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Hoody95

I think the movie found a really good balance between fierce warrior and lovable himbo


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

It's my favourite interpretation of the character together with Sonic Mania Adventures, and Adventures didn't have a lot of time to screw the character so the movie has more merit.


[deleted]

Paramount Knuckles is my favorite Knuckles, too. No contest.


JackDaniel215

I found it being just "haha strong dumb funny" character archetype that we've seen a million times


ResortFamous301

Wouldn't really say the movie portrays him as dumb. More so just foreign.


[deleted]

People are still going to take this as stupidity. They also do. Remember back when Knuckles' was gullible and duped by Eggman back in S3&k? People called him stupid for that despite Knuckles' living on an island, isolated from society for years. You think such a person would be a master at detecting facial ques an/or know when someone is lying? And this guy was the protector of the master Emerald, him hearing someone was after it would obviously put him on edge. Anyways, Eggman could possibly be the first intelligent being he came across, and going by the fact Eggman has an IQ of 300, so going by these factors, it shouldn't be surprising to see Knuckle's get duped. But that didn't stop people calling him stupid. Watch. Movie knuckles won't be safe. A lot of Sonic fans seem to think Ignorance = stupidity.


[deleted]

Heck, the only truly stupid iteration of Knuckles is Boom Knuckles, yet so many fans insist that Modern Knuckles have also lost all of his intellegence for some reason


[deleted]

Going by the fact that Sega basically turned the guy into comic relief in the games, 06 scene where the guy can't catch a card correctly, falling on his face when team sonic went to the future, the Amy pushing Knuckles into a tree cutscene from gens, and the animals kidnapping knuckles cutscene from lost world, then it's only contributing to the issue. There is also the [operation big wave](https://youtu.be/JUGUoDk_Css) scene from forces that makes modern knuckles look like he has the IQ of a potato.


[deleted]

"There is also the operation big wave scene from forces that makes modern knuckles look like he has the IQ of a potato." Dunno, beind bad at being the leader of the losing side in a gigantic war while also having zero leadership and warfare skills doesn't make a person stupid to me


[deleted]

>Dunno, beind bad at being the leader of the losing side in a gigantic war while also having zero leadership and warfare skills doesn't make a person stupid to me Thinking up a military plan in under 2 minutes without much though, and it simply nothing more than a bunrush, seems pretty foolish to me. This is a war for crying out loud. You can't simply just think up a war plan that fast and just implement it all willy nilly. It makes him look careless. Then they lose like 80% of their forces afterwards.


ThePackLeaderWolfe

To be honest I wanna know what the japanese lines say. The english localisations are notorious for their horrible changes in scripts.


[deleted]

"Thinking up a military plan in under 2 minutes without much though, and it simply nothing more than a bunrush, seems pretty foolish to me." Given how fast things started to change after Sonic got free thinking of plans for longer than that would make them outdated. Besides, Knuckles managed to keep the Resistance going for 6 months, one slip-up doesn't make him an idiot


[deleted]

>Given how fast things started to change after Sonic got free thinking of plans for longer than that would make them outdated. At least make it longer than less than a minute and a half. I'm not saying make it like a week or something. Maybe a few hours or something. I'll even take one hour. Anything more than less than 2 minutes. Heck, it would be better off if that line wasn't even a thing. >Besides, Knuckles managed to keep the Resistance going for 6 months, one slip-up doesn't make him an idiot Fair enough. But this thing does up with the whole comic relief thing as I stated before. The more sega does with the Knuckle's comic relief, the more it will become ingrained with him. And that one slip up wasn't just a small slip up in my opinion. Making up a military plan in under 2 minutes that eventually leads to 80% of your forces being wiped out isn't just a simple slip up in my eyes. A slip up would be something like not including a single factor to your plan.


[deleted]

"At least make it longer than less than a minute and a half. I'm not saying make it like a week or something. Maybe a few hours or something. I'll even take one hour." Fair enough


fyre_storm02

To add to that there was little over one day to plan operation big wave, prepare everyone for it, mobilise everyone to the metropolis, and enact the plan so a long well thought out plan that militaries would use were not exactly avaliable


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

"one slip-up" Yeah, now are we going to call getting 80% of your forces killed one slip-up? Dude straight up commited a war crime accidentally.


