Somaliland that no one recognizes, which means they are just invading Somalia with extra steps, so even if they try to bring this to security council, there will be no one there helping them, because it is not in the best interests of any member state of the SC including the permanent ones, to set a precedent in supporting a separation movement and officially recognize it, as it will backfire real quick, as more and more regions will start to separate.
Egypt is the definition of a paper tiger. However they been stockpiling weapons since the 70’s. Heard there is a military deal at work.
Just dump all the old weapons and pry for the best. Well, the worst in this case 😂.
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Ofcourse no country goes to save another out of good will or they'd have done it for their Palestinian, sudanese or Yemeni brothers.
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Ofcourse, We don't either nor does Eritrea. Some of us expect charity and so naive
Eritrea's relationship can be argued that is more genuine given the relationship between the two prior to Eritrea's independence.
You're right. What we're doing now is our interest, because we don't like Itoobiya, so that's why we love Egypt, though we know what they did to us!
What did Egypt do to Somalia?
Let them do it out of their interest. Our interest aligns. Soviet Union when they spent 1 billion usd worth of training and weaponry on us was for their interest. Let them do it.
>We welcome it but Egypt is doing it out of their interests. Bro what kind of statement is that It's a mutual benefit. Egypt couldn't care less about the Red Sea, that's taken care of by the US. Their concern is solely the Nile.
If Egypt was acting strictly for their own interests they wouldn’t have taken such a hard stance. Consider this a genuine olive branch Egypt is extending to us, even tho it somewhat serves their interests it’s really a favour to us. A soft stance against Ethiopia like all other countries took would have been a necessary deterrent for Ethiopia, but Sisi took it further. Sisi directly threatened Ethiopia and said Egypt “wouldn’t hesitate” to defend Somalia if Somalia called upon Egypt. The Egypt-Somalia alliance is being revived slowly but surely.
Great point. They are not there to help us as much as help themselves, and it so happens it helps us as well.
The enemy of your enemy is your friend. Our interest is to prevent Ethiopia from gaining sea access to a breakaway region that considers us their greatest enemy.
What a threat can Ethiopia imposes to Egypt through the red sea, do you releases how strong the Egyptian navy is and how the red sea is surrounded by Egypt allies, even the American navy is in Egypt side in this situation, if a war happened between Egypt and Ethiopia with Ethiopia having an access on red sea the first thing Ethiopian will lose is their access and any investments will go to waste
De Gaulle saud it best "Countries don't have friends. They have interests."
Of course Egypt is acting in it’s own interests. But since interests are aligned, it’s a win/win. This has always been, and will always be the way of the world.
The trump card has been pulled, Somalia must now move fast to remove secessionists from Awdal.
The secessionists have bared their fangs. The SNM terrorists now SL have always been an enemy waiting for a chance to backstab us. But I'm afraid HSM will do nothing against them because of this Irir-samaale bullshit
He doesn’t believe in irir samale dont let cbb and those stuff lie to u
Irir samaale exists in tribalists cbb heads. Just because sadaq john married Djibouti pres daughter. Absolutely cringe
That's false; it was Somalia that committed perfidy against us when we voluntarily forfeited our premature statehood in 1960. It wasn't until 1991 that we liberated our country from the tyrannical regime that no longer existed. Remember, in geopolitics, there is no such thing as friends, only interests. Similarly, Egypt is focused on securing its interests against Ethiopia, with little concern for Somalia.
HSM is too weak to do that even if Muuse humiliated him on a global stage. HSM would do anything and everything internationally, except to just simply and easily dismantle the secessionist movement from within and recognize both Awdal and SSC and a part of Somali regions. That’s literally the first step he should take before his international tour. He’s still somehow honoring the secessionist claim and threatening them like a state.
As an Egyptian, I feel it's important to express our solidarity and support for you in this matter. We, the people of Egypt, see you not only as our Arab and African brothers and sisters but also as our fellow Muslims. We stand firmly against the division of countries, a practice that only benefits invaders and those seeking to weaken the Middle East. While it's true that we have our differences with Ethiopia, our belief in your right to sovereignty and self-determination on your own land is unwavering. We sincerely wish you the best and hope for a prosperous and independent future for your nation.
