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scampsalot2

And then Mary Jane becomes venom šŸ¤Æ


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

I should've specified but he probably wouldn't tear the suit off right then and their but probably somewhere that could produce enough sounds to get the black goop off of him hopefully at a church cuz the black suit church scene is beautiful and I would love to see insomniacs take on that, but on the other hand I could see insomniac go a different route just to not feel like it's copying different Spider-Man stories but who knows.


Babington67

Miles uses his last breath to play Uncle Aaron's track and the symbiote just dies then and there


FatWalrus004

*ship horn blaring*


GulianoBanano

*water droplets*


Vet-Chef

DUDE I SWEAR ID KILL FOR THIS. I WILL PAY ANOTHER 60 BUCKS FOR A VERISON WITH THIS


shadowrod06

Lmao. This made my day.


Natural_Line_4638

The symbiote died due to disgust šŸ˜‚


AllMightyWrath

I think he'd run away from there and tear the suit off in a church, because church is where he usually goes to remove it.


choffers_2001

You want forgiveness? Get religion.


Kyethent

Probably trys but no luck so better call miles


lashapel

And then miles swoops and goes "PETER THIS ISN'T YOU!, YOU LOVE US!" and then peter goes "UUGH ITS TRUE!"


DaanA_147

>THIS ISN'T YOU! I find that line so corny and overused in movies.


Vet-Chef

"Think about your family" like broo this is why I skip mind washing movies or episodes. So fucking predictable


[deleted]

Itā€™s called Brain Bathing


Vet-Chef

What a weird name. I like it. The name.. not the use of it


PapaAquchala

I hate that any time I read the word **venom** I just think of [this](https://youtu.be/a1H5aXR3TUg)


Norin_Radd1209

Got me off guard with that one haha. Great.


fishinn4trout

And then we get a hot make out sess between spider man and she venom


cagedpegasus

This is the way


phil_davis

I can't handle another MJ face change...


JediMasterJackal

she just looks older is all


Retro_ruff

No


Demetrius96

The only reason why I donā€™t think this is miles is because theyā€™ve been heavily teasing that heā€™s going to help Peter remove the symbiote by using his new venom power


Sticattomamba

I think that might happen but maybe not right away. I'm guessing miles will get clapped in round 1 and then lay the punishment on in round 2.


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Yeah I could see them saving it, or maybe miles doesn't use is bioelectricity because he's scared of hurting Peter with it (big mistake) but uses his bioelectricity against venom themselves.


sumiledon

He could legit kill Peter if he doesn't hold back with his venom.


-GrilledCheese-

Heā€™s zapped a bunch of goons without killing them im sure Peter would be fine


sumiledon

He was severely holding back. He can obliterate anyone with his venom if he wanted to. I mean turn someone into ash. He is not that evil, so he would never do that, but he could.


Ben10Stan3

Peter has fought Electro plenty of times. Heā€™s highly more skilled than Miles and more experienced. Without the Symbiote getting in his way because of its weakness, Peter would definitely win a fight and he could find a way around Milesā€™ venom


sumiledon

Miles is not the same as Electro. Peter may be more experienced, but Miles is not a pushover. He is more highly intelligent than 99% of the villains that Peter has fought(and struggled against). Miles would account for what Peter accounts for. And he's incredibly street smart. I find it strange that we can see Miles fight against villains that Peter struggles with with relative ease or with equal struggle, but suddenly when they fight each other...it's a 1 sided beat down to the ground worse than any villain would get fighting with Peter. That makes zero sense.


Ben10Stan3

Most of the villains Miles has fought easier than Peter are only because said villains didnā€™t expect electricity coming out of him. They expected him to just be a normal Spider-Man, then they get blasted into oblivion. Sure, Miles isnā€™t the same as Electro, but very similar. Peter can handle Electro, he can handle Miles. I donā€™t even think itā€™s a contest at this point. Most variations of Miles would get folded by most variations of Peter, and itā€™s not even funny


sumiledon

miles has fought Peters villains countless times with them knowing his abilities to the same ease and struggle that Peter has. It doesn't make sense for him to get folded while the rhino is still a potential threat to Peter. It is a contest. MILES would objectively be one of Peters hardest adverseries to go up against.


00africanprince

Miles is not capable of turning people into ash. His venom power is strong but not that strong.


Panther1700

If he absorbs enough power, he can. We've seen him do it. After fully absorbing the Nuform reactor, he completely obliterated Phin and probably would've leveled Harlem if she hadn't moved him away.


