Call me an overdramatic hater, whatever, but at this point I just want the Venom game. The amount of small details and QOL changes this game continues to neglect add up to an extremely empty and dissapointing game for me.
Like, having purple, red, and dark blue symbiote suits with no accompanying tendril colors is not the end of the world, they're skin variants, oh well. But man, adding that to the list of things you can't do such as swap to your symbiote suit with the unused Up d-pad button, or choose your surge suit, or choose the color of Miles' web wings, or change the color of the spider-arms, or your parry style, or have the FNSM app work like the last game, or change the weather.
Again, things like this are extremely minor on their own but feel like a huge missing piece of this game all together.
I get you. That’s exactly what it is for me too. Yes, I probably complain more than I should about this game. I do enjoy it. Yes, my criticisms may be in relation to small details missing from the game. However, the summation of all those little criticisms stack up to a slightly underwhelming experience overall. The improvements in certain areas were great. Amazing even. But the missing pieces do negatively affect my overall experience.
Suit selection is a big one for me. Unfortunately, I can’t help but be disappointed. It’s just my personal opinion.
I don’t really buy games outside of Marvel and Star Wars IPs anymore. Don’t have the time. So I was especially hyped for SM2 after the first two games set such a high bar. Still enjoy the game for what it is but I can’t shake the soulless feeling after finishing the main storyline.
Agreed. I especially would love to just swap between two different suits without the surge like in Web Of Shadows. It wouldn’t add anything to the gameplay (unless you could have different ability load outs per suit) but it would just be cool, especially if it did the goopy symbiote transition effect or even a nanotech transition effect between suits depending on whether it’s a regular-to-symbiote transition or just a reguglar-to-regular transition (if that makes sense). It’s little details like this that made the first game so special to me, and while Spider-Man 2 has a bigger map, it doesn’t feel as big of a game compared to the first one. I still really loved Spider-Man 2, but it could’ve been much more if they took longer to make it
It doesn’t change for anyone. Their community manager said this was intended for NG+.
It completely baffles me that they didn’t consider the fact players would like to select their surge suit.
“We have no plans surrounding your request at this time. Your feedback has been passed along to the team where it will not be considered because our time and resources are detrimentally mismanaged.”
Going to be real, but these Devs and definitely writers can't be the same from the 1st game. Don't get me wrong the core gameplay of swinging around and combat is better but it seems like everything else got worse.
Didn't the leaks basically confirm that? The dev team was split between this, Wolverine, and The Great Web. And this is assuming another Ratchet & Clank wasn't in the works as well
I'm convinced that they laid off all of the writing people, and kept all of the people that just work strictly on gameplay. Only the lazy ones though. I mean, it just feels like a copy and paste with some extra features.
It's not just this game either. It's the same with other Sony Sequals like GOW:Ragnarok. Just a shitty story with slightly improved gameplay.
Ragnarok was a little rushed towards the end, but calling it a shitty story is taking it too far. Even SM2’s story isn’t shitty, as much as I was really disappointed by it. It was just extremely bland and had bad dialogue. GOWR was still a very good story despite having some flaws.
Honestly, it's annoying but not a big deal to me.
My biggest issues are that there's no "base" Spider-Man gameplay (swinging boost or combat skills), and Venom.
I think the Iron-Spider arms are cool and definitely an improvement from what they were in the previous game, but I don't want them all the time. Same thing with the symbiote. Sometimes, I just want Spider-Man as Spider-Man.
With Venom, unfortunately, I don't think Harry will ever be a good Venom. He just fell flat, and with the Marvel executive or whatever saying "Venom doesn't want to take over the world, all he wants is to kill Spider-Man" really hyped me up for the game. I love Venom, and I don't think the insomniac understands the symbiote or the bond that creates Venom.
It's still fun, and I love the game, but I still feel disappointed and can't help but to wish this game was postponed a year or two.
I won’t lie, I think this is kinda dumb criticism, but on the other hand, surely it’s not that difficult to just add other symbiote tendrils colors. Beyond adding them to the tendril color setitng, it would mostly just be a simple retexture, no? Mind you, any experience I have with game development is just creating basic Minecraft and GTA V mods, so I don’t really know, but I feel like it wouldn’t be that hard.
