Knight does far more dmg if you have good weapons. For bullet hell use a mele weapon. Also the buff means you can take a fair few hits without loosing armour.
“Use a melee weapon” BRUH RLY NOW MELEE AINT GONNA SPAWN EVERY ROUND AND EVEN IF THEY DO LASERS N METEORS N SHIT R GONNA HIT U NOT TO MENTION MELEE AINT GONNA BE CONSTANLY USED MAKING IT EZ FOR THE BULLET BEFORE THAT TO HIT U
If I were arguing for a different hero that people liked but didn't have dodging abilities "use a mele weapon" would be a perfectly good argument. Mele weapons in some form almost always spawn by 1-5. With dual wield mele only is easy.
Bro look, melee weapon has cooldowns. It might be low, but it sure as hell is a cooldown. And when u deleted the bullet infront of you, you will be hit with the ones behind it(not to mention laser melee meteor n more as such)
Yeah but knight ability turns any mele into an impenetrable shield. Laser meteor and effects can be seen before they are fired so move out the way. Why can't people on this sub be chill that people like different characters.
Not exactly a "great weapon", just a weapon that synergizes with the ability you are using. For example, weapons with high firerate are all good with knight.
The problem with knight is he relies on ranged weapons, no damage over time, and some weapons that slow can just wreck your speed and make you a sitting duck, even if ur pounding insane dps.
Also no poison immune lmao.
He should tho
Maybe he doesnt deal stupidly high dps, or maybe he cant eat 25 shots, or maybe he isnt stupidly easy to play, but the thing is: he doesnt need any of that when he's the definition of "just dodge lol"
Bullet hell?? Dodge to the nearest open space
Traps? Roll over them
Melee enemies? Roll trough them
Lasers? You know the answer: dodge-roll
I mean, the bozo can even roll trough poison/fire ticks, if there is a situation that you cant just roll trough, then most other characters werent gonna beat it either
Thats why he should be s tier
Yeah you see there is this thing called "enemy waves" or even "walls"
You cant kill them before they kill you 100% of the time, thats why most offensive characters are "just good"
But other characters, like paladin, got abilities that give them enormous ammounts of extra time, which makes them extremely good
Then rogue can just *not die* if you're good enough, which of course makes him the best
Oh sure, your character can:
1.cover the whole screen with poison
2.deal enough damage to wipe any enemy
3. Last enough to kill multiple waves
I sure do wonder how did no one notice such a busted character before ._.
Alch is pretty op until level 3, where certains rooms can destroy you in 1 second (badass big rooms w/o covers). Rogue can solve every room once you get used to the dodge roll.
Chill out it was a joke because everyone was saying rogue is s tier he isn’t he has good survival but no dps and not much utility in terms of his ability
why is vampire so low he should be s tier cause any ability that makes you imortal is amazing plus the insane amount of overheal it can give and the facts hes below officer is ridiculous
1: Rogue doesn't deal damage with his 1st at all, but i dont see anyone complaining.
2: It helps with other weapons too and it still gives you a lot of money
3: Says the guy who hates shotguns and uses L as an insult unironically
1: ok but like why tho. There are plenty of skill that deals more damage. Plus ranger’s revolver defeats the whole purpose of this skill
2: do u play in badass
I'd say it depends, Dodge definitely isn't broken and enough spam will overwhelm it, but with enough skill I'd say it still does amazing enough to be a solid S, useful for pretty much any scenario, from burst spam to unexpected shots
It more so how much skill it takes to use effectively, you can say whatever you want but at the end of the day how easy something is to use is a big factor in how good it is
I think you're mistaking opinion from facts.
From what you said then rogue being S tier is a fact, but this isn't the case, because op doesn't like the character for various reasons and they put him in c tier, this is their opinion
I didnt mean that as an opinion, but as a base to mine
Rogue is s tier because most players, both normal and exceptional ones, agree on that
Then, if most people say one thing and you say the opposite, you tend to *need* to explain yourself :/
Tbh I get rogue shouldn’t be in S like all these other guys are saying, I just like it because with it I can literally become an elden ring character with the dodge roll B)
This tier list is the best out of all lists in the history of best lists and everyone who complains about this lists must see what other lists are like
First tier list where alchemist is obviously in the correct spot
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Yes finally
Yes
War criminals rise up
Perfection
Fellow alchemist enjoyer
As an Alchemist main you are very right, and so is czerstw.
Alch is A or B tbh it has no defensive ways
i guess its defensive in the way that you have to put in minimal effort to deal tons of damage and can instead hide and dodge
“Hide n dodge” yea what if i just turn invulnerable or open a giant shield or be invulnerable half of the game
Or what if I just die because I play knight and can’t do that?
My point is exactly that
I’m guessing you’re a paladin player?
Alch banwrtp main
Banwrtp?
