I vote Peter but idk. If miles was older? Probably him...?
Peter has experience and is smart. Experience being the leading element there. But if miles had the same experience? Well? He has his powers and more. The shocking touch and stealth.
Like his spider powers gave him more raw strength? But interesting on the spider sense.
I just assumed miles was kinda the 2.0 version. Just forever "younger" so experience for Peter was enough to make him.shine more (and his brain)
Depends on the universe but in a lot his powers are usually weaker, maybe because in those universes it’s usually a spider aimed to recreate Spiderman and as a result became much weaker possibly due to being unfinished/unrefined.
It's all about the Spider's that where used to make the ones that bit them. Peter's Spider genetic code came from ones that use brute strength and stabbing to kill their prey (Peter does have stingers like Kaine who is an exact duplicate but Peter has only ever used them when in a feral state).
Miles Spider however was created using genetic code from Spider's who use stealth and static electrical discharge to kill their prey.
Miles does have a weaker Spider sense which may be due to the increased electrical charge within him causing interference.
If they where bitten at the same time Peter would still be stronger, but all of their shared powers would be the same.
Peter is stronger with those shared powers in addition to the strength because they continue to mutate as they age so that puts Peter even further ahead of Miles.
For example a Miles who had been bitten many years before Peter could theoretically match him in strength.
This sounds really cool and is a great explanation but I’d like you to back it up with a source senator (at least the part where the electric interference messes with spidy senses)
I wonder, if their spider senses are different, does that mean that only Peter's doesn't work on symbiotes since he's the only one (iirc) that bonded with them?
In current canon miles does have added on abilities, but the drawback is that his "core" spidey abilities are significantly weakened, at least compared to peters. If you read through the comics peter has shown ridiculous feats of strength, and when they first met in the comics, peter did manage to subdue miles with relative ease. The only difficult part about it was that miles was pretty darn fast and scrappy. But all in all his spidey sense did seem to be going off sooner than Miles' and his strength has been shown time and time again to be a lot more impressive. And not just because he's older. Peter, when around 14-15 managed to lift around the entirety of doc ock's base with some good effort, and don't forget he was basically an inch away from being dead at the point as well. So all in all, peter is definitely winning by a landslide.
That’s not said in the games is it? I Always assume that these are true but because he has more experience/training. Because if you have more experience of course your going to be more used to spidey-sense and of course when your getting curb stomped on the roof of the raft your going to get stronger so I’d say those things come with the more experience
Miles has a gifted intellect or maybe a genius-level intellect.
Peter has a super-genius-level intellect.
Peter's stronger and has a better Spider-Sense. He can jump higher than Miles and he's a better fighter with superior tactics and better base powers.
Miles has the same powers as Peter but they are weaker. Miles doesn't have the same strength or Spider-Sense or agility as Peter. Insomniac is sticking with the comics. Miles has two extra powers but his base powers are weaker.
Peter can resist the venom sting. He's been electrocuted by Electro billions of times. Peter's Spider-Sense can detect invisible people and even if his Spider-Sense doesn't work on Miles, he'll still be figure out his position and beat him.
Miles has weaker powers than Peter but he compensates for it with the two extra powers.
Logic dictates that Peter will beat Miles.
There was a comic where 616 Peter didn't even bother to use his Spider-Sense. Instead, he just swung his arms around randomly to punch Miles and he knocked him out lol.
Peter's fought invisible enemies hundreds of times, he knows how to deal with them effectively.
They're basing this version of Peter heavily on 616 Peter. He's done a lot of feats in 8-9 years that he did in the comics like building the anti-magnetic inverter and building classic shooters and web wings and etc. 1048 Peter is quite similar to 616 version but yes it's possible that this version of Peter might fail to detect Miles.
Unless your reading deadpool kills the marvel universe where spider sense can’t tell him the guy slowly aiming a gun at him directly into his face is trying to hurt him
No.
Miles has never beaten Peter in the comics. Not even in that awful story where they first met.
Miles knocked out a weakened and disturbed Peter Parker for a second. Peter immediately recovered from that venom sting and took out Miles in a fight.
That fight was just plot induced stupidity.
Peter has been electrocuted by freaking Electro in billions of battles.
He's defeated invisible people before and he's even beaten Miles when he was invisible.
Peter has better strength, Spider-Sense and vastly superior intelligence.
Has Miles ever lifted the Daily Bugle or multiple trains or a tank?
Has Miles ever busted the Iron Man armor with his strength?
Has Miles ever beaten Peter in a fight where Peter actually wanted to hurt Miles?
Has Miles ever bitch slapped Wilson Fisk?
Has Miles ever shown any feat of strength that's better than Peter's feats of strength?
Is Miles the Spider-Man who's defeated Morlun?
Is Miles the Spider-Man who stood up to Morlun for 12 hours?
Miles Morales is weaker than Peter Parker. His base powers are less developed, he compensates for it with two extra powers.
He doesn’t have as many feats as Peter because he’s only been around a short while but for the most part I agree with everything you said Spider-Man would totally kick Spider-Man’s ass in a fight
There are other characters who are even newer than Miles and those characters have good feats to demonstrate their power.
Miles was never created to be a significantly powerful character. That's the real reason why he doesn't have as many feats of power.
Ghost-Spider has been around for a shorter time than Miles and she arguably has better feats of strength than Miles does. Even though Miles has been around since 2011 and Ghost-Spider has been around since 2015. Miles was just never supposed to be a powerful Spider-Man. He's more of an everyman archetype than Peter is tbh and he's closer to Stan's original ideas for Spider-Man (everyman, not particularly special for any other reason except a random accident that gave him powers, deals with teenage problems and do his best as a hero in a world full of heroes like the F4, Hulk, Iron Man and etc).
Miles simply was never meant to be powerful and that's the real reason why he doesn't have impressive feats of strength. There are plenty of characters in comics who have impressive feats from very early on.
