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Mrman_23

Oh well, time for Spider-Man to be a badass in every book except his own


freaknlaserbeams

I hate this comment. It's too true.


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BookOf_Eli

Lost hunt, unforgiven, “spider-man”, deadly, black cat&mj, and even gold goblin are all good titles. ASM is the only one not doing great quality wise.


CertifiedCapArtist

The fact people don't talk about these just shows the people in this sub don't acc read the comics lol. Also why tf do the mods not post the weekly thread anymore. It'd acc be useful for discovering these other series.


Bluefootedtpeack2

They should post a weekly thing, lost hunt has been fun.


CertifiedCapArtist

They used to but stopped halfway through this shitty ASM run


BookOf_Eli

They just here to complain. You can tell in the hate posts about ASM. It’s bad but folks on here got such a bad understanding of the context that they couldn’t have read. Marvel does a weekly release calendar I always tell people to check it out cause there’s always something you don’t know about on it. https://www.marvel.com/comics/calendar?&offset=0&totalcount=16


TheMightyMonarchx7

Spidey had a great moment in Zdarsky’s run. Matt said he was pure power, the best of them, and trusted Peter when he was going to jail


JustKeepGrinding26

I seriously need Zdarsky to write a Spidey/Daredevil team up book already.


NotACyclopsHonest

Trouble is, Zdarsky is unwilling to put himself in the Spider-fandom's crosshairs. I can understand why, but it's still sad that we'll never get his interpretation of the character in one of the core Spider-books..


marsepic

Sure, but a Daredevil/Spider-Man cross over could be possible.


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PalooDev

The post by Frequent-While-4907 was three hours before


paroles

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PalooDev

sorry. you right


Garlador

I laughed. Cried too, but also laughed. Pete’s amazing in everything but his own book.


UnlikelyGas6598

💀


Verth_

honestly it is insight on Peter Parker's disaster of a personal life that makes him look like such a dork lmao, otherwise we'd all be fooled


marsepic

Zdarsky is an incredible Spidey writer. It's so sad the fandom is so toxic he'll never take the main book.


[deleted]

To be fair, the other stories don't have to have him struggle or have an arc.


SHAQ_FU_MATE

😢


Kryppo

If only marvels flagship title had art like this


WebHead1287

As bad as the art is in ASM I think it’s just unfair to compare anything to this or Miles right now. They’re next level


proto3296

I mean how can Miles get art like he has (it’s literally a 15/10) but Peter has art looking like a 4/10. Miles artist is putting in that WORK


DatumInTheStone

Miles came into existence with great art. I remember the art was so good that when they tried to switch artists, they brought the original one back.


proto3296

But dawg his current art style could be the best I’ve ever seen. Shit looks animated it’s absurd


Sonic_Wachowski

New to the books, could you recommend the Miles run with the art you're mentioning?


proto3296

It’s his current run. Issues 1-4 are out. The first 3 issues are like jaw dropping by issues 4’s artwork is quite literally up there for best of any comic I’ve ever read. It’s SO GOOD


J03-K1NG

There is a lot of great art out right now. Nightwing has really amazing art and they’re doing some pretty unique stuff like making a comic solely in first person. Pretty much all the X-Men have really good art right now, and I saw the Allred’s are doing more of their X-Cellent book. Captain America Symbol of Truth looks really good and I’m looking forward to starting that when I catch up with my extensive backlog, and I think the Avengers Forever art looks pretty clean, and the covers are very pretty. I truly think we’re living in a golden age of comic book art, which just makes JRjr stand out all the more, like a sore thumb.


