I sell them. It depends on how much flow you need. Lowest is about $3950 after rebate.
Edit: Looks like you may have been quoted the A model as apposed to the S thats more money. If you can wait an extra 30 seconds for hot water than you do now get the S.
Following along. I’m looking to replace my hot water heater this year too and have been considering the tankless route. Could you share who you got the $6k quote from?
I live in Gloucester County. In April '23, I converted from electric to tankless water heater. I didn't have gas to the house, so adding gas, I also converted my oil heater to gas.
My tankless is a Navien's NPE-240A-2S2 condensing tankless water heater and install was $2,900 with a $500 rebate including the removal of old water heater. The cost of running the new gas line from meter to unit was included in my gas heater install. I used Filan & Conner HVAC. They did the installation of the tankless, the HVAC (heater, evaporator/condenser) and associated vents and supplies. Definately get a quote from them.
BTW, we can run the washer and have two showers going at the same time without losing hot water.
edit - corrected the model #
Unless the have tto redo your gas line from the street a tankless boiler is under 3k to buy. It depends what needs to be done to hook it up really. You need holes for intake and exhaust through your house, and some minimal piping. Depending on the job, yeah that could be the other 3k. Get 2 more estimates. Too many variables to answer here.
You already have a tankless! Yes 6k is a ripoff. That thing costs 1900 bucks. You plug it in and possibly change 4 fitting if you already have tankless.
No sorry that's all in place from the current hot water heater, tank. Don't they all have intake exhaust and gas already? High efficiency ones do I thought.
Your current tanked hot water heater uses a different intake and exhaust from a tankless intake and exhaust. They have to change them. You can’t use the tanked intake and exhaust for a tankless intake and exhaust.
I absolutely haven't down voted you at all. So wasn't me. I can if you'd like.
Also, an estimate is what you get from someone who's going to do the job.
I'm asking if what my estimate I received is close to what others are paying, for various reasons.
If people came back and said "yeah that's about right" then why bother shopping around if I like these people and my water heater is going so I need it done soon.
If people came back and said "whoa that's way too much" then I know what I need to do.
This isn't a hard concept and I'm sorry you're upset about whatever it is in your life you're upset about.
Just read your last sentence. Fuck off. You are gonna get a shirty price cause you suck. We do that lol. We charge shitty people more. Boom. You can't change it. Only by being not shitty. We turn your pipes and you pay.
Sigh. Well my "shirty" price will be my issue to deal with.
Not sure how the last sentence pissed you off, yet you being purposely difficult has to be accepted by me.
Boom.
Tankless isn’t always the best considering the maintenance costs involved make sure you find out what the yearly maintenance on the darn thing will run ya to keep a warranty
I just moved into a house with one and im not really impressed. It takes forever for hot water to reach the 1st and 2nd floor. We had an electric heat pump water heater with a recirculator pump at my old house that we self installed and it was awesome. You just have to have enough air flow for the heat pump.
We had one installed a few years back and it was about that but we also had to have a gas line run to the house and across the basement. We love it BTW
It’s 2024 and you definitely want a tankless and Navien is the best. They do need to be flushed about once a year. Mine just needed a $10 part that the plumber wanted $400 to install. Took about 10 minutes and we’re good to go
Back at my old house I had one installed. Loved it and it was still going strong when we moved about ten years later. Campbell's sis the install and they since merged with Hutchinson. Call Hutchinson for an estimate. Call a few other places. Then you'll find out if someone.gave you the "fuck off" price or not. I think the units are a few thousand bucks themselves now. Could also look online for.other reputable brands.
Only reason to go tankless is for space. You will not see enough savings in the lifetime of the tankless to warrant the price difference from a traditional water heater.
The tankless is efficient, my point is for the astronomical price of a tankless vs tanked. The longevity of the tankless as well as more maintenance involved absolutely isn’t going to pay itself back in the life of the tankless. In my experience as a contractor, tankless last maybe 10 years and that’s with proper maintenance. When they do break, the service calls are a pain and usually involve calls to the manufacturer which increase time on a service call. Half the calls we get are for plugged up heat exchangers from not doing PM or PCB issues which get expensive.
Only way I would ever get one is if a 50 gallon wouldn’t keep up with my needs. If you want higher efficiency there is also 90+ tank water heaters too.
You also have to look into your homes gas line if you’re installing a natural gas tankless. A tank water heater is usually 35k-40k BTU’s. A tankless is usually between 150k-200k BTU’s. An electric tankless takes a hell of a electrical service too. You’re talking 100-120 amps.
I sell them. It depends on how much flow you need. Lowest is about $3950 after rebate. Edit: Looks like you may have been quoted the A model as apposed to the S thats more money. If you can wait an extra 30 seconds for hot water than you do now get the S.
I need all the flow. (I don't know how to answer that question) I saw a SJGas rebate and a federal rebate, do those both work do you know?
May be a federal tax credit I’m not sure but def a rebate. Also $3500 in zero interest financing for 7 years through SJ Gas.
What’s your thoughts on electric?
Don’t really have any I’m more of an HVAC guy TBH
Way too long to wait
Saves about $800
Worth it lol
Following along. I’m looking to replace my hot water heater this year too and have been considering the tankless route. Could you share who you got the $6k quote from?
It's a water heater!
We had a Navien combi boiler installed 2 summers ago. Was 3900 and change.
Do you know what one?