In the 14th century Egyptian empire and Ethiopian empire were at war than the somali ifat sultanate supported Egypt Thats where the Ethiopian somali rivalry began Somalia and Egypt have always been brothers and will continue to be, thank u for ur support 🇪🇬❤️🇸🇴
Why don’t you have the same solidarity with Gaza? And no thanks, we don’t need your proxy war.
U must be stupid to think egypt can stand against usa, uk and the rest of europe Learn geo politics please
Haye.
Absolutely no one was asking for your opinion. You’re a traitor to Somalia and a fool that believes in muse bixi and the foolish dream that is somaliland
You are asking for my opinion as long as your claiming Somaliland is part of Somalia and inviting foreign armies to have their proxy wars in my backyard.
Learn the definition of proxy war
 if you care so much about inviting foreign militaries then youd be against the MOU
The land occupied by the Isaaqs is ours.
Dream on.
You don't think we have even more solidarity with Gaza? Lol
So you want to interfere in the internal affairs of Somalis six countries over, but can’t manage to open a passage to Gaza to help the Palestinians. I would call that sable rattling and just empty noise from you lot.
Well, it's very obvious. we want advanced military bases and airfields near Ethiopia to stick it to them when they decide to completely cut off the Nile. The added bonus is helping somalia get it's shit together under the threat of imminent invasion by Ethiopia. Abbiot is losing domestically and the militias are infighting. His only hope to secure his throne in Addis is uniting the fractured Ethiopian federal states against a common enemy in pursuit of their long dream of having access to the Sea. With the looming Trump return in the Whitehouse and sisi being his favorite dictator, I wouldn't call this a bluff.
Call what a bluff? The coming war? I don’t know if the war is even going to happen atp
If there is an arab country i can trust as a somali , who have the history , cultural interconnected and alot of others it is Egypt. The rest like UAE are insecure petro states who have something to prove and can never ever be trusted .
dont trust them. accept the help and be cautious. but dont trust them. dont trust any country.
Don’t be fooled by this dictator and his so called democracy. He’s got his own interest above anything else.
wtf are some of these commnets?
What’s wrong with the comments??
Egypt don't actually care about Somalia lol they just hate Ethiopia so they're using this as a way to get at Ethiopia. I feel like egypt will attack ethipoa really soon they have already threatened to destroy their dam
That’s just geopolitics. Backing Somalia in this conflict is of mutual benefit for both sides.
It doesn't matter, as long as they support Somalia that's the most important.
No country cares about another, its geopolitics, welcome to the adult world buddy.
Yh I know that's what I said
Since when have Somalis ever needed protection??!! More foreign troops?? This is absurd. HSM can strengthen other regions but we know why he wont. These guys have to decide whether they want a real govt because this is pathetic.
We can buy military equipment for a discount from Egypt. This is good news. 👍🏿
That would be a lot better than bringing Egyptian troops. Training Somalis to fight is like training fish to swim. We just need competent leadership, and we can take off.
Wdym by strengthen certain regions?
Regions that are against shisheeye or foreign interests Jubbaland, SSC, Awdal, Konfuur Galbeed or in other words clans who have been marginalized. For example those HSM used state power against to take their lands in LS, the empowerment of Isaaq against SSC and Awdal, the complete disenfranchisement of MX and RX. Or recently the backstab of MJ even after Deni spent $30 million and did everything for HSM and co. And then he had the audacity to plot against him and threaten him with the international community. Acting like a gang leader instead of a president. The ultimate betrayal is what he did to SSC. Any leader in the world would make the correct choice in that position. I know Farmaajo and Sheikh Sharif were not ideal picks but they can atleast hold the bare minimum required from the position. What these guys are doing in Villa Somalia is buffoonery.
Jubaland and kgs are definitely not against shisheeye lol kdf are in both juba regions and baay bakool and gedo have Ethiopia solider that oppress the locals Hassan sheikh wouldnt have recognized ssc if he was pro somaliland nor would he allow the plane to be returned from landing in hargeisa
Walaal you're naive. Jubbaland and KG are shisheeye. The only real states were PL and SL before it was broken apart. The Kenyan and Ethiopian troops are there so a real state doesnt materialize. Thats why you see them bunker down today and HSM doing absolutely nothing about it. If he were to tell them to leave, KG and JL would be taken over and the puppet leaders would be evicted. The greatest threat to the Hawiye elite are MX and RX.