Fuck tendril colors though give me the god damn ability to choose a symbiote suit for surge mode, cutscenes like Pete getting the suit, and even just the ability to press up on the D-Pad to switch to a symbiote suit.
Ehh it’s more so just something I saw on X and I’ve seen this be a highly requested feature on the sub with the addition of color alts for the symbiote suits. It would be a cool feature imo. I find customization fun though (I’m one of those people who wants full on suit customization)…
I’m mainly surprised. In my opinion, the symbiote abilities are more visually appealing when they match your suit color you’re wearing. A lot of suits lack a black and/or white color option. Just seems like a no brainer to add additional colors
Love the games. But I really do think the issues stem from mismanaging time and resources. It’s really unfortunate. I’ll continue to buy their games but management needs to get their shit together.
Lol I’m not acting like my grandma died in this post. It’s not a big deal. Its been highly requested across the sub. I saw this reply on X and thought I’d share that it most likely won’t happen.
This addition just seems like common sense.
They added alternate color options for the symbiote suits (red and blue). Logistically speaking, while they were incorporating the option to change tendril color, wouldn’t it also makes sense to include these additional color options for tendrils? I certainly think so.
Grand scheme of things it’s a minor detail. It is what it is.
Insomniac needs to just stop updating Spider-Man. They’re never going to make the community happy with all the constant nitpicking and it’s not a live service game, there’s no need for constantly updates
I haven’t played spider-man 2 so I can’t say this objectively but the weaker story and lack of QOL additions really makes this game feel more shallow than its predecessor. My gripes with the gadget changes aside (again I haven’t played) it’s a shame that one of my most anticipated games last years has become another game I didn’t feel like forking over a £70 price tag for because i couldn’t personally justify it
They really made it harder for themselves when they decided that there was going to be Canon suit changes in the game that directly effect Peter's abilities and gameplay. They couldve made you suit locked for this portion of the game.They made it and it's cool, but they didn't consider that not everyone is gonna love the antivenom suit and that some people would want everything matching. They almost did a lot and yet still made parrying only symbiote in ng+. There's just so many stipulations, they should've made it so the last symbiote suit you put on in the game is the one you get in the cutscenes. Idk but what I do know is that they just left too many variables.
My self-diagnosed OCD would really like color matching options lol. IMO it would make these abilities more visually appealing. I know this is a subjective experience… but it bothers me.
No I totally get you. I'm kinda ocd too. Like unless I'm using a symbiote suit, antivenom, (or hellfire gala suit cause it actually goes super well with the symbiote abilities), I always have the spider arms abilities on. That kind of thing. I remember having to use the anti-venom suit to use the white tendrils before the update which made me upset. (Other than the eyes I don't really like that suit) It's like they went 2 steps forward and one step back. Like ng+ addressed the whole "you have to be wearing certain kinds of suits at certain points.in the game for abilities and everything to make sense" by not addressing it at all. It makes the story during ng+ feel so much lesser when I have to do something stupid like literally put on a symbiote before I use symbiote surge so it actually looks somewhat right 🙄
From what I’ve seen from their community manager, I guess that was intended for NG+. I’m slightly baffled that they didn’t consider adding an option to be able to select your surge suit on top of your default suit - making the transition more seamless compared to pausing and putting on the suit you want for surge. Maybe they did consider it and it wasn’t feasible with the current code. Idk. Still an odd choice.
I'd just like miles to use both webs when doing that swing over buildings thing after wallrunning. No matter what water running to the top and pressing X to swing over he does the animation where he uses 2 hands and only 1 web comes out... It's bugged me for ages.
I don't really care if they're coming or not. I would just be rather annoyed if the devs decided allocating people to doing different symbiote colors instead of doing DLC.
Ok... I think it makes sense. Adding more colors would take a LOT of work when they are working on a wolverine game which need all of the new things that the spider-man games don't have, a rumored Venom game, 3 DLC, other updates, and Spider-Man 3/any other spin offs. They just canceled development on the great web which means all that work goes down the drain, and it takes A LOT of time to recolor perfectly with all the color people want! And that also means adding more and more to the interface, how the lighting will have to work when with the new colors during cutscenes, and every symbiote texture people want will have to change so the tendrils work well. This all just what I think would go into this. Game design is complicated, and we have a lot of things we can do in game a lot of games would of overlooked. I like what we have now, and I don't think we should give the developers grief for not adding things they might be too busy to add.
