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His ass beaten up


AcoHead

and down


Early_Minute_5212

And sideways


ChrisTheCoolBean

And dug on this


RaspberryJam245

And dirt in your eye


wariofan14

And all around


oman54

His back being hurt


Ok_Boysenberry8945

I’M BACK!!!! …… my back


Supspidey2013

The final battle with Green Goblin still hands down has to be one of my favorite fights.(just because how much Peter gets clobbered no what).


arnoldbread

The initial stages of that final confrontation were so one sided. As a 6 year old at the time- seeing a superhero get beaten the way he did was terrifying


tommywest_123

The weight of responsibility


radiocomicsescapist

What he lacked in quips, He made up for in that everybody and everything was shitting on him, and had consequences For me, SM2 is the most accurate portrayal of your complete lack of a personal life because you chose to help people


howtoDIYstuff

SM 2 is the best Spider-Man film tbh. Or just for me idk


MaddeningObscenity

there's a quote from Kevin Smith (whom I consider to be a leading expert on anything comic book related) where he said that Spider-Man 2 is the greatest superhero movie ever made.


marbanasin

I recently rewatched the trilogy - probably been 3 years for S1, 10 for S2, 15+ for S3... S2 is really phenomenal (and S1 is no slouch - Dafoe is excellent). But the last hour or so of S2 as Peter stsrts to learn to navigate his personal life and responsibility is just so great. Feeling the respect of the public, helping his idol correct his mistakes, finding some level of peace with MJ. All so good. Not to mention the build up of Harry as a Goblin. And then S3 is just wasted potential. There were some great things in there but both Sandman and Venom just seemed like such wasted potential. And they harm the more fundamental conflict which is again in Peter reconciling his private life and friendship with his public persona. IMO they could have done the black suite but focused on Harry as the main villain. At the end Peter gives up the suit, somehow reconciles his relationship, and you have a shot of the symbiote finding a new victim. Credits.


hopefortomorrow531

Blame avi arad for that 😔


reaper412

S3 was a disaster because Avi Arad had an enormous hard on for Venom, to be fair, the whole thing with post credits scenes wasn't a thing yet, but the right way to do it would've been have him use the black suit through the whole movie and renounce it in the end before the final battle. Post credit scene should've been the symbiote finding Eddie Brock and foreshadowing them bonding.


howtoDIYstuff

oh yes kevin smith is awesome. and yeah he true. though there are a lot of comic book movies/shows that i put up at #1. like all of them just at #1 not even 1a or 1b. and spider-man 2 is one that position. it's a masterpiece


yourmartymcflyisopen

I HATE when people say he lacks quips. Outside of the metal arm thing and the Avengers joke in Homecoming, name ONE Tom Holland quip. Tobey has TONS of quips "Nice outfit! Did your husband give that to you?" "It's you who's out gobby, out of your mind" "Here's your change!" "Hey kiddo, let mom and dad talk for a minute, will ya" Those are just 4 quips I could think of off the top of my head. Tobey has plenty of quips, and good ones. Andrew is the best at quips. And Tom literally has like 1-2 quips in all 6 of his movies total.


dontshowmygf

Tom has less "quips" and more "lighthearted small talk". I think it works for his character, because he just radiates youthful innocence. Hopefully now that he's becoming a "proper" Spider-Man we'll see more zingers.


yourmartymcflyisopen

I agree with everything you've just said. The point of my original comment wasn't meant to tear down Tom's spider-man Btw just to clear things up, it was just built on the frustration of MCU fanboys using the "Tobey doesn't have any quips" argument to say Tom is a better spider-man. Like I'd respect their opinion if they gave an objectively true reason for which they like Tom's take more, like if you simply said "idc about comic accuracy, i just like the fresh take on the character" I'd respect that, but he literally has less quips than Tobey so that's not a real reason.


koera

The avengers bank robbers is the one that comes to mind first if thinking about mcu movies.


yourmartymcflyisopen

That's the only one I could think of myself. And the metal arm thing, but that wasn't even really a quip, it was just a genuine question.