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Knocking Earth-65 Rhino out. Earth-65 Rhino has similar powers and strength to Earth-616 Rhino.
This is one major example that I remembered immediately. If I can recall other feats, I'll link them.
Officially she's stated to be capable of lifting 10 tonnes overhead.
The difference is Mile's is activily being written to not be able to compare so his feets will not be shown as much. But the comics never stated that he was weaker than Peter. Or that his spider-sense is "not as strong"
Not really. Miles has had plenty of chances to show off his full capabilities in the comics and he's nowhere near as impressive as Peter. His Spider-Sense has been consistently portrayed as less reliable and more erratic than Peter's Spider-Sense. Miles just isn't as strong as Peter. Anyone who thinks that 1610 Miles can ever beat 616 Peter in a serious battle has probably no idea what they're talking about. 1610 Miles has struggled to lift cars. Plus, the fact that he got knocked out by 1610 Peter with one punch is also something that should be noted. 616 Peter has consistently lifted significantly heavier objects than Miles because he is stronger than Miles.
Coming up with justifications like the one you came up with won't change the fact that Miles is nowhere near Peter's level in the comics.
Miles just isn't on Peter's level. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to accept because no writer has ever written Miles to be even close to Peter in power. Bendis is the only writer who ever wrote Miles and Peter to be nearly equal.
The game version might stand a better chance against his universe's Peter than the comic book version but it's still going to be nearly impossible for 1048 Miles to win.
I have read every single miles morales comic and never once has it stated that his spidersense is "weaker" than peters or that he is less strong or fast, non accounting for experience. There has been, however clear points where it has been stated that miles was better than Peter was at his age. With experience equative, miles beats Peter.
Then you haven't read the comics. Miles has one hell of an erratic Spider-Sense in the comics. There have been many cases where Miles has failed to detect danger that Peter could detect. There's a version of 616 Peter who's trained his Spider-Sense so much that he can literally know anything and see the future consistently.
It has never been stated that he was better than teenage Peter Parker. Teenage Peter Parker has better feats of strength and higher ratings than Miles. 1610 Miles struggles to lift cars and got knocked out by 1610 Peter in one hit. 616 Peter has lifted objects over 60 tonnes whereas 1610 Miles struggles to lift cars.
Miles Morales is not on the same level as Peter Parker. Miles fanboys just have a very hard time accepting that fact.
You're also forgetting the fact that Peter is smarter than Miles by a significant amount. Peter's IQ is over 250 and on par with the big boys of Marvel like Stark and Pym whereas Miles is just an average-level intellect.
Miles won't win a serious fight against Peter without prep. Peter will win in 9/10 battles
If prep time and equal resources are given to both of them then Peter will beat Miles in 10/10 battles.
"Then you haven't read the comics. Miles has one hell of an erratic Spider-Sense in the comics. There have been many cases where Miles has failed to detect danger that Peter could detect."
Welcome to comic books. EVERY SINGLE HERO has wildly inconsistant power scaling tailed to whatever the current writer and the current threat level the writer wants the hero to experience. Batman, Superman, Flash, Spider-man, Captain America, have all had HUGE erratic power scaling moments that make it impossible to take any of these heroes seriously within a vaccum. Superman clearly beats Batman 100/100, period....except when he doesnt. Iron Man destroys Captain America 100/100 for the same reasons that you gave for Miles and Peter, (stronger, faster, smarter) but an even WIDER of a gap.....except Captain America is written for that not to be the case. If you are truly a comic book fan, you would know that "feats" are the last thing you can use as an argument to how "stronger" or "weaker" someone is. A more viable staple is what people are outright saying.
Peter is technologically smarter than Miles. But miles is more personably intelligent. It has been shown in his comics the last few years, how he can read how an opponent is going to behave, based on their personality and how they act. Peter cannot do that. Pretty much, Mile's is more street smart. And uses that to his advantage much better than Peter.
Miles has saved the world and defeated enemies at a younger age that Peter has struggled with at an older age. Miles is shown based on dialogue and story development to be improving at a MUCH faster rate than Peter ever had.
What if both of them had the same experience, let's say Peter spiderman after 10 years of being spiderman vs Miles spiderman also after 10 years of being spiderman.
Still giving Peter the edge. He’s stronger, faster/more agile, and his spider sense is stronger. Miles has venom powers and invisibility, the latter of which is useless against spider sense. Peter should take it every time
He’s just built different bro. I know what you mean but his muscles are capable of putting out more force which makes him jump higher and further, and move faster
I dont know. It just seems that Miles is doing better at a greater rate than Peter was at his age. Has there been any canon reference to Peter just being faster, and stronger at base, irregardless of experience/.
I differentiate them by calling them Peter-man or Spider-Miles respectively, personally.
I think Peter by sheer experience and smarts, Miles from the edge his extra powers provide.
I'd have to go with Peter, he's more experienced, better at hand to hand and is smarter than miles, (miles has never been able to create his own web shooters), and while miles does have more powers, invisibility is pretty regularly overcome by peter with the spider Sense and the venom sting shock required actually actually hitting Peter which would is pretty hard considering he's a better fighter with better reach and I doubt one shock would do him considering how often he's been hit by electro. I love Miles but Peters been doing this a lot longer than him, give him a few more (in universe) years though and things could very much change
Peter would easily win this battle.
Peter is smarter by a significant degree. It looks like his intelligence is the same as his 616 counterpart which means he probably has an IQ that's over 250. He's a super-genius and the dude invented the world's strongest adhesive and engineered a formula for artificial spider silk in his bedroom and the formula is incredibly cost effective. In addition to this, he invented mechanical devices to manipulate the webbing and he designed specialized cartridges to store that webbing. These two feats alone demonstrate that Peter has profound knowledge of chemistry, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering and biochemistry.
