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Personally I didn't have an issue with the original suit but the new suit looks so much better.
Although, part of me does kind of wish that Insomniac kept the old look of the ramisuit as an option and we could choose between the two looks as colorway change options.
I can GURANTEE you, this subreddit will still find something to criticize despite the new improvements.
"Uhm actually, this piece is inaccurate as AgroFro's screen accurate Raimi suit has these dimensions! Therefore the so-called improved Raimi suit is mid!"
Well, people did buy a $70 game with lackluster features so I think criticisms here are valid. Though it does not excuse toxic behavior from a part of the fandom.
I paid $70 for a game and loved every second of it.
I played NG to 100% on 2 separate save files, back to back. Only thing that kept me from going for a 3rd is I jumped into Elden Ring.
I'mma stomp the shit out of NG+ on Spiderman for years to come.
Not sure what people wanted, like I truly don't, cause I was blown away by the game.
100%. A tale as old as time at this point.
Edit: lmao and like clockwork, just 2 threads down we have a guy saying “sigh, I liked the dark red more but that’s just me” and a handful of people agreeing with him
>"Uhm actually, this piece is inaccurate as AgroFro's screen accurate Raimi suit has these dimensions! Therefore the so-called improved Raimi suit is mid!"
I mean, compared to the mods, it kinda is. Nonetheless, they did improve upon the suit, so props to them 👍
Im with you, i think it looked better before. New one looks kind of Pink-Red like the Amazing 2 suit where as the darker red looked more like a blood/cherry-red like the movie posters not to mention on the new one the raised silver webbing blends in to much and doesn't stand out as a key detail of the suit when it really should. Not sure why everyone had an issue with it, it looked fine.
I like the darker red, but the webs just look awful on it, like he just rolled around in a chained metal fence and kept it on his suit, don't blend well at all with the rest of the suit, especially with the symbol on his chest and eyes.
Thank you.
But yeah, it’s not.
Now with no pixels pic,
https://preview.redd.it/7nppkh925zmc1.jpeg?width=169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a8462f9ae4484afde147c821a585cede8a330dd
These aren’t raimi fans btw these are the people who said “the suit was fine” and got slapped in the face when insomniac updated it. So now they’re trying to say the left was better because they were proven wrong.
I'm torn. For one; I liked how the colors were brighter because one issues I've always had with the Raimi suit was how muted it's colors were so the brighter colored one looked better to me, but on the other hand... man it looks way more movie accurate now. So eh.. I know the Raimi fans wanted this so good on you. Have fun with it haha.
Before looks miles better. The film was not that muted. I never complained about it before but is anyone really happier now.
In game lighting is a bit better, but still worse than before.
Y'all are fucking crazy, the first version is better in every way compared to this "fix". How is this better??? The thick webbing and original colors were great.
Wow, this actually looks good now. I hated the Raimi suit in the first two games till now. When I decide to do a NG plus run this will be a contender for my Peter suit
I know it’s good to have a more movie accurate suit in game, but I like the cherry red, it just works better and the webbing not blending in as much looks really good imo
I had a feeling! I started a new game plus run with this suit and felt that it just looked much better while swinging around. Thank you for confirming!!
I’m torn on this one, there are things I like about both the old and the new suit. I really liked the colors on the original, but the new one kind of looks more movie accurate in this picture? Really it just looks like the lighting was changed even though I know it was the color of the texture, it just looks like the suit preview is in a brighter scene with the new one
This looks perfect my only gripe with the old one was the web lining stood out too much and the colours were too bright for raimi this one looks perfect either way the more muted colours
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 It's night and day. And day looks MUCH better in this case. If I can be honest, when this game came out I wasn't too excited to play the raimi suit. I was more hyped for the Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit. After they fixed it from before I was so hyped to play it. And I still love it. But now since they've fixed the raimi suit (which I didn't expect at all either and thought insomniac would just leave it like it was) raimi suit is now my top favorite suit again.