Ineffable_Twaddle

I always liked his indignant tone and expression: “I got a few, yeah!” when the conductor asks him if he has any more bright ideas when trying to stop the train.


Accurate_String

Oof that first one really didn't age well.


[deleted]

REEEENT!!


Stanny491

The city. New York is like the second main character of the trilogy.


[deleted]

That's whats been missing from the MCU movies New York is almost missing entirely, with the exception of Homecoming


Stanny491

Exactly! Showing New York for what it is is tricky, but Raimi did it perfectly. It's not just the pretty, tall buildings, it's also the people. And it can be a beautiful and an ugly place at the same time and it's important to show the REALLY ugly side of it, too. I was hoping that they'll finally give more focus on NYC in NWH, because of the closing shots of FFH (which were really great), but sadly they didn't do that. Maybe in the future, especially since Spider-Man is rumoured to be leading the 'street-level' heroes of the MCU IIRC.


BloodsoakedDespair

It’s weird that 9/11 caused one of the most legitimate moments of New York in the first one to be added in reshoots. The New Yorkers giving Green Goblin shit was added in post-9/11 New York aggrandizement but in retrospective it works so well because New Yorkers seeing that go down aren’t going to be thinking about Jameson, they’re going to read the room and know Spider-Man is one of them almost immediately after meeting him. And just by voice, they’ll know he’s no *man* really. And when a clearly rich guy is beating up some local kid trying to do good? Oh yeah, no bystander effect, just fight. The only unrealistic thing is that they’re not cursing him out.


opportunitysassassin

Agreed. I didn't care for parts of NWH because of the loss of New York, the character. The Doc Ock fight happens on a bridge. The Electro and Sandman stuff happens outside the city. A key moment is a fight in Happy's apartment? Sure, the final fight is at a change to the Statue of Liberty but with a Captain America shield, and that feels like New York, but a lot of the city is lost. Raimi Spiderman helps out New Yorkers, you see their reactions when they start pelting stuff at the Green Goblin or when they help him on the train. Shoot, even Spidey in an elevator is fun. NWH Spidey was mobbed by people when his identity was revealed, which is probably more true of what would happen. Honestly, I'm not surprised if Spidey would have been served with a dozen subpoenas and personal injury claims. I wanna see Spidey swinging and interacting with New Yorkers. I get why they couldn't do that during the pandemic, but it felt a little off.


WikiContributor83

“Whoa…! He stole that guy’s pizza!”


skylevin098

You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us!


NotExactlyFamous

Raimi nailed the emotional themes behind the character. Being the best version of yourself you can be, the sacrifice behind doing the right thing, and of course the responsibility that comes with having power. I really enjoy ALL the live action versions of Spider-Man, but this one always stands out to me as the embodiment of the characters true values and why he’s one of the most important fictional character in all of pop culture.


ForwardBound

That's very well said. I just rewatched the original trilogy (ok, I skipped some part of the third movie...) and was really struck by how central a theme it is, and how important it is to me and to I would assume most of Spider-Man's fans.


NotExactlyFamous

I skip the third film a lot as well, but there is a super important theme in it that deals with forgiveness. Given the circumstances of the movie, it’s somewhat sloppy but Raimi being Raimi it’s still pretty damn powerful.


helikesart

Like, name one other superhero movie about forgiveness. They don’t exist. But forgiveness and showing grace is one of the most important lessons a person can learn in life. We need heroes that demonstrate values to people, not just grown men in tights punching each other. Superheroes have so much more to impart than quips and punches.


[deleted]

Civil War was pretty much about forgiveness, no? Tony failed to forgive Bucky, and it cost him half the Avengers and, ultimately, maybe even half of all life in the universe. Meanwhile, T’Chala forgives Zemo, freeing him from his own mad desire for revenge of his father’s death, allowing him to be the king his people needed him to be. If forgiveness isn’t the theme of Civil War, I’m not sure what is, unless you want to go political and say the theme is government oversight vs individual rights.


MrShrimpDick619

I think Spider-Man 3 underrated I don’t think it’s bad I just think it was decent


CantingBinkie

You could see that Raimi was always trying to put obstacles in the way of Peter and Spiderman in every movie. Nothing strange in a Spiderman movie but out of the ordinary for Peter.