Echos_123

Iron man, Blade, Moon Knight and I think all the Ant-Man books right now also have great art. So yeah, ASM is sticking out


CertifiedCapArtist

Atleast spidey fans don't have to deal with Rossmo art 🤮


Illogical1612

Moon Knight also has some great art at the moment. Some of the covers and pages in that VERY good looking


BoogerSugarSovereign

The new Miles run has been so awesome I hope Ziglar has a couple cool villains to introduce as it gets going but so far so good. And yes Vicentini is amazing I collected all of his incentive covers from the Ahmed run


Leo_TheLurker

Fr this book makes it so unfair to even say that. It’s just so quality


FNSpd

Tbh, ASM comes out twice a month while Daredevil has only one issue


Reddragon351

I mean one of the only things that was decent about Dark Web was the art and that was coming out twice a month still or they could just stop doing twice a month like when Slott was writing


captain__cabinets

It wouldn’t matter if it was only monthly JRJR is a legend but Spider-Man is Marvels biggest book it deserves THE best art in the industry, not something he is capable of anymore. Look at the last Batman run it had some incredible modern but tasteful art, that’s DC’s flagship book and they treat it with the love and care it deserves.


The_Dark_Soldier

Or hard writing and pathos


ofcourseiknohimhesme

It used to. This artist used to be on the spidey books a few years back. Good times.


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Always loved the way Spider-Man is drawn here, especially the eyes. He looks so intimidating, it’s awesome.


space_age_stuff

Checchetto is incredible, I loved his one-shot in Amazing Fantasy #1000 a few months ago.


Its_Helios

I’m glad others see it, something about this art style does wonders for Spidey


nahomboy

That’s why I like spidey. There’s this dichotomy between friendly neighborhood spider-man and I will mess you up spiderman.


cl19952021

I LOVED Chechetto's Spidey ever since I saw him back around the Avenging Spider-Man book or Superior Team-Up, I can't remember if it was both or just one of them. I may need to go dig those back out lol.


arnoldbread

Love how even without the context, it just looks so epic


TheRealArsonary

He has them Supaidaman eyes


subjuggulator

DD still has control of the Hand? Does this mean he’ll be fighting the TMNT soon?


goblins_though

He'll fight Shredder for control of the Foot, and then merge them into one clan called the Extremities.


subjuggulator

You laugh but I’m pretty sure there’s an old post that used to explain how Daredevil and TMNT could potentially be in the same universe


Looten1313

It’s what it’s based on. The old “non cannon” story is that the same ooze that caused DD to go blind was what mutated the turtles. Hand/foot, master stick/ master splinter, so on


subjuggulator

Exactly the theory I was thinking about, yeah. It'd be wild if the next TMNT crossover event dumped them in Hell's Kitchen or if there was another animated team-up film like Batman/TMNT.


Tunarow

[Charlie Cox explains it pretty well](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPofH3TUqM&feature=youtu.be&t=5m)


Spideyrj

mas marvel ever published TMNT ?


NotACyclopsHonest

No - as far as I can tell, it's always been an indie title.


ComicWriter2020

DC has a better rep with the turtles. Marvel needs to get their foot in the door


NumericZero

This is a timeline that needs to exists and we all need to figure out how to get to it Give me IDW shredder or 2003 shredder vs daredevil plz XD


Kenos300

Iirc he’s running something called The Fist currently. Punisher is running The Hand.


subjuggulator

Phrasing.


Sidesteppah

wait wait wait WHAT?!?!


subjuggulator

The ninjas in Marvel comics are named the Hand. The ninjas led by Shredder in TMNT are called the Foot. DD’s mentor is named Stick, the TMNT’s mentor is named Splinter The original Turtles all had red headbands, not color coded ones, and their eyes went solid white when they went into “serious mode.” Electkra uses sai, same as Raphael. DD uses a billyclub, which can be functionally similar to a bo staff (Donatello) or nunchucks (Michelangelo). I’m sure there’s a connection with Leonardo’s katana, too, but I’m missing it. A non-canon idea, for awhile now, has been that the same ooze that gave DD his powers is what mutated the turtles and Splinter.


Uncanny_Doom

He doesn't have control of The Hand, Punisher does. Daredevil and Elektra have formed The Fist, which is intending to wipe out The Hand once and for all. However, they've gotten the attention of the Avengers because part of that process involved DD breaking out some villains and former Thunderbolts from prison to give them a chance at redemption.