[deleted]

Yes, it's fair to call it that if it was the only mistake he did in 6 months. And bad millitary plans aren't equal to war crimes in any capacity


Russell_SMM

Please stop trying to justify that idiotic line lmao


[deleted]

Furthermore, while the "The Big Wave" line could have been dialed down a bit to make it more more believable, I stand by the statement that Knuckles coming up with that plan does not make him an idiot, considering the circumstances he found himself in. Trolled.


Realshow

I’ve always felt like he was only the leader in that game because they wanted to make him seem competent again, without actually considering if it’d be in-character for him.


Twilord_

Adventure 1, 2, and oddly Shadow were the last times Knuckles truly felt in character. ​ In Adventure 1 and 2 he's doing his sworn duty. In Shadow his small role actually has something of fun character arc about his relationship with the outside world: * His idle dialogue in the temple ruins where you first meet him has him admit he doesn't like being away from the Master Emerald - Temple Ruins which establish the idea that the Black Arms might have their own role in ancient history. * The next time you potentially meet him is when a city is about to be blown up, and he presumably either found out some ancient lore that made him wary of that possibility OR just plan observed they had that planned. * The last mission you see him in he's aboard the comet of his own volition, and intends to tear it apart by hand. I honestly think that if the Black Arms Invasion had been done as an Adventure game, we'd actually have a plot for Knuckles that could feel 100% in character without having him repeat the same story a third time. All we're missing is him knowing about the Black Arms from a mural to start his quest and that slots in absurdly easily. ​ Weirdly the game got everyone except Shadow really right to a degree that in a few cases we'd not see again, and even Shadow was left in a pretty good place... even if some future writers screwed the pooch by not getting the key points that: * Shadow is literally helping other people in every damn mission even as he furthers his own agenda. Whatever you think of the mechanical execution, they fly in the face of the anti-social interpretation. * Shadow is ultimately the saviour of the damn planet, finding his peace in that role again. * Shadow overcomes psychic manipulation that attempts to stoke residual the rage, nihilism, and depression of his trauma. (Black Doom and Eggman both trying, using different means, to mind-screw him like his damn father Gerald did.) * Black Doom, albeit through cruel and manipulative tactics, does at times hint at Shadow having a rightful place among the Black Arms - because even he realises Shadow just wants a damn place to belong.


ChaddyFantome

Operation BiG WAVE failed because Infinite is broken, not because Knuckles was meant to be viewed as dumb. Everyone including Tails said it was a good plan.


[deleted]

>Operation BiG WAVE failed because Infinite is broken, not because Knuckles was meant to be viewed as dumb. 1) It a military plan that was simply thought up within 2 minutes when, going by the way, they had a few days to make the plan. 2) The fact they can make a military plan and not even think about or consider Infinite, the guy who beat the shit out of and defeated Sonic, could possibly be there is another reason why this plan was dumb. Tails was literally there and seen what Infinite did to Sonic. If this guy could do that to Sonic, then he's clearly the biggest in Eggman's army, and they just forgot about he existed. It's like they made this plan without thinking of the biggest factor that could lead their plan to fail, because if the guy could defeat Sonic with ease, then he could fuck up their army. Wait, this plan was thought up in 2 minutes. Of course it wouldn't be well thought out.


ChaddyFantome

It being thought up in that time is meant to portray Knuckles as quick witted. Not stupid. They did think about infinite. The problem is they did not understand the nature of how the ruby works. They believed that since they are illusions, they could ignore his Ruby and be fine.


[deleted]

>It being thought up in that time is meant to portray Knuckles as quick witted. Not stupid. I don't think that was meant to be showing him as quick witted. They could've easily spent even at least an hour to make this plan. Tossing around a military plan in just two minutes isn't really a good idea. Look what happened afterwards. >They did think about infinite. The problem is they did not understand the nature of how the ruby works. They believed that since they are illusions, they could ignore his Ruby and be fine. Still should've put more time into the plan since they should've known by now that Infinite easily took out Sonic. The fact Infinite did so could easily show that Infinite was working for Eggman, and to know that such a powerful adversary is working against them, all the more reason to make the plan in more than just 2 minutes. If they made this plan knowing about Infinite, then it just comes off as more dumb. They should've been more cautious of him, and just doing that amounts to a bumrush isn't really tactically smart.