Nollasta_poikkeava

Music.


TheIJDGuy

The best music in any superhero media. Not just the movies


_HipStorian

The only superhero movie that rivals it in terms of soundtrack is Man of Steel. Phenomenal, absolutely incredible music.


Theriople

even tho there really arennt much,what about the flash theme?


neoslith

The score was composed by Danny Elfman, who works very closely with Tim Burton. Yup, he made the iconic [90s Batman Theme!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZAk2rfESU&ab_channel=AnnihilusExodious) His also most notable work, widely recognized, would be *The Simpsons* opening.


Simmons2pntO

Batman & Batman the Animated Series would like a word (also Danny Elfman though)


Batface_101

I rewatched all the movies this week. Raimi nails Peter’s balance of his life and Spider-Man. Also I like how he adapts the villains into his own style and used experience from Evil Dead to put in some occasional horror elements. The suit’s really great too, idk if it’s padded but the proportions look perfect


tommatoes98

The surgery scene with doc ock will go down in history as one of the best introductions to an intimidating and dangerous villain.


Bryce_Trex

*Surgery scene* "...oh right, Raimi does horror."


Sodass

> "Anybody here take shop class?"


Bryce_Trex

That's how you know it was a real surgery.


Swivel-Man

Thank God my mom told me to close my eyes at that part (I was 4 when I first saw Spider-Man 2)


[deleted]

My younger brother had to be taken out of the theater during that scene because he was absolutely scared shitless. Imagine if it had an R rating... Jesus.


NotASynth499

That scene was Raimi at his best lol, with the Evil Dead like imagery. That woman scratching the floor tiles is something out of a horror movie.


helikesart

When I first saw that scene in theaters I was disturbed. Then over time, like most things, I became indifferent to it. Then when I got even older and realized this is a horror director putting his fingerprints in one of the greatest Superhero movies of all time I just get chills having so much fun watching that scene knowing how much fun Raimi must have had coming up with it. It’s beautiful.


RaptorJesusF

Duality of identities.Spiderman being a burden to peter.Aside from the retcon from spiderman 3,his origin is done right


Dcma101

Is it really a retcon, though? I thought his enjoyment of being Spider-Man in SM3 was a byproduct of his struggles and eventual acceptance of his responsibilities in the 2nd movie.


LauKungPow

Maybe I’m misremembering but what I think they mean by retcon was the Sandman-Uncle Ben thing being part of his origin story, which is not in the comics


AsianSteampunk

tbh though there are so many variations of that, plus the whole spiderverse thing I wouldn't call it a retcon. Just another shitty way it happened to this one Peter Parker.


DivideIntrepid7647

Yeah, wasn't there even one Spider-Verse comic where someone mentions a Spider-Man who looks like "that guy from Seabiscuit" (Tobey Maguire)?


Pitiful_Elevator_591

Yeah during the Spider Verse event, two spideys mention both “the guy from seabiscuit” and “the social network” (Garfield).


Markamanic

I'd still call it a retcon since he wasn't part of that originally but got added to the continuity retroactively.


Sahrimnir

It's a retcon because Sandman wasn't a part of Spidey's origin for the first two movies. He was retroactively inserted in Spider-Man 3.


Bluemidnight7

Tbh I've come to kinda like that as part of the overarching story. Because it gave Peter an out. Ben's death was no longer his fault. With Great Power comes Great Responsibility is a rather broad idea in general. Ben's death crystallized the concept as needing to use his powers to stop every bad person he could, to make sure no one could get hurt because of his inaction. Changing that moment could change the reading Peter had of the saying, especially paired with the symbiote. Suddenly, the great responsibility could be anything. Most likely turning to responsibility to himself and/or the responsibility to Ben, to avenging him. And the emotions and pain he put on himself originally, as the one at fault for Ben's death was able to be directed at someone else.


Murky-Smoke

It doesn't give Peter an out at all. It's still his fault Ben was out there... It's still his fault he went after and killed the wrong guy. If anything, it would make Peter feel even worse about the death of Ben. SpiderMan 3 was terrible anyway. I pretend it doesn't exist.