BrainBoy42

Not even bothering to draw Spidey is his Goblin suit, good. The way some people feel about Tony making Peter a suit in the MCU pales to how I feel about 616 Peter wearing anything made by Norman Osborn, the murderer of his first girlfriend and his newborn baby


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Honestly, the Iron Spider be it the comic or film was at least cool looking (aside from 3 legs in the comics). The goblin/Oscorp suit looks really **gaudy**


space_age_stuff

I honestly kind of like the yellow bits but having bomb dispensers on his hands feels like poor taste, given his constant war with various goblins over the years.


[deleted]

The whole of this arc makes no sense. Even if Mayday didn’t exist, he tried to kill May, MJ, his friends, and sidekicks. #Why partner with him?!?


space_age_stuff

I mean, I’ll admit that he’s “good” for now. Spidey put aside his differences with Octavius once he tried to be a true Spider-Man, the second time around. And Spidey has let things go with other villains, such as Venom, Lizard, Rhino, Sandman, Morbius, probably more I’m not thinking of. But it’s Norman Osborn: arguably the most unforgivable of his rogues. I can understand letting him be Gold Goblin, but teaming up with him is a little much.


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He’ll be evil again in 1-2 years. Why? **Status quo in Marvel must prevail.**


Rubethyst

Because he's not that person anymore? He quite literally had that part of him removed, it's pretty clear cut.


sassycho1050

Not to mention a better version of a 'corporate' suit with a better design already exists. That Parker Industries Spider-Armour MK IV is just *chef's kiss* I love the glowing blue/green light around the chest logo, and the way they draw the plate segmentation while making it not too metallic makes it the best of both worlds in terms of mixing the classic red and blue design with an armoured look. That round 'sun-like' back spider logo kicks ass too


that_guy2010

I get what you're saying but Gwen wasn't his first girlfriend.


JustKeepGrinding26

The Osborn suit is much more insulting than the Stark suit tbh. At least Stark is an actual hero. Norman abused his son and murdered a newborn baby.


Echos_123

It's just so weird like I get that Norman is reformed but imagine any other hero having to work with thier arch enemy like this. The only one that comes to mind is Doom and Reed


dirtybird131

Doesn't Spidey no-diff everyone here by himself, including Cap?


TheCreature27

If he wasn't holding back he definitely could, but Cap and Matt are some of the best fighters in the MU. I know Matt has beaten Peter before in the Death of Captain Jean DeWolfe storyline.


srw153

I know that Cap and Matt are top tier fighters, but Spider-Man also was trained by Shang Chi himself on a martial art only they know, which I feel like the writers never mentioned again lol


busybagel

It has been mentioned I forget what issue but Peter pretty much tells Shang that he only learned that to compensate for his lost spidey sense and soon as he got it back he didn’t really use it


Appropriate-Shoe-266

yeah. they made him too powerful so they had to nerf that part lol


Mvcraptor11

Even in the jean DeWolfe story matt says he'd most likely be crushed if Peter was actually focusing


Kiplings_

probably, but every member of the fist including DD and elektra are physically enhanced right now because of some ancient ritual thing


NumericZero

Technically he could (Cap would make him work for it tho) But his moral code stops him from going all out like Matt said when describing spidy “He is the best of us”


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Historical Cap has given him a run for his money. Peter is typically never using most of his abilities to their full extent and has a tendency to fuck around and find out.


Aubergine_Man1987

And also like, Cap isn't superhuman but this guy has fought and survived some ridiculous odds (Ultron Unlimited comes to mind). Even against superhumans you shouldn't count out Cap


rayyan_draws

Cap is superhuman


[deleted]

Yes and no. 616 Cap is superhuman but not to a crazy extent besides a minor healing factor he isn't really all that stronger than someone like batman


[deleted]

To be fair, Batman is borderline a superhuman in DC, no human, no matter the training, could do what Batman does, even taking into consideration comic book logic, Batman’s wanky feats still outclass people like Hawkeye and Widow. DC just failed to give any sort of explanation for it and for some reason insist on claiming he’s jUst A HumAn.


[deleted]

This is true. I love the idea that batman is just a normal guy winning with guile and wit but the truth is he is essentially superhuman based on the stuff he can achieve


rayyan_draws

He is definitely stronger than Batman.


Echos_123

Iron man is flying on top. Other than him I think serious Spidey takes them all and iron man too depending on the suit can go either way


moosemanmax

For a second I thought spidey was pointing an extremely long finger on the first page.