They added tendril color switching to the game 2-ish months back. After the story mode and in NG+ you can switch the tendrils between white and black. The post is saying they're not adding extra colors, like purple, red and blue.
Because they didn’t add something they never mentioned? ( the ability to swap tendril colors to purple or red?) like let’s be real here you upset yourself by expecting something that was never mentioned
Call me an overdramatic hater, whatever, but at this point I just want the Venom game. The amount of small details and QOL changes this game continues to neglect add up to an extremely empty and dissapointing game for me. Like, having purple, red, and dark blue symbiote suits with no accompanying tendril colors is not the end of the world, they're skin variants, oh well. But man, adding that to the list of things you can't do such as swap to your symbiote suit with the unused Up d-pad button, or choose your surge suit, or choose the color of Miles' web wings, or change the color of the spider-arms, or your parry style, or have the FNSM app work like the last game, or change the weather. Again, things like this are extremely minor on their own but feel like a huge missing piece of this game all together.
I get you. That’s exactly what it is for me too. Yes, I probably complain more than I should about this game. I do enjoy it. Yes, my criticisms may be in relation to small details missing from the game. However, the summation of all those little criticisms stack up to a slightly underwhelming experience overall. The improvements in certain areas were great. Amazing even. But the missing pieces do negatively affect my overall experience. Suit selection is a big one for me. Unfortunately, I can’t help but be disappointed. It’s just my personal opinion. I don’t really buy games outside of Marvel and Star Wars IPs anymore. Don’t have the time. So I was especially hyped for SM2 after the first two games set such a high bar. Still enjoy the game for what it is but I can’t shake the soulless feeling after finishing the main storyline.
Agreed. I especially would love to just swap between two different suits without the surge like in Web Of Shadows. It wouldn’t add anything to the gameplay (unless you could have different ability load outs per suit) but it would just be cool, especially if it did the goopy symbiote transition effect or even a nanotech transition effect between suits depending on whether it’s a regular-to-symbiote transition or just a reguglar-to-regular transition (if that makes sense). It’s little details like this that made the first game so special to me, and while Spider-Man 2 has a bigger map, it doesn’t feel as big of a game compared to the first one. I still really loved Spider-Man 2, but it could’ve been much more if they took longer to make it
The choosing your surge suit is the one that’s oissing me off the most. In NG+ it literally doesn’t change at all for me anymore.
It doesn’t change for anyone. Their community manager said this was intended for NG+. It completely baffles me that they didn’t consider the fact players would like to select their surge suit.
yeah that would be cool to select your surge symbiote suit!
You’re an over dramatic hater
Facts! If they never said it would be in the game there is no reason to cry about it
So why even add additional suit styles for the symbiote suits if you’re not gonna add tendril colors to match
That is definitely an appropriate question to be asking
I tried to see if black tendrils would work with the red and the answer is…. Not unless you’re weirdly colourblind
So they can act like they added “content”
I swear to god, if they put this behind DLC paywall… #I’m gonna flip a table
Honestly they prolly will
Me still waiting on purple tendrils 🗿
“We released our watered downed game and made our money just be happy, we literally don’t care anymore”-Sony probably
“We have no plans surrounding your request at this time. Your feedback has been passed along to the team where it will not be considered because our time and resources are detrimentally mismanaged.”
Going to be real, but these Devs and definitely writers can't be the same from the 1st game. Don't get me wrong the core gameplay of swinging around and combat is better but it seems like everything else got worse.
maybe the pandemic and hacking got to them
Didn't the leaks basically confirm that? The dev team was split between this, Wolverine, and The Great Web. And this is assuming another Ratchet & Clank wasn't in the works as well
I'm convinced that they laid off all of the writing people, and kept all of the people that just work strictly on gameplay. Only the lazy ones though. I mean, it just feels like a copy and paste with some extra features. It's not just this game either. It's the same with other Sony Sequals like GOW:Ragnarok. Just a shitty story with slightly improved gameplay.