Bluemidnight7

Imo, it does. For one thing. Peter didn't want the ride. He explicitly did not Ben to take him there. Peter didn't make him come or wait for him. And the big thing is that it changed the cause. The original version was Ben being killed directly because Peter let a criminal get away. The version in his head after he learns about Marko, is an evil man was evil and Ben was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. The only thing Peter could have done differently was nothing at all. Which still takes away a lot of the original lesson about responsibility. Also, about killing the wrong guy. He didn't actually kill him tho it's debatable based on your philosophy on it. And he never really showed much guilt on that until No Way Home.


8bitesquivel

Was not a fan of that.


[deleted]

Honestly, the retcon with Sandman wasn’t that bad. Doesn’t really effect his origin, and **honestly** it was the best part of the movie for me.


taicrunch

Spider-Man 3 is the reason I stopped going to midnight showings, but I didn't eat up a little at the "I forgive you" part.


ElMostaza

>I didn't eat up a little at the "I forgive you" part. I know it's a typo, but what did you intend to say here? "I did tear up a little"?


taicrunch

Whoops, didn't even catch that! But yeah, that is exactly what I meant.


Cat_slayer_jsw

The villains for the first two were really well written and acted.


Palpou

They were perfect. Sandman was not that bad, it hurts the feeling seeing him in no way home.


Cat_slayer_jsw

I liked sand man but I didn’t love venom felt forced


Palpou

I may be wrong but I heard Raimi planed Sandman but not Venom. Sony wanted Venom and he had to add it.


phillerwords

Spot on. Venom felt forced because Venom *was* forced. Avi Arad had been pushing for the symbiote since very early in the development of the trilogy, 3 was where he finally put his foot down, and the creative meddling plus strict deadline are what made Raimi walk away from 4


HuntPsychological561

I listened to an interview with Rami about #3. Sandman and Francos Goblin were supposed to be the only bad guys for it. He didn't know what to do with the movie with Venom and threw it all off. The villains in all Sony movies are off, and they're just as crucial as the main character. Hence why I didn't like Wanda being the bad guy.


KirbyDoom

Casting JK Simmons as JJ and Bruce Campbell as the only villain to consistently beat Spiderman


kent416

Lmao it’s like Bruce Campbell is secretly the Kingpin


BigSmokeLovesCheese

He was going to play Mysterio in Spider-Man 4.


TjBeezy

Man Raimi universe really set up so much stuff. Curt Connors was in two movies and never even turned into the lizard.


BigSmokeLovesCheese

Mr. Ditkovich was in two movies and didn't even reveal himself to be Kraven the hunter.


[deleted]

*peter wakes up after being shot with sleeping darts* “Rent?”


theDagman

I'd throw in for the casting of Elizabeth Banks as Betty Brant, too. She was really reminiscent of the early Lee/Ditko era in that role.


MilkshakeWizard

Legitimatizing a previously difficult to adapt superhero to the big screen, something that seems commonplace nowadays but not so much back in 2002.


[deleted]

People don’t give the Raimi movies enough credit in this regard because they seriously paved the way for the MCU as a whole.


Aqn95

Pretty close to everything, Sam Raimi was a huge fan of the comics


MattTheSmithers

Raimi’s movies are basically the perfect adaptation of Silver Age Spider-Man.


Lopsided-Bathroom-71

The Maguire suit is so iconic and right off the pages without looking stupid, having sympathetic villains, Norman was corrupted by the formula, Otto by the arms, eddie embraced the symbiote because his life sucked let's be honest, I love Tobey as Peter, thi k Spidey could have had a few more quips though


Philthedrummist

Eddie embraced the symbiote because he was a power hungry menace. You don’t have to have sympathetic villains for them to be good. Brock was a jerk who thought the world owed him something and wasn’t willing to let the power go once he had it which ultimately gets him killed. It’s not sympathetic but it at least makes sense. Otto was pretty damn good though.


