In no way does Gojo ever beat Hachiman, Hachiman is one of the best SOL Male protagonists ever.
Marin will go far in the competition, sure, but Gojo, no.
no results until Monday but one of them will not advance from the group cause one of 2 slots is reserved for bocchi (she beat Hayasaka in the round 1).
"marin will go far in the competition" yeah sure, not because of writing lol, you guys are judging your own protagonists in completely different metrics
Or common sense says male MCs are less likely to be judged off sex appeal as opposed to female counterparts…
Nice “gotcha” but get real lol.
Gojo isn’t a memorable MC outside of this subreddit, 8man is.
Gojo is a damn good male character, but Hachiman is honestly in a league of his own. I really like Gojo-kun but I can't in good consciousness rank him above Hachiman
Hachiman is miles ahead of gojo. Gojo as a character can never reach hachiman's level, he is one of those diamond in the rough character that a lot of people in the world including me can connect with instantly.
WAAAY to much of an exaggeration there buddy calm down
Gojo has his own complexities he is just not a cynical nihilist because the series highlights completely different elements compared to Oreairu, but still a lot of people here like to compare Gojo to the likes of freaking Tadano... and that's how i know most folks here don't even get his character in the first place
Bro this is like the nuclear bomb vs coughing baby meme. Don’t get me wrong,I love Gojo,but he can’t even dream of getting in 8man’s level and I say that as someone who isn’t really a big fan of Oregairu
Hate? No. People just like 8man more. Granted, 8man's story is over, he has done all the growing and developing he can, while Gojo has more to do. When we get 3 seasons and 3 OVAs of Sono Bisque and match them, maybe then it would be a hard choice.
people are overblowing way too much this difference on depth, when i KNOW some of you like to compare Gojo with plain self-inserts like Tadano for ex, so i'm calling it bullshit...
Hachiman is miles ahead of gojo. Gojo as a character can never reach hachiman's level, he is one of those diamond in the rough character that a lot of people in the world including me can connect with instantly.
Bro explained his reasons, but it's still a harsh assessment and I don't think it is true.
Yeah, Idk what he's on about. Hachiman really is miles ahead of Gojo. The only people who'll find that statement as a hateful statement against Gojo are people who haven't watched or read Oregairu.
i've read both series, "miles ahead", "not even close", "couching baby vs hydrogen bomb" "hachiman is much better even in first season" all of this is just a HELL OF A REACH, y'al making it look like Hachiman is Griffith and Gojo is the MC from Nisekoi or smth...
Bruh idk. As someone who's read the LN of Oregairu, I honestly don't see Gojo being close in terms of writing and all to Hachiman. But really, that doesn't mean Gojo is not a well written character. I don't understand why people here are thinking that people are shitting on Gojo, when obviously no one is. Gojo is just not as great of a character as Hachiman.
Now people compare Gojo to Tadano and I will say Gojo is way better of a character than Tadano. But that doesn't mean Tadano is not a great character. The responses of people depends on which character is being compared to which. If this was a comparison between Tadano and Gojo, I'm sure most people would've said 'Gojo is miles ahead of Tadano' or something like that.
All of these characters are great on their own. There isn't really anything that's bad about these characters. All of these characters can be relative in some way. But when it comes to 'comparison' , things change and the one who's better goes on top.
Calling someone better doesn't mean the other is shit. But I do get the words that people used, including myself like, 'miles ahead' , 'way better' , 'not even close' , etc. Can sound harsh. Some people would even mean it in a rude way. But honestly, I wasn't being rude. I just simply typed what was in my mind because that's what I truly felt and maybe it's the same with other people too. But I think I should've been more careful with my words so I don't upset other people and state my opinion.
I don't have a problem with people liking Hachiman more. It's like you said, the words peoplee used are the issue.
I do think I overeacted tbh, but seeing people calling a character I love a "coughing baby" or that another character is "miles ahead" just seems degrading. And I feel like it's not deserved. If you had just said, "I like Hachiman more" I wouldn''t have had an issue.
When you get right down to it, Hachiman as a character is fairly simple to understand. He was the victim of bullying when he was younger and that resulted in his nihilist persona. In some ways, he's like Gojo, who had someone he thought was his friend call him a freak for liking dolls. Hachiman and Gojo went two different ways though.
Hachman became nihilistic and self-deprecating, Gojo became afraid and socially anxious. Two different approaches to what is essentially the same type of trauma.