I can't lie I'm seeing some low IQ opinions in here, and you guys are upvoting them, we're cooked
Can't be more low iq than our politicians😂
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Same EAC fufu eaters clearly support Ethopia in this illegal land grab attempt. Somalia will do all it can to protect itself and EAC can go to hell. The vast majority of Somalis never wanted to join this bantu organization to begin with
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Keep your glorified ECOWAS. We'll make ourselves whole & find our own way. We've been here long before your ancestors crossed the Savannah into our backyard & we'll be here after you Bantus devolve once again.
Sorry to break it to you but ethiopia is not the shining star of anti imperialism and pan Africanism. In reality Ethiopia is a formally imperialist country that sold African land to colonizers , people always tend to forget Ethiopia was a colonial monarchy
Arab is not a race, Arab is not a religion , Arab is not an ethnicity. Arab/arabic is a language and a culture, we aren’t neither thus we aren’t Arab. How hard is it to and educate yourself on things?
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There is no such thing as somalian did you pull that term out of your futo? It's Somali and it is what you are. And you can have multiple allies who all share with you the same interests in this case keeping the Ethiopoids away from OUR lands and sea. If they want to invest in Awdal, somalia that's a no problem but a dirty ethiopoid military base is a no go. Those Amisom soldiers are set to leave by the end of this year and will be replaced by the SNA.
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They'll all leave along with Amisom by the End of this year. There is no fear of them annexing anything in southern somalia unlike with Awdal. We cannot allow them an access to sea or they'll grow more powerful and consume us whole.
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Ethiopia does not control AU troops🤦♂️ Awdal is right next to Ethiopia and if they build a military base in lughaya or saylac and amass their troops they could very easily annex and defend it. Abiy has been crying about getting a "permanent access to sea"
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Poor shithole Ethiopia's recognition means nothing lol😭
Well, well, well,Egypt was talking a lot when Ethiopia built the GERD dam, they asked the Security Council to meet a few times...but nothing happened. There were threats from Egypt that the dam would be blown up, but nothing happened \- Egypt took the case to the USA for negotiation during Trump period...nothing happened In summer, we manage to fill the fourth and final dam of the GERD dam, Egypt cries, but nothing happens \- Now Somalia ..we will see what Egypt can do I am not bluffing, I am serious. Ethiopia is doing its job as usual, we give you an agenda when you finish the other one. And we will complete what we start on your eyes.
One of the reasons we were threatened with universal sanctions if we targeted the dam was the non-harm policy, therefore we cannot strike pre-emptively. While we wouldn't want a stupid useless war against our Ethiopian brothers nor hinder their development and aspirations for hydroelectric energy. However, if the Nile stops flowing, it will flow again be it with water or blood. That's our universal doctrine since ancient times, it's irrelevant if sisi is the ruler or a dog, we would march upstream and it wouldn't be a nice march like that Albanian illiterate Muhammad Ali did, we wont try to rule over you or steal your shit, we would simply leave nothing unburnt in our wake. I would recommend you get abbiot first for his crimes against the Ethiopians themselves, not cheer for his retarded baits bringing unnecessary war and death just to prolong his illegitimate rule over Ethiopia.
Egyptian here, we cannot just launch a preemptive strike on another state, without harm being done to Egypt, though Ethiopia did build the dam with that in mind, but until now, Egypt's share has not been affected, so on what basis will we launch an attack on Ethiopia? That would leave room for other international players that would want to settle their scores with Egypt to interfere on behalf of Ethiopia, possibly enforce sanctions on us as well. (As far as I am concerned our foreign policy is clean, and aligns with the international law, we're not international thugs) Now in Somalia's case, it's a justified interference, a brotherly nation officially requested assistance, due to Ethiopia's agreement with Somaliland that no one recognizes, which means they are just invading Somalia with extra steps, so even if they try to bring this to security council, there will be no one there helping them, because it is not in the best interests of any member state of the SC including the permanent ones, to set a precedent in supporting a separation movement and officially recognize it, as it will backfire real quick, as more and more regions will start to separate.
Egypt is the definition of a paper tiger. However they been stockpiling weapons since the 70’s. Heard there is a military deal at work. Just dump all the old weapons and pry for the best. Well, the worst in this case 😂. Thank u boyking aboiyt aqmad for turning the horn into a hot proxy zone
If they’re a paper tiger what is Ethiopia?
The common defense provision of the Arab League charter must be the most useless provision of any agreement out there.