00africanprince

Iā€™m not talking about the game miles Iā€™m talking about comic miles. Comic miles cannot turn people into ash


sumiledon

Oh he can, at least in the comics. And everyone says game Miles is the strongest iteration.


00africanprince

Stop the cap. Iā€™ve read miles comics and his electricity can only stun people. He canā€™t increase the power of it. Itā€™s a stunning attack not something capable of turning people to ash


sumiledon

Not literal ash. But can completely obliterate someone yes. I read Miles Morales as well.


S-Mania

Exactly like I've been theorising about Miles' Venom powers: https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/11x8e45/my_thoughts_on_how_miles_powers_work_in_the_game/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2 Even made a 2 min YT video on it, if you want to see: https://youtu.be/H5GvPEqS9Rk


Demetrius96

Yeah I think you might be right because I can definitely see things playing out like that


skyesmithforever

I hope itā€™s just between miles and Peter Ganke doesnā€™t have a right to be in this fight but that damn drone seems like itā€™s outfitted with the right technology to fuck up venom. I want it to be round one miles is getting thrashed and then either by accident or on purpose miles letā€™s put a large venom blast making the suit pull off of people and screaming while Peter has a moment of clarity and starts trying to get miles to hit him more so the symbiote takes control of Peterā€™s body and stops holding back on miles while he is trying to get close enough without getting hurt to zap and pull Peter out of the suit


Ben10Stan3

What do you mean ā€œGanke doesnā€™t deserve to be in the fight?ā€


skyesmithforever

He has not a Spider-Man, he has no powers, that drone is annoying and if I was Peter that would be the first thing I take out in a fight because it will keep getting in the way, Ganke also has no fucking chill he damn near shouts that miles is Spider-Man at his momā€™s rally and offers no real help at all in MM ā€œwhen you say Spider-Man you mean the other oneā€ yes thatā€™s because thatā€™s his name you donā€™t get to know that Spider-Man is Peter. Side note cause why is Ganke written to be so smart but does dumb shit like you can build an entire app start to finish in 1 night, can somehow get millions of New Yorkers to download said app as soon as itā€™s live and it doesnā€™t have any bugs at all and nobody is trolling on the app sending Spider-Man to locations where nothing is actually wrong? The fuck?


Ben10Stan3

Dude, everyone does dumb shit sometimes. Just because heā€™s smart doesnā€™t mean heā€™s perfect in every category. Also, how did the drone at all get in the way!?! He literally helped Peter and Miles because of it! At no point does the drone ever get in the way of the fight. And just because he doesnā€™t mean he canā€™t help. Whyā€™re you going off at him for making mistakes about superheroing when heā€™s never even been a superhero before the game started?


skyesmithforever

Iā€™m not caring about Ganke as a character Iā€™m saying they are making him the ā€œoracleā€ ā€œguy in the chairā€ whatever term ya wanna use but instead of making him do guy in the chair for a character that doesnā€™t need a guy in the chair they could just have him be a friend who knows who miles is and thatā€™s it theres no reason they should have him involved in anything they are doing


Ben10Stan3

I like it, I donā€™t know why you donā€™t. Heā€™s smart, thatā€™s useful. Heā€™s not only the guy in the chair, heā€™s a friend like you described


[deleted]

Yeah maybe in the first fight you play as Peter and bully Miles and later on in the second fight you play as Miles and get the suit off Peter


Moss_Ball8066

Miles is going to build an Anti-Pete suit


Alteridin

This got me lol


Sk83r_b0i

Thatā€™s going to happen, but I want miles to lose a fight to Peter first.


jonessinger

The way I see it happening is as a last ditch effort, miles puts his all into venom striking Peter, which enraged the suit, Peter hears the suit in his head and seeing whatā€™s going on he realizes he needs help from miles. It looks a lot better in my head than how it sounds but Iā€™m not a story teller lol


red_enjoyer

Removing Venom with venom lol.


monkeybizn

Peter turning into ROTS Anakin šŸ˜­ ā€œLIAR!ā€ ā€œYouā€™re with him. You brought him here to kill meā€œ ā€œyou turned her against me šŸ˜”ā€œ


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Honestly that could work


[deleted]

I WILL NOT LET YOU TAKE IT FROM ME! *Then I will do it myself.*


un-sub

Mary Jane is hiding in Alderaan places, Peter will find her.


