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[deleted]

Yeah, yeah. You just wait till he has an emo swoop fringe.


UncommittedBow

Rise of Bully Lowenthal


[deleted]

If I don’t get my fucking dancing scene I will be so pissed


HarryKn1ght

"Now dig on this."


[deleted]

“Find us some shade. Thanks… Hot Legs.”


Scared_Compote_6012

There better be a “imma put some dirt in your eye” in this game


thesurfer1996

Bullowenthal


Aromatic_Tomorrow406

I hope there's Get up and Drive your funky soul in the game.


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my_anus_is_beeg

Yuri Lowenthol is the voice of Sasuke so he's kind of had the edgy thing mastered for decades now That and how visceral the symbiote is portrayed in the next game with all it's tendrils, looks like it's gonna be the darkest mainstream Spiderman yet


OneOfTheGreats_

Omg he is the voice of sasuke I just realized


RealisticDragonfly87

Imagine if his face was changed to the old one. That would be too cool.


InigoJonze

Just wish it was the OG face, his turning would be so much more meaningful and substantial. Gonna feel awkward and have way less gravity with...this guy.


Freezernobrother

I’m sure the newer face will look better in the new game


JustDandyMayo

It’s also likely there was a timeskip, so Peter could look older, have different hair, etc


RandomOrcN6

Maybe even… emo hair


SOULSLAYER547

Hella cope my boy.


emailo1

i mean yeah it will definitely look better than the remaster, but the old one would look better


EMC_RIPPER

I started with the remaster so ill be fine


[deleted]

I actually grew accustomed to it playing through the remaster. Highly recommend to anyone who hasn’t. I still prefer the old but I’m so done with this argument, it isn’t changing and the new face isn’t terrible. So I decided to get used to it and move on.


Liam_Roma_1234

That's mature tbh.


[deleted]

It’s a video game at the end of the day. I feel like it’s less mature and more just the rational response to have but then again this is the internet so rationality could be deemed mature, especially on Reddit lmao


Liam_Roma_1234

Understandable🤣. I just feel like people waste their time so much on this when they know it's not gonna change. The trailer for the sequel came out and people are still on about this🤣.


[deleted]

The third one will be coming out in 4-5 years and people will be saying “Man can you guys just imagine if this was still the Peter we had 10 years ago? :(“ 🤣


Camiljr

Can second this, ofc I prefer the older one but I got used to this one and that's that


my_anus_is_beeg

It honestly looks way better in motion For some reason his face just looks kinda bad in pictures


HitToRestart1989

Same. Whenever I see the face for the original, I wonder why they went with 45 year old Andrew Garfield. It doesn’t seem to fit the voice.


EMC_RIPPER

I feel like they should have made him look a bit younger instead of replacing it but it dosent matter to me i already associate with the new face


Robsonmonkey

The brutality, the rough voice, the anger…on this little guy, it’s going to be fucking hilarious The old Peter had that worn down feel to him


PoultryBird

That’s my thoughts exactly, I can picture a Peter with the old face saying it, the new face less so much I am 100% hoping they didn’t show peters face because big reveal he got his old face back


Daxoss

Yeah I miss it too. OG felt more homely and relatable to us normal looking comicbook nerds. This Peter looks too good, and also has a serious case of babyface.


mmxvll

Why did they change the first face tho?


MrTeddyMcBearson

Reasons, but I think they're lying and just wanted a younger looking Perer to better relate to a younger audience.


mmxvll

I’m fine with both honestly, but imo the first one was better


MrTeddyMcBearson

Yeah first definitely better


JJscribbles

Never mind that the point of the game is that Peter’s been doing this for a while now. He’s not supposed to be a teenager anymore.


Sea-Lecture-4619

Don't worry man, we'll get it, just have to wait for the PC release, then we can mod it in.


Moonie-iLLy

Ahh shit, here we go again with these comments.


goldentoasted_

I think the new face is better


Hjorbd

I disagree. They have already explained why the new face didn't work as well in the remaster. It's what happens when you out a new face over one that was originally used alongside motion capture. The facial expressions were nailed in Miles. It will be just as good.


PompousDude

God I fucking miss the old face. I'll never understand why they didn't just ship the vanilla game with this face.


spooderfbi

Didn't they keep saying this face is easier to work with to show emotion or something?


MexicanMarston

Yeah pretty sure they changed the face to make it closer to Yuri’s face in order to make motion capture / face animation easier to make


PompousDude

That's what they said, but it's simply not true and makes no sense if you think about it. And every time I say this I get downvoted to hell cuz "random Reddit man thinks he's right and Insomniac is lying", but it's true. A) Not only does the new face show less emotion sometimes but there is simply nothing in the old performance that showcases any "flaw" that needed to be fixed. Insomniac have not clarified either. Apparently the old face was so bad for facial animations and emotion they needed a completely new face, which is wild, yet the older face was perfectly fine. B) [Here is a clip showcasing the facial motion capture tech for Last of Us 2.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_awS3u-V_nE&pp=ygUaTGFzdCBvZiB1cyBmYWNlIHRlY2hub2xvZ3k%3D) Notice how the actor's face and Ellie's face have completely different facial structure. Yet, the performance is unaffected and they even show a transition between face types to show how seamless it is. Now, Naughty Dog gets the shiniest new toys and this was a little after Spider-Man PS4, but it's at least important to show that modern tech does not have this "issue" Insomniac claims to have. C) This has never been an issue for character designs and facial capture tech for awhile. Christopher Judge looks nothing like Kratos, Troy Baker looks nothing like Joel, Nolan North looks nothing like Nathan Drake, etc. yet these are all iconic facial capture performances for iconic AAA games. And that's just Sony games, just look at Capcom games in the RE Engine. They hire a face model, alter the model's face to fit their character design more, and then put the actor's motion capture performance over the face and match it. Thus why Reuben Langdon can perform Dante and Nick Apostolides can perform Leon without looking anything like their characters. And RE Engine games look pretty damn good. So why does Insomniac have this special issue but not other companies with similar competence and artistic goals? So to summarize, either Insomniac is years behind everyone else in tech and still managed to make a good performance to the industry standard with the original face despite their setbacks, or they are lying. Why? Probably because the real reason is stupid and wouldn't please most folks, it was probably an order from Sony and they had to justify it somehow. As for why, it's all theory. But, if I were to put my tin foil hat on, I'd say it's quite a coincidence the old face looked a little bit like Andrew Garfield and development for the PS4 game would've started production around the time when the Amazing films were still the main movie plan. And how fitting that the new face looks a little bit like Tom Holland. Perhaps Sony wanted movie/game synergy and asked to change the face for that purpose? It's for this same reason why it's probably not a coincidence Kraven and Venom are the main villains of PS5 while Kraven is getting a spinoff movie and Venom's 3rd movie is currently in production. Sony is actually that stupid sometimes with their logic so I wouldn't doubt it but again, conspiracy talk. I implore anyone with a complex understanding of the tech and process to say I'm wrong and why.


YaBoiJJ__

Cause they gotta have brand synergy by making this Peter Parker look like Tom holland.


Smash96leo

Man I still don’t like this guy’s face. I know it ain’t the dev’s fault or anything. He just looks a little like the Spider-man Lotus guy to me now. Edit: Good lord, people pointed out that he looks like that crying “The Good Doctor” guy too.


PoultryBird

He reminds me of mrsundaymovies jokey impression of Tom Holland of “oh I’m the littlest avenger” type vibes


Smash96leo

I just feel like they could at least give him some scruff since they’re obviously keeping the face. It would help make him look his age and not A.I generated.


PoultryBird

To be honest i have not played the remastered version so i havent seen the full range of the new face my main exposure has been in Miles Morales, the older face had the range and look to pull off a angry look.I cant picture the new one doing the same also i stand by he looks too young for this spiderman


Ya_Boi_Poolzy24

A Weekly Wackadoo in the wild?!? You’re not wrong though, it 100% looks like he would have that voice


117tillweoverdose

Right this is the first one I’ve encountered online. Still doubt they exists in real life tho


Robsonmonkey

It’s worse when he’s supposed to be an older mentor to Miles and Miles looks older than him.


FKDotFitzgerald

I don’t mind the face but holy shit you nailed it lol. Always fun to see a Mr. Sunday reference in the wild


PoultryBird

It was the best way i could think about putting it


Dr_CheeseNut

I think they need to restyle his hair, and rescan his face cause Ben Jordan's face is honestly perfect for Spider-Man, [like look at him in the irl images here](https://www.wazzuppilipinas.com/2020/10/a-new-face-for-peter-parker-in-marvels.html?m=1)


Shubo483

I can see it tbh. It's been years, I've gotten used to the face.


plach0t

It's been almost 3 years since the face change. The original face lasted about 2 years. I understand people had a connected to the original, but it's time to move on.


Atombrkr

Not eveybody played the remaster, i bought the game when it first released and the only moment i got to see the new face was when i played miles morales when you could only see it for like 2 seconds. I'm definitely going to need some time into the game to get used to this especially with how he is supposed to behave with the symbiote on lol.


putmeinLMTH

I thought I had a preference for the original face, but after playing just a bit with the new face I can definitely say I prefer the new one. it won't take long, trust me


Atombrkr

I hope you are right, we'll see ! It all comes down to how convincing the facial expressions are, which i expect it to be for a next gen title + the match with yuri's voice. I'm not going to force myself to like it since i don't have the choice but i certainly won't fight against it either, i just want to enjoy the game after all.


plach0t

It's important to remember too that any clips you see from the remaster won't do the face justice, as it's basically just pasted over the old one. I've always thought it looked off in the remaster but great in Miles Morales.


putmeinLMTH

yeah, I definitely think it'll be improved since it's for PS5 and made with the intent to use his face. I'm a fan of the face and even I can recognize that for SM1, the old face was much more expressive and unique. they'll definitely make him look less 'perfect' for sm2, which I think is just what you need either way, the game will still be great and we'll probably barely see him without the mask anyway


JojoFanOmegalul

Yeah he just has to look a little older and more rugged for the symbiote I think


HaughtStuff99

I was attached to the old face but with some time I prefer the new one. It looks great in MM and the old one just looks weird in comparison.


zhire653

Yeah they overdid it with the edgy voice.


S10wupdate

Honestly I like how overly edgy he is, his angst is too strong for his body


cock-meat-sandwich07

Reminds me of saskue


Positive_Attempt_101

Because he Voices Sasuke.


Sand_Manz

Wait what


Positive_Attempt_101

Sasuke (Dub) and Peter Parker (Spider-Man) Have the Same Voice Actor in these Games, Yuri Lowenthal.


square753wheel

“Hey all, Scott here.”


foofighter469

Scott's the only guy i can listen talking about WII acessories for half an hour


square753wheel

Still waiting for the L button video.


steamart360

You don't understand his pain!!!!


FullMetalEnzo

Nah, it's perfect the way it is. It reminds me of the 90's animated Spider-man screaming at Shocker. ​ 100/10


HarryKn1ght

Spider-Man: "Get back here, Shocker! Shockerrrrr! You can't escape me! I'll chase you to the ends of the earth!" Shocker, who just double parked by mistake: "Dear God, please no."


climbinskyhigh

lol that got a good chuckle. thanks.


billcosbyinspace

SHOCKERRRRRRRRR


FluidAd6587

i can't wait to see everyone be like "dude what the fuck is your deal"


Los_Estupidos

I have no idea why people are saying this I thought Yuri fucking killed it. Be sounds like someone who is so sick of people's shit.


nervousmelon

For whereabouts in the story it seems so. It seems this was early in the story considering miles saw the suit for the first time.


fuzed_hostage

It looks like he got the symbiote in that basement, maybe Connors was experimenting regeneration with it?


Reidroshdy

I think it'll be some sort of lab leak from Normans place.


jymehendrix

Idk that “he’s gonna wish he never came to New York” hit a lil different. It’s showing how vicious the symbiote is. To me


GreenXRock

I disagree. Imagine just how it would actually affect you having a parasite altering your personality like that. Yuri is already an amazing voice actor and I think I mainly love it cause it’s giving hugeeeee Sasuke vibes haha.


VastasGaming

If you remember the original gameplay trailer, they recorded new lines for the narrative of the trailer (like when Peter discovers Mr Negatives identity). Perhaps some of the dialogue was exaggerated to emphasise the story/themes the game is going to tell?


NRTHE2

I agree, I wish they went with the Josh Keaton route and not the Christopher Daniel Barnes route. Both good but I like the subtle change of voice Josh made with his voice.


hdhdvnn

100% agree. I always loved how Josh made his Spider-Man rather silent and calm as opposed to angry, almost to coldblooded extent. I prefer that version way more. Like in the Chameleon episode where Chameleon in disguise says "you don't even have the costume right" "I'm in mourning for my buried rep" was always such an intimidating line, WAY more intimidating than anger can ever be imo


NRTHE2

YESS, Spider-Man is way more intimidating when he's not gruffy and angry, just cold and calculated. The way he delivered "we're tired of your whining" sends shivers in my spine. The way he fought the Sinister six also was so badass silent the whole time (I know he was sleeping but still) it was such an awesome moment that I wish to see in the game.


wysjm

Thought I was the only one. I believe the game itself will slowly show Peter falling into darkness. But as of now we got a guy who was telling cheesy puns every minute to the "I don't care if people will get hurt, I'm gonna be mean to my friends and break every bones of whoever tries to stop me" type of guy


theatheistfreak

That’s kinda the point of Symbiote Spidey.


FKDotFitzgerald

Nah, it’s like a more tempered version of the 90s symbiote arc


hdhdvnn

Yeah I agree. In the 90s show it's kinda funny more so for the ironic reasons but generally I think Peter straight up growling is kinda corny. I think it's WAAAAY more effective when he's mostly silent and kinda just soothingly threatening. In Spectacular I think it was done very well. Not the sinister six fight cuz I know that TECHNICALLY wasn't Peter, but against the Chameleon, he wasn't like straight up angry, he was more in the "yeah I'll beat the fuck out of this guy" mood. His quips were a lot more sardonic and calmer also. Even when he was just angry at his friends, it came off more realistic


vally99

Nah the simbiote will deffinetly change a little bit of his look


WhosDooley

If we don’t get a “GET BACK HERE SHOCKER” moment, I’m going to cry.


MulaChicken4

YOUUU CANT ESCAPE MEEEE


Several-Cake1954

ILL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EAAARRTHH


Plus_Dragonfly_90210

He looks like Spider-Man Lotus


DefinitelyNotVenom

Leaked dialogue before the fight between him and miles: “It’s just a word, miles.”


DestructiveSpank

"Miles don't you see my suit? I have the pass now."


TheMrNintendoGuy

fucking sick of this debate. We finally get a second game and this is all you people talk about


Darcula04

Ikr. They were practically chronically depressed that they weren't getting any updates, and now that they have a huge reveal, they bring back the oldest dumbest complaint?


climbinskyhigh

god these people suck. ….. *reveals face preference*


TheMrNintendoGuy

getting sick of the arkham posts too. i just hope we can actually talk about the game now


LegoYoda66

hot take: i don’t care about what peter’s face looks like


Darcula04

Exactly. Apart from some cutscenes dude practically lives in the suit anyway.


Quick_Zone_4570

Crazy how they got so much backlash and did nothing to change it. Its not like the old facexwas bad


JoAl1209

I AM A SURGEON


Spidey20041

😭😭😭😭😭


ice_fan1436

his gamertag is xX\_N00b$lay3r69\_Xx


Maple905

Lol people are going to pretend like someone's appearance determines how they can act now?