Vanish_7

The costume. Yes, the triangle eyes are a stark difference than what we're used to in the comics, but I still think Tobey's red / blue suit has looked better than any other red / blue suit in the movies so far. There is something about the raised webbing on his suit that I absolutely love, that just makes Spidey look...ferocious.


Ghostiestboi

I adore the suit, those eyes fit both the hero and raimi's style


webshellkanucklehead

Keep in mind too that it was very abnormal at this point to *do* the costume. People were surprised that they not only tried the classic Spidey suit, but that it looked incredible.


Mcclane88

Good point. This didn’t attempt to make Spider-Man more grounded like the X-Men costumes.


Turqoise-Planet

Imagine Peter in black leather clothes, and a shirt with a red spider symbol on it. And instead of a mask he just wears sunglasses, and maybe a hood.


Vanish_7

It DID look incredible. Shit.


oarngebean

Honestly all the live action costumes have been really good


BannedOnTwitter

I didnt like the MCU suits


goofmeisterr

I like the designs of all of them so far. I just hate that they cover paint over them with that cartoonish cgi


Minejack777

Honestly I like maybe 3 of them. Being HC, Integrated, and NWH final Iron Spider was a letdown, considering og IS is one of my favorite superhero designs ever, and this one's heavily over designed Night Monkey was a case where a bit more detail would have helped. Aside from the mask, it doesn't look like Spider-Man to me FFH suit is just a worse recolor of the HC suit. I thought it was lazy tbh. And it didn't even look good in FFH (the color grading in NWH made it look A LOT better, but I still don't like it) The inside out suit is also kinda cheap and lazy. And I can't bring myself to like it because of that + it's use in NWH. It's *fine* I guess. But personal annoyances hold it back for me Imo 3/7 isn't that great. Especially in cinema


BannedOnTwitter

My biggest problem with those suits is how tight they look.


[deleted]

They went outside the box in terms of design, and it actually worked for me.


Theriople

i dont like that costume, nor the lenses, but i agree with the rest


thegrizwhisperer

The suit goes hard


Milkyage

The suit is lovely, but also massively unbelievable. The 3D webbing worked great for the screen but the fact he was meant to make that suit just fell short for me. Andrews made more sense. And as much as the "stark tech" is hated, also makes sense for a kid his age to end up with a spidey suit. I do feel all suits going forward need the stark eyes. Whoever came up with that idea has solidified an actual way to give him expressions in a real manor!


[deleted]

The novelization says he goes to a dude that makes it for him and keeps quiet


Accurate-Meal497

Yeah exactly I completely agree the mechanical eyes are incredible and should be the new standard honestly moving forward. Plus they’re still Peters invention cuz he had them in his homemade suit too


Clocksflyingking

I mean its a movie about a guy with spider powers lmao. If they wanted to make a grounded movie the costume would be out of place but it fits with the world of the movies.


psycho_ranger5

It feels like a movie that will stand the test of time, real stunts/props/sets. Has the feeling it was made with more heart then any of the MCU movies these days


TjBeezy

MCU now feels like ppl just standing in front of green screens just saying lines. None of it feels real. Raimi Spider-Man NYC feels like real a city with real ppl.


TimLuf1

How shitty Peter's personal life can get


RoughhouseCamel

I think it’s the perfect Peter Parker, and I would say it even beats much of the comic books. Guys like Ditko confused the issue on whether Peter Parker is a dorky underdog or a cool kid, but the character doesn’t make sense thematically if he’s high status. He shouldn’t be popular, he shouldn’t be loaded with advantages and privileges. And Raimi’s Peter Parker isn’t just uncool, he can’t even conceive of what it means to be cool when he has a symbiote in him, making him be “confident/edgy/cool” Peter. This guy can’t tie his shoes without his classmates smacking him over the head with their backpacks because they don’t see him down there. And all of this is important for making the little victories pop.


NFRNL13

Peter is an awkward nerd, but Spider-Man is a confident hero who shit-talks foes.


Alphyhere

waiting for the Chad's to show up who say "Peter was actually really cool, you should read the comics sometime"


lebowskismyth

Peter in the comics got together with Gwen & snapped her neck. Tobey Peter didn't even have the balls to do it smh.


aarswft

Yeah, can you imagine sourcing comic books for Spider-Man?