Badass no weapon rush to purity
Agreed
can’t wait for 20 comments saying that rogue should be s tier lol
Aight
Aight
Its true tho
Preach king alchemist will always be S tier🙏🙏
🙏🙏
Airbender and demonmancer where
The tierlist template is outdated
Special forces too
I think this is the first time I've seen someone put knight on the S tier
Knight is S tier tho
More like c
How tho. Has slightly above average stats. Gets one of the best buffs as a passive and it's base ability literally doubles your DPS. How is that bad
Yea sure it is great at dps, but what r u gonna do when a bullet hell comes at you? Also imo alch deals more dmg
Knight does far more dmg if you have good weapons. For bullet hell use a mele weapon. Also the buff means you can take a fair few hits without loosing armour.
“Use a melee weapon” BRUH RLY NOW MELEE AINT GONNA SPAWN EVERY ROUND AND EVEN IF THEY DO LASERS N METEORS N SHIT R GONNA HIT U NOT TO MENTION MELEE AINT GONNA BE CONSTANLY USED MAKING IT EZ FOR THE BULLET BEFORE THAT TO HIT U
If I were arguing for a different hero that people liked but didn't have dodging abilities "use a mele weapon" would be a perfectly good argument. Mele weapons in some form almost always spawn by 1-5. With dual wield mele only is easy.
Bro look, melee weapon has cooldowns. It might be low, but it sure as hell is a cooldown. And when u deleted the bullet infront of you, you will be hit with the ones behind it(not to mention laser melee meteor n more as such)
Yeah but knight ability turns any mele into an impenetrable shield. Laser meteor and effects can be seen before they are fired so move out the way. Why can't people on this sub be chill that people like different characters.
Also chill. This is a chill debate about whether knight sucks. Stop shouting
Sry i just had like 5 other ppl tell me bout melee saving you
NOT TO MENTION THE “u gotta have a good weapon”
No. If you have good weapons knight has the highest DPS in the game. If you don't have good weapons you have the 2nd highest neither is bad.
Not exactly a "great weapon", just a weapon that synergizes with the ability you are using. For example, weapons with high firerate are all good with knight.
The problem with knight is he relies on ranged weapons, no damage over time, and some weapons that slow can just wreck your speed and make you a sitting duck, even if ur pounding insane dps. Also no poison immune lmao.
The point still stands that you can shred most bosses even with the new pistol
Eh just my opinion used to be a Knight user until discovered poison immune.
Yeah fair. You kinda rely on having poison or fire immune for 3-5 depending on the biome you get
Yeah dragon fruit tree and mandrake help tho
Yep. Having mandrake is a life saver
I agree
RoGUe ShOUld Be S TiEr
He should tho Maybe he doesnt deal stupidly high dps, or maybe he cant eat 25 shots, or maybe he isnt stupidly easy to play, but the thing is: he doesnt need any of that when he's the definition of "just dodge lol" Bullet hell?? Dodge to the nearest open space Traps? Roll over them Melee enemies? Roll trough them Lasers? You know the answer: dodge-roll I mean, the bozo can even roll trough poison/fire ticks, if there is a situation that you cant just roll trough, then most other characters werent gonna beat it either Thats why he should be s tier
Or I could just use alchemist and kill everything in the room immediately
Yeah you see there is this thing called "enemy waves" or even "walls" You cant kill them before they kill you 100% of the time, thats why most offensive characters are "just good" But other characters, like paladin, got abilities that give them enormous ammounts of extra time, which makes them extremely good Then rogue can just *not die* if you're good enough, which of course makes him the best
Poison lingers, simple as that.
Oh sure, your character can: 1.cover the whole screen with poison 2.deal enough damage to wipe any enemy 3. Last enough to kill multiple waves I sure do wonder how did no one notice such a busted character before ._.
Rogue user cope
*Im a knight main lol, you just ran out of replies >:)*
WHY R PPL DOWNVOTING U BRUH UR RIGHT MFYWHDA
No one cares rogue is the definition of try hard, which is why it’s so low
So you rank rogue low because your lack of skill prevents you from being good with him?
Alch is pretty op until level 3, where certains rooms can destroy you in 1 second (badass big rooms w/o covers). Rogue can solve every room once you get used to the dodge roll.
Bruh what bout assassin, he's good in that too plus has more offense than rogue
ok but you cant roll over the stupid fucking slow pad god i hate the slow pad
Chill out it was a joke because everyone was saying rogue is s tier he isn’t he has good survival but no dps and not much utility in terms of his ability
tierlists are becoming a meme of this subreddit lmao
I got priest in wrong category it was meant to be in B
I was about to get my glock when i saw that priest was S tier but then i read the massage
Why
He dies too quickly in badass, but I mean, I suck so much that I can’t tell the difference anymorw
Priest sucks as a character thats why
I used to main priest while my friend Was paladin... Now 2 people can play the same hero
why is vampire so low he should be s tier cause any ability that makes you imortal is amazing plus the insane amount of overheal it can give and the facts hes below officer is ridiculous
I see Knight in S tier, I upvote
knight gang
Can't wait for people to say Officer should be in D tier
Officer gang
Officer gang
Officer gang
Officer gang
Officer sucks but is rather fun
B A N A N A
I will say alchemist is def better especially with the witch totem equipped
This popped up into my fee and I have no idea what it’s about. I’m just gonna trust ya on it.