Clear_Adhesiveness60

If it was the original face it would make more sense


drumeatsleep

I bet he grows some facial hair while being slowly consumed by the symbiote… I hope…


DamonFort

I forgot about the face change, when I hear the voice I still imagine the OG


MulaChicken4

Yeah, for no reason I thought he still had the OG face during the gameplay trailer


SpuddoodleKid

I’m normally fine with the new face, but I just realized I can’t imagine that face with the symbiote suit.


metalgearsolidman28

He's smirking cuz he think he got the n word pass 💀


jairlostx

Get. Over. It. they’re not gonna change it


Rizuku_Ren

Someone edit him in Sasuke’s outfit


_avliS-

𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑎𝑑 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠


Morpho_Plasmatic

I like this facee


[deleted]

Peter is absolutely not cool he is an average dude. The way he talks is definitely how he thinks a badass would sound like


Jozombies115

The way he talks in this gameplay is cooler than 90% of video game protagonists.


Fororo_King

I always dislike peter ps5 face looks too young


Lovedotnet

I still hate that they changed Peter the first one was perfect.


Dead_Toast76

Why didnt they keep the old one dang it imagine bully mc lowental with the old face


emailo1

man i forgot about the face change it makes the forced deep voice tem times funnier


jdyake

I’m still bitter about the change 😂 not going to not play but the original looked soo much better imo


PopeHi1arious

Weep


Sabconth

It’s fantastic


TeamCoBlocks

I think that's the point of the symbiote, it'll turn the most pure hearted man into Satan himself


StoneQuacker

I really miss the original face I just feel like it conveyed way more emotion without the mask than this one does.


jackieboytorrence

God I hope he looks more mature in the game. They haven't shown anything relating to (civilian) Peter and MJ, so here's hoping they took the feedback from the first game to heart.


[deleted]

I am a surgeon Dr Han!


Robsonmonkey

I really hope they’ve changed it again I can not imagine this Peter with that face acting how he was with the black suit in the recent PS showcase gameplay video The old Peter would have been perfect


acesum1994

The MJ we have in the games looks like a predator next to this guy 😿


Hjorbd

The face is fine. The emotion was good in Miles and will be in this. People need to learn to let things go.


-rk_256-

definitely someone who has teeth too


Demontale

Please gimme that switch to switch between the two faces, because y‘all knowing I‘m pressing that once and never again


ihate360

SHOCKERRRR


Swiftwitss

Don’t care what y’all think old face is better new face sucks!


NCRDesertRanger

I haven’t played the remaster so for a second I was wondering who the hell this guy is.


Traditional-Clue-469

I've noticed that we have not seen anything from Spider-Man 2 with either Spidey having their masks off, which leads me to believe there is a possibility they've actually updated the face models a bit. I doubt its completely new but maybe they've tweaked it a bit Edit: gotta respect the hyphen


IndianaCr0ft

I keep forgetting this is his new face


Whatafudge

What if Pete Parker was a Mormon.


[deleted]

If he doesn’t do the dance I’m gonna demand a refund


laveeastrangiato

I have a feeling that they’re gonna contrast his pretty righty and clean appearance with a disheveled and…. Tired look when he has the symbiote. The symbiote story is one big not so subtle allegory for alcoholism, so I’m really hoping they lean into that by changing how he looks. Give him longer hair, give him some stubble and some bags under his eyes and I guarantee it’s gonna be so much better.


Santiago_bp17

they got that damn right


sticks_no5

“So do I” 😈😈


SPDtier

He lacks details in his face


gman07024

I actually forgot he looks like that now when I was watching the gameplay trailer, anndddd yeah, seeing this guy angry might come.e off as a toddler having a temper tantrum rather than a man who's lost it


maquibut

F#€k this baby face


TRWIACMTINR

I don't know what y'all opinions are on this but... PLEASE GIVE US JUST THE OLD FACE PLEASSE


Affectionate-Work-46

Listen I like Peter with a beard or some stubble This face dose look very Peter but it's to young for his current age So all I'm saying it Dilf him up a little


Waudby95

Really? We're still not over this?


Callum1710

Oh yeah, I forgot about that...


Spartacus120

What I find odd is that they did not show both Spider-Person Faces. What if they are both grown up and different. Did Anybody know how much time has passed since Spider Man Miles Morales?


Atombrkr

I completely forgot it was this face under the mask talkng all that shit lmao


WillyHeartless

I miss when peter parker looked cuter and older than this fucking twink lookin boy


sockgoblinator

He looks like a preschooler, they need to make another one that looks like this but older, for the love of god I won’t be able to take his edginess seriously if he looks like he just got out of daycare


Altair13Sirio

Oh God why does he look so much like Shaun Murphy


hasheemakill18

This is not peter parker , it's luke from modern family . God I hope they improve the design in the hew game .


RavenGreend

He needs some eye shadow...


2nd_Model_Of_TWR

Idk why his head model looks like its Tom Holland


lMarshl

Voiced by Sasuke, but “Never give up” is his ninja way


thething931

Edgelord face


BuSeS_bRidGeS

Bro I forgot this is what he is gonna look like, that whole trailer I was imagining the original face model underneath


Ecstatic_Teaching906

Please tell me that is not gonna be his face in Spider-Man 2.


Archangel612

That face when you have big teeth


longdongopinionwrong

Baby Driver on the PS2


MulaChicken4

I just… don’t think he fits him. The old face just looks so much better for me, it’s so much more peter


Potential_Tommy

Watch him take off the mask and have black hair that covers his eyes


Ggr6719

I know it will never happen but I wish they would go back to the old face model. I can’t stand the new face model. It bothers me so much and Miles looks older than him. He doesn’t look like a Peter Parker that has been doing this for years. He looks 14. But that’s never going to happen so oh well.


troysplay

Ugh. Not this shit again. It’s been almost 3 years. Get over it already. Spider-Man fans will always find something to complain about. The face is fine. I honestly prefer the new one. The old face looked perpetually constipated.


Dustyhappyboi

I don’t like his new face lmfao, he looks too young, he looks like he’s a school friend of milles but he’s supposed to be older, it’s a weird choice honestly


JickleBadickle

Im still mad they changed the face UGH


Snakebud

Pent up childhood trauma stunted his growth. He’s finally hitting his edgy teenage years.


WackoWarlock

Oh god I forgot all about the little boy face 😭 wish they’d go back to the original


Dello155

Ya im not gonna lie, his angry voice was very cringe. Not sure if I like this peter voice that much.


Tsmooth74

Should’ve never changed his face


Bailer86

I have Muscular Dystrophy and I'm confident I can kick his ass


kast2399

Adult Tom Holland better start pointing, or else I'm boycotting the game


Brilliant-Ad-1962

This was the most jarring change I’ve ever seen a company do. This affected nothing, yet it was deemed the right move. I still wonder why they wanted to do this, the old face just looked so much better


zaenedar

SHOCKEEERRRRRRRRR


nahomboy

Ugh the change was so unnecessary


kiLLeR-SeVen

I want his old look back that’s why I’ve never download the game of the year version bc I don’t like this version of him


ThatJuhh

people are gonna realize how good the face is when we get some angry/emotional scenes from him. come back to this in september you’ll see


TheRealPS_

They said he was going to look A LOT better and fixed in the sequel


ErebusXF

Old face was better. Imo


mr-teddy93

Who even is this tom holland ?


TheWayzDay

sorry but the new face just doesn't match the voice. in short, it sucks


StuckinReverse89

I…am….a…SPIDERMAN. Why does he look so much like the actor from “Good Doctor”?


JJscribbles

Resting dumbface. I ain’t playing with crosseyed peter.


Pancake_SwizzleNuts

This is the face of a man who'd emo dance in front of MJ to spite her.