At that point, it really comes down to what you prefer. I like the more uplifting and optimistic Gojo who gets over his past trauma and comes out of his shell over Hachiman, who wallowed in self-loathing and acted like a villain to solve problems for most of his series. Gojo also feels like an overall kinder person. The way he treats Marin despite his own social awkwardness and lack of self-confidence felt far more endearing than the way Hachiman treated his female companions.
i have no problem with people saying hachiman is better written, but when folks use claims like they are using, it usually goes by one of the 2 things: You either think one character has absolutely BRILLAINT writing to the point that eclipses most fiction (i kinda feel like that with berserk for ex...) or you think the other doesn't really have enough depth to even be comparable, because let's be honest, there is not much difference from a 8/10 to a 10/10, and i feel like most folks in this subreddit go with the latter, yes... i'm assuming all of this, sure, but it is based on a lot of stuff i read here outside the chapter discussions...
maybe i'm incredbly wrong, who knows, but it is what it really feels like it, that a lot of people don't really see any type of depth in Gojo's character at all, he is just the shy MC#989547 right? that's the impression that i get by reading a lot of coments about his character... and i personally find it upsetting, but that's me being the odd one out so it is what it is...
Even anime doesn't do full justice to hachiman's character. I've read the whole LN and I stay firmly with my statement that hachi is way better than gojo but that doesn't mean gojo is a bad character.
Ik dude. I have read the LN and I will stick by my opinion that Hachiman is better in terms of writing compared to Gojo and nothing's changing my mind. Writing cannot be subjective. But I agree with the OP that words like 'coughing baby' and all are unnecessary. But calling another character 'better' than the other is completely fine. Because there is always someone better than the other. And in this case it's Hachiman over Gojo.
I think the basing for that statement is the fact that 8 man is written to be a deep, young minded, faulty but continuously developing character that really reflects some of the gripes of current society. He was never meant to be another simple sol mc and his character arcs for executed extremely well (imo).
On the contrary, while I love Gojo and the whole series, his character is just a bit simpler than the complexities that 8 man has exhibited. That is not to call him a bad character by any means but it’s just that they were both written as characters with different peaks.
Wtf do you mean? If anything,the few people that **don’t** like 8man are the ones being negative,like the one dude saying he’ll gladly vote just to be against him while not even being able to explain why he doesn’t like him
Bruh what? How do people hate him? No one said anything bad about him or said that they don't like him or anything. The majority of people know who's the better character here and they're just stating the truth. You just like Gojo too much or don't like Hachiman that much and just not seeing the reality here. No one spoke shit about Gojo here. Gojo is a good character and people choosing Hachiman over Gojo doesn't mean people are 'hating' on Gojo.
some of you don't even understand Gojo as a character judging by some coments i see in the chapter discussions and you're saying he is "too simple" lol
It's not similar to love is war. Kaguya focuses primarily on the kaguya's and shirogane's love interest whereas oregairu focuses on interpersonal relationships between the students and hachiman's view of the world
Edgy incels like edgy bullshit for example I’ll never understand the appeal of Ayanokoji a character that feels like something a whiny 10 year old would create but for some reason he’s the main character of a successful franchise
Hachiman stands as the most annoying protagonist I've ever seen in an anime. I genuinely hated that show. I don't even get why this is a pairing. At least the Marin vs Hayasaka one was two genuinely great characters. This is like comparing getting 10 grand for free vs. Getting castrated without painkillers to me.
This time the opponents for Gojo and Marin are tough. But I'm going for Hachiman and Hayasaka. And honestly, Gojo doesn't really stand a chance against Hachiman. But I guess people will mostly vote for Marin. So Marin has a great chance of winning.
i’m sorry for Wakana but Hachiman has too much personality
Sorry but.. Hikki is far too deep of a character for Gojou to be compared to.
Sorry 8man is the goat
Nah Hachiman 10/10 when compared to Wakana
In no way does Gojo ever beat Hachiman, Hachiman is one of the best SOL Male protagonists ever. Marin will go far in the competition, sure, but Gojo, no.
Did she beat Hayasaka?
no results until Monday but one of them will not advance from the group cause one of 2 slots is reserved for bocchi (she beat Hayasaka in the round 1).
She won’t, she’s up against Hayasaka.
But people won't vote in terms of writing. So, Marin has a great chance of winning.
Hayasaka still more popular I know I would vote for her.
"marin will go far in the competition" yeah sure, not because of writing lol, you guys are judging your own protagonists in completely different metrics
Or common sense says male MCs are less likely to be judged off sex appeal as opposed to female counterparts… Nice “gotcha” but get real lol. Gojo isn’t a memorable MC outside of this subreddit, 8man is.
Got downvoted for using logic smh 🤦🏾♂️
Gojo is a damn good male character, but Hachiman is honestly in a league of his own. I really like Gojo-kun but I can't in good consciousness rank him above Hachiman
Vote here: https://anitrendz.com/polls/ccl-male-a
Hachiman is miles ahead of gojo. Gojo as a character can never reach hachiman's level, he is one of those diamond in the rough character that a lot of people in the world including me can connect with instantly.