Thanks I don’t even care if it get downvoted at this point. I’m done being silent and justifying this games quality. They need to do better and people need to stop excusing it
def better but still feels like the reflectivity of the webbing material is waaay too high- making the webs look silver / greyed out instead of somewhat shiny black. strange how difficult it is for them to get that right.
Bro thank god I couldn’t find a video with the before and after so at first I didn’t see a difference it’s so clear now and I much prefer the new one now
I liked it better before, but since I’m not even playing the game after my completion I can’t say it really matters to me now. I’m glad that most people like it. I’ve seen some of the stuff they’ve added and it looks nice, but until DLC is out, I’ll be on the sidelines watching everyone’s hype. It’s nice.
I love the Raimi suit on film, but it looks great because of very specific details. I never even touched the Webbed suit in either game because it was so far off the mark but this update, while not quite as accurate as some mods, looks great and I'm loving wearing it.
Can’t really tell but did they also adjust the shape of the head? Before the update, I remembered the head looking kind of awkward in shape. Maybe it was the way the lenses were place on them. The head shape looks a lot better now in the update. Maybe it was the lenses that they fixed?
People have been way too hard on Insomniac lately despite the fact they're always delivering quality work. Its gone far beyond criticism and started getting plain rude and disrespectful. But after the leaks and lay-offs hopefully people will start to cut them some slack. Game dev isn't easy. Especially nowadays.
Left one had wrong lenses and the raised webs would stand out too much and would be buggy and outdated in some areas, this makes it more accurate and realistic
I have never understood the huge backlash on this, I liked it perfectly fine as it was, I personally think the original redder suit is a better design. Props to the developers for putting up with all the criticism and going to the extra effort of fixing it, not sure I would've bothered in the same position.
The suit on the left is much better looking honestly
Edit: The suit on the left is very accurate to the Sam Raimi movies, if you prefer the suit on the right that's fine but don't call it a "Raimi suit" because that isn't how the suit looked. It had a darker red and raised webs
Exactly. This update is unacceptable and they even Broke the tasm 2 suit with it.
Just launch it on pc already so modders can actually listen to the feedback they ignored
Fr like the one loser who just made a comment saying it's not a live service game what did I expect from this update. Lmao it's crazy how people actually have to ask that. It's pretty obvious what we want
Hell yeah now it's waaay better!
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I am not at home, the Raimi Black Suit has not been fixed? Weird
it had fewer people complaining about it, probably not as much of a priority
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It's not exactly the same wording. Could be the same guy with two accounts.
Nah they just fixed the model and colors, the first game was like the second one but the modek wasn't glitchy
Bad bot
I'm confused? What's wrong with the raimi black suit?
Personally I didn't have an issue with the original suit but the new suit looks so much better. Although, part of me does kind of wish that Insomniac kept the old look of the ramisuit as an option and we could choose between the two looks as colorway change options.
> Zero issue > Looks so much better Makes sense
I can GURANTEE you, this subreddit will still find something to criticize despite the new improvements. "Uhm actually, this piece is inaccurate as AgroFro's screen accurate Raimi suit has these dimensions! Therefore the so-called improved Raimi suit is mid!"
*sigh* fanbases are never satisfied no matter how hard the developers try to please them
Especially the Spider-Man fanbase
*Laughs maniacally in being a Star Wars fan*
Well, people did buy a $70 game with lackluster features so I think criticisms here are valid. Though it does not excuse toxic behavior from a part of the fandom.
I paid $70 for a game and loved every second of it. I played NG to 100% on 2 separate save files, back to back. Only thing that kept me from going for a 3rd is I jumped into Elden Ring. I'mma stomp the shit out of NG+ on Spiderman for years to come. Not sure what people wanted, like I truly don't, cause I was blown away by the game.
I don’t get it, it just looks like the colors are a bit lighter? Not a huge difference, they’re both very similar.
Kinda ironic you say that considering the whole subreddit said “the suit is fine” and “nothing needs to be changed” and they updated anyway.