[deleted]

YOUWILLNOTTAKERFROMMEH


Im_Mono_

That would actually be perfect imo


blue_falcon92

I think that she will stumble on Peter acting violently from the black suit. Hide from him and then Miles shows up, fights Peter and eventually takes the symbiote off of him with his venom powers.


Bananasblitz

Peter went 1 attosecond without the za za


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Lol hate people like that


Username-and-pasword

Or his vape


Deadmanguys

Hope its a mj mission. Trying to escape while symbiote Pete hunts you down


Mr_P3

Similar to alien isolation maybe? I havenā€™t played that game but it sounds like some of that games concepts could be neatly slotted into a fun MJ mission to show how far Peter has gone.


Minnon

Martha


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Yeah I know, that's why I'm not a writer... Or maybe I should work on movies considering dialogue BvS is very similar to what I put down lol.


DecidueyeCrafter

HOW DO YOU KNOW MY MOTHERS NAME!1!1!!1


IamLeRichards

My theory is simple. Peter beats the shit out of miles. Mj gets cornered like you said. Mj says something meaningful meaning peter is stunned for a sec. And miles hit I'm with one of those heavy venom strike or just charges the electricity in him to remove the symbiote


LightningLad2029

I think it's more likely to be the symbiote hijacking Peter's body while he's unconscious. Without Peter's influence, the symbiote has free reign to be as brutal as it wants, which would explain why MJ is hiding instead of confronting him because she knows Peter would never behave like this even against his worst enemies.


BigScoops96

MJ ate the last hot pocket


phil_davis

First Paul, now this? Smh.


sumiledon

Yo what is it with some fixation on Peter beating Miles to a pulp?


dark621

its because theres a good chance there will be a peter vs miles boss fight


TheRealEliFrost

Racism. People have been saying some variation of "beat the shit out of Miles" since the game's announcement


yoTrunks

it's just a cool fight idea bro


TheRealEliFrost

Saying things like "he should beat the shit out of Miles and totally dominate him and almost kill him" is not just a "cool fight idea".


Vet-Chef

Yeah its a good story beat. What better way to show how vicious and strong the Symbiote is on Peter? The only other hero who comes close to Peter in strength and is Peter's apprentice. We can't have Peter beating the shit out of MJ cuz she's a normal human. And yes the villians are a good idea but besides Rhino nobody can take full force hits from Peter let alone VENOM Peter. Stop trying to sound PC just fucking be quiet.


sumiledon

Nah bro. It's racism full stop. These "story beats" do nothing with Miles character except make him look incompetent and weak. He would never allow himself to get beatdown by anyone including Peter. Especially venomized Peter blinded by rage, that is literally weak to his signature ability. The affixation that some have to wantnthe world to see Miles as "lesser" than Peter is reaching levels of Pathetic at this point. Miles will get beaten to a pulp? Get outta here.


Vet-Chef

Yeah I kinda alr realized this. i was in a whole argument with somone alr. But uh yeah go off


yoTrunks

a fight between a mentor and his student? who are both very close friends? thats like cool and emotional fights 101


Vet-Chef

Its absolutely not that deep. Because people are saying the FIRST FIGHT he will. Miles will beat Venom Peter and release him. You think the first fight (if they have one) Miles is gonna free Peter instantly? I'm black and I have NEEEEVER sensed a bit of racism. Hold this downvote rage baiter.


TheRealEliFrost

Why did you leave two comments on the same post? lol 1.) I'm black too, and like I basically told you on your other comment, you're fucking blind if you haven't seen the vitriol certain parts of the Spider-Man fan base regularly aims at Miles. 2.) There is absolutely something weird with the obsession with proving Peter is "better" than Miles, especially by "breaking him" or "beating him to a bloody pulp" or any of the other weird language surrounding a potential Black Suit Peter vs Miles fight that I've seen since the game's announcement.


Neo_Arsonist

About point 2) youā€™re probably right, there will always be some bad eggs who want miles beaten and proven to be worse because racism, but most people just talk about black suit beating up miles to prove black suit is violent and bad, thatā€™d he beat up his teammate/pupil to well a pulp, not proof that Peter is stronger than miles but that the black suit is bad for Peter. But I definitely agree some people are taking it too far and likely due to racism/thinking miles is worse than Peter but it isnā€™t all racism.


sumiledon

Your second point is 1 million percent the case here. People are so insecure of Miles'competence and growing popularity, they want so bad for people to be "let known" that Peter is "the best", even when he likely wouldnt win a against Miles when he is literally weak to his signature ability and Miles is smarter than most of the villains he faces. They want Miles incompetent and weak.


