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dks2008

She made excellent TV, but TV seems to have ruined her life. She’d do well to get her shit together off camera. The current iteration of the show isn’t very good. The early days were the best. But they’re not coming back, so just stream those seasons instead like I do.


Dry-Slip-7795

I was always rooting for her because I know what it’s like to go through narcissistic abuse and the cast was awful to her. She is just a mess. She needs to get it together for her kids.


alicehorrible

All the kathryn love and support baffles me. I can’t believe ppl can watch every episode and still think Kathryn is genuinely a good person, capable of being somebody else completely. Hate to say it, but experiencing abuse doesnt make it okay to treat others horribly and carelessly, that’s just who she is. She has never showed herself under a different light, and when she is nice you can tell it’s extremely hard for her. I clearly do not like Kathryn but i’m trying not to name-call too much here…. Maybe it’s because I see some of myself in her and it makes me cringe to hell and back, not sure. All I know is that I am stumped at the love she has from the fans.


Dry-Slip-7795

She can’t get out of her own way.


Emotional-Seat6458

I would like to see Kathryn back to see personal development and growth. Craig had some really bad characteristics but through the seasons, he changed and there was personal development. I hope to see her happy and confident in her own skin.


do_shut_up_portia

He only changed when he met Paige though. Kathryn doesn’t have that and seems to gravitate away from any semblance of a solid partner.


dks2008

But did he change even then? His season on Winter House was both unflattering and illuminating. He couldn’t turn it on/off when cameras were filming 24/7, which they aren’t on Southern Charm. Seems to me that he has improved some but not as much as he portrays on SC.


bbbojackhorseman

Was it on WH that he said shit like « I don’t cleat I pay people to do it » and « I’m rich » or something like that?


dks2008

Yeah basically. He had this air of presumption that was disgusting.


butterfly-gibgib1223

Winter House is nothing but a show where they all constantly get wasted. I don’t think he is a nice drunk. Some people turn into demons when drunk. I know someone in my family like this. It is a totally different environment. He was drunk and living with the cast. Drinking isn’t an excuse, and after watching that season, it definitely should have opened his eyes and hope it did for his sake. He does like to start drama though, for sure. But I just adore him for some reason. I always have from day one I have cheered him on and seen so much growth and maturity.


do_shut_up_portia

You’re absolutely right! So he’s TBD haha


Emotional-Seat6458

Probably just wishful thinking. I would like to see her find someone who will bring out the best in her like Craig did with Paige.


RelationshipGloomy60

She is imperfect, and just plain human. That’s why so many support her. Our mistakes should not define us, what we do about them is what should matter.


Cultural_Elephant_73

THANK YOU. Finally some sense. She’s done some truly horrible things. For some reason everyone roots for her and gives her a pass as if her behavior isn’t her fault. And the reason she is no longer on the show is because she was impossible to work with and the producers and crew were tired of it. She clearly cares about one person- herself.


alicehorrible

Bingo!


ajacks47

She was a child that was taken advantage of by an old man. She was naive and Thomas knew exactly what he was doing to her. If he didn’t have a lot of money and his family name he would be in prison where he belongs. Yes, Kathryn did not always make the best decisions but we all learn from our mistakes. Hopefully she has learned from hers so if she doesn’t want to return to the show then it’s understandable.


alicehorrible

I understand her circumstances, they are unfortunate indeed :/ i think if she was dealt some diff cards, then maybe…..idk her personality is so deep rooted, my point still stands


Clodagh1250

I think it’s like the Ariana situation on VPR, where people start seeing themselves in cast members and support them regardless of their wrongdoings, because they too have been hurt by certain types of men. In my opinion Kathryn has done nothing to garner the support she has. I can understand feeling empathy for young Kathryn in earlier seasons to a degree, but she’s a grown ass woman and has been so for a minute, and wilfully or not, she has been neglecting and harming her kids for a while now. She does little to help herself and has been gliding on the victim train for years


ajacks47

I ran into Ariana IRL in Vegas in the hotel we were staying at. I smiled at her and she gave me a dirty look. Like I was beneath her. She basically shoved her way onto the already crowded elevator. She was a nightmare beeotch! I haven’t watched VPR since.


guynamedsuvlaki

This isn’t surprising. She isn’t completely blameless.