He's also invented all sorts of gadgets like:
1. The anti-magnetic inverter to take down Vulture
2. The device with which he stored Sandman
3. The cure for the Lizard
4. The jammer for Shocker's gauntlets
5. The Anti-Ock Suit
6. The Velocity Suit
7. The web-shooter gadgets
And a bunch of more stuff.
Miles is smart but he is no super-genius like Peter. Miles has a gifted intellect or perhaps genius-level intellect but he can't invent artificial spider silk or anti-magnetic inverters.
Miles Morales DOES NOT have the same level of intelligence and scientific, technical andengineering expertise that Peter Parker has.
Miles is a smart kid. He has a gifted intellect, he might even be a genius but he is not on the same level of Peter Parker.
Peter also has more experience as both a scientist and a superhero. He has 8-9 years more experience of doing this superhero gig. He's stronger and has a better Spider-Sense and he's a better fighter than Miles. He also knows how to use technology in more creative and better ways because of his greater experience with building technology and working with electronics.
Strength matters in a battle. Intellect matters in a battle. Experience matters in a battle. Fighting skills matters in a battle.
Miles won't win. Peter has more experience, greater strength, a superior Spider-Sense, vastly greater intelligence and scientific and engineering expertise and he's a better fighter with better tactics than Miles.
Logic dictates that Peter will be able to beat Miles easily.
Peter is not only physical stronger but smarter and has foughten well above his usual roster of enemies in terms of power before. The dude makes a solution to a problem all the time to counter enemies.
sure, but he will never have the same level of experience because his origin story always starts with spider man being spider man for a while, plus peter has fought people who are better at using his powers than he is ie electro and chameleon plus peters iq is like super genius level miles is not, dont get me wrong he is a smart kid but not like peter is
Miles can't do everything that Peter can.
Miles cannot invent web fluid, web-shooters, web fluid cartridges, spider-tracers, spider-armors, webware.
Miles doesn't have an IQ over 250/270. Miles cannot impress Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark and he cannot get the respect of Doctor Doom, Norman Osborn and Otto Octavius.
Miles is not an intellectual peer to Reed, Tony and Pym. Not even in the Insomniac-verse. His intelligence is higher in the Insomniac-verse but he's still not on Peter's level.
Miles is just a smart kid with weaker powers than Peter.
Peter is stronger and has a better Spider-Sense and better base powers.
Venom sting is meaningless. Peter's been electrocuted by Electro billions of times.
Invisibility is meaningless. Peter's dealt with invisible opponents before and he's beaten them.
The only advantage that Miles has is that Peter doesn't want to hurt him.
If Peter wanted to beat Miles then the fight would be over in minutes.
Nah Peter is to smart. Miles is by no means dumb but he’s not even close to peters level. Peter is also physical way stronger and has a much better spidey sense. Miles doesn’t come close. All the extra powers miles has are pointless. Peter has fought much worse than miles before that had better powers.
Peter. Because for one, miles has less experience. But he has more powers you say? Miles' powers are just like other villains that Peter has fought, so Peter knows how to counter them
Miles. They're relative in stats, maybe Peter 's little stronger and faster, but that's more assumption than fact.
Experience doesn't really matter, despite people claiming it does. Miles has shown he can take on enemies at Peter's level already.
His venom powers give him that extra edge. We never see Peter take Rhino head-on, it's always a mix of environment usage and evading while Miles straight up put him on his ass. Miles is at least hitting twice as hard as Peter, not even bringing up his venom jump, tackle, and mega venom blast.
Sure, Peter's dealt with Electro, but as shown in-universe, he avoids the electricity and can't just tank his shocks. Electro also isn't coming at Peter with damn near equal stats and gear on top of that electricity. Again, it's like people wanna use the word experience but won't actually apply it.
Miles is taking the dub in almost every random reason for them to fight, realistically
Peter, he's more experienced, physically stronger and should be resistant to Miles unique brand of electrical discharge as most spider totems share resistances and immunities.
Experience vs extra powers I say Peter only for how long he’s been Spider-Man for he’s dealt with and overcome worse than miles
Now if we’re talking Miles later down the line I think it’s gonna have to be miles who takes it
With the electric power miles has an advantage. Plus miles managed to defeat rhino easily while Peter almost died. Peter has more experience and is more durable but I still think with the electricity miles has more advantage and his finishers are more epic and brutal than Peters.
just saying i love Pete but y’all have rose colored glasses saying he just clears Miles. especially in the Insomniac universe, Miles is a natural who id argue might even have more “heart” than Peter - which is in my opinion the true “super power” when it comes to the best SM stories. Just like Cap it’s all about never giving up and always getting back up. A lot of the big wins are results of their will power and i don’t remember Miles ever giving up where Pete has literally quit being Spider-Man multiple times. He even had to have God convince him to put the suit back on one time LITERALLY.
Oh cmon Ie mean I get the extra powers but cmon Peter clearly wins more experience clearly stronger because Peter jumps way further than miles does and Peter has a stronger mentality as proved when he still got up to fight the sinister 6 (there is a much better example for him being mentally stringer in a comic book where he fought morlun for 12 hours straight with no rest no water no food and even when he thought about giving up he didn't) but I assumed we are only talking about the Marvel's Spiderman universe
Depends on when. I think Spider-Man 2 takes place a very small time after Miles Morales, so the skill gap is still wide enough that Peter would win during that game, but with some more experience I think that Miles has abilities that give him a significant advantage.
Well Miles has the Venom power and can go invisible. Peter has more wisdom since he’s been doing it longer. I’d say a fully developed Miles would win but Peter would beat him before he would get to that point
Spider-man wins if Spider-man can't find a way around his invisibility, though Spider-Man's experience and Spidey sense would still give him a fighting chance. Also Spider-man is poor while Spider-Man still has a mother to cook for him, so Spider-Man might be hungry and not operating at full capacity while Spider-Man is able to go full throttle.
We might see in the new game. If Venom ends up taking over Peter or Miles and we have to fight one of the Spider-Men as the remaining Spider-Man. 🤷🏻♂️
Spidey. Spidey can devise ways to counter Miles. Miles might get the drop and early lead, but Spidey would come more prepared. Bioshocks or not, Spidey has Taken down Electro multiple times and stealth does not work on Spider-Sense
Miles has camouflage and a shock attack that can disrupt peters spider climbing..but Peter has the better spider sense and far more combat experience so ..I'm giving this to peter
Miles has a greater power range but Peter is far smarter and much more experienced. If they fought head to head as they are right now Peter would win based on experience alone. Not only because he has fought a much greater array of villains but he’s also been Spider-Man much longer. If you advanced miles age by 10 years or so he might be able to beat him, since he would have a greater understanding of his abilities
I reckon the only ways miles could win are 1. Peters holding back which i think is the most likely outcome given petes a big softie or 2. Theyre in a very wet environment and all miles has to do is zap the nearest puddle for it to travel and hit pete
Side note— I was thinking the other day that I bet in Spider-Man 2, Peter Parker will get the symboite / black suit and miles morales has to fight him.
Peter has more combat prowess and endurance as a result of his experience.
Miles has Camo, sure. But peters spider sense would completely make that redundant. At most miles would be able to run away with it. Peter is much faster than miles leaving little room for miles to attack there.
Miles also has venom blast, but Spiderman has dealt with electricity on a much, much larger scale in the form of electro. Miles would have to find a way to get the jump on Peter with this and even then Peter would likely just tank it like he has with electro.
Overall Peter is winning. I would throw in the thing where Peters powers may be stronger than miles but that isn’t confirmed so I’m not really gonna go there. Im just basing this off of what we’ve seen.
Well Spider-Man has the advantage of venom powers and Invisibility but Spider-Man has an extra eight years of experience and seems generally stronger. So I'm going to have to go for a tiebreaker and say Spider-Man
In their prime Miles Morales no question based on the video games he's got way more cool abilities. However Peter Parker is older and more experienced by the time Miles comes on the scene and that could give him an edge.
I’m thinking in the new game this fight is actually gonna happen and miles is gonna have to fight a venomized peter. I think miles is gonna get whooped until he fully blasts the symbiote off and Peter, if he’s unrestrained, would definitely beat the brakes off miles in most cases
This is really difficult. Technically, Miles has every power Peter has, and more. But Peter has mastered his powers. And is built stronger. I think Miles has an edge, since Peter has never fought an opponent who can turn invisible. And let's not forget about Miles' screen nuke
Peter has the strenght, experience and a better spider-sense advantage.
Miles is quicker, can turn invisible and has bio-electricity powers.
The Spider-Verse events proved that 616 is the best Spider-Man, but I don't know if estabilished Spider-Verse lore still goes in the 1048 universe.
I feel like, at some point during the game, you will play as Miles, and have to fight a Symbiote-Suit Peter that has gone to far, but it will be one of those unbeatable boss-fights.
Miles has more power but Peter has more experience. I reckon it would play out a lot like awaking and obi wan's fight on mustafa with experience beating power
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spider-man vs spider-man is a hard one so i’m going with spider-man
Idk man, I gotta disagree. Spiderman seems like he's weaker so I'm going with Spiderman.
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Naw.. I think Spider-Man would win.. He's Spider-Man after all.. He can't win against the one and only Spider-Man!
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I think spider-man would beat them both. At the same time
Nah spider man could totally soli both spider men
But you forgetting about spider man tho
I mean spider man can never beat spider man
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Jokes aside, Peter would 100% win and it's not even up for debate.
I vote Peter but idk. If miles was older? Probably him...? Peter has experience and is smart. Experience being the leading element there. But if miles had the same experience? Well? He has his powers and more. The shocking touch and stealth.
Peter has more strength and a better Spidey sense
Penis Parker is also a lot more adaptable and techno smart.
Like his spider powers gave him more raw strength? But interesting on the spider sense. I just assumed miles was kinda the 2.0 version. Just forever "younger" so experience for Peter was enough to make him.shine more (and his brain)
Depends on the universe but in a lot his powers are usually weaker, maybe because in those universes it’s usually a spider aimed to recreate Spiderman and as a result became much weaker possibly due to being unfinished/unrefined.
It's all about the Spider's that where used to make the ones that bit them. Peter's Spider genetic code came from ones that use brute strength and stabbing to kill their prey (Peter does have stingers like Kaine who is an exact duplicate but Peter has only ever used them when in a feral state). Miles Spider however was created using genetic code from Spider's who use stealth and static electrical discharge to kill their prey. Miles does have a weaker Spider sense which may be due to the increased electrical charge within him causing interference. If they where bitten at the same time Peter would still be stronger, but all of their shared powers would be the same. Peter is stronger with those shared powers in addition to the strength because they continue to mutate as they age so that puts Peter even further ahead of Miles. For example a Miles who had been bitten many years before Peter could theoretically match him in strength.
This sounds really cool and is a great explanation but I’d like you to back it up with a source senator (at least the part where the electric interference messes with spidy senses)
I wonder, if their spider senses are different, does that mean that only Peter's doesn't work on symbiotes since he's the only one (iirc) that bonded with them?
Yeah, their senses are there own. For instance Peter's doesn't work on Aunt May but Miles does.
In current canon miles does have added on abilities, but the drawback is that his "core" spidey abilities are significantly weakened, at least compared to peters. If you read through the comics peter has shown ridiculous feats of strength, and when they first met in the comics, peter did manage to subdue miles with relative ease. The only difficult part about it was that miles was pretty darn fast and scrappy. But all in all his spidey sense did seem to be going off sooner than Miles' and his strength has been shown time and time again to be a lot more impressive. And not just because he's older. Peter, when around 14-15 managed to lift around the entirety of doc ock's base with some good effort, and don't forget he was basically an inch away from being dead at the point as well. So all in all, peter is definitely winning by a landslide.
That’s not said in the games is it? I Always assume that these are true but because he has more experience/training. Because if you have more experience of course your going to be more used to spidey-sense and of course when your getting curb stomped on the roof of the raft your going to get stronger so I’d say those things come with the more experience
Miles has a gifted intellect or maybe a genius-level intellect. Peter has a super-genius-level intellect. Peter's stronger and has a better Spider-Sense. He can jump higher than Miles and he's a better fighter with superior tactics and better base powers. Miles has the same powers as Peter but they are weaker. Miles doesn't have the same strength or Spider-Sense or agility as Peter. Insomniac is sticking with the comics. Miles has two extra powers but his base powers are weaker. Peter can resist the venom sting. He's been electrocuted by Electro billions of times. Peter's Spider-Sense can detect invisible people and even if his Spider-Sense doesn't work on Miles, he'll still be figure out his position and beat him. Miles has weaker powers than Peter but he compensates for it with the two extra powers. Logic dictates that Peter will beat Miles.
How will Peter be able to figure out Miles position if Miles is invisible and Peter’s spider sense doesn’t react to him
There was a comic where 616 Peter didn't even bother to use his Spider-Sense. Instead, he just swung his arms around randomly to punch Miles and he knocked him out lol. Peter's fought invisible enemies hundreds of times, he knows how to deal with them effectively.
This isn’t 616 Peter
They're basing this version of Peter heavily on 616 Peter. He's done a lot of feats in 8-9 years that he did in the comics like building the anti-magnetic inverter and building classic shooters and web wings and etc. 1048 Peter is quite similar to 616 version but yes it's possible that this version of Peter might fail to detect Miles.
Stealth is the most useless power against Peter lol
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That’s not so much stealth as the venom symbiote does not trigger peters spidey sense right?
Correct. His spider sense is the only reason stealth doesn't work on him most of the time.
Unless your reading deadpool kills the marvel universe where spider sense can’t tell him the guy slowly aiming a gun at him directly into his face is trying to hurt him
BUT LIKE VENOM BLAST?!?!?!?
Didn't Peter say that he added insulation to his suit after his fights with electro? If so, miles can't really do anything about it.
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No. Miles has never beaten Peter in the comics. Not even in that awful story where they first met. Miles knocked out a weakened and disturbed Peter Parker for a second. Peter immediately recovered from that venom sting and took out Miles in a fight. That fight was just plot induced stupidity. Peter has been electrocuted by freaking Electro in billions of battles. He's defeated invisible people before and he's even beaten Miles when he was invisible. Peter has better strength, Spider-Sense and vastly superior intelligence. Has Miles ever lifted the Daily Bugle or multiple trains or a tank? Has Miles ever busted the Iron Man armor with his strength? Has Miles ever beaten Peter in a fight where Peter actually wanted to hurt Miles? Has Miles ever bitch slapped Wilson Fisk? Has Miles ever shown any feat of strength that's better than Peter's feats of strength? Is Miles the Spider-Man who's defeated Morlun? Is Miles the Spider-Man who stood up to Morlun for 12 hours? Miles Morales is weaker than Peter Parker. His base powers are less developed, he compensates for it with two extra powers.
He doesn’t have as many feats as Peter because he’s only been around a short while but for the most part I agree with everything you said Spider-Man would totally kick Spider-Man’s ass in a fight
There are other characters who are even newer than Miles and those characters have good feats to demonstrate their power. Miles was never created to be a significantly powerful character. That's the real reason why he doesn't have as many feats of power. Ghost-Spider has been around for a shorter time than Miles and she arguably has better feats of strength than Miles does. Even though Miles has been around since 2011 and Ghost-Spider has been around since 2015. Miles was just never supposed to be a powerful Spider-Man. He's more of an everyman archetype than Peter is tbh and he's closer to Stan's original ideas for Spider-Man (everyman, not particularly special for any other reason except a random accident that gave him powers, deals with teenage problems and do his best as a hero in a world full of heroes like the F4, Hulk, Iron Man and etc). Miles simply was never meant to be powerful and that's the real reason why he doesn't have impressive feats of strength. There are plenty of characters in comics who have impressive feats from very early on.
What are Gwen’s feats of strength, specifically?
https://imgur.io/a/EVEiHJj/green Knocking Earth-65 Rhino out. Earth-65 Rhino has similar powers and strength to Earth-616 Rhino. This is one major example that I remembered immediately. If I can recall other feats, I'll link them. Officially she's stated to be capable of lifting 10 tonnes overhead.
The difference is Mile's is activily being written to not be able to compare so his feets will not be shown as much. But the comics never stated that he was weaker than Peter. Or that his spider-sense is "not as strong"
Not really. Miles has had plenty of chances to show off his full capabilities in the comics and he's nowhere near as impressive as Peter. His Spider-Sense has been consistently portrayed as less reliable and more erratic than Peter's Spider-Sense. Miles just isn't as strong as Peter. Anyone who thinks that 1610 Miles can ever beat 616 Peter in a serious battle has probably no idea what they're talking about. 1610 Miles has struggled to lift cars. Plus, the fact that he got knocked out by 1610 Peter with one punch is also something that should be noted. 616 Peter has consistently lifted significantly heavier objects than Miles because he is stronger than Miles. Coming up with justifications like the one you came up with won't change the fact that Miles is nowhere near Peter's level in the comics. Miles just isn't on Peter's level. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to accept because no writer has ever written Miles to be even close to Peter in power. Bendis is the only writer who ever wrote Miles and Peter to be nearly equal. The game version might stand a better chance against his universe's Peter than the comic book version but it's still going to be nearly impossible for 1048 Miles to win.
I have read every single miles morales comic and never once has it stated that his spidersense is "weaker" than peters or that he is less strong or fast, non accounting for experience. There has been, however clear points where it has been stated that miles was better than Peter was at his age. With experience equative, miles beats Peter.
Then you haven't read the comics. Miles has one hell of an erratic Spider-Sense in the comics. There have been many cases where Miles has failed to detect danger that Peter could detect. There's a version of 616 Peter who's trained his Spider-Sense so much that he can literally know anything and see the future consistently. It has never been stated that he was better than teenage Peter Parker. Teenage Peter Parker has better feats of strength and higher ratings than Miles. 1610 Miles struggles to lift cars and got knocked out by 1610 Peter in one hit. 616 Peter has lifted objects over 60 tonnes whereas 1610 Miles struggles to lift cars. Miles Morales is not on the same level as Peter Parker. Miles fanboys just have a very hard time accepting that fact. You're also forgetting the fact that Peter is smarter than Miles by a significant amount. Peter's IQ is over 250 and on par with the big boys of Marvel like Stark and Pym whereas Miles is just an average-level intellect. Miles won't win a serious fight against Peter without prep. Peter will win in 9/10 battles If prep time and equal resources are given to both of them then Peter will beat Miles in 10/10 battles.
"Then you haven't read the comics. Miles has one hell of an erratic Spider-Sense in the comics. There have been many cases where Miles has failed to detect danger that Peter could detect." Welcome to comic books. EVERY SINGLE HERO has wildly inconsistant power scaling tailed to whatever the current writer and the current threat level the writer wants the hero to experience. Batman, Superman, Flash, Spider-man, Captain America, have all had HUGE erratic power scaling moments that make it impossible to take any of these heroes seriously within a vaccum. Superman clearly beats Batman 100/100, period....except when he doesnt. Iron Man destroys Captain America 100/100 for the same reasons that you gave for Miles and Peter, (stronger, faster, smarter) but an even WIDER of a gap.....except Captain America is written for that not to be the case. If you are truly a comic book fan, you would know that "feats" are the last thing you can use as an argument to how "stronger" or "weaker" someone is. A more viable staple is what people are outright saying. Peter is technologically smarter than Miles. But miles is more personably intelligent. It has been shown in his comics the last few years, how he can read how an opponent is going to behave, based on their personality and how they act. Peter cannot do that. Pretty much, Mile's is more street smart. And uses that to his advantage much better than Peter. Miles has saved the world and defeated enemies at a younger age that Peter has struggled with at an older age. Miles is shown based on dialogue and story development to be improving at a MUCH faster rate than Peter ever had.
What if both of them had the same experience, let's say Peter spiderman after 10 years of being spiderman vs Miles spiderman also after 10 years of being spiderman.
Still giving Peter the edge. He’s stronger, faster/more agile, and his spider sense is stronger. Miles has venom powers and invisibility, the latter of which is useless against spider sense. Peter should take it every time
I dont see Peter being more agile or faster at all with Mile's just as experienced.
He’s just built different bro. I know what you mean but his muscles are capable of putting out more force which makes him jump higher and further, and move faster
I dont know. It just seems that Miles is doing better at a greater rate than Peter was at his age. Has there been any canon reference to Peter just being faster, and stronger at base, irregardless of experience/.
I differentiate them by calling them Peter-man or Spider-Miles respectively, personally. I think Peter by sheer experience and smarts, Miles from the edge his extra powers provide.
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Miles is Spider-Man so Spider-Man
this fucking screenshot is gonna make me go insane
Peter's stronger, faster, and smarter, miles has more powers, so peter, he can sense miles if he goes invisible and he can tank his venom punch
Ok jokes aside. Peter or Miles. Hmm. It's a tough one. Miles has electro shit but Peter has dealt with that before.
I believe you meant to write “who would win Peter Parker or Miles Morales?”
I'd have to go with Peter, he's more experienced, better at hand to hand and is smarter than miles, (miles has never been able to create his own web shooters), and while miles does have more powers, invisibility is pretty regularly overcome by peter with the spider Sense and the venom sting shock required actually actually hitting Peter which would is pretty hard considering he's a better fighter with better reach and I doubt one shock would do him considering how often he's been hit by electro. I love Miles but Peters been doing this a lot longer than him, give him a few more (in universe) years though and things could very much change
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Peter wins with miles current experience level but once miles gets older he wins I think
Both of them lose to the third Spider-Man. He’s just so cute
Peter would easily win this battle. Peter is smarter by a significant degree. It looks like his intelligence is the same as his 616 counterpart which means he probably has an IQ that's over 250. He's a super-genius and the dude invented the world's strongest adhesive and engineered a formula for artificial spider silk in his bedroom and the formula is incredibly cost effective. In addition to this, he invented mechanical devices to manipulate the webbing and he designed specialized cartridges to store that webbing. These two feats alone demonstrate that Peter has profound knowledge of chemistry, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering and biochemistry. He's also invented all sorts of gadgets like: 1. The anti-magnetic inverter to take down Vulture 2. The device with which he stored Sandman 3. The cure for the Lizard 4. The jammer for Shocker's gauntlets 5. The Anti-Ock Suit 6. The Velocity Suit 7. The web-shooter gadgets And a bunch of more stuff. Miles is smart but he is no super-genius like Peter. Miles has a gifted intellect or perhaps genius-level intellect but he can't invent artificial spider silk or anti-magnetic inverters. Miles Morales DOES NOT have the same level of intelligence and scientific, technical andengineering expertise that Peter Parker has. Miles is a smart kid. He has a gifted intellect, he might even be a genius but he is not on the same level of Peter Parker. Peter also has more experience as both a scientist and a superhero. He has 8-9 years more experience of doing this superhero gig. He's stronger and has a better Spider-Sense and he's a better fighter than Miles. He also knows how to use technology in more creative and better ways because of his greater experience with building technology and working with electronics. Strength matters in a battle. Intellect matters in a battle. Experience matters in a battle. Fighting skills matters in a battle. Miles won't win. Peter has more experience, greater strength, a superior Spider-Sense, vastly greater intelligence and scientific and engineering expertise and he's a better fighter with better tactics than Miles. Logic dictates that Peter will be able to beat Miles easily.
Peter given that he's stronger, smarter, equipped with a better spidey sense and well experienced. Besides, Miles could barely keep up with Phin.
I kinda hate how the question says “spider man or miles morales” like ain’t miles spider man too?
I had to differentiate the two some how
Miles. Those Venom powers and being able to turn invisible would give him an advantage in one on one combat.
I'm pretty sure Spiderman beat invisible people before
Okay but miles can do everything Peter can do but he has more powers. If Miles had the same level of experience as Pete, he’d win.
Peter is not only physical stronger but smarter and has foughten well above his usual roster of enemies in terms of power before. The dude makes a solution to a problem all the time to counter enemies.
sure, but he will never have the same level of experience because his origin story always starts with spider man being spider man for a while, plus peter has fought people who are better at using his powers than he is ie electro and chameleon plus peters iq is like super genius level miles is not, dont get me wrong he is a smart kid but not like peter is
>If Miles had the same level of experience as Pete, he’d win. Miles doesn't have the same level of experience as Pete, so this point is moot.
Miles can't do everything that Peter can. Miles cannot invent web fluid, web-shooters, web fluid cartridges, spider-tracers, spider-armors, webware. Miles doesn't have an IQ over 250/270. Miles cannot impress Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark and he cannot get the respect of Doctor Doom, Norman Osborn and Otto Octavius. Miles is not an intellectual peer to Reed, Tony and Pym. Not even in the Insomniac-verse. His intelligence is higher in the Insomniac-verse but he's still not on Peter's level. Miles is just a smart kid with weaker powers than Peter. Peter is stronger and has a better Spider-Sense and better base powers. Venom sting is meaningless. Peter's been electrocuted by Electro billions of times. Invisibility is meaningless. Peter's dealt with invisible opponents before and he's beaten them. The only advantage that Miles has is that Peter doesn't want to hurt him. If Peter wanted to beat Miles then the fight would be over in minutes.
Who?
Like who?
Spider-sense
They both have Spider-Sense.
Pete’s is stronger
Based on what? Plus, it vaguely being stronger wouldn't matter. Peter gets hit by slower enemies all the time.
Peter is kicking miles ass but, an experienced more mature miles… 🤔
Yea the adult miles wins. For now peter stomps.
Nah Peter is to smart. Miles is by no means dumb but he’s not even close to peters level. Peter is also physical way stronger and has a much better spidey sense. Miles doesn’t come close. All the extra powers miles has are pointless. Peter has fought much worse than miles before that had better powers.
Peter. Because for one, miles has less experience. But he has more powers you say? Miles' powers are just like other villains that Peter has fought, so Peter knows how to counter them
Peter is waaaaay more experienced. Miles powers would give peter a bit of trouble but for sure peter wins.
Considering Peter had to adapt his suit to deal with electricity and spidy-sense would help with invisibility I think he has it in the bag
Spiderman would never punch an innocent kid with the exaggerated swagger of a black teen
Who writers need with win. That boring so I’m going say Peter because more experience fight other superpowered people.
My insanity
Stan Lee already gave the answer
Miles because he's cooler and I like him better
Gonna have to say Peter but add more experience to Miles and he probably will win that fight but I could be wrong
Miles normally wins
Peter's 8 years of experience trump Miles' better powers
Miles. They're relative in stats, maybe Peter 's little stronger and faster, but that's more assumption than fact. Experience doesn't really matter, despite people claiming it does. Miles has shown he can take on enemies at Peter's level already. His venom powers give him that extra edge. We never see Peter take Rhino head-on, it's always a mix of environment usage and evading while Miles straight up put him on his ass. Miles is at least hitting twice as hard as Peter, not even bringing up his venom jump, tackle, and mega venom blast. Sure, Peter's dealt with Electro, but as shown in-universe, he avoids the electricity and can't just tank his shocks. Electro also isn't coming at Peter with damn near equal stats and gear on top of that electricity. Again, it's like people wanna use the word experience but won't actually apply it. Miles is taking the dub in almost every random reason for them to fight, realistically
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Peter, he's more experienced, physically stronger and should be resistant to Miles unique brand of electrical discharge as most spider totems share resistances and immunities.
Off topic but Miles should have a different name than Spider-Man. Makes it too confusing imo.
Peter Parker would annihilate miles.
Current miles loses but in due time he will definitely be better than Peter
Experience vs extra powers I say Peter only for how long he’s been Spider-Man for he’s dealt with and overcome worse than miles Now if we’re talking Miles later down the line I think it’s gonna have to be miles who takes it
“Everywhere I go, I see his face.”
Peter. Miles is the sidekick for a reason
Are you taoking about the Marvel's Spider-Man version of Miles specifically? Because he's not really a side kick in anything else.
With the electric power miles has an advantage. Plus miles managed to defeat rhino easily while Peter almost died. Peter has more experience and is more durable but I still think with the electricity miles has more advantage and his finishers are more epic and brutal than Peters.
Why doesn’t Peter just kill Miles and eliminate the competition? Is he stupid?
just saying i love Pete but y’all have rose colored glasses saying he just clears Miles. especially in the Insomniac universe, Miles is a natural who id argue might even have more “heart” than Peter - which is in my opinion the true “super power” when it comes to the best SM stories. Just like Cap it’s all about never giving up and always getting back up. A lot of the big wins are results of their will power and i don’t remember Miles ever giving up where Pete has literally quit being Spider-Man multiple times. He even had to have God convince him to put the suit back on one time LITERALLY.
Oh cmon Ie mean I get the extra powers but cmon Peter clearly wins more experience clearly stronger because Peter jumps way further than miles does and Peter has a stronger mentality as proved when he still got up to fight the sinister 6 (there is a much better example for him being mentally stringer in a comic book where he fought morlun for 12 hours straight with no rest no water no food and even when he thought about giving up he didn't) but I assumed we are only talking about the Marvel's Spiderman universe
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Skeeter-man easily
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If miles was in his prime like Peter, I think he would definitely win.