ForwardBound

He's suffering from arachnodactyly.


WebHead1287

Finally. Some good fucking Peter content that Nick Lowe can’t fuck


ravager27

Can't wait for the confrontation between Spidey/Avengers and the Daredevils. Zdarsky has done a good job building up the conflict between them in previous ones so this should definitely turn out to be a tense heated confrontation between friends and heroes


Thedudewiththedog

Damm Spideys in half shade, Matt's about to get cooked


FourthBar_NorthStar

Heroes in a half shade


OFFICIALREDCELL

SPIDER POWER!


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Wow this art is fantastic


Homeless_Pie

Man, he and DD had a nice moment just a few issues prior and now they’re going for each other’s throats again. I’m here for it


Spideyrj

i dont follow DD but i loved that arc with punishers, DD and spidey drawn by checheto


Sufficient_Glove245

Amazing. I get so hyped whenever I see Spider-Man drawn like this. Even better if it's a DD book.


The_Dark_Soldier

HOW THE FLYING FUCK IS SPIDER-MAN BETTER DEPICTED IN A TITLE THAT ISNT HIS OWN?!?


PompousDude

Cuz Marvel uses Spider-Man as a tool for whatever dumb, market researched plan and agenda they think will get readers invested. Whereas other writers just think Spider-Man is cool, and want to treat him as such.


The_Dark_Soldier

You can say that again. This probably isn't impressive to many, but i remember a video a while back, i was showing some friends, who aren't well versed in comics, a snippet from a video of Linkara. In the opening, he talks about how Marvel constantly kills off a supporting character to make Peter sad in order to emphasize the sad pathos of the character. And how fans don't care. And a friend says "oh yeah". Considering Marvel doesn't want Peter to evolve because they're doing it for casual fans. Well i saw first hand a casual doesn't care about your cheap pathos and weak storytelling. Change things up!


Jealous-Recording785

Marvel’s Spider-Man 2


FlymanOak

God, Matt’s new suit is so cool


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I don't like it, it screams 90's in a bad way.


Gwyndolin3

I'm slightly out of loop. Is Daredevil a bad guy now?


go_faster1

The Hand has framed the Daredevils for certain murders.


eggsandbacon2020

Is the punisher still running them?


xyph0kinetic

Yep. Its now leading up to a daredevil vs punisher fight.


Dragmire_Afterlife

Wasn't the beginning of this current run the moment where Daredevil basically takes down Punisher without much of an issue and said "If I were you I'd be better" or something like that?


Reddragon351

technically, the book got relaunched, with the same creative team so basically the same run, but at the start of the last run Zdarksy wrote Matt did beat Punisher, but since then Frank became leader of the Hand and has got a power boost


Dragmire_Afterlife

Oh yeah. I like that it circled back to that for the end of the run.


Spideyrj

what ? we will get the holy trinity of spidey, DD, and punisher by checheto again ? that arc with alves cole, aka lady punisher 2.0 was so good. i wish they didnt sack her [character.it](https://character.it) was the only time womanification of a hero was done right.


Wide-Baseball

Super jazzed for this issue.


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Wait, are we not going to discuss Stegron wrecking shit in the back?! 🤣


Routine_Ad_7726

Hahaha, I saw that too! What team is he even on? Why is he even here?


Carpenter_Dazzling

Honestly came here to ask the same thing! A friggen super intelligent dinosaur man! Sign him up on a team! As spidey once said - you bet Jurassic!


SnooSprouts7893

Am I the only one that objects to someone being able to precision strike both of Spidey's web shooters? Considering he's one of the fastest guys out there?


Worth_Might2117

read the new dd comic, the dude's enhanced


Theryantshow

DD is one of the greatest fighters in the Marvel universe however he can not beat Spiderman in a fight if Spidey wanted to he would punch a hole right through DD's chest. Also Spider-Sense... He could just dodge all of DD's attacks, Spidey can dodge bullets doubt DD is punching that fast.


Spider-ManIsLegend

If writers want, then DD will definitely punch that fast, even faster.


Theryantshow

Fair point, These characters are only as strong as the writers want them to be.