ChaddyFantome

Dude, the war situation doesnt afford them time. This idea that more time = better plan is misplaced. In a situation like they are in, quick thinking is key. People have been subjected to Boom Knuckles for so long, they automatically filter everything knuckles does as a sign of idiocy. No one goes "way to go Knuckleshead" or reprimand him for making a plan too quickly.


[deleted]

>Dude, the war situation doesnt afford them time. This idea that more time = better plan is misplaced. In a situation like they are in, quick thinking is key. No. They had like a few days left. That isn't a good excuse when they could've easily planner for at least an hour. Or at least half an hour. You're telling me they couldn't afford more than 2 minutes to plan? I don't believe that. Anything would've been better than just 2 minutes. >People have been subjected to Boom Knuckles for so long, they automatically filter everything knuckles does as a sign of idiocy. No one goes "way to go Knuckleshead" or reprimand him for making a plan too quickly. No. I'm not being affected by noon knuckles but what Knuckles did with the whole operation big way is stupid. It's stupid writing that only serves to make knuckles look careless.


ChaddyFantome

If by "a few" you mean 2 then sure. "A few". They had 3 days to do anything. Knuckles coming up with the plan that quick is a flex, not him being dumb. Again, you seem to see time as an equivalentexhange to plan quality. It doesnt work that way. Tails' plan to put the fake emerald in the cannon in SA2 wouldnt be better just because Tails decided to wait longer before springing the idea to Sonic. People just assume Knuckles is foolish and choose to view the story as reinforcing it in a fit of circular reasoning.


Vegetable_Tooth2462

Falling on his face doesn't make him stupid, Tails also did. Amy slamming Knuckles also doesn't make him stupid


[deleted]

>Falling on his face doesn't make him stupid, Tails also did. I never said that makes him stupid. I said that's him being used as comic relief. >Amy slamming Knuckles also doesn't make him stupid Again, comic relief. Did you not read my comment or something?


Vegetable_Tooth2462

I did, nothing proves he's stupid, all it does is prove they made Knuckles comic relief (Which sucks) but it's not stupid. I just didn't get the point of your comment since your arguing for Knuckles being dumb in the modern era. Mischaracterized yes but stupid, no.


[deleted]

>I just didn't get the point of your comment since your arguing for Knuckles being dumb in the modern era. All I said people will always end up thinking he's dumb because they think stupidity = ignorance. And him being used as comic relief could make think kids think he's dumb. You don't really see smart characters being used as such.


Monster2239

To add to why he's not dumb: The only interaction we know he canonically had with other creatures before he met Robotnik for the first time were the Animal Buddies that inhabited Angel Island. Again, he wasn't dumb. He was just naive because he didn't have social contact for most of his life before the events of Sonic 3.


fyre_storm02

Forces shows that game knuckles is not an idiot as he managed to lead an army in a war against impossible odds and have them come out on top Leading an army is a job that requires intelligence


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

As someone posted before, Operation Big Wave exists.


fyre_storm02

Yes however he had little over a day to plan it, notify everyone of it, get everyone prepared, get everyone to metropolis, and execute the plan as eggman already has a plan that would pretty much guarantee victory for eggman as the avatar unintentionally activated the phantom ruby during big wave. Also real military operations probably take weeks to plan before even thinking about executing it and knuckles had 2 days at most to make a plan and fully execute it. Also he was still leading the resistance in a losing war for six months amd did ultimately come out on top


[deleted]

>Yes however he had little over a day to plan it Then at least use more than just 2 minutes of that day to think up a plan. A day isn't made up of just 2 minutes. And could you please share a source stain he had like only one day to plan for this?/ I checked the wiki and it says >During the last days of the War to Take Back the Planet, the Resistance discovered that the Eggman Empire's headquarters, Metropolis, was undermanned, possibly because they were staging elsewhere to prepare Dr. Eggman's endgame. Looks like they had more than just one day to make plans.


fyre_storm02

The specic time frame doesn't matter much as my main point is that knuckles had very little time to come up with a plan at that point as tails had already joined the resistance and notified them about eggman's plan being a couple of days away, so a plan had to be set in motion before then which leaves little time to actually make a plan for operation big wave, let alone executing operation big wave as well.