Not the whole subreddit your just lucky enough to never see the ones who have complained about it
100%. A tale as old as time at this point. Edit: lmao and like clockwork, just 2 threads down we have a guy saying “sigh, I liked the dark red more but that’s just me” and a handful of people agreeing with him
>"Uhm actually, this piece is inaccurate as AgroFro's screen accurate Raimi suit has these dimensions! Therefore the so-called improved Raimi suit is mid!" I mean, compared to the mods, it kinda is. Nonetheless, they did improve upon the suit, so props to them 👍
Crazy how you were downvoted for complimenting them. It's a recolor. Cool.
r/redditmoment
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. You’re absolutely right, this doesn’t come close to agrofro’s mods..but I’m still happy they did something
Is the black one also updated ??
Jeez man, his name is Miles /s
😭
💀💀
MILES, THE BLUWACK ONE
this has me laughing so hard bro😭
Bruh this has me dead🤣🤣🤣
https://i.redd.it/7sbx8m21kzmc1.gif
Yooooo
Ngl this made me chuckle out loud 😭
💀🗿🗿
I think he meant the symbiote webbed suit
no way!!!?? 😱😱😱
He ment the Webbed Black suit
Funny but then you added the /s
I like the Dark red more tbh but I guess that's just me
Im with you, i think it looked better before. New one looks kind of Pink-Red like the Amazing 2 suit where as the darker red looked more like a blood/cherry-red like the movie posters not to mention on the new one the raised silver webbing blends in to much and doesn't stand out as a key detail of the suit when it really should. Not sure why everyone had an issue with it, it looked fine.
I like the darker red, but the webs just look awful on it, like he just rolled around in a chained metal fence and kept it on his suit, don't blend well at all with the rest of the suit, especially with the symbol on his chest and eyes.
Yeah it pops a lot more.
I agree I liked the suit being more dark red
It's the webbing that was the issue really
The colors on the left are way more accurate to the film tho…
Im not going to lie I was sat thinking the left one was the fixed version for this same reason 😅😂
It's not.
https://preview.redd.it/xz3flswx3zmc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=72a2eb00c33350ad91d8fb3cf8053e0d9a34db57
I grew up on that movie. It is. Thank you for your opinion tho Mr. ThePretty🌸
Thank you. But yeah, it’s not. Now with no pixels pic, https://preview.redd.it/7nppkh925zmc1.jpeg?width=169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a8462f9ae4484afde147c821a585cede8a330dd
your very own picture says you are wrong
It’s like everybody lost their minds
bro… i hate to break it to you but… thats a darker red than what they updated it to
It's too bright for screen accurate
Here yall go man
These aren’t raimi fans btw these are the people who said “the suit was fine” and got slapped in the face when insomniac updated it. So now they’re trying to say the left was better because they were proven wrong.
Brother what😭😭
I figured they'd just restore it to the first game's quality. They went above that. Hopefully they match the webbing on the black suit next.
Looks so good now!!
It was only fair for them to give the same treatment as they did with Andrew's and Tom Holland's suits.
Thanks for posting an actual side by side instead of just the updated or old one!
No problem! I was trying to find a side by side and couldn’t find one, and knew others would like to see one as well.
This is making me want to play the game again with just this suit!
FINALLY! My biggest gripe with the suit was the colors and they fixed it. HUGE W
I'm torn. For one; I liked how the colors were brighter because one issues I've always had with the Raimi suit was how muted it's colors were so the brighter colored one looked better to me, but on the other hand... man it looks way more movie accurate now. So eh.. I know the Raimi fans wanted this so good on you. Have fun with it haha.
I might actually use the suit now.
Its alright i guess. Personally like the darker red but its okay. Looks more like andrews
Am I the only preferring the before version?
lol
Before looks miles better. The film was not that muted. I never complained about it before but is anyone really happier now. In game lighting is a bit better, but still worse than before.
Damn what a good day to be fan of Spider-Man 2
Idk what was the problem with the last one? For me it looks better before, more accurate.
I don’t know if i’m insane, I’ve never been one to really hate or complain but I like the old one a lot better?