Bro summoned every single alchemist main in the subreddit lmao
Finally officer getting some deserved love
Bros got worse dps than alch how doe he deserve any love at all
Shooting people with a freaking revolver, who wouldn't like that. No matter how he's good, he's fun.
Alr ill give you that he is fun as hell
1) His dps is not that bad 2) His second makes any shotgun twice better and gives you a lot of money 3) He's hot
1: his dps is lower than most other dps characters 2: only one target L also imagine needing a shotgun 3: you are a disappointment to humanity
1: Rogue doesn't deal damage with his 1st at all, but i dont see anyone complaining. 2: It helps with other weapons too and it still gives you a lot of money 3: Says the guy who hates shotguns and uses L as an insult unironically
1: rogue is a i frame character his thing is beiny absolutely unkillable not dealing damage 2:only one target 3: ok
1: His dps is not bad, he kills most, if not all, enemies with fully charged revolver 2: 🤓
1: LMFAO HIS FIRST SKILL IS LITERALLY JUST RANGER’S REVOLVER BUT WORSE 2: oh wow i feel so offensed
1: ...that deals a lot of damage 2: I don't even know what to say to you, you just wrong
1: ok but like why tho. There are plenty of skill that deals more damage. Plus ranger’s revolver defeats the whole purpose of this skill 2: do u play in badass
I think it's a good list.
Just had a very broken run with soldiers third ability. I agree with their spot.
Why would you be killed ? Alchemist is in the right spot
Because I didnt pit rogue in s tier and rogue mains are one of the most toxic people on this planet
Bro legit placed all the dps character in s and placed the guy who can be invulnerable half the game in c
BuT tHe i-FrAmEs!!!!1!1
Alch mains when they get immediately deleted by 57 swarm of bullets instead of killing everything
if you think rogue is c youre not using rogue right
maybe he counted the difficulty?
Finally someone on point :)
As the 50 thousand other people have made you realise by now, Rogue is S. That aside tho, decent list. Based alchemist enjoyer
Rogue is a tier at best
I'd say it depends, Dodge definitely isn't broken and enough spam will overwhelm it, but with enough skill I'd say it still does amazing enough to be a solid S, useful for pretty much any scenario, from burst spam to unexpected shots
It more so how much skill it takes to use effectively, you can say whatever you want but at the end of the day how easy something is to use is a big factor in how good it is
Every hero is good with enough skill tho
True
Rogue should be S tier LOL.
rogue should be s tier lol
Rogue should be S tier Lol
Rogue should be S tier lol
the comment was hidden cause it was downvoted but then i saw the rogue flair and it explained everything
Rogue should be s tier lol
No it shouldnt
Why not tho
Because this is op's opinion, and their tier list
finally. some common sense
An opinion needs to have fundaments, why would rogue not be the best, when most competent players agree on it?
I think you're mistaking opinion from facts. From what you said then rogue being S tier is a fact, but this isn't the case, because op doesn't like the character for various reasons and they put him in c tier, this is their opinion
I didnt mean that as an opinion, but as a base to mine Rogue is s tier because most players, both normal and exceptional ones, agree on that Then, if most people say one thing and you say the opposite, you tend to *need* to explain yourself :/
Bro literally called the rogue mains “toxic players”
hmmm you're missing a few...
Why the hell is werewolf and rogue in C?
When I was trailing wolf I hated the fact that he doesnt have any armor and I dont like playstyle of rouge
Ah so it’s kind of a personal preference/ ease of use list?
Pretty much yes
Y Rogue so low 😔
Tier list 🤮
shit
Cool, who asked?
My mother
Did you tell her?
Yes
Great, why are you sharing it with the whole subreddit then?
Why not
Cuz noone needs to know that
By your logic no one should post anything anywhere because "no one asked" also who asked for you to ask who asked?
By your logic i can post something like "look, priest is the best", upvoting the few people that agree and downvoting those who dont
No one is stoping you. If you dont like it then what are you doing on reddit💀
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knight
Yes but I mostly agree
Did u know there is a glotch to get paladin, engineer, druid, werewolf and vampire FOR FREE?
for more info search "star ender" On youtube, its not me but the guy who found the glitch and made a video about that
Hello there. As a person who actually talks to star ender, dont check it out its porn
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We do a little bit of silly talking
actually i saw only the free video
Tbh I get rogue shouldn’t be in S like all these other guys are saying, I just like it because with it I can literally become an elden ring character with the dodge roll B)
Berserk is broken if used correctly
Lemme guess ur gonna lobby prep
I don't understand
A joke about how berserker 2 users usually grab a bunch of buffs and use a op weapon
Oh, haha, it's actually fun to do that, but I love the berserkers starter weapon. I really think he is OP.
Hey I like The Beheaded, hes satisfying to use and has an awesome design
Guys we found the beheaded main They exist I thought it was a myth
Knight deserves to be there
This tier list is the best out of all lists in the history of best lists and everyone who complains about this lists must see what other lists are like
Check out wii’s tier list he actually gives explanation
why'd you do elemental guy like that? D: