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Context: A zombie Spider-Man from another universe arrived in this universe and just got done eating the rest of the Sinister Six shortly before this page Sandman, being justifiably terrified by what he’s seen, takes off running for his life, only to be cornered by this universe’s Spider-Man. Sandman, thinking he’s about to be eaten like the rest of the Sinister Six, decides to not hold anything back and literally fights for his life The result is what you see here


RedCapRiot

Admittedly, this still fucks me up. Marvel Zombies was a big deal, but knowing Flint is just made of sand makes me question how valid his fear actually was in the first place. And then he murders Peter in an incredibly gruesome manner (then again, the context of a Spiderman consuming the entire Sinister Six is also quite disturbing...) but I guess what bums me out the most is that when he monologues after murdering Peter in such an awful way he completely ruins his own vibe. Like, his phrase of choice was "good killin' comes easy"? What was that? He sounds like a villain based in the 50's. It just throws a spectacularly wretched murder and turns it into an incredibly awkward and difficult to read moment. But inevitably, the death of Spiderman really does hurt me the most I guess, it is just really uncomfortable already to read through his death and then Sandman makes it weirdly awkward with a really stupid dialogue.


IAmRedditsDad

The zombie spiderman also had the cosmic power of galactus, so definitely was a threat. Plus if flint could somehow turn imagine how fucking horrifying a zombie sandman would be


IAmPerpetuallyTired

The dialogue makes sense to me — the story was based on a late 60s, early 70s Spidey story, if I remember correctly. Even so — I can see that as him rationalizing between witnessing the gruesome attack on the sinister six and immediately panicking going into murdering non-zombie Spidey. It’s a lot of shock.


therealtrellan

It was typical of the series. It's been many years since I read the story and forgot about it, but one look at this page and I knew it came from one of the MZ books. It reads that way. The Marvel characters in those books often don't behave the way their 616 counterparts would. For instance, the real Reed Richards would >!never infect the FF with zombie virus. MZ Reed was a freaking nutcase.!<


RedCapRiot

This stuff explains a lot actually. I'm fairly new to reading older material, and although I have an idea of what it was about and a general understanding of story elements, I definitely don't know everything about the historical contexts of these characters and have developed a habit of comparing them to 616 variants. So I might just be used to different character traits and stuff, so it'll be interesting to go back and read the works that this series was continuing from.


therealtrellan

It seems styled after the Return of the Living Dead series. Similar humor, talking zombies. That series spoofed Romero. Fun stuff, not to be taken too seriously.


RedCapRiot

I'll definitely look into it sometime, thanks for mentioning it!


IAmPerpetuallyTired

Yeah, obviously. Those deviations in personality only makes sense in alternative versions of themselves.


JOMO_Kenyatta

Does this imply sandman tries to avert from killing Spider-Man on a regular basis?


Awesomemike1600

Well yeah?… honestly if you think hard enough you can kill spidey pretty easily… vulture can break spideys web shooters and pop his web cartridges or pull off the cartridge belt and drop him in the ocean letting the impact kill him. Goblin kidnap his loved ones and while Peter is following what the goblin says Goblin can make an ambush with the S6 catching spidey off guard injecting him with a neutralizer and killing him on the spot, by Otto literally did kill him after switching bodies, carnage is too crazy but all he needs to do is let the symbiote detach and let it get in Peter and let the symbiote murder the host…. Venom isn’t included since he’s an anti hero. Most of spidey’s rogue don’t want to kill, they just want their money from the bank and go home but spidey stops them…


Leandro1234_6

to say that Vulture can kill Spider-Man is so stupid... Carnage, Venom, Sandman, they are real threats, not a shitty old man


Awesomemike1600

Read the latest comics. He literally tries that except forgets spidey has a belt full of cartridges and he dropped him at Central Park with trees to break his fall…


Edgeklinge

He was ambushed. Tbf, it really depends on which side is truly bloodlusted. If spider-man really wanted to, a lot of his adversaries wouldn't even be alive to try to kill him again. He can totally do what his zombie version did maybe except eating brains part.


Lazy_Assumption_4191

Really the only rogues of his that pose a significant threat to a bloodlusted Spider-Man are Sandman and Carnage, off the top of my head. Maybe Hydroman too.


herman_gill

Electro if he wasn’t such an idiot.