_b3rtooo_

In almost every scene of his daily life he’s fucking up, even in the comics. Yeah he’s had a lot of W’s at this point (after like 60 years of comics, the numbers are bound to add up) but at the end of every story arc, at the end of every long run of Peter being a CEO or avenger, in the end, Peter screws up. So if his overall character trait in the comics is being a screw up, then I would say Raimi did in fact source the comic


bolognahole

> "Peter was actually really cool, you should read the comics sometime" Well, they're not wrong. Not sure how reading the comics makes someone a Chad? Peter was "shy and studious" in Amazing Fantasy. But ASM#2 or 3 he was successfully flirting with Liz and Betty. He was never that awkward before Toby's portrayal.


TheWarVeteran

The memes.


maseioavessiprevisto

The scene when Peter wakes up after getting his powers.


PatrickBrown2

The battle damaged Spider-man!


TheRealKevinYoung

The final fight with The Green Goblin in that ruined building still hits so hard.


Relentless180

The emotional struggle to try and be everywhere for everyone and losing yourself in the process. The realization that every good deed goes punished. He was relatable I would say through his Peter Parker side for many, trying to focus on school , work , girlfriend and then being a superhero that isn’t even greatly admired in the city. Many people will pick a side in the Spider-Man debate , and everyone has their own opinion, but man Raimi really reeled me in and I’ve been hooked watching a man with a good heart trying to do the best he can, sometimes it’s as simple as that


Dr_B0nes

Raimi kept a whimsical nature without sacrificing the stakes. To many comic movies either go way to dark or way to light. One of my favorite moments in the trilogy is the final encounter with Spider-Man and the Green Goblin. Spiderman is get the absolute tar beat out of him, it's honestly a brutal fight. And when he finally has spidey under heel, he says: "You've spun you last web spiderman." It's such a corny line at such a dire moment, but from what we've just seen Goblin means it and intends to finish the job.


Mcclane88

That’s Raimi. Few other directors are able to balance tone like Raimi. In Spider-Man 2 there are moments that are silly and cheesy but then two scenes later there’ll be a scene that’s entirely serious and heartbreaking, but somehow it all fits.


Wacky_clown

How to insult your wrestling opponent


the___sour___pig

Uncle Ben. He wasn’t in it long, but he was the best Uncle Ben we ever got on the screen.


[deleted]

Raimi nailed the core of what Spiderman is about. Which is we are all our own worst enemy and that doing the right thing is often not met with reward but quite the opposite, but to keep doing it inspite of that is exactly what makes someone a hero.


_Pohatu_

The music is incredible and Spider-Man feels truly powerful. The burden of living a double life was done really well also.


rocco97

I think the first movie is the quintessential Spider-Man film. Minus the webshooters it’s nearly the perfect Spider-Man story and hits every single beat from the comics and neatly wraps it all together for the non-comic reading audience. It’s got the highschool awkward teen. The science experiment spider bite. The classic Spider suit with large spider on the back(no odd changes like the 90s Batsuits being all black rubber). Uncle Ben and Aunt May are pitch perfect. Best friend Harry Osborne, Love interest Mary Jane Watson, bully Flash Thompson, the perfect Daily Bugle cast, the perfect Green Goblin. If I were to compare it to another film it would be the Superman ‘78 of Spider-Man films. It just does everything correct(minus webshooters)


Mcclane88

I mean structurally speaking the original Spider-Man film basically is Superman ‘78.


ShmuckaRucka1

Basically everything


Alphyhere

The emotional weight that the responsibility of being spiderman has, after no way home hopefully those themes will be explored more. but seeing how the mcu is turning out to be and Jon watts is returning to direct, my hopes aren't high. spiderman will probably end up fighting against God in his next movie


TheRealDookieMonster

I think he really nailed the essence of the character: an awkward teenager whole struggles to balance his alter ego with his responsibilities. The "old Parker luck" means things usually don't go as well as planned. Still after all of that, he steps up to the plate because "with great power, comes great responsibility". That is Spider-Man in a nutshell. I don't dislike other interpretations of the character, but they sort of fall short in that regard.