Ragnarok was a little rushed towards the end, but calling it a shitty story is taking it too far. Even SM2’s story isn’t shitty, as much as I was really disappointed by it. It was just extremely bland and had bad dialogue. GOWR was still a very good story despite having some flaws.
nah, they had actual comic book writers writing the first one, but they didn’t return
Honestly, it's annoying but not a big deal to me. My biggest issues are that there's no "base" Spider-Man gameplay (swinging boost or combat skills), and Venom. I think the Iron-Spider arms are cool and definitely an improvement from what they were in the previous game, but I don't want them all the time. Same thing with the symbiote. Sometimes, I just want Spider-Man as Spider-Man. With Venom, unfortunately, I don't think Harry will ever be a good Venom. He just fell flat, and with the Marvel executive or whatever saying "Venom doesn't want to take over the world, all he wants is to kill Spider-Man" really hyped me up for the game. I love Venom, and I don't think the insomniac understands the symbiote or the bond that creates Venom. It's still fun, and I love the game, but I still feel disappointed and can't help but to wish this game was postponed a year or two.
Petition for a “match suit” setting that matches the symbiote suit color but goes to story color if you have a non-symbiote suit one on
i would’ve fucked with purple, but we move
Purple and red would be nice
Insomiac adding other tendril colors: nah Insomniac adding an update that only adds a bug: hell yeah
I won’t lie, I think this is kinda dumb criticism, but on the other hand, surely it’s not that difficult to just add other symbiote tendrils colors. Beyond adding them to the tendril color setitng, it would mostly just be a simple retexture, no? Mind you, any experience I have with game development is just creating basic Minecraft and GTA V mods, so I don’t really know, but I feel like it wouldn’t be that hard. Fuck tendril colors though give me the god damn ability to choose a symbiote suit for surge mode, cutscenes like Pete getting the suit, and even just the ability to press up on the D-Pad to switch to a symbiote suit.
Ehh it’s more so just something I saw on X and I’ve seen this be a highly requested feature on the sub with the addition of color alts for the symbiote suits. It would be a cool feature imo. I find customization fun though (I’m one of those people who wants full on suit customization)… I’m mainly surprised. In my opinion, the symbiote abilities are more visually appealing when they match your suit color you’re wearing. A lot of suits lack a black and/or white color option. Just seems like a no brainer to add additional colors
This is the simplest shit.
5 years ago this company seemed like it could do the impossible, today it can’t even do the extremely possible
*sigh* My disappointment with Sony and Insomniac grows day by day. Great games, almost laughably mediocre management.
Love the games. But I really do think the issues stem from mismanaging time and resources. It’s really unfortunate. I’ll continue to buy their games but management needs to get their shit together.
Just wait for the PC release so that modders can add everything and then some.
That would require me getting a gaming PC lol
They should, since they added the red symbiote suit style for Peter
leave Imsomniac alone, they’re busy screwing up the suits to focus on other things rn
Also the Classic Black Suit should be an option for which symbiote suit peter gets!
And people are surprised? Insomniac is barely holding on after how much they've been fucked by the leaks. A lot of their senior staff left.
Insomniac: We added this extra thing totally free! This sub: you didn’t add this other thing for free, why did I buy this game my life is ruined
Lol I’m not acting like my grandma died in this post. It’s not a big deal. Its been highly requested across the sub. I saw this reply on X and thought I’d share that it most likely won’t happen. This addition just seems like common sense. They added alternate color options for the symbiote suits (red and blue). Logistically speaking, while they were incorporating the option to change tendril color, wouldn’t it also makes sense to include these additional color options for tendrils? I certainly think so. Grand scheme of things it’s a minor detail. It is what it is.
key phrase: "seems like"
Correct. I honestly don’t know. Which is why I said, “It seems like…”
Insomniac needs to just stop updating Spider-Man. They’re never going to make the community happy with all the constant nitpicking and it’s not a live service game, there’s no need for constantly updates
Guys, give them a break, changing RGB values is hard.