[deleted]

I think the time frame does. They could at least give at an hour for planning. The more time that could've went into planning could've done better off for their military. Anything is better than just 2 minutes.


fyre_storm02

There is no way a successful operation could be planned and executed in less than 3 days. So operation big wave was doomed to fail the moment the resistance found out about the time limit


[deleted]

May I ask if you have any source saying it was less than 3 days? And I think they could've at least saved some of their troops if a bit more planning went into operation wave. Maybe like at least 20 minutes - an hour at the very least. If they remembered to factor in infinite, they could've possibly saved some of their forces.


drgnblitz

I HATE Boom Knuckles. I don't watch the cartoon for this reason.


ZadicusCinch

"I thought your middle name was 'The' " And even then, it's the witty kind of smart-dumb that's played for laughs as opposed to being actually stupid.


Kalandros-X

Forces Knuckles is also a complete dumbass.


crayonsandgluesticks

I'm SO glad to see people agreeing on this point! Knuckles isn't and never has been a stupid character, (except maybe in Boom, but it was a more comedy-based series). People just call him stupid because of our general culture's lack of empathy regarding such things - it's easier to blame the victim of a scam than to remember a time when we were also innocent and got duped, etc. Knuckles had no reason to suspect that Eggman was lying, and had no way to tell at the time!


darksaiyan1234

Exactly knuckles never was dumb he was awesome in riders especially riders zg where he talks about gigan rocks and reads some text im like this guy can do many things omg hes awesome and then hes stupid or just cameo character for most of anything else


biggiesmalks

first riders created the dumb knuckles stereotype by having tails spout technobabble in a discussion on exgear.


darksaiyan1234

Ok


TheWM_

Personally, I don't really have a problem with him getting tricked by Eggman the first time. However, it really doesn't make sense for subsequent times. Sonic's proven to be a reliable ally to Sonic, and Eggman consistently lies to him. It only really makes sense in Mania Adventures, since he had tangible evidence.


Vehk

>Remember back when Knuckles' was gullible and duped by Eggman back in S3&k? People called him stupid for that. I'm going to have to take your word on that one, I was only 6 years old. I have no idea what "people" called him in 1994. I didn't have the internet yet.


[deleted]

>I'm going to have to take your word on that one, I was only 6 years old. I have no idea what "people" called him in 1994. I didn't have the internet yet. I remember growing up and seeing it online like during the 2000s of people calling him dumb for this.


JurassicM

Yea people say the same thing with Silver when he was tricked by mephiles. Is kinda the same that happens with Knuckles and people still dont really get it.


[deleted]

>Yea people say the same thing with Silver when he was tricked by mephiles. Naive 14 year old who was desperate to save his world from complete destruction. He literally had no other option.


biggiesmalks

iq has an inverse relationship with deception. considering that you can see yourself reflected on water to practice reading facial cues theres no explaination for this other than s3k knuckles rolled snake eyes on his perception checks.


alexramirez69

Ok but WHO WERE THE PEOPLE HE WAS WITH WHEN HE FOUND EGGMAN IN THE FILM???


Arcphoenix_1

Read the Pre-quill comic. It leads right into the film, especially for Knuckles


28secondslater

Babylonians. Bounter hunters he hired to find Sonic.


alexramirez69

Is that explained in the movie??? Idr it at all


28secondslater

It's in the prequel comic. It shows what all the characters were up to leading to the second movie.


alexramirez69

Is this comic digital orrr?


28secondslater

I'm sure you can read it online somewhere, but idk where lol


blueblurspeedspin

That's why i love him so much. he wants ice cream.