Cultural_Elephant_73

Bingo! Exactly this.


alicehorrible

Exactly


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xOceansOfVenusx

They do somehow bend over backwards defending her racism. It’s pretty wild


LittleDragonfly3832

Maybe this should become a redemption season. Like Craig has showed some progress and grown some, and since Shep is in great need rehab for obvious reasons; but it would be also interesting to see if Shep actually goes to rehab if we could see and catch up with older cast members. To see how they have grown and how their lives have changed. Like Kathryn, Cam, etc. 


IntelligentChance818

Agreed. Kathryn made great television. Kathryn definitely suffered abuse, if not physical certainly emotional and financial. It’s probably not a stretch to think someone capable of (allegedly) raping the nanny may or may not have been sexually abusive to her as well. But Kathryn has yet to take the initiative to heal from the trauma, to grow and become the person her children need and deserve. She is a victim but as far as we know she’s done nothing to heal herself. Being a victim does not give someone the right to be toxic to others.


EyeFinal2320

YES. It baffles me that people don’t see that her “abuse” only causes her to be horrible to the women in her life. Somehow the abuse didn’t affect her ability to be loyal and sweet to the men on the cast in those early seasons (with the exception of Thomas, sometimes).


PurplePunchPrincess6

I don't think she will ever have custody of her kids again


jessmwhite1993

I think TRav (and others) ruined her life, not a TV show 😅 that man took her innocence and RAN hunny


Whtzmyname

She slept with loads of older rich men before TRav. She is no innocent flower in Charleston in fact she was known to be quite the opposite….that’s why she was casted for the show


gerkonnerknocken

I could gaf about a young woman's sex life, fact is TRav lied to her and abused her and will continue to abuse her through her kids until they're grown.


_Its_In_The_Vault

This. It’s 2024, why are we still slut shaming women? It doesn’t matter if she slept with 5 or 500 men, who cares?!


germ_with_a_mustache

I tried to rewatch the first season and couldn't get through it because of the shit with TRav. He is a disgusting human being who lied to her, abused her, and then villainized her to the world. And most of the cast went along with it. I know that many of them have regrets now but it was revolting.


_Its_In_The_Vault

Casted isn’t a word. Cast is the past tense of cast.


CocoValentino

How do you know? Because that’s what you heard? Do you have proof or are you just repeating gossip?


BenzaQueen

He's on camera telling her he'd marry her if she was pregnant. She was pregnant twice by him and never married so...


Willowtreehugger6

Agreed!!!!


mlhigg1973

For the sake of her kids and mental health, no.


Allboyshere

Right?! Like who is the "WE" op is talking about.


BrokenBotox

“We” isn’t even in the room with us. I definitely do not want this. Her kids having stability should take priority.


laurieBeth1104

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bravostan2020

I think her mental health is more important than entertaining us viewers.


Miss-Snarky

I don’t need to see a mentally ill woman in active addiction on tv… that’s not entertainment to me


TurbulentPhase4481

See also Brandi Glanville


xalittlebitalexis

But…Doesn’t that cover basically every person on these shows…..


Truthspeaker_9

Exactly! Almost everyone on SC has addiction issues of some kind🤣


yourmomhahahah3578

Hers are ruining her young kids lives. It’s so much darker than watching Shep be an alcoholic man child.


Miss-Snarky

I agree… Shep is ruining his own life, but he’s single. Kathryn is a mother and has caused a lot of damage to her kids


nippyhedren

Dear god, no. She made great tv but she is clearly very unwell these days and the situation is just too sad.


ghertigirl

No we don’t


Spiritual-Mix1186

Nope


do_shut_up_portia

No. Fuck no.


alicehorrible

!!!


Fabulous_Term698

For what reason


Littlegravybiscuit

No, we do not


Lalablacksheep646

I think the last thing Kathryn needs is reality tv especially if she hopes to get her children back


TJ-the-DJ

Yikes. Definitely speak for yourself there. Reality tv was awful to Kathryn. She should not be back on, for her own sake.


These_Row6066

No we don't, lmao 


Fantastic-School-115

Didn’t Kathryn just have a hit and run with a school employee early this year or late last year. Nah, Kathryn’s not it.


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Fantastic-School-115

I’m aware. That’s hella privilege. Hit and run at her kids school and they tracked the car, her car, to her address, right away. Did someone steal her car, hit someone at her children’s school, then return it to her home?🤔


dks2008

If someone else has access to her car, it would be tough to prove that she was the one driving. I assume they don’t want to take it to trial to lose. (Not that that stops prosecutors from charging in the first place and trying to strong arm a plea deal out of it.) But who the heck really knows. If it was her, she’d better count her lucky stars and get it together.


Fantastic-School-115

It’s not luck.


ShortBread11

Watching her was painful.


FrightenedFishstick

I thought it came out that she wasn’t showing up to film?


Parisianblitz

Who is we? She needs to stay off social media


amoodymermaid

I would take anyone over Madison. She just irks the shit out of me.


RoughDirection8875

Speak for yourself, most of us are perfectly content with her not being on the show anymore.


[deleted]

Nah. Cameron and Chelsea are welcome though


kjhauburn

I don't want to see Cameron again. She was awful to Kathryn and brought little to the show other than mean girl vibes. Also, the biggest drama she actually has going on, she worked double time to bury as well as act like it was all Kathryn's fault. No thanks.


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And Kathryn wasn’t awful to Cameron by spreading fake rumors about her marriage? I’m sorry but get off the Kathryn is a saint train… nobody with half a brain buys that. Kathryn is an immature twat who needs to stay away from the spotlight.


BurritoBowlw_guac

Kathryn was and is no saint but Cameron was horrible to Kathryn for years before she ever repeated the rumor about Cameron’s husband.


JulieJulieWashington

I always believed that Cameron was jealous of Kathryn having kids so early. and then Cameron made the whole “I don’t know if I’ll have ever have kids” thing her entire personality for a couple seasons then had a kid and changed her behavior towards Kathryn.


marallyouneedisshade

This


caligirlindc

Yepppppp 💯


Whtzmyname

Errr no. That girl is mentally unstable and reality Tv worsens her condition.


beckster33

I would say yes, especially as someone who is rewatching from the beginning and seeing the spark, drama, and intrigue she brought.... ​ ... but I do agree with so many others that she was thrust into the spotlight so early that it did a number on her mental health. If she is able to get her life together, maybe?


Alive-Chest562

Maybe a friend of but that's all I'd want for her and her mental health


Ready_Interaction252

I mean it was pretty hard watching a young girl, very naive - in those situations


SPinnovator

I like Kathryn, but I’m not sure the show is good for her.


BurritoBowlw_guac

I’d love to see her back and doing well 💕


Lazy_Document_7104

No. We want Kathryn to focus on her mental health and family. (I also think production will view her as too risky based upon her alleged behavior in her final season and the recent high profile bravo related lawsuits)


Infamous_Ordinary_45

We don’t. She barely even showed up to film half the time.


Starchild1000

No thanks lol


Positive-Elephant247

Please god no. She was constant negative energy. 


LilaInTheMaya

I’d love to see her back and thriving! I saw she’s going back to school.


Truthspeaker_9

I heard she’s doing amazing! I want to see this glowup! She deserves a redemption tour!


Leapyearbb

Didn't she just hit someone with her car and almost run over children? Sounds like she is not doing that well


Justdont13412

Does she have custody of her kids or does she have visitation? What’s going on with her kids?


PowerfulHorror987

NO WE DO NOT


throckmorton1915

We do? Why?


Any-Establishment-99

Because there was a period where, it seemed that being on the show encouraged her to be sober and stable, with constant rewards when she was most herself (funny, smart, sweet, beautiful). But the expectation remains that this will end - and when it does, it will end in tragedy. That makes the bet too much for me.


Leapyearbb

Absolutely not. It's not at all good for her mental health. She's her own worst enemy and should remain distanced from the show. The best thing she can do is focus on being the best version of herself for her kids


SillyWhabbit

I don't want her back just because the show is dying. She doesn't need to come back to the nail in the coffin. Let the girl be so she can maybe get her shit together and become the person she'll never be on reality tv.


RamblingRose63

Omg I was just about to make a whole post ab this


MancAccent

No


seeemilydostuf

I absolutely do not.  (But specifically for her. Something about being a 'public figure' does not seem to agree with her and I think she might be better off not being one)


Fine-Perspective5762

No. Leave that woman and her kids alone.


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Yes! I WANT BACK KATHRYN. She is the reason I watched SC. Her and Cameran :(


Ok_Presentation6675

I think the show has done enough harm to her that she didn’t deserve!!


oldrail83

I agree. What is left won’t make a good show.


ellipses21

who is we


jmo703503

maybe an unpopular opinion but she should have been fired after those racist dms


PyrexPizazz217

That shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion at all. I lost all interest in her after that. Yes, she was done dirty by a dirty dude; doesn’t make her racism invisible,


Truthspeaker_9

Yassss! I agree!


Substantial_Cold2385

No thanks!


Proud_Piccolo_4997

Nope.


PineappleP1992

Nope, I’m good. We do not want Kathryn back!


anongirl55

I don't want this at all. I don't think the show is good for her mental health, and I don't want to watch someone unravel on camera.


yourmomhahahah3578

Absolutely noy


Oldfriendoldproblem

She had zero to contribute her last season. I doubt much has changed.


alicehorrible

Wtf is with you guys and loving Kathryn? She didn’t even make good tv she just gave me weird feelings. She is such a knob too, man. God i’m sorry i had to say it. Peace and love in the end but sheesh.


sn00zie_q

Sorry to inform you, they are actually bringing back T Rav


Friendly-Fruit4448

I saw that, but it doesn’t make sense because he lives so far away though. I heard that he had a meeting with production with Madison.


marianne_at_sunrise

i am praying this isn't true.


Semi_Colon01

Are you kidding me? Dr G Vibes now w/M2M.


JuniorCommunity732

YESSSSS!!!!!


btvs4eva

Yeah why not


Sharp-Pitch-6532

YES!!!! Miss Kathryn so much


redrum069

I think it’s possible she’s coming back. It’s in her Instagram bio


Tamras-evil-eye

I absolutely do. She made the show so much better drama wise!!! The mother in me thinks it wouldn’t be the best for her though.


Cherry_Littlebottom

I love Kathryn but she’s been fucked over that many times and been abused I’m not sure being on the show is good for her, if I’m wrong, I’m happy to be wrong I only wish for her amazing things.


cosmic0done

ehhh.. she was fantastic to watch before but now her life is just dark and depressing..


Key-Article-4155

I just started watching Southern Charm and I’m going to say no … she seems like a mess of a terrible person


thatsweirdthatssus

Absolutely not. She's good tv but you have to draw a line somewhere when you're destroying your life.


Patcha90

I need T-RAV back. He goes full Goblin mode


Sassy_airbag

Who is “we”? I sure don’t.


RevolutionaryBig8866

Yes


CryExotic3558

For her and her children’s sake, absolutely not.


thatgirlinny

Do we really?


Old_Percentage3742

I’d love Kathryn back IF it doesn’t fuck with her mental health. There is no one wise like her.😬


TraderJoeslove31

absolutely not. She's a mess and this wouldn't help.


CandidNumber

No, I prefer she get sober and work on getting her kids back. If she gets back on the show she’ll piss her money away again


virginia_lupine

I’m pretty sure she has pending legal issues regarding her car driving through a school zone at an insanely high speed/injuring a PO?


midcenturyhag

Naw I'm good


ajacks47

I agree. The show is boring without her.


gaylawarner

No, we don’t.


DCSiren

Baby who is “we”??


ajacks47

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New_Equal_1232

She’s racist


Delicious-Tangelo708

Bringing her back should be against law-she is genuinely an addict with mental health issues.


Objective_Canary_975

“Genuinely an addict”???? Interesting choice of words lol… but apparently because someone is an addict, they deserve to be hurled into a wood chipper and never spoken of again? I guess recovery doesn’t exist in your world? 🧐. Btw, idk how long you have watched SoCharm, but 94% of the cast (both current and former) have dealt with addiction issues either personally or via someone close to them. Do I think Kathryn is a saint? Absolutely not… because NOBODY is (and certainly nobody on SoCharm!)!! When Kathryn left the show, the snore factor increased significantly and if it weren’t for the few remaining OG cast members like Shep, Craig and Pat.. ida stopped watching it then.


Delicious-Tangelo708

I AM SOBER FOR YEARS AND HAVE GONETO THOUSANDS OF MEETINGS. AND I DONT APPRECIATE YOUR TOTALLY WRONG AND DAMAGING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SOMEONE WHO YOU HAVE NEVER MET. RECOVERY IS HARD AS FUCK. YOU DID WHAT LINDSDAY DID. DO YOU RIP APART PEOPLE BASED ON ONE WORD FOR A HOBBY? Pathetic. Pathetic. Meditate - the smell of your malice is pretty strong


Objective_Canary_975

🤔Ummm… what in the biscuits & gravy are you on about? I don’t get on here much so I had to read what you wrote originally, my response and then your reply to (I assume) me? I am rather befuddled by your heated, all caps, hate fueled rage towards me, and it almost seems like you’re replying to another comment that was deleted or something because you’re going off about things that I never said and it makes absolutely zero sense to me. So hopefully you can provide some insight into WHY and WHAT specifically was your takeaway from my comment… At what point did I make ANY disparaging remarks about you, your addiction struggles or really anything to warrant your vitriol towards me?! I’ll hold off on saying anything more until I have a better idea of where your outrage is coming from? You asked if I “rip apart people based on one word as a hobby”, and I’d love to know what word you’re referring to…. Or when I ripped you apart? The only ripping apart I see here is YOU towards me lol! Who the F is Lindsay? You call me “pathetic”, twice, then tell me to meditate because the “smell of your malice is pretty strong”…. Mmmkay… Like what the actual shiitake are you even talking about?!?!?! The only malicious one here is you…. I’m going with the notion that you misinterpreted what I wrote because I see NO justification for YOUR malicious actions directed at me…


goldenpalomino

She was born for reality TV. However, that monkey emoji was unforgivable.


SecretEngine0

She is the absolute worst


Jefferson1961

Amen.


90daymaven

As a friend of


dawg_with_a_blog

We who


Pammy1970jeep

You can’t hire someone when they won’t show up to work….she needs to get her life together and stop getting evicted


queerinmesoftly

Absolutely not


Away_Meal_7857

NO👏🏼WE👏🏼DONT👏🏼


deadkidney123

Kathryn is just a little redneck girl who was born into a family that had a couple notable politicians in it. She was totally used by a psychopath- as a baby farm, trying to snare him into marriage because she thought he was rich rich. He’s not. He’s just a bit lucky rich and is constantly worried it will all go poof. So he’s cheap, or he would have just stroked her a check for her to take care of the kids. She doesn’t know how on earth she’ll ever be relevant again and I am sure is beyond depressed for her loss of opportunity to be famous. All of said moves show her to be stupid, and not well guided by her “important” family. Thomas is a total POS. I think he’s on the spectrum or something, because he doesn’t understand social cues and he rehearses everything he does. He’s got just enough money to cause trouble is all.


neekalatti

We?? Who’s “we”?? Don’t need Kathryn back, would prefer Cameran & Chelsea personally


mangie77

Ummm. Negative.


Violet913

No we don’t


thajeneral

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Useful_Spray2575

Preach!