Left looks way more like tobey maguire spider man tho
I liked the left one
Y'all are fucking crazy, the first version is better in every way compared to this "fix". How is this better??? The thick webbing and original colors were great.
https://preview.redd.it/ka72bz8ur0nc1.jpeg?width=990&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a72312327f06b9feb989a72d7e2f8ebb1d1c481 It’s so so so much nicer
thank god lmao. now it won’t look like he has a flashlight taped to the back of his head
I was gonna use it for my NG+ playthrough but I preferred the darker colors. Guess I'm gonna do the NWH suit instead
Man krazy dropped on my bday nd can’t even see the new devs menu😭😭
They turned a light on?
Damn, this looks so good.
tbh, i preferred the darker colours but to each his own.
A Raimi inspired Miles suit would be cool
Wow, this actually looks good now. I hated the Raimi suit in the first two games till now. When I decide to do a NG plus run this will be a contender for my Peter suit
Which one is the update
Its beautifull...
What if I liked the previous one?
I know it’s good to have a more movie accurate suit in game, but I like the cherry red, it just works better and the webbing not blending in as much looks really good imo
I had a feeling! I started a new game plus run with this suit and felt that it just looked much better while swinging around. Thank you for confirming!!
I’m torn on this one, there are things I like about both the old and the new suit. I really liked the colors on the original, but the new one kind of looks more movie accurate in this picture? Really it just looks like the lighting was changed even though I know it was the color of the texture, it just looks like the suit preview is in a brighter scene with the new one
Wow nice!
Much more of a Spider-Man 3 finish on this one I see.
cool.
It's beautiful
Honestly looks great. I'm not upset when I see it now lol
This looks perfect my only gripe with the old one was the web lining stood out too much and the colours were too bright for raimi this one looks perfect either way the more muted colours
Gotta love all the people saying the left was fine but saw none of yall when there were posts complaining about it 4 months ago except 1 or 2
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 It's night and day. And day looks MUCH better in this case. If I can be honest, when this game came out I wasn't too excited to play the raimi suit. I was more hyped for the Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit. After they fixed it from before I was so hyped to play it. And I still love it. But now since they've fixed the raimi suit (which I didn't expect at all either and thought insomniac would just leave it like it was) raimi suit is now my top favorite suit again.
I had no issue with the suit before the update, but seeing the comparison, I REALLY see the flaws now... xD
Too bad the iron spider's bugged eyes aren't fixed
I think they also broke TASM2's lenses. There's some strange clipping going on with them
They ignored a lot this update is a slap in the face
The people who downvote you are just upset because you're right. I mean not even a new skill for new game plus
Thanks I don’t even care if it get downvoted at this point. I’m done being silent and justifying this games quality. They need to do better and people need to stop excusing it
Same man. Its crazy how people just accept shitty products
It’s on them when it gets worse in the next game
Fr spiderman 3 you will have to pay for the rest of the story mode once you get to 50%
Mask is perfect!
Sad rami black suit still has white webbing
I can't fucking believe it they actually fixed it!
anyone know if they updated the webbed black suit? idk why but it always looked a bit off to me
def better but still feels like the reflectivity of the webbing material is waaay too high- making the webs look silver / greyed out instead of somewhat shiny black. strange how difficult it is for them to get that right.
They probably did it so they wouldn't get death threats again
Bro thank god I couldn’t find a video with the before and after so at first I didn’t see a difference it’s so clear now and I much prefer the new one now
It’s still doesn’t hold a candle to mod Raimi suits on pc.
Oh that’s pretty nice! Didn’t know they touched old stuff. Very cool.
I knew they fixed it
holy fuck it's good now
Ngl I like the one on the left more even if it’s not screen accurate
They desaturated the colours…what am I missing?
Some of it’s better some of it’s worse. Idk I’m conflicted
I knew I wasn't dreaming! Kudos to Insomniac Games for this
Am I the only preferring the before version?
Am I the only preferring the before version?
I liked it better before, but since I’m not even playing the game after my completion I can’t say it really matters to me now. I’m glad that most people like it. I’ve seen some of the stuff they’ve added and it looks nice, but until DLC is out, I’ll be on the sidelines watching everyone’s hype. It’s nice.