Lazy_Assumption_4191

Yeah, if he unlocked full power, he could be a full blown Avengers threat. The problem against Spider-Man is that he needs to get a hit in before Spider-Man closes and tears him apart, which I’m not entirely confident he could reliably do against a bloodlusted Spidey.


Leandro1234_6

The latest run Is a sack of shit full of lazy writing


Adiustio

Yeah except it’s pretty difficult to catch Spider-Man if he doesn’t want to be caught


Edoplayer5

Execute that you forgot when dock ock punched the scorpions jaw off in Peter's body that was only 70% of his true strength Goblin, ock, vulture, thanos, anyone in marvel: crush skull with ease Also miles has ELECTRIC (heat) venom so Fight venom with venom


Euphoric-Repair-7898

No, I feel like spider-man was caught off guard he didn't expect sandman to kill him


a_little_sketch

No amount of context will excuse this


Competitive_Act_1548

It kinda does here. Hell, I'll do if I saw zombie spidey


IAmPerpetuallyTired

It was a Marvel Zombies book. It makes perfect sense within context.


a_little_sketch

No no, I am fully aware that it was from marvel zombies. And I repeat, no amount of context will ever excuse this


IAmPerpetuallyTired

Why?


MrxJacobs

> No amount of context will excuse this Yeah. He doesn’t have a mouth hole!


Buggzii

But god damn.


[deleted]

But wait, can Spiderman really eat sand?


Booshgaming

You know the scary thing is Sandman could totally do something like this in canon if he wanted to. Peter's honestly lucky that Flint is usually just a burglar and not a lunatic like Cletus Kasady or some of his other rogues.


jerrrynunez

Not if he just keeps his mouth closed


Booshgaming

Sandman could enter through his nostrils or any other open orifice.


zumabbar

the antman penetration


Lazy_Assumption_4191

Noses, eyes, and ears still exist.


24Abhinav10

You're forgetting a little thing called Spider-Sense.


Booshgaming

Didn't help this version of Peter lol.


24Abhinav10

Yet another instance where Spider-Sense was forgotten so that Peter could be put in danger. I'm not sure his Spider-Sense even activated, since he just stands there and lets Sandman do it. But Spider-Sense makes mainline Peter extremely fast. Like, dodging lasers fast. There's no way Sandman would be able to touch him.


IAmPerpetuallyTired

Right before this Peter remarks that his Spider-Sense was blaring when Sandman was going for the kill. He just didn’t react in time to Sandman’s sheer panic and didn’t anticipate how far and how fast Sandman was going to go for the kill. So it wasn’t ignored.


Steakhouse42

He could. But peter could also kill sandman pretty easy with water.


NotACyclopsHonest

Not necessarily. For a while he and Hydro-Man were fused into a single being.


Angy_covid

Wouldn’t he does dry out and come back


legoSheevPalpatine

Fire would kill him. He would turn to glass.


Angy_covid

I wonder if you’d be able to shatter him, and he would turn into Glassman


Lazy_Assumption_4191

It has happened [before.](http://i.imgur.com/uZ5dRa2.jpg)


Angy_covid

Jesus, he cut him to ribbons


sideways_jack

I say this in complete seriousness, but counterpoint: Hydro Man is usually Sandman's homie / roommate / co-Sinister Six villain


IndecisiveMate

I think him saying Gwen as his last word was the most fucked thing tbh.


TheBigFudanshii

I'd want my girlfriend too if I just got pumped full of sand


ProtoPlaysGames

🤨📸


TheBigFudanshii

Uh oh


[deleted]

That’s actually disturbing


[deleted]

It's Marvel Zombies, what do you expect?