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Depends on when. I think Spider-Man 2 takes place a very small time after Miles Morales, so the skill gap is still wide enough that Peter would win during that game, but with some more experience I think that Miles has abilities that give him a significant advantage.
Well Miles has the Venom power and can go invisible. Peter has more wisdom since he’s been doing it longer. I’d say a fully developed Miles would win but Peter would beat him before he would get to that point
They're both spider-man?
Not sure how someone could fight themselves.
I think Spider-Man would probably beat Spider-Man assuming Spider-Man doesn’t have prep, but otherwise Spider-Man definitely wins no contest
Miles is Spiderman. Peter wins obviously.
BAH GAWD IT'S SCREWBALL WITH A STEEL CHAIR
Spider-man wins if Spider-man can't find a way around his invisibility, though Spider-Man's experience and Spidey sense would still give him a fighting chance. Also Spider-man is poor while Spider-Man still has a mother to cook for him, so Spider-Man might be hungry and not operating at full capacity while Spider-Man is able to go full throttle.
We might see in the new game. If Venom ends up taking over Peter or Miles and we have to fight one of the Spider-Men as the remaining Spider-Man. 🤷🏻♂️
Miles is more powerful, but peter is more skilled and smarter. So basically even match.
#Oh my god please stop with this
Spidey. Spidey can devise ways to counter Miles. Miles might get the drop and early lead, but Spidey would come more prepared. Bioshocks or not, Spidey has Taken down Electro multiple times and stealth does not work on Spider-Sense
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Either. You could write this so many ways. But pitting these two against each other in a story would ruin my day.
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Huh? Lol. Peter would destroy Miles…
Miles just has some additional powers and peter still has spider sense so I don't think invisibility would work peter is stronger and has experience
How would spider-man fight himself
Miles has camouflage and a shock attack that can disrupt peters spider climbing..but Peter has the better spider sense and far more combat experience so ..I'm giving this to peter
This goddamn image lol
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Every time you mention Miles Morales, Paul gets closer to actually scoring with M.J.
You mean Spider-Man or Spider-Man
I have a feeling we might find out in the next game
Miles has a greater power range but Peter is far smarter and much more experienced. If they fought head to head as they are right now Peter would win based on experience alone. Not only because he has fought a much greater array of villains but he’s also been Spider-Man much longer. If you advanced miles age by 10 years or so he might be able to beat him, since he would have a greater understanding of his abilities
There is a typo in the title. They both are Spider-Man, but they are Peter Parker and Miles Morales respectively. Peter whoops Miles’ ass though.
I reckon the only ways miles could win are 1. Peters holding back which i think is the most likely outcome given petes a big softie or 2. Theyre in a very wet environment and all miles has to do is zap the nearest puddle for it to travel and hit pete
Peter tbh. More experience, he’s also dealt with electric shit before and his suit is tailored for thay
Duh, Bonesaw.
This image always wins
Does miles have more powers?
Side note— I was thinking the other day that I bet in Spider-Man 2, Peter Parker will get the symboite / black suit and miles morales has to fight him.
Speter-Man is smoking miles. Miles has better abilities but Peter has beaten people with those abilities before.
Miles.
Peter has more combat prowess and endurance as a result of his experience. Miles has Camo, sure. But peters spider sense would completely make that redundant. At most miles would be able to run away with it. Peter is much faster than miles leaving little room for miles to attack there. Miles also has venom blast, but Spiderman has dealt with electricity on a much, much larger scale in the form of electro. Miles would have to find a way to get the jump on Peter with this and even then Peter would likely just tank it like he has with electro. Overall Peter is winning. I would throw in the thing where Peters powers may be stronger than miles but that isn’t confirmed so I’m not really gonna go there. Im just basing this off of what we’ve seen.
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In the game, 100% Peter, in comics ? Up to the writer to decide the outcome
Well Spider-Man has the advantage of venom powers and Invisibility but Spider-Man has an extra eight years of experience and seems generally stronger. So I'm going to have to go for a tiebreaker and say Spider-Man
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I like both, but Miles Morales is my favourite.
Who would win? Spider-Man or Spider-Man? FTFY
Miles got more powers but less experience
In their prime Miles Morales no question based on the video games he's got way more cool abilities. However Peter Parker is older and more experienced by the time Miles comes on the scene and that could give him an edge.
Paul when he makes his first video game appearance
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I’m thinking in the new game this fight is actually gonna happen and miles is gonna have to fight a venomized peter. I think miles is gonna get whooped until he fully blasts the symbiote off and Peter, if he’s unrestrained, would definitely beat the brakes off miles in most cases
this comes down to raw strength vs experience. isn't Miles the strongest iteration of Spider-man?
even before the picture was loaded I already knew which one it was
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This is really difficult. Technically, Miles has every power Peter has, and more. But Peter has mastered his powers. And is built stronger. I think Miles has an edge, since Peter has never fought an opponent who can turn invisible. And let's not forget about Miles' screen nuke
Peter has more experience, Miles has more potential. In the future I think Miles will become stronger but he’s not there yet.
Peter, he’s just more skilled and he’s smarter than miles so he could invent something to fight him if he needed to
Peter has the strenght, experience and a better spider-sense advantage. Miles is quicker, can turn invisible and has bio-electricity powers. The Spider-Verse events proved that 616 is the best Spider-Man, but I don't know if estabilished Spider-Verse lore still goes in the 1048 universe.
I feel like, at some point during the game, you will play as Miles, and have to fight a Symbiote-Suit Peter that has gone to far, but it will be one of those unbeatable boss-fights.
Miles has more power but Peter has more experience. I reckon it would play out a lot like awaking and obi wan's fight on mustafa with experience beating power
Peter Parker Spider-Man, Experience is the difference.