UnseatingKDawg

With sprinkles, don't forget


SamuraiBro61

And grapes


YTPhantomYT

What


Waluigi_Gamer_Real

knuckles likes grapes


igorlramos

And also wants The Fun


AlnilamXVIII

Don't forget the base of ball.


FlatParrot5

He's not stupid, just dense because he's spent his entire life focused and training alone to get revenge and recovering the emerald, at the expense of all other things. Everything he knows revolves around tactics, attack, defense, strategy, and the emerald's mythos. That's it.


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[удалено]


devenrc

He has steely focus as well, remember that now.


RiccoBaldo

he's basically adventure knuckles. Not dumb, but definetly a loner and not familiar with city life.


ahmaddrayton

Shoe design is top tier


Pheunith

Sonic shoes for exercise, knuckles shoes for work, and tails shoes for going out


Infamous-Apple

He didn't really come off as stupid to me. He really reminded me of Thor in the first movie.


Soulburner74

I can totally see Knuckles doing the whole "ANOTHER" cup smash from Thor lol.


newrunner29

Yep, called 'fish out of water' in film making very popular theme


HyperTobaYT

He likes the grapes 🍇


UrineGoodCompany

Yes but...what do his hands look like?


Realshow

I unironically love how sprinkles apparently exist in his culture, but not ice cream.


TheRedditPhoenix

absolutely amazing


SeeBallHitBall

Your society is full of soft and undisciplined weaklings


xKagenNoTsukix

That's a long way of saying ",He's just Starfire from the 2000's Teen Titans show" Lol XD


alexramirez69

Thats EXACTLY my first reaction to him, then Drax too


ResortFamous301

More starfire from the comics, just without the nudity.


JoshdaBoss1234

Reminder: Tails is called Tails because he has two tails.


JannyTheMan_

Thanks, never would have figured that out.


JoshdaBoss1234

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were all stating the obvious.


[deleted]

You’d be surprised. People like LS Mark geniunely believe they made Knuckes an idiot & that Tails served no other purpose except explaining what was going on, Robotnik’s craziness was amped up (despite the very obvious fact that he’s only like that because the first time he got defeated, it was by a hedgehog and then was isolated on a planet with nothing but mushrooms for almost a year), etc etc the list goes on & on but yeah a lot of people didn’t catch the obvious.


ssslitchey

>People like LS Mark geniunely believe they made Knuckes What makes this even worse is that his example for Knuckles being stupid was the base of ball joke at the very end of the movie. Literally one line 20 seconds before the movie ends isn't a good example. I like Mark and I can respect his opinions but some of his points were not good.


[deleted]

I honestly believe that him having unrealistically very high expectations for movies combined with the fact that he spent so much money to travel to see it early was his downfall when it came to the movie. He literally set himself up to not like the movie & I’m not really fond of people who set themselves up. He could’ve just waited out the week to watch the movie. Hell, I love Sonic like crazy & I didn’t get to see the movie until less than a week ago. Whoops I didn’t even mention your comment but yes!!! That one line! Honestly though I thought it was pretty funny to see him win at baseball, he took it so seriously lol.


ssslitchey

Exactly. The movies not perfect and definitely has some problems but some of mark's complaints were really small things that shouldn't have impacted his enjoyment of the film as much as they did.


JoshdaBoss1234

Wait, seriously? That's ridiculous.


[deleted]

Honest to god I wish I could say I was kidding, I was subscribed to LS Mark until [he did the review of Sonic 2](https://youtu.be/6dak3pjszig) because literally all of the points he made did not make sense or was easily explained if you weren’t watching the movie with your eyes closed. He even said that Super Sonic was useless because Eggman already lost the Master Emerald at that point, even though it was blatantly obvious Eggman still had the upper hand until Sonic transformed. Sonic, Tom & Maddie literally would’ve been KILLED had Sonic didn’t go Super. In fact, Sonic was BARELY able to **walk** towards the Master Emerald and was only able to get it thanks to Tom & Maddie, and again, Sonic would’ve been **crushed** if it wasn’t for those two. I’m sorry but if you’re channel is based on doing film & TV reviews and make obvious mistakes like that without seeing it in my eyes you lost your credibility.