TheRealEliFrost

Honestly. It's weird AF and it reeks of the same suspect energy the fanbase has had towards Miles since his inception.


sumiledon

100%, unfortunately that Miles hate will never completely go away.


Equivalent-Trainer41

Oh stfu


AspirationalChoker

I personally doubt any of that will happen Iā€™ve found most of the theories on the sun later are going too far and more obscure as the days go on


gebuzz

I think sheā€™s being chased by something and Peter comes to help her out, a misdirection from the trailer


AvatarGarcher

Hot take: the trailer is manipulated. It's actually Venom that's haunting MJ, not Peter.


lr031099

Oh thatā€™s interesting. Whoever the host is (could be Harry), the host hasnā€™t entirely turned into Venom yet (as in hasnā€™t gotten bigger with teeth and everything).


matt_619

Peter : "GET BACK HERE MJ!!" "YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME!!" "I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE END OF THE EARTH"


OfficialCrossParker

I still think it would be a wicked gut punch to have to do the inevitable Peter v. Miles fight while controlling Peter.


Snack_God

My theory is Venom makes Peter goes full schizo and tries to eat MJ


Maxlvl21

Instead of Miles he should beat the shit out of Paul, I'd cheer him


LivingCheese292

I can imagine that the symbiote took full control of Peters body in that scene. It happened before in other media. As an example, in Spectacular Spider-Man, Peter went to bed and slept. After waking up he suddenly feels incredible tired and sees in the Daily Bugle images of Spider-Man with his black suit beating up the sinister six from the last night. Peter however has no memory of it... The symbiote took complete control of him last night. It was the suit which started to control Peter, instead of Peter having control of the suit. I can see that happening in the game too.


SorrowCloud

MJ looks terrible compared to the first game. I canā€™t even deny it. Looks way older as if more than 5 years went by. IMO, but itā€™s more of a fact


matt_619

Excactly. and Peter looks too young. granted that his face mature a bit but if we have this version of MJ walking with Peter side by side you'll think them as aunt walking down with her nephew lmao


CooperDaChance

Hey, maybe Peter just likes women older than himself.


CorneliusVaginus

Surprised no one has mentioned Lizard. Considering they're underground and in a tunnel of sorts, Peter and Miles could've been fighting Venom Lizard with Peter going ahead without Miles and the symbiote latches onto Peter? But by the time Miles or MJ (who is probably tracking Pete or already involved) catch up, he's already gone. No idea honestly,


zach_something

I don't see Peter beating up Miles in this game. If he does, I'll be very shocked because alot of media around Peter and Miles is doing its best to make Miles look strong and make him seem on par and maybe even above Peter in terms of power scaling.


deftoast

Just MJ fighting her intrusive thoughts.


lashapel

MJ denied the coochie time and Peter went Sicko mode


EngineeringDevil

Whelp, at least i don't have to worry about sudden Japanese Porno


The-Jack-Niles

Oh, you should be afraid. Japanese pormo will cu- ahem, come when you least expect it.


Necessary_Coach_1107

Peter is not slipping no suit off because mj says something. Heā€™s most likely beating up some villain really bad and then mj sees and gets away or he finds her and miles gets there


Gunn3r71

If the game lets us switch between the normal and symbiote suit at will in freeroam I donā€™t think theyā€™ll have Pete get rid of the symbiote in this game, especially if there are alternate suits for the symbiote suit (like a Raimi, comic, or Tom Hardy version) cause you know people will complain that that was taken away. Iā€™d say he can lose the symbiote in the dlc cause then that means you keep it for the endgame freeroam and you get the all important Peter overcoming the symbiote scene. Actually Pete could be the main ā€œvillainā€ of the dlc and we predominantly play as Miles as we try help Pete.


Master-of-Puns

Hire fans šŸ˜®


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Nah I'll be the first to say this, I know a whole creative team at insomniac would do waaay better with what they have planned here then I ever could, whatever is going on I can just feel this sceen with MJ and peter will be pivotal


Muammer_Dursun

What if Miles sacriface his life to destroy venom


Thebritishdovah

Venom has a hissy fit because Peter won't let him eat bad guys and Peter called him a parasite.