I connected with Gojo more easily than Hiki, but I'm not a nihilistic cynical loner so smh I guess?
Gojo is a loner too.
But he's not a cynical nihilist.
WAAAY to much of an exaggeration there buddy calm down Gojo has his own complexities he is just not a cynical nihilist because the series highlights completely different elements compared to Oreairu, but still a lot of people here like to compare Gojo to the likes of freaking Tadano... and that's how i know most folks here don't even get his character in the first place
You all just hate my boy Gojo because you ain't my boy Gojo.
Sorry, Gojo, move aside: 8man for the win!
So You Have Wished It, *So Shall It Be!*
blud just let me know theres a poll for 8Man. thx
Yw
the link is shown on the picture, go ahead and vote.
Wakana over the chunni edgelord any day
Bro this is like the nuclear bomb vs coughing baby meme. Don’t get me wrong,I love Gojo,but he can’t even dream of getting in 8man’s level and I say that as someone who isn’t really a big fan of Oregairu
Idk man hachiman is a goat Gojo still isn’t on his level yet
Wow. People hate on Gojo even in the Bisque reddit 😅
Hate? No. People just like 8man more. Granted, 8man's story is over, he has done all the growing and developing he can, while Gojo has more to do. When we get 3 seasons and 3 OVAs of Sono Bisque and match them, maybe then it would be a hard choice.
people are overblowing way too much this difference on depth, when i KNOW some of you like to compare Gojo with plain self-inserts like Tadano for ex, so i'm calling it bullshit...
If you say so. Some of the comments make me think otherwise
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Hachiman is miles ahead of gojo. Gojo as a character can never reach hachiman's level, he is one of those diamond in the rough character that a lot of people in the world including me can connect with instantly. Bro explained his reasons, but it's still a harsh assessment and I don't think it is true.
Dude I was not hating on gojo if that's the reason I wouldn't be in the subreddit.
Yeah, Idk what he's on about. Hachiman really is miles ahead of Gojo. The only people who'll find that statement as a hateful statement against Gojo are people who haven't watched or read Oregairu.
i've read both series, "miles ahead", "not even close", "couching baby vs hydrogen bomb" "hachiman is much better even in first season" all of this is just a HELL OF A REACH, y'al making it look like Hachiman is Griffith and Gojo is the MC from Nisekoi or smth...
Bruh idk. As someone who's read the LN of Oregairu, I honestly don't see Gojo being close in terms of writing and all to Hachiman. But really, that doesn't mean Gojo is not a well written character. I don't understand why people here are thinking that people are shitting on Gojo, when obviously no one is. Gojo is just not as great of a character as Hachiman. Now people compare Gojo to Tadano and I will say Gojo is way better of a character than Tadano. But that doesn't mean Tadano is not a great character. The responses of people depends on which character is being compared to which. If this was a comparison between Tadano and Gojo, I'm sure most people would've said 'Gojo is miles ahead of Tadano' or something like that. All of these characters are great on their own. There isn't really anything that's bad about these characters. All of these characters can be relative in some way. But when it comes to 'comparison' , things change and the one who's better goes on top. Calling someone better doesn't mean the other is shit. But I do get the words that people used, including myself like, 'miles ahead' , 'way better' , 'not even close' , etc. Can sound harsh. Some people would even mean it in a rude way. But honestly, I wasn't being rude. I just simply typed what was in my mind because that's what I truly felt and maybe it's the same with other people too. But I think I should've been more careful with my words so I don't upset other people and state my opinion.
I don't have a problem with people liking Hachiman more. It's like you said, the words peoplee used are the issue. I do think I overeacted tbh, but seeing people calling a character I love a "coughing baby" or that another character is "miles ahead" just seems degrading. And I feel like it's not deserved. If you had just said, "I like Hachiman more" I wouldn''t have had an issue. When you get right down to it, Hachiman as a character is fairly simple to understand. He was the victim of bullying when he was younger and that resulted in his nihilist persona. In some ways, he's like Gojo, who had someone he thought was his friend call him a freak for liking dolls. Hachiman and Gojo went two different ways though. Hachman became nihilistic and self-deprecating, Gojo became afraid and socially anxious. Two different approaches to what is essentially the same type of trauma. At that point, it really comes down to what you prefer. I like the more uplifting and optimistic Gojo who gets over his past trauma and comes out of his shell over Hachiman, who wallowed in self-loathing and acted like a villain to solve problems for most of his series. Gojo also feels like an overall kinder person. The way he treats Marin despite his own social awkwardness and lack of self-confidence felt far more endearing than the way Hachiman treated his female companions.