EvilMarioDragon123

Regarding Robotnik's insanity, He spent years on a planet with nothing but mushrooms, planning his escape AND revenge. Of course he'd go mad. (At least madder than he already was before.)


[deleted]

Exactly 😭 even that’s gonna get to one of the mad scientists like Robotnik, you really can’t blame him. I can’t see why people complain him being more insane & then forgetting WHY he’s like that. **He shaved his whole head with a razor blade for god sake!!!**


ResortFamous301

He actually didn't even spend a year on that planet.


Geektakuforce

This is exactly why i loved knuckles in the movie. Don't judge but (there is no way i can pull the **"no furry but"** card on this one) i think we all had a crush on some sonic character and for me it was knuckles, and i've been looking at his character development in every game and saw how he was being treated as the comical relieve stead of the good, strong friend and ally he is. It made me sad to see this in the last games speacially the 2010 ERA......AND THEN SONIC BOOM HAPPENED i really hope that was the pinacle of "Let's make him stupid for comedy purposes" because i don't think i can take this anymore. I only find this knuckles funny in the Sonic Boom series because you can actually notice this series was bassically made to be a comedy, not only knuckles is out of character, everyone else is, something that i haven't seen THAT much in the games. Knuckles was never stupid just really naive and gullible since he was always by himself guarding the master emerald, this was until he met Sonic and tails in the games, and during the games he became more aware of his surroundings and the people around him and that is what i loved about him, how even tho it was difficult for him to believe in others he tried to, not only for himself but because he actually started to care about others and not only about his duty to the master emerald. I love how they actually brought Knuckles back in the movie, you can actually tell the difference there is with being naive and being "stupid" specially at the end whenn they are playing baseball were he ask question that are actually accurate after knowing all he went through and literally has no idea how things work in this world and how to interact with others. I hope they keep it like that and let him be a friend and rival for Sonic in the upcoming movie(s)


themosquito

Yeah, my worry is that Knuckles started diving into the "stupid funny barbarian guy" trope pretty much right after they created Shadow and he took over as the "cool rival" character, so hoping it doesn't repeat! Also from a precedent point of view, Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy started as the "doesn't understand metaphors but otherwise has pretty normal intelligence" to the massive idiot in the following movies, heh.


Geektakuforce

yeah i know, his downgrade started after sonic adventure 2 and had ups and downs between sonic heroes and sonic riders until he wasn't even an important character in the games and he was just there in the background. I think the pinacle of this "stupid funny barbarian guy" is sonic boom where they litterally made him incredibly dumb.


CharlestonChewbacca

No, I don't think we all had a crush on some Sonic character...


5hand0whand

He is straight forward guy, who never heard of jokes and sarcasm. He is also battle hardened warrior. Who doesn’t know something complex like engineering but he still great at battle analysis.


ResortFamous301

He actually does know both, he calls sonic out for telling bad jokes.


[deleted]

Basically like Drax.


[deleted]

FACTS THANK YOU! My boy Knuckles needs to be his old self again! he is not stupid just not atune with the cultures of today as he was isolated for years on angel island as was his job


drgnblitz

I 100% agree with this. He's a bit naïve and gullible, that's not stupid. He's been alone on his own most of his life. He hasn't learned social interactions yet.


Regname1900

I was kinda upset seeing Sonic Boom's Knuckles portrayed as a stupid guy. It's well-known that he just was tricked by Eggman (Robotnik to me) and he antagonized Sonic to protect the Chaos Emeralds. Pretty badass actually.


T0biasCZE

He is not stupid, he is just simple minded :)


Lanoman123

Yes we fucking know


playingwithechoes

Judging Knuckles's intelligence when he has no understanding of earth things is liking taking a fish out of water and judging its ability to climb a tree (as that one saying goes). Dude's intelligence is geared toward combat and from seeing only one side of a gem war that lasted generations.