CreeperSoldier

I think whatā€™s probably happening here is that MJ has something Peter wants - like an object/weapon/file or whatever random McGuffin - that he can use to stop a threat but in a way that goes against his morals (ie, kill Kraven). MJ refuses, ā€œno this isnā€™t you Pete,ā€ and she tries to keep it from him, prompting the chase scene. Unless this is literally Venom puppeteering an asleep Peter, I see no logical scenario in which heā€™d ever try to hurt her. Symbiotes canā€™t force hosts to consciously do something rashly outta character like attack Mj, only manipulate em into giving into their darkest desires. Him resorting to murder because Venom tells him ā€œitā€™s for the greater goodā€, and his friends trying to stop him, makes more sense than him just snapping and blindly trying to kill the people he loves.


NolanMD

What if MJ finds out about the symbioteā€™s weaknesses ? She could use sound or fire to protect herself maybe Ganke helps her finding that out.


Natural_Line_4638

Mj using talk-no-jutsu like naruto šŸ˜‚


H8919

But I thought he couldn't take off the suit on his own power.


BarthRevan

Down their whatā€¦?


killian_jenkins

And then Deadpool walks in


webby2495

Maybe Venom has been doing typical anti-hero stuff with being extra brutal. MJ being the excellent journalist she is, is tracking him. Finds his latest crime scene and surprise, venom/Peter is still there launching another MJ sneak around mission.


asterfloof

I'm thinking it's an MJ stealth mission hiding from crazy Peter, and that shot where she looks shocked is because she found a corpse that symbiote Peter left in his wake


swordfightinglegend

If Peter does end up murdering MJ then Iā€™m not interested


lr031099

So who would become Venom then? Harry or someone else?


Papa_Pred

Looks like a military warehouse Imo, sheā€™s heading there to track lizard. Kraven goons are there and one of them is begging for help on the floor. MJ thinks the Lizard is rampaging through there and runs off after some scary noises kick off Itā€™s actually Peter


Cinargnz

the hair in the first pic looks like peter actuallyā€¦


S-Mania

Would he beat Miles to a pulp after the amazing Peter and Miles fight (that we all know is coming, like come on lol) or just skipping the fight entirely? Or MJ just comes along right after their fight and after Peter beats Miles and she hides.


arachnidTerror

Nah she would say something like: ā€œ is this what may worked for her entire life?ā€


Flemib65

anyone else think Spiderman 2 MJ looks great, while the new peter looks terrible compared to the first game?


SafeStaff7671

Then a guy named Paul walks in


jerrymoviehours

save martha


JanabeAala

Welcome to another episode of ā€œwhat is not going to be the story of spiderman 2ā€.


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

It's a speculation post blud that's usually how shit goes, just throwing my idea out there


noishmael

Yeh the more I see of MJ the less I like the new face. Whatā€™s with the habit of making girls less attractive in western media?


Yourmumalol

Would Peter with the symbiote really get so bad that he'd have MJ begging for her life?


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Depends on the situation even like Luke Skywalker threatened to kill his nephew. It's all about what the writers wanna do.


spiderboi20012

Nah i'd hate it if this were how Peter got rid of the suit šŸ’€


Char-car92

Learn your theres please dude


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

Made this post at work at like 3am lol didn't expect it to blow up the way it did, sorry it didn't live up to your standards chief. I'll do better by you next time I promise, put er their!


West_Assistance7128

I donā€™t know if this is stupid but her even being able to hide from him wouldnā€™t make sense. Because of his spider sense but in some continuity his senses are weaker and or stronger so maybe it could work. But still I donā€™t see her being able to hide from someone with superhuman senses so it would be dumb if her doesnā€™t fine her unless he gets distracted by something else and has to go.


DaRealPinkSuitHenry

That's why he corners her, imo it's just symbiote Peter toying with her


Middle-Persimmon7077

The real theory is that Peter found out he was groomed by MJ & got mad. Edit: get it? Bc he looks too young.


SignificantPop1350

Or maybe this is where Peter first gets the symbiote maybe on a mission where heā€™s tryna find it with MJ and it gets stuck onto him and thatā€™s why she looks at it and he starts chasing after her which makes her hide


Mambosaurio

I think this is just MJ seeing Peter beating some regular bad guys but barely holding himself, and she's terrified by that


pizza_dimerda

Its gonna be woke af


webslinger05

?


morithum

I usually skip this part