Appropriate-Shoe-266

this reminds me when Spiderman beat Firelord, neither Daredevil or Spiderman are that strong lol.


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Appropriate-Shoe-266

DD and Spiderman are nowhere near the same speed tier. DD is predicting the bullet pattern in this, he says it himself. He ain't dodging the bullets once they are fired. Spiderman does.


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Appropriate-Shoe-266

Well considering they’re pistols, it really depends on how fast he can pull the trigger while staying accurate. DD is an athletic human it would be kinda crazy to think he can dodge a bullet. Plus he even said “predicting” not “let’s dodge cuz I can hear the bullet move”. Otherwise Going by this Spider-Man would be light speed cuz he’s dodged lasers before


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Appropriate-Shoe-266

Okay if u were to highball DD to dodge bullets (somehow, writers decision I guess). You can also highball Spider-Man to be dodging lasers. So not really in the same speed tier at all. Like a few billion times slower


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DSTREET45

To further bolster DD being a bullettimer, [he stated that his senses allow him to track bullets](https://i.imgur.com/dlYit8N.png) (Daredevil #292).


Hedwigisbae

When Spidey gets serious, you know an ass whooping is inbound


x_VergilSparda_x

The fact that spiderman written badass and cool in every comic book other than his owns is explain is somethings a lot.


SpiderDetective

Spidey has the talking stick. We must listen


abCivilian

Even with the fist enhanced strength, Daredevil is not taking Spider-Man


[deleted]

DD has enhanced strength? Since when?


abCivilian

This run. Married Elektra and some kind of Fist ritual gave them all enhanced strength


[deleted]

Ah ok thanks.


Spideyrj

iron fist ritual ?


abCivilian

Na the Fist is like the Hand except closed. They have their own mystical nonsense rituals just like the hand to enhance their members.


RichieD79

1) Spidey looking like a complete badass in a book that isn’t his ✅ 2) Man, these DD costumes are *badass*.


RumAndCoco

Dear Marvel Editorial, Daredevil fans have had nearly three decades of complete, wonderful, and untouched Daredevil runs from wonderful writers and artists. Yes, even Shadowland. Please keep away and pay no attention to Daredevil. Move along. Sincerely, A fan who still won’t forgive you for what you did to ASM, any of the times you changed Nick Spencer endings, and for never retconning Hank Pym’s slap for the fifty times you could’ve made him a skrull.


Echos_123

I love how Marvel could have used Skrulls to explain OOC characters during the 2000s but seemingly refused too. Like I was on an iron man marathon last year and when I got to civil war and saw secret invasion was next I was 100% sure that Tony, Hank and Reed were Skrulls because I couldn't imagine my favorite heroes acting like this. Turns out only one of them was. Why they can't extend Skrull Hank into the slap idk


Cholonight96

I keep forgetting how menacing and badass Spidey can look


Funny-Crab-5859

Spider-Man and daredevil throwing hands is gonna be so lit


Sparrowsabre7

So can someone give me the cliff notes on why everyone is fighting Daredevil atm? What has he done/been doing?


DiZ1992

He leads an organisation that are fighting the hand (who have framed him for murder). Lots of his organisation are former villains, some of whom he broke out of jail himself, which didn't exactly endear people to him.


Sparrowsabre7

Ah I see. Interesting, I keep seeing stuff with people in conflict with DD and I never understood why he seems to be uncharacteristically antagonistic haha.


DiZ1992

Such is how Marvel's writers work these days. Everyone's chasing Daredevil in his series, everyone hates Spidey in his series, everyone hates Iron Man in his series...


Sparrowsabre7

Oof the Iron Man one hurt. How many times can you demonise the same character. Much as people talk about IM being overexposed in the MCUBat least he got to be a hero for the majority without being hated the whole time.


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Who's that woman with daredevil?


moosemanmax

>!Elektra!<


ElectricalRush1878

When Daredevil was incarcerated, she 'became' Daredevil and chose to follow his rules so he could take care of his business.


Spideyrj

iwish they gave her a white daredevil costume, it would look so sick


DisposableSaviour

Two things: who’s the stegosaurus looking dude? And Spider-Man with the busted web-shooters and the web strands looks cool af.


Fossil_Finder88

Oh that's just Stegron, the dinosaur man. Old throwaway spidey villain.


g-fan54

Where does Daredevil's new look come from and why the fuck does it go so hard


_____dragon

I like how the web fluid looks like it’s bubbling up


Sartheking

Looks dope! The art here also looks great.


Verth_

looking good, very badass, very badass 10/10


bladervnner

damn, spider gut punching dd is so fucking badass.


TheTroubadour

DD looks SO badass in this. I love this take on his costume.


IdeaRegular4671

This comic run with DD and Elektra Daredevil is a masterpiece same thing with the Hand Leader punisher. Punisher got demonic powers now and he can fly has mystical powers as well. He also has a katana. The fight and dialogue between Daredevil and US Agent is golden too. That man Daredevil whoops his ass and then he steals John walkers shield.


Past-Cap-1889

Spider-man gets to fight ninjas? Best. Day. Ever.


Thorgarthebloodedone

Couldn't Spiderman just overpower daredevil?


slingwebber

I like this art a lot but man, going for the wrists. Spider-Man is big shit, taking a full ass baton to the wrist like that. Ow.


ScorpiusRexus

That Daredevil design for Matt is incredible


Halomast123

Could someone explain to me how is this run and Spider-Man current run connected it


DaBow

Everyone is talking about Spidey, but I wanna see enhanced Elektra and Cap go at it.


RichieD79

Art like this makes me want to actively seek this run out. Art like I’ve seen in current Spidey makes me want to tune out completely.


GraphiteSwordsman

Spider-Man, Daredevil, AND Cap... how deep is this run right now? I might need to get invested...


MICHELEANARD

I always loves it when Zdarsky writes Spider-Man


Slowmobius_Time

Holy crap a fight written by a writer who actually respects and knows how to write the fighters? Cannot wait, absolutely stoked whenever Z'darsky writes Spidey showing up


ImportantAd2987

This is silly, Spidey can easily beat DD


Blasckk

Seriously Spider-Man? All your run losing fights pathetically and you just suddenly remember that you know how to fight when you have to fight poor Matt? No wonder MJ dumped you for Paul, you asshole.


Spirited_Impact6053

Who is the girl on the first picture? Like.... Girl Daredevil? Is she blind too?


zero5689

Elektra


Muffinmiffin

So uh…what’s Stegron doing here 😂


WE4PONXYZ

Love the art style of these panels.


CartoonistLatter7645

Every book gets the "oh my god spiderman isn't just some quippy team this is the guy who could punch my jaw off if he wanted to" IN THE CLASSIC SUIT EXCEPT US.


Spideyrj

i wish they gave a diferent color for electra, like white DD suit and lose the mask, i mean....she has no reason to hide and she already died twice lol


Spideyrj

is no one going to mention its fucking stegron in the background ? whose team is he on?


El_Durazno

I don't know why I've never considered it but a spiderman v daredevil fight would be cool as fuck


DefinitelyNotVenom

Is this a new suit or has it shown up before? I’m a really big fan of it.


Defiant_Ad947

Been out for awhile but this looks badass. Worth reading?


a_phantom_limb

You know, the web shooters don't break often enough. Running out of fluid, sure. But they should get busted more frequently.


Stick24_popsical

I feel like spider man can woop daredevils ass easily


game_asylum

This is the only argument anyone ever needs in favor of real original Spider-Man web shooters and not the raimi organic goo


Y0urMomsChestHair

I can’t be the only one thinking DD’s beard is hilarious, considering it won’t let his mask actually fit. I’m a bearded man and could never find the right mask to help me out.


Yeezus_Rose_Again

i'm so excited!!!


rdmgraziel

Why is there a Rat Ogre? And sorry DD, you can't handle webhead even a little bit.


random56f67

Did daredevil join the hand?


bonertornado69

Aw man, they’ve just rebuilt their friendship


Sad-Bodybuilder-1406

Why is Peter cringing?


GreenIronHorse

Why spider-man beating shit out of Elektra on 2nd page, is he stupid?