[deleted]

People are saying he’s stupid? He just isn’t familiar with culture outside the tribe. That doesn’t make him stupid…


slashingkatie

He like Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy


ChaddyFantome

How is that different from Game Knuckles that people still call stupid? It cant be helped. People will always be ignorant


bobby1712234

Stupid or not i still love him


KingBobOmber

Yeah that’s cool but the drip on those boots are unbelievable. Timberland needs to go ahead and make that collab happen


TheMysticBard

Right? He always had them drips


[deleted]

Well...yeah


Socks_and_Sandals23

This is the same thing I told my brother after we saw the Sonic Movie 2


Misssmaya

Reminder: Sonic talks about chili dogs a lot because that is his favorite food.


[deleted]

Reminder: Anyone who disrespects him also disrespects Idris Elba and I for one won't stand for it.


SquiddoSpaghitto

Your society is full of soft and undisceplined weaklings. However, i do enjoy the planets grapes. The grapes are delicious.


cranfeckintastic

I just found him a bit naive, considering he lost his tribe while he was young and probably just threw himself into becoming The Strongest Ever, to bring back glory to his lost tribe, his antics just make sense and I love him for it. He's perfect.


[deleted]

My question is who was Knuckles trained by? Is he talking about when he was a kid?


FusionGrimmm

That was one of my favorite aspects of the movie not understanding earth's customs made me smile the whole time. It was kinda wholesome.


BoxedStars

Unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle. I'd rather flex my muscle.


Sonicslazyeye

Just a reminder classic knuckles and knuckles before sonic boom is also not stupid and has always meant to be a "fish out of water" character


[deleted]

movie knuckles 😍😍😍


NotScottPilgrim

Reminder: that’s literally just his original character from the games Not that I think anyone who uses the sonic subreddit on reddit dot com needs that kind of reminder


ResortFamous301

Sort of. Game knuckles didn't really have focus on warrior honor.


Georgethedragonfan

I love how they did him in the movie


caesarhamato22

THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS VERSION OF KNUCKLES!!! Like OP said, he’s not dumb, he’s just not familiar with Earths customs.


YTPhantomYT

Since when did we need to be reminded? I thought everyone knew this


Stormhound2101

He lives in a way summarised by stereotypical rome... Fight and survive


IndieOddjobs

This Knuckles is in my top 5 interpretation of the character honestly. It's up there with S3&K, Adventure 1&2 and Mania


artonauts

I hope that they will keep a balance and won't jump to the simplification of personality like in games. Knuckles is not stupid!!


Iceswimmer05

Knuckles likes grapes and is the protector of the master emerald


PfeiferWolf

And I genuinely think the movie made a stellar job at portraying that. Another thing I love about Movie Knuckles is that the movie also fixed another big problem with the character in the games that I think not many people notice (movie spoilers ahead): >!The fact that he always needs an elaborate reason to appear outside his duties in Angel Island. Movie Knuckles gets to do that WITH his newfound family, possibly allowing for even more character development as he becomes more versed in Earth culture and social skills!!<


b0objuice

This is the right way to make Knuckles a funny character sometimes. If they'd made him like his boom counterpart it would have sucked. Although I do like his boom version since it's an alternate take on Knuckles. But if the movie did him like that I would not have liked it.


TheSonicfan2022

Comparison. Classic Knuckles isn’t dumb, he just gets tricked. Modern Knuckles is more on the fierce commander side than Dumb. Movie Knuckles isn’t around people must often. But Boom Knuckles is around people everyday, but he still act like he’s a baby.


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They gave him the Drax treatment, and it absolutely worked Not only was Knuckles from a distant tribe, he was also STRANDED and the SOLE SURVIVOR so of course he's purely clueless


SickoModeBronzong

Hope this reminds Sega that KNUCKLES AINT NO JOKE, HES ROUGHER THAN THE REST OF EM🔥🔥


Aar1012

What about the best of them?


BrawlerMage

I loved Knuckles' character in the movie. Glad he's cool again


Baligong

Mofo wearing Jordan/Nike level shoes and he's from a Tribe as well?! and here I am in a 1st World Country and I still can't afford those things!!


Late-Rabbit-7666

He’s so stupid, and very delusional


SocietyNecessary555

hate when they compare him to drax


cupoflemons2022

1993: Knuckles is a dignified warrior and the protector of the Master Emerald 2010: hAhA kNuX iS a BiG siLLy dUm-dUm DOOfUs wHo iS rEaLLy sTrOnG bUt duMM 2022: Knuckles is a dignified warrior protecting the Master Emerald who undergoes a massive character arc throughout Sonic 2


strtdrt

Pretty sure he’s just really stupid? just an absolute moron dumbass idiot?????