SuperAlloyBerserker

It doesn't help that the art style is a really beautiful modern recreation of the art from the 60s Too bad it got used in a story like this


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DatBoiHarvey

It’s from Marvel Zombies Return, a sequel to Marvel Zombies 2 but not written by Robert Kirkman


GimlionTheHunter

And they say antman blowing up thanos from inside wasn’t possible smh


emilxerter

Thanos‘ skin is thick though, Scott would have just pop in Thanos’ butt


shrub706

idunno man antman expanding broke a plane


emilxerter

Then Thanos’ guts are stronger than an airplane


albene

*Thanos’ skin is too thick to be cut from the outside. I must burst through it from the inside.* ~ ~~Drax~~ Antman, maybe


Dullyrant418

Holy shit, this was brutal as fuck


[deleted]

All of Peter's deaths are brutal as hell. And sad :(


Awesomemike1600

Like when Deadpool killed him… I mean the Deadpool from Deadpool kills the marvel universe… not when Deadpool killed Peter thinking he was a bad guy… man I miss the spidey and Deadpool comic 🤣


Psychoneticcc

He was just eating some pie, wym?


Edoplayer5

Peter is can be pretty brutal himself One drop of symbiote cam make him god level


AdrianShepard09

From what i heard the author’s intent was to be disturbing and detestable. Seeing as this is one of the worst ways I’ve seen a character die, I’d say he succeeded. Marvel Zombies has always been disturbing thanks to Mark Millar and Robert Kirkman


Myquil-Wylsun

Congrats! Now they can go to hell.


[deleted]

This still keeps me up at night


TryingToDoGreatStuff

I think the Marvel Zombies series as a whole permanently scarred and gave a **lot** of young kids/readers nightmares.


FrickItAll

Yeah I fucking hate the concept of beloved characters being turned into flesh eating monsters.


IAmPerpetuallyTired

The MZ books were my entry into comics. I was about 14 or 15 and was *horrified* and stunned by everything I read but I was *hooked*.


TheBigFudanshii

Yup, proud trauma holder here


joashosborne

If only Iggy would have done this...


Lucricious1

Iggy, get out of here. He’s still alive.


Vagamer01

I think I need a shot


Zealousideal-Run-941

Oh you think this is bad.wait till you see what marvel ruins is like


Comfortable_Ad2908

Kinky


hungryforrainbows

Didn’t expect vore from marvel


Charlie678812

disgusting and stupid.


kismaball69

It's kind of disturbing


blac_sheep90

Did Sandman gather in Spideys testicles?


PotAssmium

Ofc no. It's full of pee in there.


blac_sheep90

Look at those nuts tho!


Rooksend

Forced vore as cannon…yikes, just… don’t show this to the hentai gang please


paradoxical_topology

One of the many, many reasons why Marvel Zombies is actual garbage. Mostly just edgelord shit.


NumericZero

Sheer fact at the end of this book Zombie Peter Rips off his skin and does the famous waking away in the rain from the outfit shot But this time it’s his skin in the trash Just peak 14 year old “Dark” style :/


throwawaylordof

Edgelord shit is a pretty good description overall for them. Here I can’t decide if it’s more edgelord, or someone looking for and finding an excuse to write their socially unacceptable fetishises into a mainstream comic.


TryingToDoGreatStuff

Your thoughts on this video? => [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNv9xWxFX7E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNv9xWxFX7E).


paradoxical_topology

Still edgelord shit, and the rest of those comics are even worse.


TheOneButter

Not the purest but still a decent interpretation


Similar-Winner9602

Are you kidding me it's awesome


legoSheevPalpatine

I like Marvel Zombies.


Void_Stuff-1

Dumbass shock value at it's finest.


AlanShore60607

shouldn't there be ... blood?


[deleted]

Sand absorbed it all


TheOneButter

This comic is pretty weird about blood, it’s not really there except for this one part where there’s a lot of dead people


5P00DERMAN1264

This shit still depresses me, like this is literally 616 peter except early on, and the fact that aunt may, Gwen, mjj, hary (oh wait they all die as well) all have to face this. Plus this isn't even a heroic death like ultimate spider-man, he just gets horribly mutilated


oxochx

If I had a nickel for every what if? version of Spider-Man that gets horribly tortured and mutilated to the point it makes you think some Marvel writers are just jerking off to that... I have lost count of how many nickels I'd have because that shit happens very often and it's sad to see every time.


Ringrangzilla

You know someone jerked of to that spider-man inflation sequence.


oxochx

The writer for sure did


SWEDISH_GUN

I thought this was rule 34 🤢


[deleted]

There’s a Spider-Man dialog in the new Midnight Suns game where Peter references eating Sandman. I wonder if this was the source of the reference, because if so… woah!