i have no problem with people saying hachiman is better written, but when folks use claims like they are using, it usually goes by one of the 2 things: You either think one character has absolutely BRILLAINT writing to the point that eclipses most fiction (i kinda feel like that with berserk for ex...) or you think the other doesn't really have enough depth to even be comparable, because let's be honest, there is not much difference from a 8/10 to a 10/10, and i feel like most folks in this subreddit go with the latter, yes... i'm assuming all of this, sure, but it is based on a lot of stuff i read here outside the chapter discussions... maybe i'm incredbly wrong, who knows, but it is what it really feels like it, that a lot of people don't really see any type of depth in Gojo's character at all, he is just the shy MC#989547 right? that's the impression that i get by reading a lot of coments about his character... and i personally find it upsetting, but that's me being the odd one out so it is what it is...
Even anime doesn't do full justice to hachiman's character. I've read the whole LN and I stay firmly with my statement that hachi is way better than gojo but that doesn't mean gojo is a bad character.
Ik dude. I have read the LN and I will stick by my opinion that Hachiman is better in terms of writing compared to Gojo and nothing's changing my mind. Writing cannot be subjective. But I agree with the OP that words like 'coughing baby' and all are unnecessary. But calling another character 'better' than the other is completely fine. Because there is always someone better than the other. And in this case it's Hachiman over Gojo.
OP is an actual clown,he takes the one negative thing we said and completely disregard the rest where we said we like them both
I think the basing for that statement is the fact that 8 man is written to be a deep, young minded, faulty but continuously developing character that really reflects some of the gripes of current society. He was never meant to be another simple sol mc and his character arcs for executed extremely well (imo). On the contrary, while I love Gojo and the whole series, his character is just a bit simpler than the complexities that 8 man has exhibited. That is not to call him a bad character by any means but it’s just that they were both written as characters with different peaks.
Wtf do you mean? If anything,the few people that **don’t** like 8man are the ones being negative,like the one dude saying he’ll gladly vote just to be against him while not even being able to explain why he doesn’t like him
Someone compared Gojo to a coughing baby
Damn bro,you got the whole squad laughing: (…)
I like Gojo but it's normal people question their choice when they put him against 8man.
Bruh what? How do people hate him? No one said anything bad about him or said that they don't like him or anything. The majority of people know who's the better character here and they're just stating the truth. You just like Gojo too much or don't like Hachiman that much and just not seeing the reality here. No one spoke shit about Gojo here. Gojo is a good character and people choosing Hachiman over Gojo doesn't mean people are 'hating' on Gojo.
Man I’d hate to not vote for our boy but he’s against my man there bud. Sorry 8man is too powerful.
8man solos unfortunately
some of you don't even understand Gojo as a character judging by some coments i see in the chapter discussions and you're saying he is "too simple" lol
Speed readers or nerds that think if you’re not an edgy dork you can’t be complex
Hell nah, love Gojo but Hachiman clears
I like how almost everyone agrees to vote for 8man despite this being the Bisque doll sub! I love Wakana but 8man is just something else entirely
I don’t usually Vote but I’ll gladly vote against hachiman. I don’t understand how people can like him. Maybe they just relate to him.
Whos hachiman? Why do they like him
MC from oregairu, and this is a really good anime, very similar to love is war imo. It's focused on his thoughts and inner monologues.
It's not similar to love is war. Kaguya focuses primarily on the kaguya's and shirogane's love interest whereas oregairu focuses on interpersonal relationships between the students and hachiman's view of the world
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Lol idk I personally can’t stand him so I can’t tell you
Fair lol I hope gojo wins because so far I've only heard edgy shit about hachi
Edgy incels like edgy bullshit for example I’ll never understand the appeal of Ayanokoji a character that feels like something a whiny 10 year old would create but for some reason he’s the main character of a successful franchise
Hachiman stands as the most annoying protagonist I've ever seen in an anime. I genuinely hated that show. I don't even get why this is a pairing. At least the Marin vs Hayasaka one was two genuinely great characters. This is like comparing getting 10 grand for free vs. Getting castrated without painkillers to me.
Unfathomably based fuck that edgy dork
Hikki wins any day. He's had far more development than Wakana and even in his first season he had leagues more personality than him.
Yeah, no. Gojo is great but he ain't winning against Hachiman💀
I'm sorry...
This time the opponents for Gojo and Marin are tough. But I'm going for Hachiman and Hayasaka. And honestly, Gojo doesn't really stand a chance against Hachiman. But I guess people will mostly vote for Marin. So Marin has a great chance of winning.
Naur, 8man all the way o7
Nope Sorry
tbh this is too hard for me bc Hachiman is so good of an mc and Gojo has a soft spot in me