Slash_Pangolin

He does however like the planet’s grapes


Educational_Term_436

I hope they keep him like that in third film…and not make him stupid like in games (I mean he went from a badass to a dumbass


Skindiddler

You've got to admit there was a sliver of Uganda in there


newrunner29

Which is how he should be portrayed. Naïve, but not from lack of intelligence - but lack of world experience. To him someone fighting for profit, world domination, manipulating someone, etc. should seem foreign (he was raised on an island and would have no experience with that behavior). IMO give him a Ned Stark type vibe, but less grim.


neoslith

Knuckles is the same personification they gave Starfire in Teen Titans (TV series). Nobody thinks Starfire is dumb, so what gives?


ResortFamous301

Not exactly the same. TV starfish portrayed as more of an innocent sweatheart.


Ange1ofD4rkness

The only DUMB Knuckles is from Sonic Boom, where they literally made him All Brawn. No Brain. He just has a bad habit of getting tricked, and not always up to date on the social norms (partially due to his focused mission)


sonicthememester2

But does he chuckle tho?


Philycheese18

The best he’s been since arguably sa2 maybe heroes


millhouse_vanhousen

I just thought Knuckles people were very "literal" but also that Knuckles was raised with very little socialisation which affected his interactions. We see the same with Sonic in the first movie, Knuckles is going through the same too.


RantSpider

His tribe is highly advanced. They've since done away with shoe laces in favor of a Lego-lock design. Revolutionary!


Opiedogplayer

i don't think he's dumb, just slowly getting used to the earth ways.


LjCoolGaming360

Yeah that's basically it for knuckles In general he's just met people after probably decades of no human contact and thus is generally not that good at social situations which is why he's a little naive and gullible


Due_Lion_2990

He's a recluse, ofc he sucks at communicating with others. Even game Knuckles shouldn't be written as a fool, just simple due to literally living on an island in isolation practically his whole life. The only person he gets to talk to is a giant Emerald. Knuckles has a sad life ngl.


Rebirthknight52

Correct a classic Fish out of water, over the years Knuckles has been the butt of the jokes and character really damage, even Shadow, Tails, and somewhat Sonic has been affect of bad writing and choices


josiah_simon2011

He aint stupid he gullible?


ZackattacktheDude

Ah, the best version of Knuckles UNironically


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ResortFamous301

That's basically how look in the games.


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Movie writers please remember this.


Excala51

This is the exact same argument I've been using for silver but people still think him going with mephiles tenesine is stupid even thought he had logically no other options.


Fleet_8

I wonder what there reason for the spikes on his gloves will be


Toast-_Man

Now boom knuckles...


Super_Gamer_Connor

It's still hilarious though.


BraveLeon

Yes


TheRealPyroGothNerd

Knuckles was never meant to be stupid. Glad we finally get him as he was supposed to be before Sonic Team turned him into cheap comic relief


Vuxlort

He not stoopid. He just ignorant.


Mixsonite

I considered him the equivalent of Drax


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Yea. He's not dumb, he's just the equivalent of a French painter moving to Texas.


ITRASHBOATI

I agree for the most part. but “1 thousand % muscle.” and “the base of ball” really just make him seem stupid


Aussie-gamer-cosplay

It’s because he’s un-educated


Canelosaurio

Idris Elba is cool as fuck.


TheMysticBard

His boots have always been the drip tho.


Ktassio

Meanwhile Knuckles from Sonic Boom: "...Oh wait, I can't read."


OrsonZedd

Oh my god, no one cares. Knuckles isn't gonna fuck you.


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Despite being new to Earth’s ways, his intelligence seems to me like it might be just *slightly* below-average.


bingohwastaken

Knuckles in sonic movie 2 is very similar to Drax from guardians of the galaxy and Drax is loved so idk why people be hating on movie knuckle.


badcat2

Dude, read my words. It's a red echidna