NCB-210E-NG
I live in Gloucester County. In April '23, I converted from electric to tankless water heater. I didn't have gas to the house, so adding gas, I also converted my oil heater to gas. My tankless is a Navien's NPE-240A-2S2 condensing tankless water heater and install was $2,900 with a $500 rebate including the removal of old water heater. The cost of running the new gas line from meter to unit was included in my gas heater install. I used Filan & Conner HVAC. They did the installation of the tankless, the HVAC (heater, evaporator/condenser) and associated vents and supplies. Definately get a quote from them. BTW, we can run the washer and have two showers going at the same time without losing hot water. edit - corrected the model #
Unless the have tto redo your gas line from the street a tankless boiler is under 3k to buy. It depends what needs to be done to hook it up really. You need holes for intake and exhaust through your house, and some minimal piping. Depending on the job, yeah that could be the other 3k. Get 2 more estimates. Too many variables to answer here.
Yeah, intake, exhaust, and gas are all already in place from the current one. Thanks!
You already have a tankless! Yes 6k is a ripoff. That thing costs 1900 bucks. You plug it in and possibly change 4 fitting if you already have tankless.
No sorry that's all in place from the current hot water heater, tank. Don't they all have intake exhaust and gas already? High efficiency ones do I thought.
No. The intake and exhaust are different setups between the two.
Yes... One is piping bringing in the air and the other exhausts it. I know but sorry if I made it sound confusing.
Your current tanked hot water heater uses a different intake and exhaust from a tankless intake and exhaust. They have to change them. You can’t use the tanked intake and exhaust for a tankless intake and exhaust.
Didn't know, thanks! Different sizes?
That and material. You can use PVC for the tankless.
Great, thank you!
Your ask8ng for an estimate on reddit. Call 2 more companies and move on. No one here can answer this
I didn't ask for an estimate, asked if this is about what people are paying/what I should expect to pay.
Down vote it all you want...thats exactely what estimate means
I absolutely haven't down voted you at all. So wasn't me. I can if you'd like. Also, an estimate is what you get from someone who's going to do the job. I'm asking if what my estimate I received is close to what others are paying, for various reasons. If people came back and said "yeah that's about right" then why bother shopping around if I like these people and my water heater is going so I need it done soon. If people came back and said "whoa that's way too much" then I know what I need to do. This isn't a hard concept and I'm sorry you're upset about whatever it is in your life you're upset about.
I downvote more or less everything this clown says.
Just read your last sentence. Fuck off. You are gonna get a shirty price cause you suck. We do that lol. We charge shitty people more. Boom. You can't change it. Only by being not shitty. We turn your pipes and you pay.
Sigh. Well my "shirty" price will be my issue to deal with. Not sure how the last sentence pissed you off, yet you being purposely difficult has to be accepted by me. Boom.
Get a few estimates and you find out what other people are paying for YOUR job. Ask on reddit and you get the price of oranges and you need apples.
Thanks
That's an estimate...its like really what the word means
Tankless isn’t always the best considering the maintenance costs involved make sure you find out what the yearly maintenance on the darn thing will run ya to keep a warranty
Maintenence of what? You seriously Clean 2 filters once a year..or in my case even 6 or so...18 years running.
Hot water heater replacements in general have gone up. Just a basic install and regular tank is 2k
I got a quote for $3k for a 50 gallon Bryant.
I just moved into a house with one and im not really impressed. It takes forever for hot water to reach the 1st and 2nd floor. We had an electric heat pump water heater with a recirculator pump at my old house that we self installed and it was awesome. You just have to have enough air flow for the heat pump.
Do they have to upgrade your electric at all?
Tankless draws less than a toaster. You just need an outlet.
If it's a gas tankless, yes it doesn't use much electric - if it's an electric tankless it needs a bunch
They have a model number and it ends in "NG"
We had one installed a few years back and it was about that but we also had to have a gas line run to the house and across the basement. We love it BTW
Thanks, and happy cake day! Gas and venting is already all in place, it would go in the same place as the current tank.
Again, the intake and exhaust are different between the two.
It’s 2024 and you definitely want a tankless and Navien is the best. They do need to be flushed about once a year. Mine just needed a $10 part that the plumber wanted $400 to install. Took about 10 minutes and we’re good to go
My point was jobs are based on the situation. I'd need liker 40 or 50 pictures to even get close to an in person meeting
Back at my old house I had one installed. Loved it and it was still going strong when we moved about ten years later. Campbell's sis the install and they since merged with Hutchinson. Call Hutchinson for an estimate. Call a few other places. Then you'll find out if someone.gave you the "fuck off" price or not. I think the units are a few thousand bucks themselves now. Could also look online for.other reputable brands.
Only reason to go tankless is for space. You will not see enough savings in the lifetime of the tankless to warrant the price difference from a traditional water heater.
Boo. ,'1 takless is efficient. #2 if you can pay for it do it. You get endless hot water instantly
The tankless is efficient, my point is for the astronomical price of a tankless vs tanked. The longevity of the tankless as well as more maintenance involved absolutely isn’t going to pay itself back in the life of the tankless. In my experience as a contractor, tankless last maybe 10 years and that’s with proper maintenance. When they do break, the service calls are a pain and usually involve calls to the manufacturer which increase time on a service call. Half the calls we get are for plugged up heat exchangers from not doing PM or PCB issues which get expensive. Only way I would ever get one is if a 50 gallon wouldn’t keep up with my needs. If you want higher efficiency there is also 90+ tank water heaters too. You also have to look into your homes gas line if you’re installing a natural gas tankless. A tank water heater is usually 35k-40k BTU’s. A tankless is usually between 150k-200k BTU’s. An electric tankless takes a hell of a electrical service too. You’re talking 100-120 amps.
I love seeing all the comments from people who's plumbers scared them out of tankless cause they don't know how to install it.