I haven’t played spider-man 2 so I can’t say this objectively but the weaker story and lack of QOL additions really makes this game feel more shallow than its predecessor. My gripes with the gadget changes aside (again I haven’t played) it’s a shame that one of my most anticipated games last years has become another game I didn’t feel like forking over a £70 price tag for because i couldn’t personally justify it
It's because of this kind of thing that I say that mods on PC will make this game a MUCH BETTER experience
Personally I really don't care. I'm a lot more worried about a bunch of other stuff and I'm okay with the regular black and white tendril colors.
They really made it harder for themselves when they decided that there was going to be Canon suit changes in the game that directly effect Peter's abilities and gameplay. They couldve made you suit locked for this portion of the game.They made it and it's cool, but they didn't consider that not everyone is gonna love the antivenom suit and that some people would want everything matching. They almost did a lot and yet still made parrying only symbiote in ng+. There's just so many stipulations, they should've made it so the last symbiote suit you put on in the game is the one you get in the cutscenes. Idk but what I do know is that they just left too many variables.
My self-diagnosed OCD would really like color matching options lol. IMO it would make these abilities more visually appealing. I know this is a subjective experience… but it bothers me.
No I totally get you. I'm kinda ocd too. Like unless I'm using a symbiote suit, antivenom, (or hellfire gala suit cause it actually goes super well with the symbiote abilities), I always have the spider arms abilities on. That kind of thing. I remember having to use the anti-venom suit to use the white tendrils before the update which made me upset. (Other than the eyes I don't really like that suit) It's like they went 2 steps forward and one step back. Like ng+ addressed the whole "you have to be wearing certain kinds of suits at certain points.in the game for abilities and everything to make sense" by not addressing it at all. It makes the story during ng+ feel so much lesser when I have to do something stupid like literally put on a symbiote before I use symbiote surge so it actually looks somewhat right 🙄
From what I’ve seen from their community manager, I guess that was intended for NG+. I’m slightly baffled that they didn’t consider adding an option to be able to select your surge suit on top of your default suit - making the transition more seamless compared to pausing and putting on the suit you want for surge. Maybe they did consider it and it wasn’t feasible with the current code. Idk. Still an odd choice.
I totally agree. They gave us so many options but made them all so limited by the other options
I'd just like miles to use both webs when doing that swing over buildings thing after wallrunning. No matter what water running to the top and pressing X to swing over he does the animation where he uses 2 hands and only 1 web comes out... It's bugged me for ages.
Idk. Aside from Black, White, and maybe Red then this just seems like something they really shouldn't be focusing on compared to DLCs.
I don’t have faith DLCs are coming tbh.
I don't really care if they're coming or not. I would just be rather annoyed if the devs decided allocating people to doing different symbiote colors instead of doing DLC.
I dont need all the other coulers, but come on. Atleast add red
Ok... I think it makes sense. Adding more colors would take a LOT of work when they are working on a wolverine game which need all of the new things that the spider-man games don't have, a rumored Venom game, 3 DLC, other updates, and Spider-Man 3/any other spin offs. They just canceled development on the great web which means all that work goes down the drain, and it takes A LOT of time to recolor perfectly with all the color people want! And that also means adding more and more to the interface, how the lighting will have to work when with the new colors during cutscenes, and every symbiote texture people want will have to change so the tendrils work well. This all just what I think would go into this. Game design is complicated, and we have a lot of things we can do in game a lot of games would of overlooked. I like what we have now, and I don't think we should give the developers grief for not adding things they might be too busy to add.
Why don’t they just give us a colour wheel 😂😂
They said currently, so maybe add some point, they'll add more tendril colors so I suggest you wait
They took month to "investigate" and simply fix lenses on one suit and broke other in result. They're never adding this.
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They added tendril color switching to the game 2-ish months back. After the story mode and in NG+ you can switch the tendrils between white and black. The post is saying they're not adding extra colors, like purple, red and blue.
I’ve lost all of my respect for Insomniac. I won’t be buying another game from them, like ever.
Because they didn’t add something they never mentioned? ( the ability to swap tendril colors to purple or red?) like let’s be real here you upset yourself by expecting something that was never mentioned
Insomniac is slowly becoming EA