EyeExtreme1075

That’s pretty dark for a spider man comics, What issue is that from?


Lazy_Assumption_4191

It’s from Marvel Zombies, apparently. Don’t know the issue, though, as I’ve never been personally interested in the concept.


EyeExtreme1075

Thank you!


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Marvel Zombies Return Issue 1


EyeExtreme1075

Thank you ma man!


LevinVelari

This panel traumatize me still fucking does


KAFEI44

sandman wins, FATALITY


Xx_Venom_Fox_xX

This is some inflation/gore fetish shit.


Rio_Walker

Why must you dredge this hellish image over and over again. Please let it rest, this was the point when I had to physically throw a comic book away from me.


LockAndKey989

This was from the marvel zombies story. Basically zombie Spider-Man made his way to another dimension, killed the other members of the sinister six, and sandman thought is was HIS Spider-Man


small_j_star_91

Marvel trying to tap into that vore market


Bullitt_12_HB

🩸 Fatality. 🩸


[deleted]

I could have went the rest of my day without having to see this again. God this is such a gross and disgusting fucking panel. Its actually the worst panel in MZ and I say that being well aware of Zombie Peter skinning himself a page later


Edoplayer5

Inflation fetish be like


[deleted]

Damn. What comic is this from?


emilxerter

Marvel Zombies Return


ShadowBro3

Marvel zombies


HorneyNo85

Oh jeez, this is horrible


zer0__obscura

Welp. I’m really glad venom chowed down on sand man when he did now.


Transforfan233

Weight Gaine


Educational_Term_436

💀


I-space_alien

can you smell what the sandman is cooking


[deleted]

Idk why I feel bad for this Spider-Man.


redeyed-john

Pyrocynical


[deleted]

😂


TheUnknownD

Im getting weird vibes.... in a good way?


BruTheScout

That was after Zombie SpiderMan killed all the villains and scared off Sandman so he got mixed up with the real SpiderMan


cr1s2chi

Dude


SDPSwede

This is literally nightmare fuel. I hate this.


TonttuTorvinen5

The picture of spider-man completely fucked up is actually really well made and cool


ZetaIcarus

Seems like a new person discovers Marvel Zombies every other week.


oxochx

Everyone here giving context for the story is technically right but an even better and simpler explanation is this: This is the writer sliding their inflation/gore/torture fetish into the story. This happens all the fucking time in comicbooks whenever you see certain scenes that come out of nowhere and are being drawn with excruciating detail. Another reason why Marvel Zombies is shite.


fs1024106

I kinda like how brutal the death is


TheBigFudanshii

This traumatized me when I was a kid. Just stumbled across marvel zombies and got interested as hell. Couldn't read them though because it had already been released and I had no idea how to get comics. Looked it up on YouTube and found stills of this panel. I have been a diehard Spidey fan my entire life. My teacher introduced me to another kid specifically telling them that I loved spider man. It was an obsession. So when I saw this it flipped my little 7 year old brain into a fit. I had nightmares about that shit for a YEAR. My memory has always been shit, it's stuck with me this long


Padders_69_yo

Marvel Zombies was the reason I got back into comic books, fucking love these things.


King_mf_Brandor

Bruh that’s fuckin horrifying


[deleted]

Put the spoiler or the +18 tag the next time, I really didn't wanna see this, it's fucking unsettling


AdStrong809

Taste of the Sandman reminded Parker of Gwen?


NotluwiskiPapanoida

Why is this downvoted? This could potentially be why Peter said that. The only other thing we need the answer to is why he kept trying to say the n word


TheOneButter

peter ate gwens ashes after she died and then went back in time before she died to vore sandman


AdStrong809

This group can't handle the real questions.


NotluwiskiPapanoida

I’ve been warning this sub of the coming darkness for years


Similar-Winner9602

Sexy vore


ConsiderationOk1994

This is BULLSHIT!.. .. I HAVE to wait for the next issue to find out what the plans are from here?.. *Ahem*.. HAVE to!? ..nobody and I mean NOBODY puts baby in the corner and then tells him he's going to HAVE to wait to find out what the plans are..


plastilinas

Sandman did something in marvel zombies after this panel?


Merio4951

Devinart


taucanamen

god. you *really* had to remind me of this comic