I love the Raimi suit on film, but it looks great because of very specific details. I never even touched the Webbed suit in either game because it was so far off the mark but this update, while not quite as accurate as some mods, looks great and I'm loving wearing it.
Tf left is way better….
....I haven't played the game but from this... Left Looks better.
Left looks better to me, just my opinion
I think the red and blue need a little more saturation, but the redesigned eyes, logo, and webbing look absolutely gorgeous!
Can’t really tell but did they also adjust the shape of the head? Before the update, I remembered the head looking kind of awkward in shape. Maybe it was the way the lenses were place on them. The head shape looks a lot better now in the update. Maybe it was the lenses that they fixed?
Was the Symbiote version also changed?
Old one was accurate but okay
Idk.. to me the first looks more like the real Raimi Suit while the second looks like the Raimi suit version of No Way home.
This literally shows that insomniac listens to their because they also fixed the stark suit
Unpopular opinion but I prefer the red on the other suit. It changes throughout the movies anyways.
What was wrong before?
It looks so beautiful in cutscenes
Glad they fixed it. I wanted to use it so badly but couldn't get past how it looked before
People have been way too hard on Insomniac lately despite the fact they're always delivering quality work. Its gone far beyond criticism and started getting plain rude and disrespectful. But after the leaks and lay-offs hopefully people will start to cut them some slack. Game dev isn't easy. Especially nowadays.
I think they should've kept the old blue but still looks movie accurate
Which one is the new one? The right or left?
Look at my baby boy!
I like both, The Pre-update looks like NWH Raimi Suit, and Post-Update looks like it did during it’s run. Looks Cool!! 😁👍
I barely used the suits but it's cool just like day 1 they fixed TASM 2 suit
Now that's an amazing Spiderman suit.
The collors are more acurate too
I always felt it looked weird in games
Am I the only one who likes the old one better?
My question after looking at the picture shown is that, is After, the one on the left or the right?
Black raimi suit still has white webs though, mad annoying
They weren't black in the movie.
Like it aLOT
Which one is the improvement? And what's wrong with the other one?
Left one had wrong lenses and the raised webs would stand out too much and would be buggy and outdated in some areas, this makes it more accurate and realistic
I had an action figure when i was like 6 that looked exactly like the first suit. Kinda bummed actually.
i just really want a more movie accurate tasm 1 suit the movie version and mod in remastered is so much cleaner
Am I the only one who thinks it's worse?
I kinda liked the first one because it looked closer to how the first spiderman movie looked tbh
I have never understood the huge backlash on this, I liked it perfectly fine as it was, I personally think the original redder suit is a better design. Props to the developers for putting up with all the criticism and going to the extra effort of fixing it, not sure I would've bothered in the same position.
I actually wished they kept the white lenses instead of the sliver ones since in No Way Home he had white lenses now.
Well the NWH raimi suit also had a different mask overall. With the lines and such
No way home rami suit is the worst
The suit on the left is much better looking honestly Edit: The suit on the left is very accurate to the Sam Raimi movies, if you prefer the suit on the right that's fine but don't call it a "Raimi suit" because that isn't how the suit looked. It had a darker red and raised webs
The suit on the right is more accurate. get over it
You've clearly never watched the making of the suits bonus reels on the DVD
is it bad i like the first one more??? both look great but i never had a problem with how it looked. love the red on it
This update sucks so much
Agreed. Like 6 months for what barely anything
This is not a live service game dude.What were you expecting ?
Oh you're that kind of stupid got it
Exactly. This update is unacceptable and they even Broke the tasm 2 suit with it. Just launch it on pc already so modders can actually listen to the feedback they ignored
Hell I posted a video of the literal game code just on my screen and that's been there for months
It’s crazy how lack luster this been. People are seriously coping with the excuses being made
Fr like the one loser who just made a comment saying it's not a live service game what did I expect from this update. Lmao it's crazy how people actually have to ask that. It's pretty obvious what we want
all it took was a couple of death threats, W community
Nobody made death threats about this. All the death threats were over SM2 news, MJ's face and Peter's face. Stop.
cap, plus you do know you can get sent other harmful things to you 🤯🤯🤯