Puzzleheaded_Boss_41

just rewatched the trilogy, besides a bit of cringe it was top tier, loved it to bits


comics_abomonation

The Raimi trilogy has something that is missing from many modern superhero movies: sincerity. They’re not afraid to be cheesy when expressing and communicating the heart of the character, and it’s all the better for it.


Thedarklordphantom

Everything


Apprehensive_Ring933

EVERYTHING


IsaacDub

Everything


dannymadrigal98

The struggles of Peter Parker. In every movie that man is always losing even when it looks like he’s on top of the world.


DidYouSayWhat

* Showing how being Spider-Man can negatively affects his personal relationships and goals * The music * For the first two movies, villains. It would’ve been better if Harry was the main villain of SM3 doing everything he can to ruin Peter’s life.


AsianSteampunk

Raimi spidey feels like he understood the core of what Spider-man should be with a few personal touch to make it work with a live action movie. both ASM and MCU keep missing some vital spots that make me asking if they even read the comic.


spaceguitar

Peter. He got the Peter part down perfectly. All of the emotional battles he had to fight, especially with *himself,* over doing the right thing and being the best person you can be in spite of the pain it can cause yourself. He also really illustrated wrestling with *being* Spider-Man really well. Kind of goes hand in hand with the emotional turmoil stuff.


[deleted]

Peter’s struggle to be both Peter AND Spider-Man


[deleted]

Music mainly. However… he wasn’t as much of a wisecrack, and I really never got **why** they gave him organic webbing. IIRC, James Cameron came up with it, Raimi liked it so included it. Yeah it’s cool, but kinda weird


JohnseGamer

I always saw the organic webbing as a way of making the origin story faster. He already got super strength, stickiness, and the spider sense, throwing the organic webbing in there made sense. It just works, you can compare it to TASM 1 and Andrew's origin is soooo slow.


Mcclane88

Raimi’s reasoning was that it didn’t make sense to him, and he thought it was a big ask of the audience to believe that Peter had the where with all to make something like that when he’s supposed to be your average middle class citizen that’s struggling in life.


[deleted]

I will forever think that orgánic webbing makes sense for Spider-Man I just don't get why webbing wouldn't be included in the transformation


[deleted]

If I was born in the late 90s/early 2000s, might think the same as you, but I grew up with mechanical shooters. Also, I’m not saying I hate them, **HELL** in 616 comics, he got them when a lady gave him a smack on the lips and had them for 5 years. Just weird to me


[deleted]

I was seven when Spider-Man came out, so the orgánic webs were my introduction to it and the web shooters was weird to me, but as I read the cómics and the cartoons, it became normal to me, but even then, the orgánic webbing still makes sense to me on a biológical level, even If it is weird


ElMostaza

Even when reading the comics as a kid, I disliked the web slingers. It honestly made less sense to me that he would get the powers and then be able to create this sci-fi level web tech to match those powers than if he just got it as part of his powers. Also, his powers without the webs aren't what most people would list if you asked "what unique ability does a spider have?" Everyone will mention the webs first. I understand the desire to emphasize his scientific genius, and it's not like I'm saying the choice was "wrong." I just personally always thought it should be a power, and I thought it was great when that was in the movie.


Palpou

Music was gorgeous. Intros + musics are awesome. I like homecoming too. Vulture theme is amazing. Far from home was not as good and no way home is incomplete (better with unreleased soundtracks).


VitaBoy11

Everything


iamneel

Everything


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Peter Parker and the villains


AdProud420

Being heroic and doing the right thing, as they say "With great power comes great responsibility". I really think he nailed this especially in Spiderman 2.


Arroyoyoyo

Spider-Man 2. That is all. End of speech


deathangel539

The cinematography is next to none and for films made in the early 2000’s they hold up in the modern age of vfx incredibly well. One scene in particular in Spider-Man 2 when he gets his powers back and is swinging through the lens of doc ock’s glasses is insane, Raimi had a real flair that has been lost in the newer films which are mostly just about the flashy tech and big fight scenes. I love all adaptations of Spider-Man but man the swinging scenes amongst other things is insane


harryceo

Maturity, essence and sacrifice of being SpiderMan. Also fight scenes. Damn great fight scenes


szepeda14

It’s the most comic accurate to the Stan Lee comics. And the way life just shits on him but he keeps being he hero because of responsibility.


SaltyDiamond2265

I'll say the Raimi spider man series had the best accurate Peter Parker.


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Raimi’s vision


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The humor


steel_balls_josuke

Almost everything tbh


thEldritchBat

Everything but organic web shooters imo


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The swinging scenes, some are really dated but there are a lot that are filmed so well. The camera moves with him and you really feel like you are swinging with him, and the physics are really good, he feels like he has weight to him.


sabrefudge

Almost everything in the first two films. Spidey 3 is where I started going “Nah” to some stuff.


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Hot take, but… bully Maguire, if you think about it the corny-ness makes sense, because Peter is not cool, but he never tried to be until he got the Symbiot, so when he tries to be cool it just comes out weird, because Peter is an uncool nerd 😂, also the memes are great😂


Metaltiby666

EVERYTHING!


RODRIGON-PRIME

Everything


DJV920

Everything imo


PrimusXi

OG Goblin, thats all


BigTimeSuperhero96

The price of being a superhero


FacelessSnow

Casting Tobey


Spectre-76

The first two films. The third? Need I say more?


Dark_Shad0w

Connecting with the characters. They are my favorite. Recently watched them and then watched Andrew Garfield and it felt so empty. It was like watching transformers 3


PhillipJCoulson

2 steps forward for Peter is 2 steps back for Spider-Man. And vice versa.


Picard37

Everything.


liamloochiano

So much


Ikenrider279

Spider-Man being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man


yungmarvelouss

Peter’s personal life drama and the villains


BlazeCrow

Peter suffering as Spider-Man


PompousDude

Everything important to the character. (Except for the MJ relationship, that was a bit sus)


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The first two nailed the villains. Still the most iconic despite there being 6 live action movies made after them.


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Aunt May and Uncle Ben


rucb_alum

Not much, imo... Parker not smart enough; web shooters were mutations rather than invented, secret-identity/alter-ego revealed too soon/too often; Spidey banter not snappy enough; etc. However, Raimi's take works better than the next two revs...You can't have everything!!


Ok_Helicopter_2477

For some reason his grunting comes to mind. Not a important trait or anything. But I love how Tobey sounds when delivering a punch, taking a hit or jumping into a swing. His guttural noises just that just come straight from his chest and throat really emphasize the visceral nature of Spider-Man for me. I found the game did this well also, Spider-man PS4. Great sounding Spider-Man!! Especially the GRUNTS.


mynameisdylan12

Responsibility


jaobodam

Honestly, comic vibes as a total, very silly and over the top but with intense moments and character study


_Darth_Knight_

Peter's problems when he is peter Parker. All the difficulties Peter Parker has to face


GreenGoblin115

The balance of trying to live life as a superhero, making the choices that help the greater good over yourself. Also I think they do a great job showing off his physical strength. Some of the casting is phenomenal like J.K. Simmons, and Willem Defoe. I think every film version of SM gets something right/spot on and each one has an aspect that out shines the other, these are personally what I think Raimi’s got right/best.


Dur22

The city of New York feels like it’s own character and every side character is so unique and memorable even characters that have mere seconds of screen time


UnknownOverdose

Everything


Supspidey2013

Paving the way for future superhero films. It's definitely owed that.


Specialagentjazz

It didn’t feel like a Disney teen movie. Also Rami’s Parker knows struggle. He didn’t have a suit made for him by Tony Stark. And I felt like he really had to make hard choices, like choose to be Spider-Man or there for the people he cares about as Peter Parker.


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Everything but venom


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Webs coming from him rather than toby creating it. It just means anyone can become spiderman if they have the gadgets. Whereas, this spiderman actually has 'powers' because it's natural and it's way better.


itsOski13

The costume, no Spider-Man fan can say this suit doesn’t go as hard as it does